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(AP)   In NFL news, the Santa Clara 49ers officially open their $1.2 billion new stadium, located 45 miles south of San Francisco   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 89
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2014-07-17 07:22:53 PM  
submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.
 
2014-07-17 07:44:10 PM  

SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.


And is probably surprised that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers don't play underwater.
 
2014-07-17 07:56:32 PM  
Los Angeles Angels (of Anaheim)
 
2014-07-17 08:54:55 PM  
I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.
 
2014-07-17 09:28:57 PM  
Your point is dumb because you acknowledge that this is taking place in the Bay Area. Most people here don't care, and would rather restrain the SF name than change it.

Subby is lame, too.
 
2014-07-17 09:32:54 PM  

SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.


MetLife Stadium is only 7 miles from midtown Manhattan.

Yes, lots of teams play outside of their titular home city, but I'm with subby.  You have to draw the line somewhere.  45 miles is kind of stretching it.
 
2014-07-17 09:37:22 PM  

FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.


Buffalo playing in Toronto!

..oh wait, that actually happened.
 
2014-07-17 09:46:32 PM  
to be fair the team's HQ and training facilities were always in Santa Clara (the stadium is located on land they bought directly next to where the team practiced)

also it's the Bay Area, nobody can blame anybody for wanting to get further away from downtown - the team is just following their fans
 
2014-07-17 09:51:09 PM  

SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.


And I'm sure he thinks the lions play in Detroit.
 
2014-07-17 09:56:15 PM  
One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach...all the damn vampires
 
2014-07-17 09:57:03 PM  

Doc Daneeka: FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

Buffalo playing in Toronto!

..oh wait, that actually happened.


Because it's stupid enough to say so, Toronto is out of the 45 mile zone.  It's just shy of 60 as the crow flies.
 
2014-07-17 10:00:15 PM  

steamingpile: SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.

And I'm sure he thinks the lions play in Detroit.


Uhhhh........
 
2014-07-17 10:03:31 PM  
San Jose 49ers in 3...2...

It'll be like the San Jose Sharks in the Cow Palace, only backwards and with a more historical team. Fun.

And Golden State Warriors are gonna be in SF...hmmm

/Raiders back in LA but retain their Oakland name? =D
 
2014-07-17 10:23:19 PM  
c2.staticflickr.com

Sports teams often play several miles away from the city they claim to be based in.
 
2014-07-17 10:38:05 PM  

LessO2: steamingpile: SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.

And I'm sure he thinks the lions play in Detroit.

Uhhhh........


What, the Silverdome is still fine, right?
 
2014-07-17 10:38:11 PM  
Fark the 49ers wherever they play.
 
2014-07-17 10:49:24 PM  

FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal. Albany.


FTFY

/hint: they haven't been the "Boston Patriots" since 1971
 
2014-07-17 10:51:24 PM  

FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.


it's over 60 miles from Philly to AC....
Shiatty point is shiatty
 
2014-07-17 10:52:11 PM  
We had this a while back in NASCAR, too. When they opened Chicagoland Speedway in Joliet, many people, myself included, thought "Chicagoland? Isn't Joliet...not Chicago?"

This from a sport that has Charlotte Motor Speedway in nearby Concord, Atlanta Motor Speedway in Hampton about 10-20 miles south of downtown, and Phoenix International Raceway on the outskirts of Phoenix. Though to be fair, most of the major racetracks are either in the city they're named for (Darlington, Richmond, Daytona and Talladega), or they're named for their state or region (New Hampshire, Texas, California and Michigan).

At least the New England Patriots aren't the Boston Patriots, because then they'd be somewhat guilty of the same, though anyone in the Boston area knows it'd be crazy to build a modern football stadium in downtown Boston.

I think the reason the Giants/Jets take it on the chin is because of the state line. At least the Mets and the Yankees play within the city limits. To an NYC local, the football teams still play in the NY metro area, and that's good enough. But to people from outside the area, those state lines are hard and fast. I remember when a friend of mine living in Bridgeport, CT and working in Stamford described himself as living "not in Connecticut, but in the NY metro area." I don't say I'm from Boston...well, until people look at me wondering where the hell New Hampshire is.
 
2014-07-17 10:54:08 PM  

Doc Daneeka: FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

Buffalo playing in Toronto!

..oh wait, that actually happened.


Tennessee played in Memphis until the stadium in Nashville was built.

/was there
 
2014-07-17 11:25:26 PM  
Really? Well...that's stupid. Really stupid. 45 farking miles? Change the name of the team.
 
2014-07-17 11:30:57 PM  

mikaloyd: Fark the 49ers wherever they play.


Apparently Goddell didn't shut the door on the Raiders/Niners sharing the building.  Because that would work out...
 
2014-07-17 11:36:57 PM  
What's kinda funny is San Jose is a bigger and much more important city than SF at this point. It's just not as well known.
 
2014-07-17 11:45:12 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Really? Well...that's stupid. Really stupid. 45 farking miles? Change the name of the team.


