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(CNN)   Starbucks opens its first store in Colombia. Coffee bean farmers can now pay $5 for a cup of coffee made with the beans they were paid five cents a day to pick   (money.cnn.com) divider line 52
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2014-07-19 04:52:52 AM  
TRAVEL TRIPS!  Never ask a machete-wielding Latin American sharecropper why their peso low.
 
2014-07-19 06:11:06 AM  
Well, at least their coffee will actually be from Colombia this time, instead of Columbia, SC. My ex fiance (from Colombia) told me years ago that the coffee she's had there and at the grocery is definitely NOT from there, or at least definitely doesn't taste like it and is nowhere near as strong.
 
2014-07-19 06:18:18 AM  
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                          "Ah'll kick joo monkey ass all the way back to Columbia, meng."
 
2014-07-19 06:27:53 AM  

hillary: It's the end of the universe!


He was so much younger back then. And less flabby. And my god, his hair. And his waistline was nowhere near mine.

But he's still farkin' funny!
 
2014-07-19 06:31:35 AM  
www.wearysloth.com

"Coffee buying is becoming a dangerous business."
 
2014-07-19 06:32:16 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Well, at least their coffee will actually be from Colombia this time, instead of Columbia, SC. My ex fiance (from Colombia) told me years ago that the coffee she's had there and at the grocery is definitely NOT from there, or at least definitely doesn't taste like it and is nowhere near as strong.


Your fiancee was wrong.  The beans are just roasted differently here and most Americans do not brew it as strong.  Most Colombians do not know anything  about coffee other than it is a black liquid that comes in a cup.

In Colombia you can order a cup and and say "al lo americano" and it is US sized coffee cup with the coffee cut with hot water so it is easier for the US palate.  A typical Colombian coffee is about 2-3 ounces.

Colombia also has a copy of Starbucks called Juan Valdez that they tried to open in the states but lost a metric shiat ton of money.  It is pretty popular in Latin America and is priced as high if not higher than starbucks if you take local wages into account.

A fun fact is that Juan Valdez was created by a New York marketing firm and was played by a Cuban actor.

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2014-07-19 06:54:12 AM  
I've been to Colombia a bunch of times and have never been served anything except instant coffee.

I get subby's idea, but a "farmer" and a laborer paid to pick are not the same and the wages may be less than US, but they're not 5 cents a day.
 
2014-07-19 06:59:36 AM  
It's all over when Starbucks has a shop on each corner of the same intersection.
 
2014-07-19 07:01:06 AM  
Lesee, S. America - An economy based on stimulant substances.  N. America - An economy based on gambling.  I think we're losing the plot.
 
2014-07-19 07:10:34 AM  
Star Bucks' decaf kicks Dunkin' Donuts ass.
 
2014-07-19 07:27:48 AM  
By coincidence I was rewatching The Lego Movie last night (yes, it is still awesome), and during the opening montage one of the instructions from President Business that Emmett follows is to "drink overpriced coffee".

So I'm getting a brick out of this thread.
 
2014-07-19 07:29:10 AM  
In before "Starbucks tastes like burnt shiat" hipster snob comments!
 
2014-07-19 07:34:26 AM  

Whole Wheat: In before "Starbucks tastes like burnt shiat" hipster snob comments!


The best coffee I ever had was some bucce espresso from a little coffee / Cuban sandwich shop that has service window in front of a laundromat on White St. in Key West.  It has the same viscosity as motor oil and they sell it by the plastic shot glass.  I miss that coffee.
 
2014-07-19 07:37:39 AM  

theflatline: kling_klang_bed: Well, at least their coffee will actually be from Colombia this time, instead of Columbia, SC. My ex fiance (from Colombia) told me years ago that the coffee she's had there and at the grocery is definitely NOT from there, or at least definitely doesn't taste like it and is nowhere near as strong.

Your fiancee was wrong.  The beans are just roasted differently here and most Americans do not brew it as strong.  Most Colombians do not know anything  about coffee other than it is a black liquid that comes in a cup.

In Colombia you can order a cup and and say "al lo americano" and it is US sized coffee cup with the coffee cut with hot water so it is easier for the US palate.  A typical Colombian coffee is about 2-3 ounces.

Colombia also has a copy of Starbucks called Juan Valdez that they tried to open in the states but lost a metric shiat ton of money.  It is pretty popular in Latin America and is priced as high if not higher than starbucks if you take local wages into account.

A fun fact is that Juan Valdez was created by a New York marketing firm and was played by a Cuban actor.


