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(Flavorwire)   Do you like Cormac McCarthys books said the submitter. I don't know some of them are ok said the Farker. Well heres a list of the five best said the submitter   (flavorwire.com) divider line 69
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2014-07-19 11:04:52 AM  
Blood Meridian is the best book I've ever read, and the Judge is the greatest villain of all time.  Yes, I like Cormac McCarthy.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."
 
2014-07-19 11:18:11 AM  
I agree with this list.
 
2014-07-19 01:44:07 PM  

Nabb1: I agree with this list.


I do as well, and I would also like to give subby props for his headline.
 
2014-07-19 02:01:33 PM  
I feel Wildcat should have been included, but I can see why they left it out, being written in a kind of obsolete vernacular and all.
 
2014-07-19 02:44:17 PM  
The Road is an awful book.
 
2014-07-19 02:49:35 PM  
I forced myself to read all the way to the end of Suttree. That was a painful painful read.
 
2014-07-19 02:54:03 PM  
In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.
 
2014-07-19 03:11:12 PM  
Thanks moderator for sticking quotations and punctuation in the headline, but the point was to make an affectionate little jibe at how Mccarthy does not use quotation marks and an absolute minimum of punctuation in his work.
 
2014-07-19 03:13:33 PM  
McCarthy comes off too nihilistic for me. I mean it's one thing to act like someone peed in your cheerios, it's another to think that you're forced to eat that bowl of cheerios and that no matter how hard you try to tell yourself that the bowl taste good it just doesn't.

Oh and after you the finish the bowl you find out that the Cheerios was laced with toxin, causing you to linger on for 3 days in agonizing pain until you die.
 
2014-07-19 03:16:44 PM  
He's pretty awesome. Blood Meridian is a world where the violence of every cowboy movie happens relentlessly and nothing is remotely biguous.

The wife's suicide in The Road is easily on par with Ophelia's.

Etc. I could jerk that dude dry for hours. Cormac is so awesome.
 
2014-07-19 03:23:49 PM  

BalugaJoe: The Road is an awful book.


Came to say this,.

Everytime they were almost dead, food/shelter/clean water appeared.

Meh
 
2014-07-19 03:36:28 PM  

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.


Woah. Exact same thing happened to me, except in 2008. I couldn't put it down though, I *had* to finish it.

/csb
 
2014-07-19 03:52:10 PM  
I would stick Suttree in at #2 and bump the others down a spot, but otherwise, yeah, fine list.

Blood Meridian, more than any other book I've ever read, took a psychic and physical toll on me throughout and after the reading. Just utterly draining, yet a completely compelling and powerful read. On my shortest short list of favorite novels.
 
2014-07-19 03:56:04 PM  
Wow, really? Adding punctuation marks to the headline when the joke was clearly to not include them as a commentary on McCarthy's style? That's some spectacular fail, right there.
 
2014-07-19 03:58:42 PM  
I'll give it another go, but I found Blood Meridian to be very difficult to read.  I know it's his style of writing, but I found it hard to know who was talking to who.  It's easy in The Road when there's only a few characters.  The first violent scene when they raided the Natives, I haven't been taken back like that since American Psycho.
 
2014-07-19 04:02:17 PM  

alowishus: Blood Meridian is the best book I've ever read, and the Judge is the greatest villain of all time.  Yes, I like Cormac McCarthy.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."

 
2014-07-19 04:09:02 PM  

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.


I've not (nor will I ever) read the book but I have seen the movie and cannot to this day think about it. Doing so depresses and angers me. If you were as low as you say and read The Road I'm surprised you didn't swallow a shotgun shell.

Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.
 
2014-07-19 04:14:13 PM  
subby used quote marks so has never read a Cormac book apparently
 
2014-07-19 04:16:17 PM  

chucknasty: subby used quote marks so has never read a Cormac book apparently


chucknasty has never read the thread apparently.
 
2014-07-19 04:22:02 PM  
Pocket Ninja Wow, really? Adding punctuation marks to the headline when the joke was clearly to not include them as a commentary on McCarthy's style? That's some spectacular fail, right there.
dammitsomuch beat me to it
 
2014-07-19 04:22:17 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: He's pretty awesome. Blood Meridian is a world where the violence of every cowboy movie happens relentlessly and nothing is remotely biguous.


