Rwa2play: They know they did it and want the Russians to cover their asses.
Target Builder: Well, Russia has more sophisticated data analysis available to them than Ukraine, so they're probably more qualified to analyze modify the black box.
BitwiseShift: If the pilots were speaking Malay, the Russian's might need a friendly translators.
Target Builder: Well, Russia has more sophisticated data analysis available to them than Ukraine, so they're probably more qualified to analyze the black box.
SevenT: Putin already knows the accepted White House strategy in cases like this.... "The data is missing, we had a hard drive crash. We tried to recover it, but it was unrecoverable."
Random Anonymous Blackmail: I really don't think they are going to get much from it more than standard chatter and then a large explosion sound. Maybe a mayday we have been hit.
Gunny Highway: BitwiseShift: If the pilots were speaking Malay, the Russian's might need a friendly translators.I bet there is someone in Russia who can help out.
Quoting the Convention on International Civil Aviation:
Article 26 Investigation of accidentsIn the event of an accident to an aircraft of a contracting State occurring in the territory of another contracting State, and involving death or serious injury, or indicating serious technical defect in the aircraft or air navigation facilities, the State in which the accident occurs will institute an inquiry into the circumstances of the accident, in accordance, so far as its laws permit, with the procedure which may be recommended by the International Civil Aviation Organization. The State in which the aircraft is registered shall be given the opportunity to appoint observers to be present at the inquiry and the State holding the inquiry shall communicate the report and findings in the matter to that State.
MBA Whore: CNN just changed it. Now it states 298. I got a screenshot though.Isn't there some hidden secret internet cache where these things can live forever?
iheartscotch: You know; when one group starts looking Voldemort-level guilty I start getting suspicious. It was probably the CIA; or something..../ ++++CARRIER LOST++++
give me doughnuts: I'm sure it's all perfectly above-board.There won't be any reason to be suspicious when the all the voices on the cockpit voice-recorder have Muscovite accents. I'm sure that is quite among Malaysian airline pilots.
Chris Ween: The plane's black box won't tell us about the missile. What we need is the missile's black box.
BeerBear: Chris Ween: The plane's black box won't tell us about the missile. What we need is the missile's black box.do they have black boxes?
ruta: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I really don't think they are going to get much from it more than standard chatter and then a large explosion sound. Maybe a mayday we have been hit.I've heard there are conflicting reports about the black box(es) being removed too. Apparently at one point the rebels said they had retrieved "10 of 12 recording devices" to which everyone else said "Um, there are, at most, two". I think one of two (or both) things might be going on: 1) the rebels don't have a farking clue what the "black box" is (AFAIK it's not black, for starters) and can't read the English "Flight Recorder" painted on the side, and/or 2) they did recover them and whichever Russian official they contacted said, "Put them back, you farksticks, there won't be anything on there that can implicate you, but taking them makes you look more guilty". (I'm picturing something like a scene from Burn After Reading).Malaysia has reported that they got no "mayday" call (for whatever that's worth, given Malaysia's track record on this kind of thing).
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