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2014-07-19 04:11:17 PM  

ManateeGag: yeah.  they never had a Republican governor before.  just like that super liberal NJ.  No Republican governors here either.


People who didn't live through it, don't realize that four of the last five governors of Massachusetts have been Republicans.  And the current Democrat seems to be in the pocket of Sheldon Adelson's gambling cohorts (along with Coakley).
 
2014-07-19 04:33:47 PM  

UNC_Samurai: You mean they actually ban annoying threadshiatters? I have a hard time believing it.


Christ, if this were the case there would be far fewer people posting.

The GOP sucks any more.  Just seriously farking sucks.  And this is from a former Conservative member of the party.

My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.

Fark politicians.
 
2014-07-19 04:41:25 PM  
Speaking as a South Boston resident I can say that there is a huuuuge group of conservatives in the electorate here, it's pretty much kosher to talk about POTUS as the "N*gger in chief" at several of the local watering holes. This should come as a surprise to absolutely no-one who knows MA politics. It is, at once, the most liberal and some of the most diehard racists in the country, living cheek-by-jowl.
 
2014-07-19 04:45:56 PM  
Jesus christ. Yanno if Ted Kennedy was still alive, this woman would be at the bottom of the ocean.
 
2014-07-19 04:46:32 PM  

machoprogrammer: Summercat: Mrbogey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.

A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?  A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.

Enough about why to vote against the Republicans, why vote for them?

Think how stupid your average person is. Then remember half the population is stupider than that


That's the median
 
2014-07-19 04:46:50 PM  

AltheaToldMe: My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.


Why on earth would you do that? In most states, that keeps you from voting in any of the primaries, which is where all the juicy good stuff happens.
 
2014-07-19 04:48:57 PM  

Mrbogey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.

A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?  A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.


Yeah it was the democrats that created the department of homeland security and authorized the nsa to listen to your phone calls. I remember it starting right after Obama's inauguration in January 2001.
 
2014-07-19 04:55:06 PM  

Zagloba: Why on earth would you do that? In most states, that keeps you from voting in any of the primaries, which is where all the juicy good stuff happens.


It's like that in PA and 18 other states.  I've signed the petitions and written my letters.  I did it out of pure disgust.  I've decided that my vote doesn't really count for much any more.  I still vote in the majors, but it frustrates me to do that too.
 
2014-07-19 04:58:29 PM  
First of all, it's one poll and it's from the Boston Globe.  Secondly:

The poll showed Attorney General Martha Coakley holding the support of 39 percent of likely voters, while Republican Charlie Baker had the backing of 36 percent, a 3 percentage point gap that is within the poll's 4 point margin of error.

Don't trip on your ball-in-a-cup on your way out, subby.
 
2014-07-19 05:04:54 PM  

AltheaToldMe: UNC_Samurai: You mean they actually ban annoying threadshiatters? I have a hard time believing it.

Christ, if this were the case there would be far fewer people posting.

The GOP sucks any more.  Just seriously farking sucks.  And this is from a former Conservative member of the party.

My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.

Fark politicians.


I've always been undeclared. I'll never vote for or contribute to a Republican again. I'll actively contribute and vote against any Republican or Teabagger.
 
2014-07-19 05:08:16 PM  

lilbjorn: ManateeGag: yeah.  they never had a Republican governor before.  just like that super liberal NJ.  No Republican governors here either.

People who didn't live through it, don't realize that four of the last five governors of Massachusetts have been Republicans.  And the current Democrat seems to be in the pocket of Sheldon Adelson's gambling cohorts (along with Coakley).




Lol. Yeah. We're in bed with Sheldon Adelson. Because the diff'rence Between a gentlemen and a bum, With a capital "B,"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool!

Calm down. A casino is a great thing for Massachusetts.
 
2014-07-19 05:09:39 PM  

Zagloba: AltheaToldMe: My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.

Why on earth would you do that? In most states, that keeps you from voting in any of the primaries, which is where all the juicy good stuff happens.




Not in MA. We have open primaries.
 
2014-07-19 05:12:29 PM  

nyseattitude: I've always been undeclared. I'll never vote for or contribute to a Republican again. I'll actively contribute and vote against any Republican or Teabagger.


I won't take it this far, but whomever the politician is better have a good goddamned reason to make me pull that lever for them.  Most will have excellent talking points, but absolutely fail to deliver on anything they promised anyway.  Every last one of them.

Pandering farks!
 
2014-07-19 05:17:07 PM  

AltheaToldMe: nyseattitude: I've always been undeclared. I'll never vote for or contribute to a Republican again. I'll actively contribute and vote against any Republican or Teabagger.