Sounds like how much of Latin America drinks coffee

Never could understand how some foreigners like Starbucks coffee when they have superior coffee chains....like Second Cup in Canada and Costa Coffee in UK
 
2014-07-19 07:38:29 AM  
All in all, Starbucks ain't that bad.  If you have a decent machine and good beans, it's actually very difficult to screw up coffee.
 
2014-07-19 07:44:15 AM  
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......
 
2014-07-19 08:06:00 AM  

henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......


I once had an knew a guy from Guatemala who got packages from home that included Guatemalan coffee beans. That made some spectacular coffee.
 
2014-07-19 08:09:57 AM  

WanPhat: I've been to Colombia a bunch of times and have never been served anything except instant coffee.

I get subby's idea, but a "farmer" and a laborer paid to pick are not the same and the wages may be less than US, but they're not 5 cents a day.


Please don't let facts get in the way of a good headline.
 
2014-07-19 08:20:53 AM  

Mirandized: henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......

I once had an knew a guy from Guatemala who got packages from home that included Guatemalan coffee beans. That made some spectacular coffee.


Were the beans already roasted, or did he do it? Because that's likely the answer, not magic beans.
 
2014-07-19 08:24:18 AM  
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2014-07-19 08:39:43 AM  
I don't get people who stop for coffee every single day before going to work.  Then again, those seem to be the people always complaining they have no money.  I'm sitting here drinking my entire pot of Aldi coffee with french vanilla creamer I made in 5 minutes in my coffee maker for about 60 cents and tastes better than anything I've ever had from Starbucks or anywhere else.
 
2014-07-19 08:44:08 AM  

bunner: All in all, Starbucks ain't that bad.  If you have a decent machine and good beans, it's actually very difficult to screw up coffee.


The reasons they have such good profit margins and their beans taste burnt is because they buy cheap beans and then dark roast them to mask the bad flavor (the darker you roast a bean the less of its natural flavor you get)
 
2014-07-19 08:50:40 AM  

henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......


I only drink coffee grown from trees I planted the evening before I brew it..
 
2014-07-19 08:55:00 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Well, at least their coffee will actually be from Colombia this time, instead of Columbia, SC. My ex fiance (from Colombia) told me years ago that the coffee she's had there and at the grocery is definitely NOT from there, or at least definitely doesn't taste like it and is nowhere near as strong.


Their colombian blend is a sad thing, aye. Thin and full of nasty acid.

/instead of strong and full of nasty acid
//Sumatra ftw
 
2014-07-19 08:56:26 AM  

thornhill: bunner: All in all, Starbucks ain't that bad.  If you have a decent machine and good beans, it's actually very difficult to screw up coffee.

The reasons they have such good profit margins and their beans taste burnt is because they buy cheap beans and then dark roast them to mask the bad flavor (the darker you roast a bean the less of its natural flavor you get)


I was wondering about that unique smell.
 
2014-07-19 09:06:21 AM  
I drank a cup of Starbucks coffee once.
It sucked.
The End.
 
2014-07-19 09:08:18 AM  

henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......


The greatest trick Juan Valdez ever pulled was convincing the world shiatty coffee was drinkable.

Ever been to a Starbucks in Skokie, IL?
 
2014-07-19 09:11:32 AM  

oukewldave: I don't get people who stop for coffee every single day before going to work.  Then again, those seem to be the people always complaining they have no money.  I'm sitting here drinking my entire pot of Aldi coffee with french vanilla creamer I made in 5 minutes in my coffee maker for about 60 cents and tastes better than anything I've ever had from Starbucks or anywhere else.


Aldi actually has some good coffee. They have a few gourmet blends that are like $12/ pound anywhere else for $5/pound. And just as good.
 
2014-07-19 09:16:05 AM  

El Dudereno: Ever been to a Starbucks in Skokie, IL?


Yes. Why do you ask?
 
2014-07-19 09:23:46 AM  
I was in Colombia this spring on vacation.  The shops in Cartagena were selling Colombian whole-bean coffee for $25/pound  -- fark that.  After a few stores I stopped looking.

I'll just keep buying it at Costco for $7/pound.
 
2014-07-19 09:30:52 AM  

theflatline: In Colombia you can order a cup and and say "al lo americano" and it is US sized coffee cup with the coffee cut with hot water so it is easier for the US palate.


That's called an Americano and you can get one anywhere.
 
2014-07-19 09:57:10 AM  

theflatline: Colombia also has a copy of Starbucks called Juan Valdez that they tried to open in the states but lost a metric shiat ton of money. It is pretty popular in Latin America and is priced as high if not higher than starbucks if you take local wages into account.

A fun fact is that Juan Valdez was created by a New York marketing firm and was played by a Cuban actor.