I actually ended up reading that on a recommendation from a co-worker. We were discussing cowboy movies and "Unforgiven" came up. He said "Read Blood Meridian. It makes Unforgiven look like a trip to Disneyland"
 
2014-07-19 04:43:59 PM  

chucknasty: Pocket Ninja Wow, really? Adding punctuation marks to the headline when the joke was clearly to not include them as a commentary on McCarthy's style? That's some spectacular fail, right there.
dammitsomuch beat me to it


the headline was originally written in Cormac McCarthy's style. that's why PN's second comment in the thread about giving props to subby made sense.

then for whatever reason, a moderator or admin came in and revised the headline, adding punctuation marks and that's what jake-lex's comment refers to.

and then PN came back in the thread, saw that someone altered the headline, and made his "Wow. really?" comment.

then the admins changed it back to its original, intended style.

but if you're just reading the thread, and were unaware of the admins folly, you would be totally confused and wouldn't know which comments were referring to which headline.
 
2014-07-19 04:59:09 PM  

BalugaJoe: The Road is an awful book.


It's the only book that has ever scared me. At all.  McCarthy is a God.
 
2014-07-19 04:59:32 PM  

boogerwolf: Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.

I've not (nor will I ever) read the book but I have seen the movie and cannot to this day think about it. Doing so depresses and angers me. If you were as low as you say and read The Road I'm surprised you didn't swallow a shotgun shell.

Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


Better that than Catcher in the Rye turning him into a dickhead until the end if the decade.
 
2014-07-19 05:05:33 PM  

boogerwolf: Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.

I've not (nor will I ever) read the book but I have seen the movie and cannot to this day think about it. Doing so depresses and angers me. If you were as low as you say and read The Road I'm surprised you didn't swallow a shotgun shell.

Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


Telling him he won't be reading it is a surefire way to get him to read it, especially since it's short enough that he'd never have to ever bring it into the house. Nice reverse psychology there, parent.
 
2014-07-19 05:18:53 PM  

alowishus: Blood Meridian is the best book I've ever read, and the Judge is the greatest villain of all time.  Yes, I like Cormac McCarthy.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."


Not my favorite book, but I can see why it's considered one of America's best books. The scene where they make gunpowder on the volcano from sulphur and urine has to be one of my favorite scenes in any book. The ending is also so, so bleak and ambiguous I consider it nearly perfect.

LeroyBourne: I'll give it another go, but I found Blood Meridian to be very difficult to read.  I know it's his style of writing, but I found it hard to know who was talking to who.  It's easy in The Road when there's only a few characters.  The first violent scene when they raided the Natives, I haven't been taken back like that since American Psycho.

Very true, The violence and racism I could digest, though it was tough. I also found the sentences that seemed to have no end, one after the other, made it a very hard read. In the end, I found it to be as exhausting as reading Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow. Worth it, but exhausting.
 
2014-07-19 05:24:12 PM  
McCarthy would be the greatest writer ever if he wasn't so influenced by William Faulkner.
 
2014-07-19 05:36:50 PM  
Wasn't a fan of The Road, despite the hype.  The last time it came up on Fark, someone mentioned that The Road received a bunch of belated Blood Meridian praise.  Personally, Cormac doesn't do it for me, just like Hemingway doesn't do it for some people.

/I thoroughly enjoy Hemingway
 
2014-07-19 05:46:10 PM  
Excluding unrealistic, 'fantasy' novels like 'Game of Thrones', Blood Meridian is the MOST VIOLENT book I've ever read.  The Road was the most bleak.  I'm building myself up to his other works.

Jeremy Clarkson had a pretty review of The Road while reviewing the BMW X1.
 
2014-07-19 06:15:58 PM  
GoodHomer:

LeroyBourne: I'll give it another go, but I found Blood Meridian to be very difficult to read.  I know it's his style of writing, but I found it hard to know who was talking to who.  It's easy in The Road when there's only a few characters.  The first violent scene when they raided the Natives, I haven't been taken back like that since American Psycho.

Very true, The violence and racism I could digest, though it was tough. I also found the sentences that seemed to have no end, one after the other, made it a very hard read. In the end, I found it to be as exhausting as reading Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow. Worth it, but exhausting.


I can handle exhausting books to an extent, like I said, I'll give it another go.  I remember being very young and reading Clockwork Orange with all that Russian jargon, you got used to it and by the end you sounded just like one of his droogs.  I'll check out what I highlighted.  Thanks.
 