Santa Clara, while not the city of San Francisco is still on the bay.  San Francisco Bay.

They are still technically a team playing in the San Francisco area, and thus the name is still the best kind of correct.
 
2014-07-17 11:47:33 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: mikaloyd: Fark the 49ers wherever they play.

Apparently Goddell didn't shut the door on the Raiders/Niners sharing the building.  Because that would work out...


Shut your whore mouth! THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
 
2014-07-17 11:50:33 PM  

mikaloyd: Ken VeryBigLiar: mikaloyd: Fark the 49ers wherever they play.

Apparently Goddell didn't shut the door on the Raiders/Niners sharing the building.  Because that would work out...

Shut your whore mouth! THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!


Oh I know it won't, might as well have us play half our home games in KC and the other half in Denver,
 
2014-07-17 11:54:48 PM  

Neeek: What's kinda funny is San Jose is a bigger and much more important city than SF at this point. It's just not as well known.

 
2014-07-17 11:57:23 PM  
Yeah,  subby, you tell 'em

Just like the
East Rutherford Giants
East Rutherford Jets
Orchard Park/Toronto Bills
Arlington Cowboys
Landover Redskins
Tampa Buccaneers
 
2014-07-18 12:33:59 AM  

FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.


Can't speak to the others but Seattle plays in Seattle.
 
2014-07-18 12:35:54 AM  

epyonyx: FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.

Can't speak to the others but Seattle plays in Seattle.


Whoosh.
 
2014-07-18 12:38:18 AM  

LucklessWonder: Yeah,  subby, you tell 'em

Just like the
East Rutherford Giants
East Rutherford Jets
Orchard Park/Toronto Bills
Arlington Cowboys
Landover Redskins
Tampa Buccaneers


Bucaneers play in Tampa unless Im missing something in your post.

The stadium is just down the road on Dale Mabry from some high quality strip joints.

Another one for your list is the Miami Dolphins. They play in Miami Gardens which is like 20 miles outside of Miami.
 
2014-07-18 12:41:12 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: LucklessWonder: Yeah,  subby, you tell 'em

Just like the
East Rutherford Giants
East Rutherford Jets
Orchard Park/Toronto Bills
Arlington Cowboys
Landover Redskins
Tampa Buccaneers

Bucaneers play in Tampa unless Im missing something in your post.

The stadium is just down the road on Dale Mabry from some high quality strip joints.

Another one for your list is the Miami Dolphins. They play in Miami Gardens which is like 20 miles outside of Miami.


He might be thinking of the St. Petersburg Rays.

But as others point out, the San Francisco name is staying for tradition and for marketing purposes. No one is going to get excited about the Santa Clara 49ers.

Wish they were able to figure out a way to build it in San Francisco but they kept running into political problems which is why they settled with Santa Clara. It's still going to feel weird though.
 
2014-07-18 12:42:15 AM  

sirrerun: epyonyx: FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:

New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.

I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.

Can't speak to the others but Seattle plays in Seattle.

Whoosh.


Alcohol could be a factor.
 
2014-07-18 12:46:13 AM  
The issue to me is less that they are playing 45 minutes from San Fran... it is more that they are 5 miles from San Jose, which is a larger city.   Whether San Francisco has more "history" or not than San Jose, this will be the first time in major American sports history that a team is playing in a home stadium and naming themselves after a city further away than a closer, larger city to the stadium.

Which is why all of the other comparisons are not equivalent, because in every case (including Anaheim teams being named for L.A.), they are going further away to take the name of a larger city.  I guess as I said, many will say they are going further away to take the name of a "better"/"more notable" city.
 
2014-07-18 12:50:50 AM  

dletter: The issue to me is less that they are playing 45 minutes from San Fran... it is more that they are 5 miles from San Jose, which is a larger city.   Whether San Francisco has more "history" or not than San Jose, this will be the first time in major American sports history that a team is playing in a home stadium and naming themselves after a city further away than a closer, larger city to the stadium.

Which is why all of the other comparisons are not equivalent, because in every case (including Anaheim teams being named for L.A.), they are going further away to take the name of a larger city.  I guess as I said, many will say they are going further away to take the name of a "better"/"more notable" city.


And the person right above talking about the "Santa Clara", nobody is complaining to call them "Santa Clara".. S.C. is the "East Rutherford" and "Pontiac" in this situation.... it is more like a team playing 10 miles from Washington DC, but, they call themselves the "Baltimore" whatevers.
 
2014-07-18 12:53:46 AM  
Wait until people find out that Dallas plays in the NFC EAST. All OCD hell will break loose.
 
