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2014-07-18 02:08:51 PM
i.huffpost.com
 
2014-07-18 02:39:35 PM
And he's wearing shoes, too! How dare this toothless old man be only mostly destitute rather than entirely destitute! Fortunately, the hot blonde reporter is there to shame him with her $400 haircut.
 
2014-07-18 02:43:31 PM
Yeah, a cheap flip phone. BFD

Mine cost me around $20.
 
2014-07-18 02:48:19 PM

Theaetetus: And he's wearing shoes, too! How dare this toothless old man be only mostly destitute rather than entirely destitute! Fortunately, the hot blonde reporter is there to shame him with her $400 haircut.


Incidentally, $400 is how much he's made in a single day asking for handouts...
 
2014-07-18 02:57:14 PM

Mikey1969: Incidentally, $400 is how much he's made in a single day asking for handouts...


Why do you give him money?
 
2014-07-18 03:00:18 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [i.huffpost.com image 850x477]


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2014-07-18 03:03:24 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Incidentally, $400 is how much he's made in a single day asking for handouts...

Why do you give him money?


Because he does that thing like like so much. Plus, he knows how to cup the balls correctly.

What about you? Why do YOU give him money?
 
2014-07-18 03:05:53 PM
Yes, it's one of the less derpy things that got passed while george w. bush was in charge.
 
2014-07-18 03:09:56 PM

Mikey1969: Why do YOU give him money?


I don't. Here are some of my snappy comebacks:

"Do I look like I'm passing out money?"
"I don't owe you anything"
"Get in line behind my exwife"
"Take a bath you smelly hippy"
 
2014-07-18 03:14:36 PM
If you write something, anything, on a piece of cardboard and stand in traffic, people will just give you some money out of guilt.
 
2014-07-18 03:22:29 PM
Not a problem, if he wants to improve his situation and be able to get financial assistance, he is going to need to be able to take a call from a case worker.
 
2014-07-18 03:30:39 PM
Aren't there some agencies that provide simple cell phones to the homeless free of charge?
 
2014-07-18 03:34:14 PM
Read the headline and thought, "I'll bet it's a really cheap-ass flip-phone he pulls out".

They're talking as though he drove away in a Bentley.

It's a farking GO PHONE! You can pick one up at Best Buy for 20 bucks!

That's less than the cost to print out that box of douche-y flyers.
 
2014-07-18 03:49:55 PM
buy them a chocolate bar, a muffin or some bananas and hand it to them -  if they accept and thank you then most likely they are truly homeless and glad to have any support.

If they dont want the handout only cash then most likely they want to get booze, drugs, or a new flat screen for their apartment paid for by welfare.
/or they may be full

I have given out change but i make a judgement call.

// lot of folks have mental issues and they truly are unemployable - any kids or someone who looks like they could do with a day of labour get farkall from me.
 
2014-07-18 03:53:27 PM
It's 2014. Why do we still treat plain old cell phones as a luxury?
 
2014-07-18 03:53:41 PM

sedric: any kids or someone who looks like they could do with a day of labour get farkall from me.


You know what kids or people who could do a day of labour do if they're not getting handouts? Rob your house. A couple quarters is a cheap insurance policy that will keep them on the streets, out of trouble.
 
2014-07-18 03:55:23 PM

Arkanaut: It's 2014. Why do we still treat plain old cell phones as a luxury?


Could be worse. We could be shaming poor people for not living in unelectrified shacks in the wo-
cloudfront.mediamatters.org
... never mind.
 
2014-07-18 03:57:41 PM

Theaetetus: sedric: any kids or someone who looks like they could do with a day of labour get farkall from me.

You know what kids or people who could do a day of labour do if they're not getting handouts? Rob your house. A couple quarters is a cheap insurance policy that will keep them on the streets, out of trouble.


true but i live waaaay outside town -  i only see the destitute when im travelling in the city to work. Plus Mrs Sedric is home.
 
2014-07-18 03:58:56 PM

sedric: Theaetetus: sedric: any kids or someone who looks like they could do with a day of labour get farkall from me.

You know what kids or people who could do a day of labour do if they're not getting handouts? Rob your house. A couple quarters is a cheap insurance policy that will keep them on the streets, out of trouble.

true but i live waaaay outside town -  i only see the destitute when im travelling in the city to work.


My change pays for bus fare to get them to your community to commit robberies. So there. :P
 
2014-07-18 04:01:51 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Why do YOU give him money?