I won't take it this far, but whomever the politician is better have a good goddamned reason to make me pull that lever for them.  Most will have excellent talking points, but absolutely fail to deliver on anything they promised anyway.  Every last one of them.

Pandering farks!


So, vote Republican? Good to know.
 
2014-07-19 05:22:29 PM  

AltheaToldMe: Zagloba: Why on earth would you do that? In most states, that keeps you from voting in any of the primaries, which is where all the juicy good stuff happens.

It's like that in PA and 18 other states.  I've signed the petitions and written my letters.  I did it out of pure disgust.  I've decided that my vote doesn't really count for much any more.  I still vote in the majors, but it frustrates me to do that too.


So, why do you post on a random web site like Fark? Call it a day. Ask for your regular paycheck from the GOP. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
 
2014-07-19 05:27:42 PM  

Delay: So, vote Republican? Good to know.


I hope you didn't injure yourself jumping to that conclusion.

Delay: o, why do you post on a random web site like Fark? Call it a day. Ask for your regular paycheck from the GOP. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.


1/10 x 2
 
2014-07-19 05:28:37 PM  

nyseattitude: AltheaToldMe: UNC_Samurai: You mean they actually ban annoying threadshiatters? I have a hard time believing it.

Christ, if this were the case there would be far fewer people posting.

The GOP sucks any more.  Just seriously farking sucks.  And this is from a former Conservative member of the party.

My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.

Fark politicians.

I've always been undeclared. I'll never vote for or contribute to a Republican again. I'll actively contribute and vote against any Republican or Teabagger.


Undeclared, but only vote Democrat, I presume?
 
2014-07-19 05:29:51 PM  

AltheaToldMe: Delay: So, vote Republican? Good to know.

I hope you didn't injure yourself jumping to that conclusion.

Delay: o, why do you post on a random web site like Fark? Call it a day. Ask for your regular paycheck from the GOP. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.

1/10 x 2


Thanks for "contributing" to the conversation. What is your point?
 
2014-07-19 05:30:58 PM  

Mrbogey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.

A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?  A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.


10/10!

You are really good at this!!
 
2014-07-19 05:40:48 PM  

ElLoco: nyseattitude: AltheaToldMe: UNC_Samurai: You mean they actually ban annoying threadshiatters? I have a hard time believing it.

Christ, if this were the case there would be far fewer people posting.

The GOP sucks any more.  Just seriously farking sucks.  And this is from a former Conservative member of the party.

My voter registration card says "No Party Affiliation" now.

Fark politicians.

I've always been undeclared. I'll never vote for or contribute to a Republican again. I'll actively contribute and vote against any Republican or Teabagger.

Undeclared, but only vote Democrat, I presume?


Not historically. I've voted for and contributed to candidates of both parties. I only stopped voting Republican at the Federal level after 2003. I decided to stop voting (and donating) Republican completely about a year and a half/two years ago.

I've really desired a viable third party, or alternatives, for the past fifteen years.
 
2014-07-19 05:43:56 PM  

Sammichless: Mrbogey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.

A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?  A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.

10/10!

You are really good at this!!


Dude, Mrbogey is firmly on your side. Why are you mad? Introduce yourselves somewhere.
 
2014-07-19 05:50:46 PM  

Delay: Thanks for "contributing" to the conversation. What is your point?


You must be speaking to yourself, sir/madam.  I was thinking the same reading your replies to me.  Replies so fervent and cutting edge that you had to type it in so fast and furious that you forgot to add your second fine, snarky line and had to double-post.

Take a moment, take a deep breath and get all your trolling out in one go.

I simply failed to see the relevance of your replies to me.  If you're privy to my voting record, please post it up so you can really call me out like the GOP mouthbreather you probably have me labeled as.  I'll wait.

I know this is how trolls work, but it never ceases to make me laugh.
 
2014-07-19 06:22:55 PM  

BMFPitt: Mrbogey: A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?   A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.

[www.tfw2005.com image 383x192]


It's the only side it can really be found on any more.

Gecko Gingrich: Hey, "That man should be legally barred from loving that other man," is totes different from, "That man should be legally barred from grazing his cattle on public land unless he pays the fee to do so."

There's no Republican pushing to outlaw love.

moothemagiccow: Yeah it was the democrats that created the department of homeland security and authorized the nsa to listen to your phone calls. I remember it starting right after Obama's inauguration in January 2001.


The Democrats supported it at the time and since we can't vote against Bush...
 
2014-07-19 06:34:35 PM  

moothemagiccow: Yeah it was the democrats that created the department of homeland security and authorized the nsa to listen to your phone calls. I remember it starting right after Obama's inauguration in January 2001.