2014-07-19 06:17:54 PM  

boogerwolf: Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


His choice, or your dictate?

"The Road" is a genuinely great book.  Bleak, yes.  Thought-provoking - very.  A genuine work of art - totally.  It's great literature, and here's hoping you wouldn't tell your HS-age son that he can't read a work of great literature, and if you do, I hope he reads it anyway.
 
2014-07-19 06:21:22 PM  

boogerwolf: Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


Books that I read in high school more depressing than The Road:

The Grapes of Wrath
On the Beach
Of Mice and Men
1984


That's off the top of my head. I'm sure there were more. Granted, I read nonstop at that age. I had a book with me everywhere I went.
 
2014-07-19 06:29:56 PM  
I read The Road and I had to put it down at times. I kept waiting for some small glimmer of hope, or to have something decent happen. It was very well written but damn depressing. It is however a book I would recommend to people I know. It's certainly not for everyone.
 
2014-07-19 06:35:48 PM  
boogerwolf:
I've not (nor will I ever) read the book but I have seen the movie and cannot to this day think about it. Doing so depresses and angers me. If you were as low as you say and read The Road I'm surprised you didn't swallow a shotgun shell.

Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


Forbidding a student from reading any novel is oppressively close minded, let alone one you've only seen the film adaption of and not read yourself. Do you also forbid them from listening to that new fangled Rock n Roll music and dancing?
 
2014-07-19 06:46:38 PM  
Child of God is a powerful, disturbing read. Written in single syllables.
Personally, I love his style. Stripped dow to basic communication. More so than newspaperspeak.
Hemingway would have written like this if he'd been sober.
 
2014-07-19 06:51:37 PM  
This.
My mother hates me to this day for recommending Camus's The Stranger.
Some people just need their literature spoonfed to them
 
2014-07-19 07:17:50 PM  
Blood Meridian = solid.
I taught a community college course that included The Road (it was a literature to film course). Most of the students enjoyed the movie, but had a hard time following McCarthy's writing style.

If you don't need no stinkin' quotation marks, I'd highly recommend William Gaddis.
 
2014-07-19 07:32:00 PM  

endtimethirtyfour: Blood Meridian = solid.
I taught a community college course that included The Road (it was a literature to film course). Most of the students enjoyed the movie, but had a hard time following McCarthy's writing style.

If you don't need no stinkin' quotation marks, I'd highly recommend William Gaddis.


I couldn't make it through the movie. And that's WITH copious amounts of alcohol and weed.
 
2014-07-19 07:40:41 PM  

LeroyBourne: GoodHomer:

LeroyBourne: I'll give it another go, but I found Blood Meridian to be very difficult to read.  I know it's his style of writing, but I found it hard to know who was talking to who.  It's easy in The Road when there's only a few characters.  The first violent scene when they raided the Natives, I haven't been taken back like that since American Psycho.

Very true, The violence and racism I could digest, though it was tough. I also found the sentences that seemed to have no end, one after the other, made it a very hard read. In the end, I found it to be as exhausting as reading Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow. Worth it, but exhausting.

I can handle exhausting books to an extent, like I said, I'll give it another go.  I remember being very young and reading Clockwork Orange with all that Russian jargon, you got used to it and by the end you sounded just like one of his droogs.  I'll check out what I highlighted.  Thanks.


Just be careful with Gravity's Rainbow. It's a really meandering story that takes some really weird, but fantastic tangents. But some of the scenes nearly had me throwing the book across the room with force (parts of it really tested my limits, including a scene where the protagonist has sex with an under-aged girl). That being said, if you read it, you'll never look at light bulbs the same way again.
 
2014-07-19 08:06:08 PM  
Blood Meridian is a brutal book.  I'm reading it now. I'm at that part where something brutal and horrible has happened.
 
2014-07-19 08:11:14 PM  

boogerwolf: Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: In 2007, I was having a very bad time. Lowest point in my life. I had been going regularly to the local library to pick up books to fill the time, and ease my mind for a short while. On one trip, I saw a book by Cormac McCarthy on the new arrival shelf. Glad there was a copy, i walked over to check it out hoping for catharsis and a brief respite from my own dark time. What I got was The Road. Page one was grey and bleak. Page two was greyer and bleaker. Every page after became greyer and bleaker than the one before, and so did I. Perhaps only McCarthy has the power to make the worst spot in your life worse with just words you yourself volunteered to read.

