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2014-07-18 08:20:10 PM  
Land a huge farking UN strikeforce in Eastern Ukraine, shoot everyone with a gun.

Canada is looking for a new peace keeping mission, worked well in Kosovo.
 
2014-07-18 08:22:05 PM  

RexTalionis: He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.


But he's serious this time!

Just kidding, Putin will call for ceasefire publicly but will also continue to support the "rebels" secretly so when the time comes he could say "See? I have no control over them guys, why are you all pointing fingers at me?"
 
2014-07-18 08:22:34 PM  

stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.


4.bp.blogspot.com

"I've had it with these monkeyfightin' naked people on this Monday to Friday plane!"
 
2014-07-18 08:23:48 PM  

wildcardjack: janzee: Couldn't Putin just order it?

It's not in the Skymall catalogue, so I wouldn't know.


Heh.. [iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg]
 
2014-07-18 08:28:48 PM  

stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.


Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.

Honestly, don't be dumb.
 
2014-07-18 08:33:43 PM  
How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.
 
2014-07-18 08:35:08 PM  

traylor: RexTalionis: He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.

But he's serious this time!

Just kidding, Putin will call for ceasefire publicly but will also continue to support the "rebels" secretly so when the time comes he could say "See? I have no control over them guys, why are you all pointing fingers at me?"


..and yet Fark Conservatards keep supporting this asshole. It's beyond me.
 
2014-07-18 08:37:29 PM  

Kittypie070: stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.

Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.

Honestly, don't be dumb.


Seriously, I thought stonelotus was making a joke. It wasn't?

/It was funny though
 
2014-07-18 08:39:26 PM  

Prey4reign: How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.


Yes!  A more effective and ruthless Russian nouveau-tsar is just what the world needs!

Thanks, Obama!
 
2014-07-18 08:40:51 PM  

FormlessOne: ..and yet Fark Conservatards keep supporting this asshole. It's beyond me.


He's authoritarian.  He favors the rich.  He invades countries on a whim to advance his empire.  He tortures prisoners.  He has a compliant media that spins the news in his favor.  He uses bravado and propaganda in place of real leadership.  He never admits mistakes.  He hates Europe.  He hates Obama.

Why wouldn't they love him?
 
2014-07-18 08:42:46 PM  

Mentat: FormlessOne: ..and yet Fark Conservatards keep supporting this asshole. It's beyond me.

He's authoritarian.  He favors the rich.  He invades countries on a whim to advance his empire.  He tortures prisoners.  He has a compliant media that spins the news in his favor.  He uses bravado and propaganda in place of real leadership.  He never admits mistakes.  He hates Europe.  He hates Obama.

Why wouldn't they love him?


I hear he's got a life-time NRA membership, too
 
2014-07-18 08:44:11 PM  

Closed_Minded_Bastage: Kittypie070: stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.

Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.

Honestly, don't be dumb.


Seriously, I thought stonelotus was making a joke. It wasn't?

/It was funny though


Yeah, I smelled some joke on it, but joking about recently dead people is kinda tasteless.
 
2014-07-18 08:44:16 PM  

Kittypie070: Republicans praising the President of Russia

[i.imgur.com image 464x434]

Seriously, if Ron was still around and in his right mind that's what he just might be saying.


I'm pretty sure he'd be saying that no matter the state of his mind.
 
2014-07-18 08:46:23 PM  

RexTalionis: He's been calling a ceasefire for at least two months.

Only, his idea of a ceasefire is when the Ukrainian military doesn't shoot at the rebels, while the rebels re-arm with armaments and "volunteers" from Russia and continue shooting at the Ukrainian military. That's what happened when the last ceasefire was announced by Ukraine's Poroshenko. Separatists violated that "ceasefire" 120 times.


So, it's like the Israel/Hamas ceasefire, only a little farther north.
 
2014-07-18 08:54:16 PM  
i.imgbox.com
 
2014-07-18 08:59:16 PM  

traylor: zerkalo: Reaping the whirlwind

Funny thing is, Whirlwind (Wirbelwind) is also the name of a German anti-aircraft gun mounted on the Panzer IV chassis.


www.precision-panzer.moonfruit.com

Early day Anti Aircraft vehicle :)
 
2014-07-18 09:10:37 PM  

Kittypie070: Closed_Minded_Bastage: Kittypie070: stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.

Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.

Honestly, don't be dumb.

Seriously, I thought stonelotus was making a joke. It wasn't?

/It was funny though

Yeah, I smelled some joke on it, but joking about recently dead people is kinda tasteless.


That's a rather tender subject.
 
2014-07-18 09:23:31 PM  

Prey4reign: How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.


You know - if I were a Chechen Rebel, I might be thinking that right now would be an excellent time to come out of the box and make a mess or three.
 
2014-07-18 09:42:25 PM  

jso2897: Prey4reign: How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.

You know - if I were a Chechen Rebel, I might be thinking that right now would be an excellent time to come out of the box and make a mess or three.


I really enjoy listening to Putin go on about how Ukraine shouldn't use force against separatists within their borders. Remember, that one time, when he supported popular referendums in Chechnya, and when they voted for independence, he let them go peacefully into independence? Oh, right, no, he used force against separatists within his borders. HUGE amounts of force. Ah, hypocrisy.
 
2014-07-18 09:49:55 PM  
So a guy who was just yesterday using his propaganda network to claim the Ukrainians were actually trying to shoot down HIS plane, and hit this airliner instead, is responding to that alleged assassination attempt by asking for a cease fire? Dude's gotta get his messaging straight.
 
2014-07-18 09:55:42 PM  

Kittypie070: stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.

Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.


That excuse never worked for me.
 
2014-07-18 09:56:55 PM  
tinyarena: img.fark.net

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Does that say "Miss me yet?"
 
2014-07-18 09:59:08 PM  

uber humper: tinyarena: [img.fark.net image 77x358]

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Does that say "Miss me yet?"


Yes
 
2014-07-18 10:02:32 PM  

IgG4: Looks like someone just figured out they are losing and wants to preserve the status quo.


Aaaand we're done here.

He wants to stop while he still has territory in hand, to strengthen his bargaining position. He's seeing potential here for the Ukraine to even take back the Crimea. And then Russian prestige is well and truly farked.

As would be Putin.
 
2014-07-18 10:12:32 PM  

tinyarena:


I don't even need a translation to know what that says.

Miss me yet?
Da.
Da.
Da.

/uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
 
2014-07-18 10:14:41 PM  

WorldCitizen: jso2897: Prey4reign: How long will it be before Putin loses his support in Russia?  It's one thing to run a tyrannical, despotic regime with dreams of reestablishing the glory days of the Soviet Union.  But, if you show you can't suppress a nation of whackos like Chechnya and control his little Russian puppets in the Ukraine, you just might not be up to the job running the country.

You know - if I were a Chechen Rebel, I might be thinking that right now would be an excellent time to come out of the box and make a mess or three.

I really enjoy listening to Putin go on about how Ukraine shouldn't use force against separatists within their borders. Remember, that one time, when he supported popular referendums in Chechnya, and when they voted for independence, he let them go peacefully into independence? Oh, right, no, he used force against separatists within his borders. HUGE amounts of force. Ah, hypocrisy.


Listening to Putin's speeches is a lot like watching Fox News, in that respect.
 
2014-07-18 10:15:43 PM  

brimed03: IgG4: Looks like someone just figured out they are losing and wants to preserve the status quo.

Aaaand we're done here.

He wants to stop while he still has territory in hand, to strengthen his bargaining position. He's seeing potential here for the Ukraine to even take back the Crimea. And then Russian prestige is well and truly farked.

As would be Putin.


It could be the much needed excuse to give up and save face.
 
2014-07-18 10:19:37 PM  
Will Putin get his own show on FOX when he gives up running Russia?
 
2014-07-18 10:24:26 PM  

brimed03: tinyarena:

Da.
Da.
Da.

/uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh

Ich liebe dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht
 
2014-07-18 10:27:03 PM  

Bermuda59: Will Putin get his own show on FOX when he gives up running Russia?


I can't wait to see that.