I don't. Here are some of my snappy comebacks:

"Do I look like I'm passing out money?"
"I don't owe you anything"
"Get in line behind my exwife"
"Take a bath you smelly hippy"


I told a homeless guy once that I had used all of my spare change to pay my spare rent... That confused the holy fark out of him.

The best one was when I told one guy who had used the same story on me for a year straight(I lived and worked in downtown Phoenix for a year and a half, so saw the same people every couple of days). Guy had this story about how he wasn't begging for money or anything, but he needed $5 for a can of fix a flat, and his car was around the corner, his 10-year old daughter was there, and all they needed to do was get to LA, etc... I told him that once he got the can of fix a flat, he should probably stop driving around downtown Phoenix because it was playing holy hell on his tires, and that by my estimate, he had had a flat tire every day for about a year. He looked at me, couldn't say a word, and left the bar. Bartender bought me a free beer for that one.
 
2014-07-18 04:06:42 PM
I know a guy who makes about $150 a day panhandling.
 
2014-07-18 04:12:04 PM
<csb on>
had travelled down  to NYC one time and and still had some canadian money, was walking along and gave a homeless guy a handful of change, 1.30 or whatever was in my pocket.. got about 6 steps away when he jumped up yelling mister.. hey mister.. so i stopped and he came over to me and handed me a coin i had just given him and said 'you gave me a canadian quarter'

I looked at him, thanked him and put it back in my pocket and kept walking.

not sure if he thought i would exchange, or if he didnt want the hassle of exchanging

<csb over>
 
2014-07-18 04:27:53 PM

Mikey1969: The best one was when I told...


I was in a Starbucks in Copley when a bum walked in loudly demanding money from people saying that he just needed train fair. He pretended to be emotionally hurt by my rejection. The pretty hippy girl in front of me gave me a dirty look as she took a five out of her purse and gave it to him. At the time five dollars was plenty to get on the train. Later as I was leaving, I saw the same guy down the street saying the same thing to people.

Surely, you've seen this:  http://youtu.be/krg5r6n0kr4
 
Xai
2014-07-18 04:44:00 PM
meh it's your money. If you want to give it to a guy in the street, no matter what he claims to be, it's your choice. If you want to help people, give to charities that help homeless.
 
2014-07-18 04:56:00 PM
had a guy sitting on the corner holding an empty 1-gal plastic gas can.  I pulled over and pointed across the street telling him where the nearest gas station was.  No appreciation for my help whatsoever.
 
2014-07-18 05:23:35 PM
The monthly cost of that phone is probably 1/10th the cost of a subsitance-level diet, submitter.

Not that he's not scamming passersby, just that ownership of a few cheap industrial products doesn't mean he isn't living below the poverty-line.
 
2014-07-18 05:26:06 PM
A couple of my younger homeless friends have smart phones.  Homeless doesn't always mean you don't have any money.  Some have the 'safe link' free gov't phones.  Those are generally tied to an address, so it's harder for a homeless person to get one.

I was headed to an interagency homeless outreach meeting.  A guy asked for change, I tried to get him to see a social worker, "Nah that's ok.  I want to get a real job, but the money begging is too good."

Another guy was working the entrance to a plaza.  "Hey, I'm headed to the City Mission.  Want a ride?"  "NO! NO!, I got a place."

The young guy's call it 'Flying a sign.'

Give if you want (I give hygiene items and blankets, etc...)  If a guy want's to live differently, that's his business.  Getting housed brings a level of safety that you can't get if you're living outdoors.

Years ago a guy had a "will work for food" sign.  My boss tried to give him a job.
"No, I just need some food."
"We'll give you a job and feed you."
"No, I just need some food..."
This went on until the guy ran to his car and drove off.
 
2014-07-18 05:31:22 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: The best one was when I told...

I was in a Starbucks in Copley when a bum walked in loudly demanding money from people saying that he just needed train fair. He pretended to be emotionally hurt by my rejection. The pretty hippy girl in front of me gave me a dirty look as she took a five out of her purse and gave it to him. At the time five dollars was plenty to get on the train. Later as I was leaving, I saw the same guy down the street saying the same thing to people.

Surely, you've seen this:  http://youtu.be/krg5r6n0kr4


No, I hadn't seen that one yet, but that's right here in Salt Lake. New law went into effect this year that bans it from on ramps and off ramps, IIRC. The best part of the video was the end, where they pointed out that the worst thing is the damage it does to people who legitimately need help. As a result of these laws, the panhandlers have moved to sidewalks just a ways away from where they previously were. I'd love to see the news team do a followup if they can find this girl.