The NSA's domestic surveillance program actually started back in the 1990's. Yes, the DHS was created under Republicans, but it was fully supported by Democrats, and that agency and the NSA program enjoy wide bipartisan support with objection coming from the more civil libertarian-minded fringes of both parties. And you can pay lip service to how much you don't like it, and maybe you don't, but if you voted for Bush or Obama or most incumbent GOP or DNC candidates for national office in the last decade, you voted for people who actively supported these policies. And maybe you do have a problem with this, but odds are, there are other issues you just decided were more important to you personally than our country becoming a police state. The only civil liberty Democrats defend with every thing they've got any more is abortion and the GOP is useless. Maybe you think abortion is more important. Or healthcare reform. Or both. But they truth is that you don't feel strongly enough about DHS or NSA surveillance to hold the people responsible accountable. You just keep supporting them. So, say it all you want. But, your actions say something else.
 
2014-07-19 06:45:36 PM  
Long ago Martha prosecuted a case I was involved with. My foster daughter accused her father of abusing her.
One day, after the trial, I was doing laundry and found a note from my foster daughter that effectively admitted she made up the accusations. It's complicated. He was an ass. But she convicted him and that has diminished my opinion of her.
 
2014-07-19 06:47:48 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.


We really, really, liked William Weld.


"Government should stay out of your wallet and your bedroom." -- Bill Weld.
 
2014-07-19 07:13:47 PM  
Who convinced Martha "Insult the home team and vacation instead of campaigning cause gosh a Democrat doesn't actually need to campaign to win in Mass." Coakley to run?
 
2014-07-19 07:29:05 PM  

snocone: Anybody else notice the new GOP tactic of pretending they are not GOP candidates?
Some asshat is already running TV campaign ads in Minnesota and somehow forgets amid his pile of kids and puppies that he is Republican.
All the farkers coming to my door will only admit GOP connection if you pin them down with the correct questions.

Stupid is as stupid does


Rebranding time. We're not rapepublicans, we're nonconsentualsexatarians!
 
2014-07-19 08:03:06 PM  

what_now: lilbjorn: ManateeGag: yeah.  they never had a Republican governor before.  just like that super liberal NJ.  No Republican governors here either.

People who didn't live through it, don't realize that four of the last five governors of Massachusetts have been Republicans.  And the current Democrat seems to be in the pocket of Sheldon Adelson's gambling cohorts (along with Coakley).

Lol. Yeah. We're in bed with Sheldon Adelson. Because the diff'rence Between a gentlemen and a bum, With a capital "B,"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool!

Calm down. A casino is a great thing for Massachusetts.


There's a fantasy out there that casinos create jobs and generate huge tax revenue. In reality very few people will come from out of state to a MA casino. They may recapture a little revenue from MA residents who won't have to go to CT any more, but most of the revenue will come from residents who would have spent that money in other MA businesses or bought MA lottery tickets. It's a zero sum game where the casino owners win and the local businesses and the state lottery are the losers.
 
2014-07-19 08:06:33 PM  
Subby if this shocks you look at the upcoming Georgia Senate and Governors races.  It may be too much to hope for but it looks reasonable, moderate candidates are gaining support once again.
 
2014-07-19 08:07:57 PM  
Martha Coakley is a goddamn fark up.  I'd vote for her only because she's not Republican.
 
2014-07-19 08:21:55 PM  
I know people on Fark think I'm a hopeless righty troll, but I have voted for two Democrat governors in recent years in VA.  I'll vote on the person, not the party. Total Fark is incapable of such distinctions though. It requires you staying informed on the issues and having an open mind. If your only source of news is a cowardly comedian, you are not an informed voter.
 
2014-07-19 08:43:19 PM  
I never took statistics, but I thought a 3 point leads with a margin of error of +/- 4 points means that the actual results could be from -1 to +7.

1. Am I right about that and if so
2. does that count as 'a statistical tie'?
 
2014-07-19 09:21:40 PM  
blog.thephoenix.com

/oldie but goodie
 
2014-07-19 10:21:49 PM  
So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?
 
2014-07-19 10:31:53 PM  

TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?


Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.
 
2014-07-20 12:21:58 AM  

LordJiro: TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?

Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.


A Democrat in Massachusetts that ran a campaign so ineptly that a Republican won. She's a terrible person.
 
2014-07-20 12:31:38 AM  

machoprogrammer: Summercat: Mrbogey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.

A functioning brain? A memory that exists more than a few years? A fairly decent understanding of politics and history?  A disdain for authoritarian government? Just the top reasons off the top of my head.

Enough about why to vote against the Republicans, why vote for them?

Think how stupid your average person is. Then remember half the population is stupider than that


People who tell that joke are invariably much closer to that "average" level of intelligence than they think.