Should I be outraged at American cultural imperialism here, or amused that the Colombians are beating us at our own game?
 
2014-07-19 11:26:23 AM  
Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.
 
2014-07-19 11:37:35 AM  
I've never been to Colombia but in Brazil they have really great coffee and they damn well knew it.  Cafes were everywhere and they always had brisk trade. Hell the cheap espresso from a crappy little airport lunch counter in Recife was 10 times better than the expensive espresso at a high end cafe in Newark.
 
2014-07-19 11:38:52 AM  

Mouser: theflatline: Colombia also has a copy of Starbucks called Juan Valdez that they tried to open in the states but lost a metric shiat ton of money. It is pretty popular in Latin America and is priced as high if not higher than starbucks if you take local wages into account.

A fun fact is that Juan Valdez was created by a New York marketing firm and was played by a Cuban actor.

Should I be outraged at American cultural imperialism here, or amused that the Colombians are beating us at our own game?


It is pretty hard for Colombians to innovate, they love copying shiat though.

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ww3.hdnux.com
 
2014-07-19 11:44:43 AM  

El Dudereno: henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......

The greatest trick Juan Valdez ever pulled was convincing the world shiatty coffee was drinkable.

Ever been to a Starbucks in Skokie, IL?


Here I thought everyone was going to miss the reference.
 
2014-07-19 12:03:07 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Well, at least their coffee will actually be from Colombia this time, instead of Columbia, SC. My ex fiance (from Colombia) told me years ago that the coffee she's had there and at the grocery is definitely NOT from there, or at least definitely doesn't taste like it and is nowhere near as strong.


The brand she gets might be the sort of company that gets away with including only a small percentage of Colombian beans, but still claiming their product is Colombian coffee.

They might be required to call it a "blend" on the label to avoid false advertising. A few years ago, coffee growers in Hawaii sued the company Safeway (based in CA) for selling beans labeled as Kona that contained only a small percentage of their beans. As a part of the settlement, Safeway had to start using a minimum of 10% of the beans in order to call their product a Kona blend.
 
2014-07-19 12:13:32 PM  

hitmanric: El Dudereno: henryhill: Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shiat, but hey, I'm on Fark......

The greatest trick Juan Valdez ever pulled was convincing the world shiatty coffee was drinkable.

Ever been to a Starbucks in Skokie, IL?

Here I thought everyone was going to miss the reference.


Sure seemed that way for a few posts...
 
2014-07-19 12:20:16 PM  

theflatline: Colombia also has a copy of Starbucks called Juan Valdez that they tried to open in the states but lost a metric shiat ton of money.  It is pretty popular in Latin America and is priced as high if not higher than starbucks if you take local wages into account.


They had a couple of those cafes in DC for while, but I think they are now closed.  I went to the Penn Quarter location once and had a coffee.  It was fine, nothing amazing.  Kind of like Starbucks.
 
2014-07-19 12:23:23 PM  
You try finding microbe free water in Columbia to make a latte and then decide if $5 isn't a delicious cup of coffee and the best medical care they ever had.
 
2014-07-19 01:53:11 PM  

itsaidwhat: You try finding microbe free water in Columbia to make a latte and then decide if $5 isn't a delicious cup of coffee and the best medical care they ever had.


Do you mean "Colombia", the country?  If so, they have their share of bad water, but 94% of the people, and 99% in urban areas have an improved water source.  Bogota faced huge challenges with the influx of people, but they've done an amazing job supplying water and have received international recognition and awards for their water system.  Like most of the world, they don't completely trust the tap water, so most homes and businesses have their own disinfection system.

People from around central and south America go to Colombia for surgery and specialists; they have some great medical care.

It's almost as if you don't know anything about it and are relying on stereotypes of places that have poor people.
 
2014-07-19 02:52:07 PM  

Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.


In all seriousness, you need to remember what the coffee market was like 20 years ago: it was the those big vats of Folgers and Maxwell house you bought at e supermarket and made with your Mr. Coffee, or two hour old drip at 7-11. There really weren't many places outside of major cities where you could easily find espresso, let alone something made from freshly grinder beans.

Today, a lot of Starbucks drinkers just don't know better because often they don't have access to better. But roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown are expanding aggressively -- there is finally demand for high quality beans.

And as for why people don't make their own coffee -- pure laziness. Same reason why fast food and prepared foods are so hugely popular. If people cannot take 15 minutes to make their own lunch, why would anyone think that they'd spend 5 minutes making coffee?
 
