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2014-07-18 08:48:50 PM  
Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.
 
2014-07-18 10:21:57 PM  
Uggla has always been Phillies kryptonite.  Maybe we can trade Howard, Rollins, Utley, and several players to be named later for him.

/go phils
//back
///farther
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2014-07-18 11:16:14 PM  

Prey4reign: Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.


Hasn't he been ugly for the past two years?
 
2014-07-18 11:22:45 PM  

Prey4reign: Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.


If you're Uggla, you gotta be good with your bat or you'll never impress the ladies
 
2014-07-18 11:35:20 PM  
that's an awful lot of contract to eat
 
2014-07-18 11:44:24 PM  

Rwa2play: Prey4reign: Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.

Hasn't he been ugly for the past two years?


Didn't it basically fall of a cliff after he left Florida?
 
2014-07-19 12:13:03 AM  

bhcompy: Didn't it basically fall of a cliff after he left Florida?


It was all downhill since winning 2008 ASG MVP.
 
2014-07-19 12:20:23 AM  

bhcompy: Rwa2play: Prey4reign: Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.

Hasn't he been ugly for the past two years?

Didn't it basically fall of a cliff after he left Florida?


This; once he signed that contract with Atlanta it's been craptacular from him.
 
2014-07-19 12:20:58 AM  

The Bestest: that's an awful lot of contract to eat


It's worth it to get rid of him, he's been shiaty at the plate and a liability in the field this year.
 
2014-07-19 12:23:28 AM  

bhcompy: Rwa2play: Prey4reign: Not too surprising.  Uggla's play has really been ugly of late.

Hasn't he been ugly for the past two years?

Didn't it basically fall of a cliff after he left Florida?


He hit 36 HR his first year in ATL so it seemed likely that he had the ability to raise the average a bit and draw more walks.  Not so much now.
 
2014-07-19 12:25:19 AM  
Amaro will sign him to a 5-year, $125m extension soon.
 
2014-07-19 12:31:40 AM  

LessO2: Amaro Cashman will sign him to a 5-year, $125m extension soon.


FTFY
 
2014-07-19 12:36:46 AM  

LessO2: Amaro will sign him to a 5-year, $125m extension soon.


He is kinda dumb sometimes, but not that dumb. He was a "lets get him" thing a few years ago, now not so much...
 
2014-07-19 01:16:25 AM  

RoyHobbs22: LessO2: Amaro Cashman will sign him to a 5-year, $125m extension soon.

FTFY


Nah, Cashman's MO is overpaying/trading for relief pitchers that are a stiff breeze away from their elbow exploding, not for over-the-hill hitters. He gets THOSE on the cheap (hell, usually other teams pay HIM to take them).
 
2014-07-19 01:33:11 AM  
Gotta wonder if Texas will kick the tires on Uggla when he clears waivers. Even though he stinks, he would probably be a better option at 1b than JP Arencibia (of course he hit a two-run bomb tonight).
 
2014-07-19 01:42:26 AM  

The Bestest: that's an awful lot of contract to eat


At some point, the roster spot has got to be more important than sitting him just because you don't want to get rid of the money.

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There is talk (Braves beat reporter, local radio braves personalities) that loans connected to the new stadium were affected by the idea of the Braves eating that much salary. So, a few percentage points of interest on huge loans is a big thing.
 
2014-07-19 07:04:27 AM  
"Released" is such an ugly word. Say "platooning with Jason Bay" instead.
 
2014-07-19 08:25:07 AM  

The Bestest: that's an awful lot of contract to eat


and good work, if you can get it.
 
2014-07-19 08:33:41 AM  

The Bestest: pitchers that are a stiff breeze away from their elbow exploding,


In other words, every pitcher?

/have we hit 50 surgeries this year yet?
 
2014-07-19 09:36:45 AM  

ladodger34: Gotta wonder if Texas will kick the tires on Uggla when he clears waivers. Even though he stinks, he would probably be a better option at 1b than JP Arencibia (of course he hit a two-run bomb tonight).


Right now, any team can pick up Uggla for the MLB minimum, pro-rated for the number of games remaining.  It's about $200K.  The Braves couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, but there are a lot of teams that have a lot of nothing at the end of their bench that could take a chance for $200K.

That said, he's an iron-gloved 2B, so there's not a lot of places you can put him, and players with his skill set (low-contact, high-power, relying on walks to build value) don't age all that well.  Once the contact goes even a little, the walks go away as pitchers don't bother to nibble.

But if it works even a little, the Braves are paying him $13M in 2015, so you can get him at the MLB minimum for 1.5 years.  And laugh at the Braves.
 