And then loudly remind my Republitownies DAILY that Saint Ronaldus Magnus once named the Russians the EVIL EMPIRE after KAL007 was shot down.

I do not know how the hell the tea party has forgotten this.
 
2014-07-18 10:27:28 PM  
Whatever happened to Grahor? I'm curious as to what his brand of pro-russian misinformation says about this.
 
2014-07-18 10:29:00 PM  
I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country.
 
2014-07-18 10:29:28 PM  

Kittypie070: stonelotus: kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.

Aerodynamic forces and depressurization airflow.

Honestly, don't be dumb.


It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly, even though it makes going through security easier. Most plane crashes are actually survivable by most passengers, but often times either due to depressurization or the force of an impact, people's shoes fly off. If you survive a crash, you're going to probably have to climb over some sharp metal and possibly fire, and that's not much fun if you're barefoot.

THE MORE YOU KNOW~*
 
2014-07-18 10:32:10 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly


[citation needed]
 
2014-07-18 10:32:45 PM  
Hey guys, I am lost. Are there three fronts to this Ukrainian thing (Russians, rebels, Ukrainian gov't)?
/I like apostrophes.
 
2014-07-18 10:32:57 PM  

Kittypie070: And then loudly remind my Republitownies DAILY that Saint Ronaldus Magnus once named the Russians the EVIL EMPIRE after KAL007 was shot down.


He might also remind Republicans of this quote from when the Ruskies shot down the Korean Air flight in 1983:

"We've got to protect against overreaction. Vengeance isn't the name of the game." -- Ronald Reagan

He was being criticized at the time for not doing enough and for looking weak. And that was regarding a flight that originated from US soil, unlike the crash in Ukraine. A sober reminder of a time when Republicans weren't all pants-on-head retarded @ssholes like every one of them is now.
 
2014-07-18 10:36:12 PM  

stonelotus: Rapmaster2000: "While his stance as a defender of traditional values has drawn the mockery of Western media and cultural elites, Putin is not wrong in saying that he can speak for much of mankind."  -Pat Buchanan

GRABOVO, Ukraine - Incongruously, given that the plane fell from more than 30,000 feet, many of the bodies strewn about in the smoldering wreckage of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 were largely intact. A woman in a black sweater lay on her back, blood streaming from her face, her left arm raised as if signaling someone. Another victim, naked except for a black bra, lay on the field, her gray hair mixing with the green grass, one leg broken and her body torn.

"There was a howling noise and everything started to rattle. Then objects started falling out of the sky," the 65-year-old pensioner said in front of her grey-brick home.
"And then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken," she said, showing the gaping hole made by the body when it came through the ceiling of the kitchen in an extension to the house.
The dead woman's naked body was still lying inside the house, next to a bed.

Great work, Pat.  I get it that you hate Obozo, but praising what was clearly a bad man was always going to end badly for you.

kind of makes you wonder why so many naked people were on that plane.


Makes me wonder if the woman has a bed in her kitchen, or if she dragged the victim into another room so she could finish the borscht.
 
2014-07-18 10:36:52 PM  

DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]


I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."
 
2014-07-18 10:37:24 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Kittypie070: And then loudly remind my Republitownies DAILY that Saint Ronaldus Magnus once named the Russians the EVIL EMPIRE after KAL007 was shot down.

He might also remind Republicans of this quote from when the Ruskies shot down the Korean Air flight in 1983:

"We've got to protect against overreaction. Vengeance isn't the name of the game." -- Ronald Reagan

He was being criticized at the time for not doing enough and for looking weak. And that was regarding a flight that originated from US soil, unlike the crash in Ukraine. A sober reminder of a time when Republicans weren't all pants-on-head retarded @ssholes like every one of them is now.


Go back to the politics tab, scumbag.
 
2014-07-18 10:41:16 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]

I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."


Good find. I waded through 50 links to articles recommending the opposite and gave up.
 
2014-07-18 10:43:47 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]

I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."


If you land in Albuquerque, you don't want to have shoes with laces, as someone in the South Valley will steal them from you so they can strangle their meth dealer's chihuahua/pit bull mix with them.
 