2014-07-19 04:04:40 PM  

WanPhat: itsaidwhat: You try finding microbe free water in Columbia to make a latte and then decide if $5 isn't a delicious cup of coffee and the best medical care they ever had.

Do you mean "Colombia", the country?  If so, they have their share of bad water, but 94% of the people, and 99% in urban areas have an improved water source.  Bogota faced huge challenges with the influx of people, but they've done an amazing job supplying water and have received international recognition and awards for their water system.  Like most of the world, they don't completely trust the tap water, so most homes and businesses have their own disinfection system.

People from around central and south America go to Colombia for surgery and specialists; they have some great medical care.

It's almost as if you don't know anything about it and are relying on stereotypes of places that have poor people.


No, Columbia - the ill fated American Space Shuttle. It's almost like you know nothing about astronauts and rocket science and are just relying on your knowledge of impoverished drug smuggling countries to evaluate everything!

/take a farknfly
/lighten up Carmen Sandiego
 
2014-07-19 06:02:46 PM  

thornhill: Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.

In all seriousness, you need to remember what the coffee market was like 20 years ago: it was the those big vats of Folgers and Maxwell house you bought at e supermarket and made with your Mr. Coffee, or two hour old drip at 7-11. There really weren't many places outside of major cities where you could easily find espresso, let alone something made from freshly grinder beans.

Today, a lot of Starbucks drinkers just don't know better because often they don't have access to better. But roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown are expanding aggressively -- there is finally demand for high quality beans.

And as for why people don't make their own coffee -- pure laziness. Same reason why fast food and prepared foods are so hugely popular. If people cannot take 15 minutes to make their own lunch, why would anyone think that they'd spend 5 minutes making coffee?


Back then, you just had to know where to go. 20 years ago, Starbucks already had locations in many urban areas; it was only just after the mid 90s that they started to go crazy and flood the market. Before then, at least certain parts of the country had chains, like Peet's in northern CA or The Coffee Bean in southern CA.
 
2014-07-19 06:33:10 PM  

cyberspacedout: thornhill: Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.

In all seriousness, you need to remember what the coffee market was like 20 years ago: it was the those big vats of Folgers and Maxwell house you bought at e supermarket and made with your Mr. Coffee, or two hour old drip at 7-11. There really weren't many places outside of major cities where you could easily find espresso, let alone something made from freshly grinder beans.

Today, a lot of Starbucks drinkers just don't know better because often they don't have access to better. But roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown are expanding aggressively -- there is finally demand for high quality beans.

And as for why people don't make their own coffee -- pure laziness. Same reason why fast food and prepared foods are so hugely popular. If people cannot take 15 minutes to make their own lunch, why would anyone think that they'd spend 5 minutes making coffee?

Back then, you just had to know where to go. 20 years ago, Starbucks already had locations in many urban areas; it was only just after the mid 90s that they started to go crazy and flood the market. Before then, at least certain parts of the country had chains, like Peet's in northern CA or The Coffee Bean in southern CA.


In a lot of cities there was simply nothing then -- and even today there's still not much in a lot of places.

I lived in downtown Philadelphia in the '80s and '90s, and for a while, Starbucks was pretty much the best you could do outside of a restaurant and a couple of cafes (and during that period cafes that did know how to pull a shot would often go out of business within a few years).

Coffee to most people simply mean the $0.50/cup slop that WAWA sold.

I give credit to Starbucks for helping to get people ok with the idea of spending several dollars for a cup of coffee.

Because they're a publicly traded company I'm not surprised that they choose to buy the cheapest beans and then roast the hell out of them to mask the bad flavor so that they can maximize profits.

And given the fact that Folgers still remains far and away the most popular coffee, roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown will always remain boutiques.
 
2014-07-19 08:05:36 PM  

thornhill: Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.

In all seriousness, you need to remember what the coffee market was like 20 years ago: it was the those big vats of Folgers and Maxwell house you bought at e supermarket and made with your Mr. Coffee, or two hour old drip at 7-11. There really weren't many places outside of major cities where you could easily find espresso, let alone something made from freshly grinder beans.

Today, a lot of Starbucks drinkers just don't know better because often they don't have access to better. But roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown are expanding aggressively -- there is finally demand for high quality beans.

And as for why people don't make their own coffee -- pure laziness. Same reason why fast food and prepared foods are so hugely popular. If people cannot take 15 minutes to make their own lunch, why would anyone think that they'd spend 5 minutes making coffee?