My friend has a simple requirement. He'll give 'em a buck or two, but they have to do something for it. They always look at him weird, of course, but he tells them he doesn't care what they do. Sing a song, do a dance, play music on their guitar, tell him a joke, even if it sucks, just do something for the money they're asking him for. Of course, then you had the guy that sat outside of Diamondbacks games and played America, The Beautiful on his sax. Over and over. And over. I mean, it's like the only song he knew, and since nobody hangs out for more than 30 seconds or so, you had to go to as many games as we did to realize he only knew the one song. But hey, at least he was performing a service for the money exchanged.
 
2014-07-18 05:59:30 PM

Mikey1969: He'll give 'em a buck or two, but they have to do something for it.


In the words of the great Pocket Ninja:


Pocket Ninja: The last time a homeless person asked me for money, I pulled out a $20 bill from my pocket and held it out to him but then, just as he was reaching for it, I closed my fist around the money and stepped closer to him, close enough that I was standing in his stench and could see the gnarled swirls of yellow on his teeth. "Do you really want this money?" I asked him. And he nodded. And I said to him, "Tell me what you've done to earn this money." And he said he was hungry. And I said, "I was hungry, too. But I worked and made money and bought my own food." And he started to weep these sobbing homeless tears. And I said, "Why are you weeping?" And he said, "I feel so ashamed."

Then a trash truck came up the street, and I flagged it down and they stopped and I took down from it a broom. And I gave this broom to the homeless man, and I said unto him, "You feel ashamed not because you are hungry, but because you ask for money but do not work. Once you work for your money, your shame will pass. Go now. Sweep this street from start to finish. When your job is done, come to me and I shall pay you."

And for two hours he swept, and as he swept his eyes became alight and his face broke into smile. And a crowd assembled to watch him and cheer him on. And when he was finished I gave him the $20 and I returned the broom to the trash men and he was jubilant. "I feel no more shame," he said. "And I shall now eat the fruit of my own rewards!"

It's such a great feeling to make a difference. That's why I don't just give money to homeless people. I want to inspire them to something more. Last I heard, this homeless guy had started his own trash company and employed 643 formerly homeless people. Stories like that keep me warm at night.


Joking aside, I don't give them money. Whatever they think they can offer in "exchange" for money isn't worthwhile because I'm not looking to pass out money but they are demanding it. It's kind of like unsolicited telemarketing without the exchange of goods. Even if  a telemarketer is selling something that I want or need -I won't see the value because I don't agree to transactions that are unsolicited, Similarly, I don't accept unsolicited begging from strangers.

 .
 
2014-07-18 06:52:35 PM

Mikey1969: Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Why do YOU give him money?

I don't. Here are some of my snappy comebacks:

"Do I look like I'm passing out money?"
"I don't owe you anything"
"Get in line behind my exwife"
"Take a bath you smelly hippy"

I told a homeless guy once that I had used all of my spare change to pay my spare rent... That confused the holy fark out of him.

The best one was when I told one guy who had used the same story on me for a year straight(I lived and worked in downtown Phoenix for a year and a half, so saw the same people every couple of days). Guy had this story about how he wasn't begging for money or anything, but he needed $5 for a can of fix a flat, and his car was around the corner, his 10-year old daughter was there, and all they needed to do was get to LA, etc... I told him that once he got the can of fix a flat, he should probably stop driving around downtown Phoenix because it was playing holy hell on his tires, and that by my estimate, he had had a flat tire every day for about a year. He looked at me, couldn't say a word, and left the bar. Bartender bought me a free beer for that one.


Had something similar happen to me repeatedly at the stop where I caught the bus to work. Guy was a drug user & always had open sores on his arms that he'd wrap up in gauze bandages. He'd walk up to you and pull back the bandages to show you the sores & then go on a lengthy song & dance about how he needed money to go into rehab, blah, blah, blah. And because the drugs so addled his brain he wouldn't remember approaching you asking for money. Once he asked me 3 times in a 10 minute period for money though I'd already refused him and told him about a few places where he could get free help.

Also caught him more than once deliberately picking at the sores so they'd bleed & make him appear more pitiful.
 
2014-07-18 06:54:13 PM
He had to take it, it was the 4th round of telephone tag with his broker.
 
2014-07-18 08:16:14 PM
He is Level 3 support, and had to tell someone to try rebooting their computer.
 
