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(BBC-US)   Everything changes when you hit the big 1-0, your legs start to go, candy doesn't taste as good anymore, you get to be an independent contractor   ( bbc.com) divider line
    More: Sad, Bolivia, President Evo Morales, child murder, social democracies, international regulations, international treaties, extreme poverty  
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2014-07-18 04:41:59 AM  
Why do they call them "developing" countries?
If they haven't "developed" by now they aren't going to.
Just call it what it is, a backwards shiathole, and it's going to stay a backwards shiathole.

It's not unlike the way they refer to neighborhoods that are quickly turning into ghettos as "transitional neighborhoods".
 
2014-07-18 08:06:11 AM  
In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?
 
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2014-07-18 08:52:51 AM  

TommyymmoT: Why do they call them "developing" countries?
If they haven't "developed" by now they aren't going to.
Just call it what it is, a backwards shiathole, and it's going to stay a backwards shiathole.

It's not unlike the way they refer to neighborhoods that are quickly turning into ghettos as "transitional neighborhoods".


Like China?
 
2014-07-18 09:12:08 AM  

DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?


dab1nmslvvntp.cloudfront.net
 
2014-07-18 09:50:22 AM  
I had a job when I was 11.

But I grew up in the backward sh*thole of Ohio.
 
2014-07-18 09:52:42 AM  

mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Honestly I think this is one of the cases where legalization and regulation could lead to better conditions than currently. I think the "self-employed" part is stupid, but if you already have a ton of 10 year olds working in your country and try as you might you can't stamp out the industry, it is better to legalize it so you can at least monitor the conditions these children are working in.
 
2014-07-18 09:59:27 AM  

mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Starvation?
 
2014-07-18 10:00:51 AM  
Don't they know that if they can get to the U.S. they'll be taken care of?
 
2014-07-18 10:03:25 AM  

MindStalker: mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Honestly I think this is one of the cases where legalization and regulation could lead to better conditions than currently. I think the "self-employed" part is stupid, but if you already have a ton of 10 year olds working in your country and try as you might you can't stamp out the industry, it is better to legalize it so you can at least monitor the conditions these children are working in.


I wonder if the government could improve the situation by paying parents to have their children go to school. Having children in school serves the best interests of the state (more productive citizens) and the best long-term interests of the child and his or her family (higher income per year and lifetime earnings). Of course, in a "work or starve" situation, the short-term interests are much more pressing than the long-term ones. By paying parents to have their children attend school and not work (or at least not work as much), the state would ameliorate the immediate need which should, in theory, lead to better outcomes. Parents could just have their children attend school  and work so that they game the system.  Obviously this kind of program would be a massive pain to implement and oversee.
 
2014-07-18 10:21:30 AM  

TommyymmoT: It's not unlike the way they refer to neighborhoods that are quickly turning into ghettos as "transitional neighborhoods".


Ummm, Wasn't transitional neighborhoods the latest step on the euphemism treadmill for gentrification, as in the complete opposite of what you are talking about?
 
2014-07-18 10:24:41 AM  

TommyymmoT: Why do they call them "developing" countries?
If they haven't "developed" by now they aren't going to.
Just call it what it is, a backwards shiathole, and it's going to stay a backwards shiathole.

It's not unlike the way they refer to neighborhoods that are quickly turning into ghettos as "transitional neighborhoods".


It would help if the US didn't spend decades pursuing policies that inhibit those countries from developing.
 
2014-07-18 10:26:52 AM  

Madewithrealbitsofpanther: TommyymmoT: It's not unlike the way they refer to neighborhoods that are quickly turning into ghettos as "transitional neighborhoods".

Ummm, Wasn't transitional neighborhoods the latest step on the euphemism treadmill for gentrification, as in the complete opposite of what you are talking about?


I'm pretty sure it covers the downward spiral as well.
 
2014-07-18 10:28:01 AM  

MindStalker: Honestly I think this is one of the cases where legalization and regulation could lead to better conditions than currently. I think the "self-employed" part is stupid, but if you already have a ton of 10 year olds working in your country and try as you might you can't stamp out the industry, it is better to legalize it so you can at least monitor the conditions these children are working in.


This.

Why the fark not let them work? My 10-year-old daughter has spent the past two weeks doing farmer's work 8+ hours a day at a day-camp on a working farm - and we've been paying the farm a pretty penny for the privilege of cleaning stables and chicken coops, milking cows and goats and churning butter. This ain't no petting-zoo snowflake camp bullshiat. She comes home dog tired with some major farm-stank, but she loves it, and I like that somebody in the house smells worse than me. And hey, at the end of the day we get udder-fresh butter and eggs straight from the southbound end of a northbound hen.

Next year she wants to do the sleepover option so she can help with birthing the lambs, calves and kids.

/csb
 
2014-07-18 10:30:32 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It would help if the US didn't spend decades pursuing policies that inhibit those countries from developing.


Although in general this  is true, the drug trade is not a great example for Bolivia, although the growing cocaine industry in Peru has to be seeping into Bolivia. Bolivia has different issues, such as the more developed world farking with their water utilities.
 