Also, it only works with "median" but that's getting a bit too sophisticated for the typical person who thinks it is a clever joke.
 
2014-07-20 01:45:29 AM  

J Noble Daggett: Long ago Martha prosecuted a case I was involved with. My foster daughter accused her father of abusing her. One day, after the trial, I was doing laundry and found a note from my foster daughter that effectively admitted she made up the accusations. It's complicated. He was an ass. But she convicted him and that has diminished my opinion of her.


So you were fooled by your foster daughter's story until you found the note, but you think a complete stranger should have known better?
 
2014-07-20 02:19:07 AM  

doublesecretprobation: massachusetts has a well established reputation for electing republican governors.  this is only surprising to people who aren't from massachusetts who aren't familiar with the large blue-collar conservative population.


california also
 
2014-07-20 03:08:55 AM  

AeAe: LordJiro: TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?

Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.

A Democrat in Massachusetts that ran a campaign so ineptly that a Republican won. She's a terrible person.


That seems like pretty thin pretence to me, but then again it doesn't take much for the neckbeard squad to get all Outragey McHowlerMonkey over here.

Also, the Red Sox can suck a big one. So there is that.
 
2014-07-20 03:58:53 AM  

LordJiro: TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?

Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.


Not being from Massachusetts, I'm a bit fuzzy on that story.  It was my understanding Coakley failed to campaign at Fenway during the 2010 NHL Winter Classic rather than a Red Sox game because she thought it was unimportant.  Of course, I could be wrong so maybe some Boston Farker could fill me in.  Either way, however, it does show how politically tone deaf Coakley is.
 
2014-07-20 06:29:52 AM  

TwistedFark: AeAe: LordJiro: TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?

Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.

A Democrat in Massachusetts that ran a campaign so ineptly that a Republican won. She's a terrible person.

That seems like pretty thin pretence to me, but then again it doesn't take much for the neckbeard squad to get all Outragey McHowlerMonkey over here.


Weird conclusion to draw, given that the people complaining the loudest about the Coakley "chick" are the most likely to get all swoony over Elizabeth Warren. But yeah, you run with that "it must be misogyny" theory, hoss. The fact of the matter is that the woman blew a double-digit lead over Scott Brown, and Scott Brown is a chump. Thankfully, he has since then lost his gig to Warren.
 
2014-07-20 06:31:19 AM  
God what the fark is wrong with Massachusetts?

This is a farking repeat, right?
 
2014-07-20 06:53:28 AM  

NDP2: LordJiro: TwistedFark: So, what's actually wrong with this Martha chick? Is it just typical Fark hate (tm) for any politician with a vagina, or did she actually do something scorn worthy?

Also - the article makes it look like she doesn't even have the nomination yet, so what gives? Hypothetical matchup or poorly worded article?

Coakley was the dipshiat that gave us Scott Brown, because she assumed that, as a Democrat in Massachusetts, she didn't have to actually, y'know, campaign. Also, she dissed the Red Sox in Massachusetts.

Basically, she's just a dumbass.

Not being from Massachusetts, I'm a bit fuzzy on that story.  It was my understanding Coakley failed to campaign at Fenway during the 2010 NHL Winter Classic rather than a Red Sox game because she thought it was unimportant.  Of course, I could be wrong so maybe some Boston Farker could fill me in.  Either way, however, it does show how politically tone deaf Coakley is.


"As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?"

It'll always be right up there with John P. "I don't know - they haven't told me yet" O'Brien.
 
2014-07-20 10:24:24 AM  

Cubicle Jockey: raerae1980: Why would ANYONE vote Republican? Shame in you.


We really, really, liked William Weld.


I loved Weld and I live the next state over.
 
2014-07-20 10:38:58 AM  

Stile4aly: The answer is that Massachusetts Republicans would be considered Democrats in any red state.


Yep, like when Gov. Bill Weld got tapped by Clinton to be Ambassador to Mexico, only to get shot down by Jesse Helms because he supported treatment for drug addicts and was therefore too liberal.
 
2014-07-20 10:42:09 AM  
Coakley? Entitled, detached, and inept beyond dealing with her boardroom buddies. If she didn't learn her lesson the last time, she certainly doesn't deserve to win now.
 
2014-07-20 10:56:21 AM  
It all started when the Irish killed the Pilgrims.
 
2014-07-20 11:21:34 AM  

whidbey: God what the fark is wrong with Massachusetts?

This is a farking repeat, right?


Nothing.  We told her to go pound sand, got Brown as a joke for a few months, and elected Elizabeth Warren as our senator.

The right question is whats wrong with the Dem party of Massachusetts up on Beacon Hill?  Coakley is a hack, and a lot of us liberals will never pull the level for her.  Apparently they didn't get the message the first time.
 
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