Suppose you're right, but even on my lazy days i stop at a gas station for some rather delicious coffee or cappuccino, and not only can I make it and pay for it faster than I can get an order at Starbucks, but it tastes alot better. Also it's 99 cents, about 5 dollars cheaper. Sure, gas stations maybe don't use the high quality coffee from the hills of Columbia or wherever like Starbucks, but that doesn't matter. Coffee really only needs to do 2 things: taste good and wake your ass up. Of course this is all personal preference, maybe people really really like the taste of that swill Starbucks tosses together and think 6 bucks is worth it. Also I'm not really what i call a "coffee snob." Kinda like a wine snob. Beyond coffee and cappuccino, I couldn't tell you what that other stuff is. Espresso, frappucino, latte..... Don't know what the hell they are and don't care too much. So Starbucks can keep that crap too.
 
2014-07-19 08:09:31 PM  

thornhill: In a lot of cities there was simply nothing then -- and even today there's still not much in a lot of places.

I lived in downtown Philadelphia in the '80s and '90s, and for a while, Starbucks was pretty much the best you could do outside of a restaurant and a couple of cafes (and during that period cafes that did know how to pull a shot would often go out of business within a few years).


Ah, I was wondering if that was the case on the east coast. I'd have to ask my parents. I guess my dad lucked out on getting a good job out here in the Bay Area and moving not far from one of the first few Peet's locations. I can remember back in the early 80s being out with him on the weekends when he'd buy coffee for the week - I didn't drink it at such a young age, but it smelled wonderful.

And given the fact that Folgers still remains far and away the most popular coffee, roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown will always remain boutiques.

At least more people have a taste for good coffee, so they might be more likely to brew the Folgers type stuff correctly. It's actually not bad when you follow the directions on the label - something I found the guys in my office weren't doing when I started work there.
 
2014-07-19 08:20:04 PM  

Dirty J1: thornhill: Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.

In all seriousness, you need to remember what the coffee market was like 20 years ago: it was the those big vats of Folgers and Maxwell house you bought at e supermarket and made with your Mr. Coffee, or two hour old drip at 7-11. There really weren't many places outside of major cities where you could easily find espresso, let alone something made from freshly grinder beans.

Today, a lot of Starbucks drinkers just don't know better because often they don't have access to better. But roasters like Blue Bottle and Stumptown are expanding aggressively -- there is finally demand for high quality beans.

And as for why people don't make their own coffee -- pure laziness. Same reason why fast food and prepared foods are so hugely popular. If people cannot take 15 minutes to make their own lunch, why would anyone think that they'd spend 5 minutes making coffee?

Suppose you're right, but even on my lazy days i stop at a gas station for some rather delicious coffee or cappuccino, and not only can I make it and pay for it faster than I can get an order at Starbucks, but it tastes alot better. Also it's 99 cents, about 5 dollars cheaper. Sure, gas stations maybe don't use the high quality coffee from the hills of Columbia or wherever like Starbucks, but that doesn't matter. Coffee really only needs to do 2 things: taste good and wake your ass up. Of course this is all personal preference, maybe people really really like the taste of that swill Starbucks tosses together and think 6 bucks is worth it. Also I'm not really what i call a "coffee snob." Kinda like a wine snob. Beyond coffee and cappuccino, I couldn't tell you what that other stuff is. Espresso, frappucino, latte..... Don't know what the hell they are and don't care too much. So Starbucks can keep that crap too.


Go to a place that uses Stumptown or Counterculture beans (or find a Blue Bottle). You may change your mind completely.
 
2014-07-19 09:00:08 PM  

thornhill: The reasons they have such good profit margins and their beans taste burnt is because they buy cheap beans and then dark roast them to mask the bad flavor (the darker you roast a bean the less of its natural flavor you get)


is because they doubled up on the caffeine, which is addictive.

/You Will Die: The Burden of Modern Taboos -->
 
2014-07-19 09:24:13 PM  

Dirty J1: Never understood the hype over Starbucks. It tastes like ass and is grossly overpriced. It's become a status symbol for people with money to blow. I can make way better coffee in my ancient coffee pot at home for pennies on the dollar compared to Starbucks. The fact that Starbucks is even still in business amazes me. It has to be the fact that well payed blowhards need to look successful by having a Starbucks coffee in their hands. Hell, I get 99 cent gas station coffee thats better that Starbucks.


Ugh, self absorbed twats like you drive me nuts.  Of course you can make coffee at home for cheaper. You know what?  So can everyone at Starbucks.  You know what you can't do?  Provide jobs for over 100,000 people throughout the entire supply chain and delivery mechanism that is Starbucks for that price.  Get over yourself.  You can probably get cheaper and better water in the glacial runoffs in Patagonia too, that doesn't mean that public utilities are only for "well payed blowhards who need to look successful by having  water come out of their faucets on demand!"
 
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