2014-07-19 10:26:31 AM  

chimp_ninja: ladodger34: Gotta wonder if Texas will kick the tires on Uggla when he clears waivers. Even though he stinks, he would probably be a better option at 1b than JP Arencibia (of course he hit a two-run bomb tonight).

Right now, any team can pick up Uggla for the MLB minimum, pro-rated for the number of games remaining.  It's about $200K.  The Braves couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, but there are a lot of teams that have a lot of nothing at the end of their bench that could take a chance for $200K.

That said, he's an iron-gloved 2B, so there's not a lot of places you can put him, and players with his skill set (low-contact, high-power, relying on walks to build value) don't age all that well.  Once the contact goes even a little, the walks go away as pitchers don't bother to nibble.

But if it works even a little, the Braves are paying him $13M in 2015, so you can get him at the MLB minimum for 1.5 years.  And laugh at the Braves.


Nobody is going to pick him up since he has to stay in that rooster spot for the rest of the season, there is a reason why he wasn't released till now.

And as stated he's been horrible at best in the field while hitting has just went to shiat which was his saving grace.

You're telling me that someone will waste a spot on a player who can't hit and can't field because the braves, who brought in 3 great hitting coaches to fix him just gave up? Nice logic there Lou.
 
2014-07-19 12:13:46 PM  

steamingpile: chimp_ninja: ladodger34: Gotta wonder if Texas will kick the tires on Uggla when he clears waivers. Even though he stinks, he would probably be a better option at 1b than JP Arencibia (of course he hit a two-run bomb tonight).

Right now, any team can pick up Uggla for the MLB minimum, pro-rated for the number of games remaining.  It's about $200K.  The Braves couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, but there are a lot of teams that have a lot of nothing at the end of their bench that could take a chance for $200K.

That said, he's an iron-gloved 2B, so there's not a lot of places you can put him, and players with his skill set (low-contact, high-power, relying on walks to build value) don't age all that well.  Once the contact goes even a little, the walks go away as pitchers don't bother to nibble.

But if it works even a little, the Braves are paying him $13M in 2015, so you can get him at the MLB minimum for 1.5 years.  And laugh at the Braves.

Nobody is going to pick him up since he has to stay in that rooster spot for the rest of the season, there is a reason why he wasn't released till now.

And as stated he's been horrible at best in the field while hitting has just went to shiat which was his saving grace.

You're telling me that someone will waste a spot on a player who can't hit and can't field because the braves, who brought in 3 great hitting coaches to fix him just gave up? Nice logic there Lou.


Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year? If he stinks or is a jerk, his new team can release him and is only on the hook for the pro-rated minimum.

As to why someone would sign him after his failures with the Braves? Baseball is full of egotistical people that are certain they can fix anyone.
 
2014-07-19 12:40:06 PM  

steamingpile: Nobody is going to pick him up since he has to stay in that rooster spot for the rest of the season, there is a reason why he wasn't released till now.

And as stated he's been horrible at best in the field while hitting has just went to shiat which was his saving grace.

You're telling me that someone will waste a spot on a player who can't hit and can't field because the braves, who brought in 3 great hitting coaches to fix him just gave up? Nice logic there Lou.


1) Maybe if your team is 11th in the NL in OPS despite playing in a somewhat hitter-friendly park with an above-average payroll ($111M for 2014), the hitting coaches aren't "great".

2) For $200K, yes.  I'd take a chance on a guy that put up ~3 WAR per year from 2006-2012 then fell apart under Atlanta's "great" hitting coaches.  Throw him in AAA and see if he can hit his way back into the majors.  If I think there's a 90% chance it doesn't work, and a 10% chance that he turns into a platoon starter or 4th outfielder, that's a positive return on investment.
 
2014-07-19 01:17:51 PM  

ladodger34: Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year?


Protip: you're talking to someone who has absolutely no idea how mlb rosters work.
 
2014-07-19 01:51:51 PM  

DeWayne Mann: ladodger34: Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year?

Protip: you're talking to someone who has absolutely no idea how mlb rosters work.


I'm pretty sure steamingpile is correct that anyone who signs Dan Uggla has to make him team owner, use Bartolo Colon as a designated hitter, and lock their old GM in a 1970s bullpen car.

steamingpile knows everything about baseball and is never wrong.  He is definitely not a running joke on this tab.
 
2014-07-19 01:58:38 PM  

chimp_ninja: lock their old GM in a 1970s bullpen car.


If you had said current GM, then Uggla would be an awesome signing for a lot of teams.

Still might be a good one for the Padres under those rules though.
 
2014-07-19 02:06:51 PM  

The Bestest: that's an awful lot of contract to eat


It is, but they should have eaten it two years ago if winning was a goal.  The guy is terrible.
 
2014-07-19 02:44:00 PM  

chimp_ninja: DeWayne Mann: ladodger34: Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year?