2014-07-18 10:48:29 PM  
At this point, Putin is going to be so unpopular outside of Russia that he''ll need an army to protect himself while traveling.
 
2014-07-18 10:51:02 PM  

DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]

I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."

Good find. I waded through 50 links to articles recommending the opposite and gave up.


Yeah, most travel advice people are only thinking about the TSA lines. I wore the same slip-on shoes while flying for a while before I heard the advice about safety. Now I'd rather take an extra 60 seconds going through security than die because I couldn't climb out of a crashed airplane fast enough, or help other people.
 
2014-07-18 10:51:26 PM  

Animatronik: At this point, Putin is going to be so unpopular outside of Russia that he''ll need an army to protect himself while traveling.


I was very suprised seeing him shake Angela Merkel's just a few seconds after Germany's win at the World Cup. TV only showed it for a quarter second, I had to go back frame by frame to confirm.  I guess they herd all the politicos together to make security (and targeting) easier.
 
2014-07-18 10:53:46 PM  

rooftop235: Hey guys, I am lost. Are there three fronts to this Ukrainian thing (Russians, rebels, Ukrainian gov't)?
/I like apostrophes.


Four fronts if you count the vampires.
 
2014-07-18 10:55:37 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: shower_in_my_socks: It's one reason they tell you not to wear slip-on shoes when you fly

[citation needed]

I've known this for a while, but here's one article making the same recommendation:

http://www.travelersguide360.com/index.php/how-to-survive-an-airplan e- crash-3-17241/

"One unfortunate by-product of today's stepped up airport security measures is that more and more passengers are choosing to wear easily removable, slip-on shoes, sandals, flip flops and other flimsy, open toed shoes on flights, perhaps exchanging safety for convenience. In event of a crash, your shoes may be the most important item of clothing that you are wearing. Wear sturdy shoes with leather soles. Even sneakers that are made with synthetic fabrics may not fare well when you are fleeing from a burning aircraft as synthetics tend to melt and adhere to the wearer's skin. High heeled shoes should also not be worn while flying. Should you find yourself on a stricken jet coming in for a hard landing in Albuquerque, you'll wish you'd opted for the hiking boots instead of the stilettos."

Good find. I waded through 50 links to articles recommending the opposite and gave up.

Yeah, most travel advice people are only thinking about the TSA lines. I wore the same slip-on shoes while flying for a while before I heard the advice about safety. Now I'd rather take an extra 60 seconds going through security than die because I couldn't climb out of a crashed airplane fast enough, or help other people.


You would increase your statistical livelihood more by wearing a helmet every time you get in a car.
 
2014-07-18 11:00:18 PM  

uber humper: Go back to the politics tab, scumbag.


specifically who might you be addressing?
 
2014-07-18 11:01:20 PM  

DoctorCal: You would increase your statistical livelihood more by wearing a helmet every time you get in a car.


I would increase it even more by never leaving my house. Wearing lace-up shoes on a plane the few times that I fly per year is much more practical than wearing a helmet every single day that I drive my car.
 
2014-07-18 11:02:04 PM  

Kittypie070: uber humper: Go back to the politics tab, scumbag.

specifically who might you be addressing?


shower_in_my_socks. He's a little too polarized for normal society.
 
2014-07-18 11:03:51 PM  

jake_lex: Kumana Wanalaia: jake_lex: "Putin is playing chess, and I think we are playing marbles - and I don't think it's even close...They've been running circles around us."

--Rep, Mike Rogers, (R-IN), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, on Fox News Sunday, March 2, 2014

Sure... that's why Putin is getting weaker and weaker while the US position strengthens.

Haters gonna hate.

It was just surreal around that time seeing Republicans praising the President of Russia -- of  Russia!-- over the President of the United States.

but even at the time, a serious analysis of the situation should have shown anyone that Putin had made a serious mistake, and whatever short-term gain he got by taking Crimea is far outweighed by the long-term mess he has gotten Russia into.


This is what Democrats actually believe.

The reality is that Putin has never been more popular inside of Russia and he hardly cares what you or Obama think.
 
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