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(Fox News)   Oh, look, suddenly Putin wants a ceasefire in Eastern Ukraine   (foxnews.com) divider line 29
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2014-07-18 07:50:00 PM
6 votes:
Republicans praising the President of Russia

i.imgur.com

Seriously, if Ron was still around and in his right mind that's what he just might be saying.
2014-07-18 06:26:43 PM
5 votes:
i1.ytimg.com
2014-07-18 04:13:49 PM
4 votes:
He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.
2014-07-18 06:54:41 PM
3 votes:
Putin: "Can we please have a ceasefire so that the dumbfarks that I was stupid enough to give incredibly powerful anti-aircraft missiles don't go and shoot down another damn airliner and make me look like even more of an @sshole than I already do?"
2014-07-18 08:40:51 PM
2 votes:

FormlessOne: ..and yet Fark Conservatards keep supporting this asshole. It's beyond me.


He's authoritarian.  He favors the rich.  He invades countries on a whim to advance his empire.  He tortures prisoners.  He has a compliant media that spins the news in his favor.  He uses bravado and propaganda in place of real leadership.  He never admits mistakes.  He hates Europe.  He hates Obama.

Why wouldn't they love him?
2014-07-18 07:46:08 PM
2 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: jake_lex: "Putin is playing chess, and I think we are playing marbles - and I don't think it's even close...They've been running circles around us."

--Rep, Mike Rogers, (R-IN), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, on Fox News Sunday, March 2, 2014

Sure... that's why Putin is getting weaker and weaker while the US position strengthens.

Haters gonna hate.


It was just surreal around that time seeing Republicans praising the President of Russia -- of  Russia!-- over the President of the United States.

but even at the time, a serious analysis of the situation should have shown anyone that Putin had made a serious mistake, and whatever short-term gain he got by taking Crimea is far outweighed by the long-term mess he has gotten Russia into.
2014-07-18 07:35:23 PM
2 votes:
www.trbimg.com

"We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger. Shall I have your ship standing by?"

"Evacuate, in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!"
2014-07-18 04:20:17 PM
2 votes:
Looks like someone just figured out they are losing and wants to preserve the status quo.
2014-07-19 12:23:38 PM
1 votes:

Pichu0102: Sigh. Man, fark this world. So because of underhanded businessmen, criminals, sociopaths obsessed with power and waving their metaphorical dick around, the grand majority of people around the world, not just Russians, who just want to live a peaceful, simple life are screwed over by the big few people more than willing to take advantage of the average person's goodwill, is that about right?

I wish we had finally figured out some kind of roadmap to a better world to live in in my generation, but I guess that's not happening, and we're leaving behind a shiatty example for the next generation. I know one day a generation will finally come along and fix what we, our past, and our future generations wrought, but until then, we're all at each other's throats over the stupidest shiat and useless pride.


You also have to understand that the Russians as a people have been getting farked over hard since the Mongol invasions.  They have always been leery of outsiders and have turned paranoia into an art form.  While I certainly don't want to apologize for Russian adventurism in Eastern Europe, they see the expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe and the American missile shield as direct actionable threats to their existence.  It's hard to convince them otherwise, especially when you have neocons like McCain popping up every ten minutes threatening to nuke them.
2014-07-19 11:49:59 AM
1 votes:
This awfulness has done the one thing that he didn't want. It's given the west a seat at the table. The US Republicans have been screaming that Obama should be doing something in Ukraine. Well, the US has never dictated terms in that part of the world, even when Europe was garrisoned during the Cold War. You have no stakes in that game.

However, murdering 300 Europeans changes things. You do something like that and people will look for you. In fact, they won't stop.

Now, as we learned when the USSR shot down the Japanese airliner KAL007 and the US missile ship Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner, when the big powers do something wrong, it counts for less. Well, Russia's a lot less powerful these days and so perhaps a fundamental point of criminal justice will not be lost: that he who knowingly furnishes the apparatus of a crime is considered an accessory to a crime.

So, who decided to order the placement of missile batteries in Eastern Ukraine? A private with a truck driver's licence is not the one who made that decision.
2014-07-19 10:03:34 AM
1 votes:

Grahor: Pichu0102: Still don't understand why Russia wants to cut itself off from the rest of the modern world instead of join us

They've tried, after the fall of the USSR. The result was terrifying powerty, demolition of law and society, 10% to 15% of population loss in 10 years, small number of western businessmen willing to do business in Russia (and large number of local criminals) robbing the people blind, western advisers offering stupid and destructive, in the short and in the long run, advice, and the rest of the world saying "well, it's all your own fault. If you weren't so stupid and backward, you wouldn't be that deep in shiat. So don't look at me now. It's your own job to dig yourself out."