2014-07-18 10:32:26 AM  

TommyymmoT: I'm pretty sure it covers the downward spiral as well.


Maybe technically it does, but I have never heard it used except in reference to where the gays and hipsters are moving to in Brooklyn.
 
2014-07-18 10:38:32 AM  

TommyymmoT: mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Starvation?


Response to troll post with regards to "liberals"?

I honestly don't know whether or not this law will prevent abuses already rampant in many developing nations. The ILO's concern may be misplaced in this particular case. I don't know. But libs, libbing will unlibbily lib to libbing of liblical libportions. ;p
 
2014-07-18 10:38:42 AM  

Madewithrealbitsofpanther: UNC_Samurai: It would help if the US didn't spend decades pursuing policies that inhibit those countries from developing.

Although in general this  is true, the drug trade is not a great example for Bolivia, although the growing cocaine industry in Peru has to be seeping into Bolivia. Bolivia has different issues, such as the more developed world farking with their water utilities.


The drug war is only half the problem. Free trade policies are the other half. It's hard to develop domestic industries when foreign products are significantly cheaper. Haiti's crippled rice agri-business is an excellent example. Heck, even Clinton himself has admitted that Haiti was crippled by free trade agreements under his administration.
 
2014-07-18 10:39:00 AM  
I woulda killed for a job at 10. I never got one of those 'allowances.'
 
2014-07-18 10:45:24 AM  

MindStalker: mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Honestly I think this is one of the cases where legalization and regulation could lead to better conditions than currently. I think the "self-employed" part is stupid, but if you already have a ton of 10 year olds working in your country and try as you might you can't stamp out the industry, it is better to legalize it so you can at least monitor the conditions these children are working in.


Came in here to say something just like this.  It seems like they already have a rampant black market of child labor, and the families need the income.  Like you said, this way the whole thing is brought into visibility and regulated to where the child has workers' rights and educational opportunities. Who knows maybe they will eventually form a youth labor cooperative which empowers them further.
 
2014-07-18 10:52:34 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Free trade policies are the other half


Yep, which is why a growing number of lesser developed countries are turning away from the US to focus on trade with EU and China. The claims the US makes on ag policy through supposed "free trade" agreements are not helping these countries.
 
2014-07-18 11:03:04 AM  
Newt Gingrich's dream world!
 
2014-07-18 11:12:56 AM  

SuburbanCowboy: Newt Gingrich's dream world!


"Dagny, there's nothing of any importance in life - except how well you do your work. Nothing. Only that. Whatever else you are, will come from that. It's the only measure of human value. All the codes of ethics they'll try to ram down your throat are just so much paper money put out by swindlers to fleece people of their virtues. The code of competence is the only system of morality that's on a gold standard."

-- Francisco d'Anconia to Dagny Taggart. Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand.


/he had sex with her in the book and here's how it was described (with Francisco still being treated like a hero): "She knew that fear was useless, that he would do what he wished, that the decision was his."
//no mention in the story if her body had a way of shutting that whole thing down.
 
2014-07-18 11:22:08 AM  
Better that they become thieves instead? I have no problem with children working as long as they're keeping up with their studies and aren't booked for an excessive number of hours per week.
 
2014-07-18 11:26:59 AM  

DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?


You don't consider prostitution to be working? How f*cking lazy are you in the sack?
 
2014-07-18 11:36:21 AM  

Kome: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

You don't consider prostitution to be working? How f*cking lazy are you in the sack?


i think you're making a pretty baseless assumption here
 
2014-07-18 11:46:45 AM  

sprawl15: Kome: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

You don't consider prostitution to be working? How f*cking lazy are you in the sack?

i think you're making a pretty baseless assumption here


Explaining a play on words destroys the joke. So here it is.

Three choices were given. A choice is where you're given a chance to choose from different things. If 'prostitution' was considered to be 'work' by DrPainMD, they'd be the same thing so there'd only be two things to choose from.

It's a play on the word "work".

cache.boston.com

For another example on a play on words where the word "work" is used, see Office Space (1999, 20th Century Fox films).
 
2014-07-18 12:02:49 PM  
Jackpot777:

the joke is that kome assumed drpainmd has ever in 'the sack' to begin with

hope that helps

please forward any future questions to:
 
2014-07-18 01:09:50 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: Newt Gingrich's dream world!


Too many in this country mistake the Gilded Age for a Golden one.
 
2014-07-18 02:24:38 PM  
As someone who lives in Los Angeles, I'm getting a kick.

/what, you think 10yos are completely barred from working in the US? Ha!
 
2014-07-18 05:27:43 PM  

TommyymmoT: mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Starvation?


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"Wrong. Guess again."
 
2014-07-18 05:44:14 PM  

DrPainMD: TommyymmoT: mutterfark: DrPainMD: In many countries, the choice is work, starve, or become a prostitute. Guess which choice liberals want to deny them?

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Starvation?

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"Wrong. Guess again."


Your mother's choice of career paths has nothing to do with the liberals.
Study it out.
 
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