Protip: you're talking to someone who has absolutely no idea how mlb rosters work.

I'm pretty sure steamingpile is correct that anyone who signs Dan Uggla has to make him team owner, use Bartolo Colon as a designated hitter, and lock their old GM in a 1970s bullpen car.

steamingpile knows everything about baseball and is never wrong.  He is definitely not a running joke on this tab.



I don't think Bartolo Colon would fit into a 1970s bullpen car.
 
2014-07-19 06:24:34 PM  

ladodger34: steamingpile: chimp_ninja: ladodger34: Gotta wonder if Texas will kick the tires on Uggla when he clears waivers. Even though he stinks, he would probably be a better option at 1b than JP Arencibia (of course he hit a two-run bomb tonight).

Right now, any team can pick up Uggla for the MLB minimum, pro-rated for the number of games remaining.  It's about $200K.  The Braves couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, but there are a lot of teams that have a lot of nothing at the end of their bench that could take a chance for $200K.

That said, he's an iron-gloved 2B, so there's not a lot of places you can put him, and players with his skill set (low-contact, high-power, relying on walks to build value) don't age all that well.  Once the contact goes even a little, the walks go away as pitchers don't bother to nibble.

But if it works even a little, the Braves are paying him $13M in 2015, so you can get him at the MLB minimum for 1.5 years.  And laugh at the Braves.

Nobody is going to pick him up since he has to stay in that rooster spot for the rest of the season, there is a reason why he wasn't released till now.

And as stated he's been horrible at best in the field while hitting has just went to shiat which was his saving grace.

You're telling me that someone will waste a spot on a player who can't hit and can't field because the braves, who brought in 3 great hitting coaches to fix him just gave up? Nice logic there Lou.

Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year? If he stinks or is a jerk, his new team can release him and is only on the hook for the pro-rated minimum.

As to why someone would sign him after his failures with the Braves? Baseball is full of egotistical people that are certain they can fix anyone.


That depends on if he makes it through waivers which was still not clear at the time this first came out, one means you have to keep them on the roster and his salary, the other is just him on the roster while being paid whatever they negotiate. Now if he makes it through waivers which is likely then all bets are off, he still sucks though and even his obp is waaaaaay down since he relied on walks for that and with him not making contact there is no need to try and make him chase shiat pitches.
 
2014-07-19 06:28:21 PM  

chimp_ninja: DeWayne Mann: ladodger34: Why would he have to stay on the roster for the rest of the year?

Protip: you're talking to someone who has absolutely no idea how mlb rosters work.

I'm pretty sure steamingpile is correct that anyone who signs Dan Uggla has to make him team owner, use Bartolo Colon as a designated hitter, and lock their old GM in a 1970s bullpen car.

steamingpile knows everything about baseball and is never wrong.  He is definitely not a running joke on this tab.


I love how this is a running gag while ignoring shiat plays out the way I state in threads, hell even when I said UGA would lose to Colorado a few years ago people said I was an idiot and I was right.

I have never stated anything like I know everything about anything, I understand it comes across that way but oh well. There are numerous ways a MLB player can be released and apparently uggla was a little biatch about possibly being DFA according to behind the scenes rumors so fark him.
 
2014-07-19 09:05:47 PM  
a former starter still guaranteed over $18 million for the remainder of this year and next.

Damn. I wish I could get someone to pay me $18 million to not play baseball. I'm really good at not playing baseball.
 
2014-07-19 09:28:54 PM  

Cybernetic: a former starter still guaranteed over $18 million for the remainder of this year and next.

Damn. I wish I could get someone to pay me $18 million to not play baseball. I'm really good at not playing baseball.


And, if I recall correctly, whoever signs him only has to pay the minimum and the rest is covered by the team that cut his guaranteed contract.
 
2014-07-19 10:56:13 PM  

bhcompy: Cybernetic: a former starter still guaranteed over $18 million for the remainder of this year and next.

Damn. I wish I could get someone to pay me $18 million to not play baseball. I'm really good at not playing baseball.

And, if I recall correctly, whoever signs him only has to pay the minimum and the rest is covered by the team that cut his guaranteed contract.


You would think that, according to the rules of Major League Baseball.   However, steamingpile has discovered that whoever signs Dan Uggla has to pay him a million jillion dollars, name him as the starting pitcher in all playoff games, instruct their players to all wear Uggs boots during games, and require that any weddings the players attend have to use Master P's "Make 'Em Say 'Ugg'" as the bride walks down the aisle.

It's all according to behind the scenes rumors that steamingpile's best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Dan Uggla pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.  He once successfully guessed who would win a college sportsball game several years ago, you know.
 
2014-07-20 03:01:15 AM  
The Good, the Bad and the Uggla.
 
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