And it wasn't exactly wrong: it WAS their fault, since they had no idea how to live in the non-Soviet world and weren't capable to learn fast enough. But now they don't see any value in "joining you". They know that they are alone and forever will be, they have no desire in "joining" anyone, and they dig themselves out as they know how. Admittedly, they do it shiatty, but it's the only way they know.

Pichu0102: and take over territory instead.

Please understand, it's not about territory. It's about emotions. It's about being, as a country, a bully. In their mind you can be either a bully and take what you want and do what you want (point in case: USA) or bullied, and they are fed up with being bullied. So they are being a bully.

Specifics are unimportant. Territory, Novorossia, they don't give a damn. It's about power, about being a bully. They do whatever they want, look at clucking, powerless neighbors and the world and they feel empowered.

Pichu0102: Of course, the USSR splits less than a few decades ago, but you'd think some high ranking people would want to integrate with the rest of the world, especially for trading purposes.

Why would high ranking people want to "trade"? They have already everything they want! They are not interested in making more money, they w ...


Sigh. Man, fark this world. So because of underhanded businessmen, criminals, sociopaths obsessed with power and waving their metaphorical dick around, the grand majority of people around the world, not just Russians, who just want to live a peaceful, simple life are screwed over by the big few people more than willing to take advantage of the average person's goodwill, is that about right?

I wish we had finally figured out some kind of roadmap to a better world to live in in my generation, but I guess that's not happening, and we're leaving behind a shiatty example for the next generation. I know one day a generation will finally come along and fix what we, our past, and our future generations wrought, but until then, we're all at each other's throats over the stupidest shiat and useless pride.
2014-07-19 09:11:17 AM
1 votes:

Pichu0102: Still don't understand why Russia wants to cut itself off from the rest of the modern world instead of join us


They've tried, after the fall of the USSR. The result was terrifying powerty, demolition of law and society, 10% to 15% of population loss in 10 years, small number of western businessmen willing to do business in Russia (and large number of local criminals) robbing the people blind, western advisers offering stupid and destructive, in the short and in the long run, advice, and the rest of the world saying "well, it's all your own fault. If you weren't so stupid and backward, you wouldn't be that deep in shiat. So don't look at me now. It's your own job to dig yourself out."

And it wasn't exactly wrong: it WAS their fault, since they had no idea how to live in the non-Soviet world and weren't capable to learn fast enough. But now they don't see any value in "joining you". They know that they are alone and forever will be, they have no desire in "joining" anyone, and they dig themselves out as they know how. Admittedly, they do it shiatty, but it's the only way they know.

Pichu0102: and take over territory instead.


Please understand, it's not about territory. It's about emotions. It's about being, as a country, a bully. In their mind you can be either a bully and take what you want and do what you want (point in case: USA) or bullied, and they are fed up with being bullied. So they are being a bully.

Specifics are unimportant. Territory, Novorossia, they don't give a damn. It's about power, about being a bully. They do whatever they want, look at clucking, powerless neighbors and the world and they feel empowered.

Pichu0102: Of course, the USSR splits less than a few decades ago, but you'd think some high ranking people would want to integrate with the rest of the world, especially for trading purposes.


Why would high ranking people want to "trade"? They have already everything they want! They are not interested in making more money, they want power. Power over lives and deaths. Power to do what they want. Have you seen "House of Cards"? The main character there says, with contempt, "he exchanged power for mere money". That's how Russians see it.
2014-07-19 02:44:39 AM
1 votes:

Danger Avoid Death: rooftop235: Hey guys, I am lost. Are there three fronts to this Ukrainian thing (Russians, rebels, Ukrainian gov't)?
/I like apostrophes.

Four fronts if you count the vampires.


Nah, those are all in Mexico.....

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2014-07-19 02:08:30 AM
1 votes:
Pootie Poot is a relick of the cold war. He needs to be put down hard. His admirors on the American right need the same.
2014-07-18 11:11:38 PM
1 votes:

Animatronik: This is what Democrats actually believe.

The reality is that Putin has never been more popular inside of Russia and he hardly cares what you or Obama think.