I've not (nor will I ever) read the book but I have seen the movie and cannot to this day think about it. Doing so depresses and angers me. If you were as low as you say and read The Road I'm surprised you didn't swallow a shotgun shell.

Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.


Weird- my kid is about to turn thirteen/ going into 8th grade. He read the road, we had great talks about family- a father and a son and obligations to each other. It is a very hopeful book.

But that's like just my opinion man
 
2014-07-19 08:12:32 PM  

AeAe: Blood Meridian is a brutal book.  I'm reading it now. I'm at that part where something brutal and horrible has happened.


Dude!  Spoiler alert!  lol
 
2014-07-19 08:14:32 PM  
I agree with the list except I would put Suttree at four and all the pretty horses would be the honorable mention .

McCarthy is like Irvin welsh to me- I love the style & language but I have to put them down every so often or I begin to think in their writing style.
 
2014-07-19 08:17:39 PM  
Quote from him:

Regarding his own literary constraints when writing novels, McCarthy said he's "not a fan of some of the Latin American writers, magical realism. You know, it's hard enough to get people to believe what you're telling them without making it impossible. It has to be vaguely plausible."

I agree with him. I don't like that stuff either. It's like every time the plot gets slow, the author can just stick some magic in to make it more interesting.
 
2014-07-19 08:29:05 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: He's pretty awesome. Blood Meridian is a world where the violence of every cowboy movie happens relentlessly and nothing is remotely biguous.

The wife's suicide in The Road is easily on par with Ophelia's.

Etc. I could jerk that dude dry for hours. Cormac is so awesome.


Yeah, it's so incredibly hard to write bleak, depressing fiction, because life isn't shiatty enough already.

/rolls eyes
 
2014-07-19 08:43:56 PM  
GoodHomer:

Just be careful with Gravity's Rainbow. It's a really meandering story that takes some really weird, but fantastic tangents. But some of the scenes nearly had me throwing the book across the room with force (parts of it really tested my limits, including a scene where the protagonist has sex with an under-aged girl). That being said, if you read it, you'll never look at light bulbs the same way again.

Oh man. we tried this for a book club and I was the only one who broke 250 or so pages before giving up. A friend of a friend who wrote his PhD on the book told me "you really begin to get things after three or four readings."
 
2014-07-19 09:13:51 PM  

endtimethirtyfour: GoodHomer:

Just be careful with Gravity's Rainbow. It's a really meandering story that takes some really weird, but fantastic tangents. But some of the scenes nearly had me throwing the book across the room with force (parts of it really tested my limits, including a scene where the protagonist has sex with an under-aged girl). That being said, if you read it, you'll never look at light bulbs the same way again.

Oh man. we tried this for a book club and I was the only one who broke 250 or so pages before giving up. A friend of a friend who wrote his PhD on the book told me "you really begin to get things after three or four readings."


I can understand why it'd take a PhD to dissect that monstrosity of a book. It's incredibly convoluted and Pynchon has given absolutely no guidance on what it's supposed to be about or what he was thinking when writing it.

And I'm not sure if I'll read it again, let alone three or four times. Some of the scenes in it were so good that I slogged through the tougher stuff in the hope I'd come across more of that good stuff. Like I hinted about, there's a sprawling scene written from the perspective of a smuggled light bulb that is an absolute masterpiece. It's some of the funniest stuff I've ever read and it seems like it has nothing to do with the plot, but it's there anyways. But I don't know if I have the patience to read through the thing again.
 
2014-07-19 10:01:58 PM  
Okay?

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

/Hated The Road.
//Blood Meridian was fantastic.
///Suttree was...good?  Kind of a tossup on that one.
 
2014-07-19 10:07:05 PM  
The last page of the first section of McCarthy's "The Crossing" is some of the most beautiful writing I've ever read, though that one sagged a bit for me afterwards (my not speaking Spanish didn't help).
 
2014-07-19 10:22:30 PM  

karmachameleon: boogerwolf: Fun Fact: The Road is on my son's HS reading list. He will not be reading that book.

His choice, or your dictate?

"The Road" is a genuinely great book.  Bleak, yes.  Thought-provoking - very.  A genuine work of art - totally.  It's great literature, and here's hoping you wouldn't tell your HS-age son that he can't read a work of great literature, and if you do, I hope he reads it anyway.


Fair enough. I'll knock off my Nazi shait and let him read it if he wants.
Just seems so damn bleak.
 
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