2014-07-18 09:11:34 PM
If he's so poor he has to resort to begging to survive, how is he able to afford a cell phone?  It's because of people like him is why I do not give to beggars.  I don't know if they're for real or just lazy.
 
2014-07-18 09:17:50 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: He'll give 'em a buck or two, but they have to do something for it.

In the words of the great Pocket Ninja:


Pocket Ninja: The last time a homeless person asked me for money, I pulled out a $20 bill from my pocket and held it out to him but then, just as he was reaching for it, I closed my fist around the money and stepped closer to him, close enough that I was standing in his stench and could see the gnarled swirls of yellow on his teeth. "Do you really want this money?" I asked him. And he nodded. And I said to him, "Tell me what you've done to earn this money." And he said he was hungry. And I said, "I was hungry, too. But I worked and made money and bought my own food." And he started to weep these sobbing homeless tears. And I said, "Why are you weeping?" And he said, "I feel so ashamed."

Then a trash truck came up the street, and I flagged it down and they stopped and I took down from it a broom. And I gave this broom to the homeless man, and I said unto him, "You feel ashamed not because you are hungry, but because you ask for money but do not work. Once you work for your money, your shame will pass. Go now. Sweep this street from start to finish. When your job is done, come to me and I shall pay you."

And for two hours he swept, and as he swept his eyes became alight and his face broke into smile. And a crowd assembled to watch him and cheer him on. And when he was finished I gave him the $20 and I returned the broom to the trash men and he was jubilant. "I feel no more shame," he said. "And I shall now eat the fruit of my own rewards!"

It's such a great feeling to make a difference. That's why I don't just give money to homeless people. I want to inspire them to something more. Last I heard, this homeless guy had started his own trash company and employed 643 formerly homeless people. Stories like that keep me warm at night.

Joking aside, I don't give them money. Whatever they think they can offer in "exchange" for money isn't worthwhile because I'm not looking to pass out money but they are demanding it. It's kind of like unsolicited telemarketing without the exchange of goods. Even if  a telemarketer is selling something that I want or need -I won't see the value because I don't agree to transactions that are unsolicited, Similarly, I don't accept unsolicited begging from strangers.

 .


God, Pocket never fails to entertain... The different levels of subtlety are impressive. Sometimes he slaps you right upside the head with the comedy, other times you have to take a step back and look at his post like you would a fine piece of art. You have to see the 31st sailboat to get the joke...

It's really one of the best things on Fark...
 
2014-07-18 09:18:52 PM

minoridiot: He is Level 3 support, and had to tell someone to try rebooting their computer.


That's some seriously funny shiat right there.
 
2014-07-18 10:56:10 PM
I live near Boston and I go up to Montreal a couple times a year. Can't walk down ST Catherine's street without getting hit up by at least 10 pan handlers, every single time I go. Even if it is 10 below out and middle of the winter. Almost always they are young and healthy looking.

I have had cute chicks ask me for cash on the street at 3am.

A stripper once told me they make almost as much as she does, which I admittedly found hard to believe.

Great city but wow.
 
2014-07-19 05:32:11 AM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-07-19 08:54:02 AM
Dang, am I late to the thread where we one up each other with stories about how we're judgemental douchebags to other human beings?
 
2014-07-19 10:18:37 AM

Tony_Pepperoni: I know a guy who makes about $150 a day panhandling.


You know a guy....?

i62.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-19 12:10:49 PM
Free market, baby!
 
2014-07-19 07:11:25 PM

Mikey1969: Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Why do YOU give him money?

I don't. Here are some of my snappy comebacks:

"Do I look like I'm passing out money?"
"I don't owe you anything"
"Get in line behind my exwife"
"Take a bath you smelly hippy"

I told a homeless guy once that I had used all of my spare change to pay my spare rent... That confused the holy fark out of him.



That was mighty white of you.
 
2014-07-19 08:09:54 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mikey1969: Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Why do YOU give him money?

I don't. Here are some of my snappy comebacks:

"Do I look like I'm passing out money?"
"I don't owe you anything"
"Get in line behind my exwife"
"Take a bath you smelly hippy"

I told a homeless guy once that I had used all of my spare change to pay my spare rent... That confused the holy fark out of him.


That was mighty white of you.


Well, luckily for all involved, he was white as well, so it was a wash.
 
2014-07-20 02:10:06 AM
Why be mad at poor people for being poor? Oh, cuz they LAZY. Whatever.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/08/this-is-wh a t-happened-when-i-drove-my-mercedes-to-pick-up-food-stamps/
 
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