No, the reality is that today's Republican can see about as far ahead as a lab rat. Putin could have easily left things the way they were with Crimea -- nobody was going to do shiat about that, and he could have walked away with an easy victory for the Motherland. Instead, he went all Bush circa 2003 and let his ego and bravado get the best of him. He's now in a situation where his proxy army in eastern Ukraine has shot down an airliner using (probably) Russian equipment, the rebel leader in charge of that area has no resigned, and the Russian economy, which was already slowing anyway, is now at risk of entering a recession, and that's not even taking into account the impending fallout from murdering 298 civilians, most of them European. Putin is riding a wave of nationalism right now, but we'll see how long that lasts when their economy goes to shiat and their trade relationships with Europe are permanently damaged.
2014-07-18 10:51:02 PM
1 votes:

DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]

I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."

Good find. I waded through 50 links to articles recommending the opposite and gave up.


Yeah, most travel advice people are only thinking about the TSA lines. I wore the same slip-on shoes while flying for a while before I heard the advice about safety. Now I'd rather take an extra 60 seconds going through security than die because I couldn't climb out of a crashed airplane fast enough, or help other people.
2014-07-18 10:37:24 PM
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: Kittypie070: And then loudly remind my Republitownies DAILY that Saint Ronaldus Magnus once named the Russians the EVIL EMPIRE after KAL007 was shot down.

He might also remind Republicans of this quote from when the Ruskies shot down the Korean Air flight in 1983:

"We've got to protect against overreaction. Vengeance isn't the name of the game." -- Ronald Reagan

He was being criticized at the time for not doing enough and for looking weak. And that was regarding a flight that originated from US soil, unlike the crash in Ukraine. A sober reminder of a time when Republicans weren't all pants-on-head retarded @ssholes like every one of them is now.


Go back to the politics tab, scumbag.
2014-07-18 08:54:16 PM
1 votes:
i.imgbox.com
2014-07-18 08:44:16 PM
1 votes:

Kittypie070: Republicans praising the President of Russia

[i.imgur.com image 464x434]

Seriously, if Ron was still around and in his right mind that's what he just might be saying.


I'm pretty sure he'd be saying that no matter the state of his mind.
2014-07-18 08:33:43 PM
1 votes:
How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.
2014-07-18 08:22:05 PM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.


But he's serious this time!

Just kidding, Putin will call for ceasefire publicly but will also continue to support the "rebels" secretly so when the time comes he could say "See? I have no control over them guys, why are you all pointing fingers at me?"
2014-07-18 08:16:41 PM
1 votes:
A cease fire is great, but what altitude does it kick in at?
2014-07-18 08:16:22 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: "While his stance as a defender of traditional values has drawn the mockery of Western media and cultural elites, Putin is not wrong in saying that he can speak for much of mankind."  -Pat Buchanan

GRABOVO, Ukraine - Incongruously, given that the plane fell from more than 30,000 feet, many of the bodies strewn about in the smoldering wreckage of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 were largely intact. A woman in a black sweater lay on her back, blood streaming from her face, her left arm raised as if signaling someone. Another victim, naked except for a black bra, lay on the field, her gray hair mixing with the green grass, one leg broken and her body torn.

"There was a howling noise and everything started to rattle. Then objects started falling out of the sky," the 65-year-old pensioner said in front of her grey-brick home.
"And then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken," she said, showing the gaping hole made by the body when it came through the ceiling of the kitchen in an extension to the house.
The dead woman's naked body was still lying inside the house, next to a bed.

Great work, Pat.  I get it that you hate Obozo, but praising what was clearly a bad man was always going to end badly for you.


Statements like Buchanan's really make me wish I had a smite button.
2014-07-18 08:15:36 PM
1 votes:

zerkalo: Reaping the whirlwind


Funny thing is, Whirlwind (Wirbelwind) is also the name of a German anti-aircraft gun mounted on the Panzer IV chassis.
2014-07-18 08:07:02 PM
1 votes:

jake_lex: It was just surreal around that time seeing Republicans praising the President of Russia -- of  Russia!-- over the President of the United States.


Yeah, but did you see this picture of greasy Putin in the article? They never would have run with that way back ... about 2 months ago.
2014-07-18 07:42:45 PM
1 votes:

Bith Set Me Up: [www.trbimg.com image 594x396]

"We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger. Shall I have your ship standing by?"

"Evacuate, in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!"


Let's see if we can get Peter Cushing to play Putin's future appearances.
2014-07-18 07:34:11 PM
1 votes:
Here's a present for you, Vladimir.

mousebreath.com
2014-07-18 06:35:43 PM
1 votes:
Sure, let's schedule it for Fark You O'clock
2014-07-18 04:21:17 PM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.


Fun Fact:  the strict translation of "ceasefire" in Russian is "stop hitting yourself."
 
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