2014-07-18 12:54:25 AM  
dalje.com
 
2014-07-18 12:59:42 AM  

FriarReb98: I think  subby's point is more that it is stupid as fark to play 45 miles away from the home city of the team.  For some comparisons:
New England playing in Manchester or on the Cape Cod Canal.
New York playing just outside Bridgeport, Newburgh or Trenton.
Philly playing in Atlantic City or Allentown.
Pittsburgh playing in Wheeling.
Cleveland playing in Canton.
Indy playing home games at Ball State or IU.
Chicago playing at Kankakee or Kenosha.
Cincy playing at Dayton.
Washington in Fredericksburg, Baltimore in Frederick.
Atlanta playing in Rome or Athens.
Tennessee playing in Clarksville.
Tampa Bay playing at Sarasota.
Miami playing in West Palm Beach.
Denver playing in Loveland or Colorado Springs.
Seattle playing in Olympia.
I know it's different with the way the Bay Area is set up, but my point stands - anywhere else and this'd sound retarded.



Oh trust me, as someone who lives in SF, this still sounds retarded.

/Green Bay Packers owner
 
2014-07-18 12:59:45 AM  
Anyone know if the MLS game is going to sell out the entire stadium or if they are locking it down for lower bowl only or if it'll even sell out the lower bowl?
 
2014-07-18 01:36:31 AM  
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2014-07-18 01:40:43 AM  
It's only 35 miles in a direct line from the stadium to downtown San Francisco. That's only 10 more miles than the distance between Jerryworld and downtown Dallas. Hardly a huge distance. Hell, I live pretty much exactly the same distance from downtown SF (in the opposite direction) and I routinely drive that in the afternoon to pick up my wife if she doesn't feel like taking the bus home.

San Francisco is only 7 miles x 7 miles*. That is  miniscule in area, so pretty much anywhere they put it is going to seem like it's "far away" to someone that might be used to the infinite sprawl of somewhere like Los Angeles, Phoenix, or Indianapolis. If San Francisco took up the same amount of distance on the peninsula as Dallas, it would be well inside the city limits.


*: I know someone is going to Google "san francisco area" and see the 232 sq mi. measurement and think I'm lying. That number includes the water that falls within the city limits. The land is 47 sq mi.)
 
2014-07-18 01:49:16 AM  

Doc Daneeka: SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.

MetLife Stadium is only 7 miles from midtown Manhattan.

Yes, lots of teams play outside of their titular home city, but I'm with subby.  You have to draw the line somewhere.  45 miles is kind of stretching it.


45 miles isn't really that far away. That's well within the radius of a daily commute in California.
 
2014-07-18 02:25:11 AM  

AdamK: to be fair the team's HQ and training facilities were always in Santa Clara (the stadium is located on land they bought directly next to where the team practiced)

also it's the Bay Area, nobody can blame anybody for wanting to get further away from downtown - the team is just following their fans


Actually the training facilities used to be in Redwood City.
 
2014-07-18 02:27:56 AM  
 
2014-07-18 02:37:01 AM  

upright: Your point is dumb because you acknowledge that this is taking place in the Bay Area.


And by the way, when you're talking to people that don't live in "the Bay Area," don't call it "the Bay Area." There's a lot of bays in the United States. Your bay ain't all that.

I know that in this context it's not necessary, since we're talking about the San Francisco 49'ers of Santa Clara, but in the future...just keep this in mind.
 
2014-07-18 02:43:48 AM  

Lando Lincoln: And by the way, when you're talking to people that don't live in "the Bay Area," don't call it "the Bay Area." There's a lot of bays in the United States. Your bay ain't all that.



Not from the Bay Area:

i55.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-18 03:57:47 AM  

The_Y2P_Problem: [c2.staticflickr.com image 200x150]

American Football teams often play several miles away from the city they claim to be based in.


FTFY. If you really want to see torches and pitchforks try moving baseball stadia.
 
2014-07-18 04:32:51 AM  

Lando Lincoln: upright: Your point is dumb because you acknowledge that this is taking place in the Bay Area.

And by the way, when you're talking to people that don't live in "the Bay Area," don't call it "the Bay Area." There's a lot of bays in the United States. Your bay ain't all that.

I know that in this context it's not necessary, since we're talking about the San Francisco 49'ers of Santa Clara, but in the future...just keep this in mind.


It's not even the only bay in the Bay Area. Or even the most interesting one, from a geological or marine biology perspective.
 
2014-07-18 07:11:45 AM  

rcantley: LessO2: steamingpile: SilentStrider: submitter probably thinks the Giants and Jets both play in New York City.

And I'm sure he thinks the lions play in Detroit.

Uhhhh........

What, the Silverdome is still fine, right?


Sorry.
 
2014-07-18 07:51:22 AM  

AdamK: also it's the Bay Area, nobody can blame anybody for wanting to get further away from downtown - the team is just following their fans


The old stadium at Candlestick Park is nowhere near downtown. It's south of the city, off 101. It's also a pain in the ass to get to in a location that makes Detroit look desirable. So really, the worst of both worlds. For many people in their fanbase, especially anybody in the East Bay, it's probably going to take no longer to get to. And as some other Farker pointed out, 45 miles is not a long way in that part of the US; when I lived in Half Moon Bay, we'd routinely drive that far for a good dim sum brunch.

Personally, I think this is all about locating the stadium where it will attract Silicon Valley money, especially corporate leases on luxury suites.

/CSB: I worked a block and a half away for several years while they were constructing this thing.
 
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