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2014-07-17 10:36:30 AM
If you can't afford the low cost of  a basic web site, chances are you aren't going to be able to finance any sort of a campaign.
 
2014-07-17 10:45:25 AM

nekom: f you can't afford the low cost of  a basic web site, chances are you aren't going to be able to finance any sort of a campaign.


What good is belonging to a major national party if they can't even afford or are unwilling to give you even the low cost of a basic website? It could potentially (depending on actual execution) make a big difference, especially in all these small podunk elections, and isn't gonna break the bank.

On the other hand, the low levels are where the crazies show up, and the internets never forget... putting policy positions on paper (er, disk) is dangerous.
 
2014-07-17 10:48:31 AM
FTFA: "Its free to set up," he said, "But we charge a flat fee for donation processing. Candidates who sign up through the Michigan Democratic Party get a discounted fee."

Meh, I'm okay with this, I guess. Seems fairly forward thinking. It will help lesser known candidates in down ticket races the most I imagine.
 
2014-07-17 10:52:40 AM
I'm OK with this. I don't see why not.
 
2014-07-17 10:58:29 AM

quatchi: FTFA: "Its free to set up," he said, "But we charge a flat fee for donation processing. Candidates who sign up through the Michigan Democratic Party get a discounted fee."

Meh, I'm okay with this, I guess. Seems fairly forward thinking. It will help lesser known candidates in down ticket races the most I imagine.


Definitely.  I don't get a local paper so when it comes to election time I look at a preview ballot and at least try to access each candidate's website.  If they don't have a website I'm probably not going to vote for them because I don't know anything about their positions and party isn't enough.
 
2014-07-17 11:06:23 AM

Kevin72: I'm OK with this. I don't see why not.


I don't see why not either, there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems to me maintaining a web page is one of the LEAST expensive things involved in a campaign.
 
2014-07-17 11:16:20 AM
Sounds like the MI Democrats are doing everything they can to prevent a candidate going full Akin/Palin/Bachmann, which is very smart.

"Oh, don't worry, we'll do your website. Your cousin Moonbeam's offer to do a page where you'll feature the Gaia-Murderer of the Day and demand all cars be built from adobe won't be needed."
 
2014-07-17 11:39:28 AM
How effective will this be if there is no mechanism to drive traffic to the website?
 
2014-07-17 02:21:55 PM

nekom: Kevin72: I'm OK with this. I don't see why not.

I don't see why not either, there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems to me maintaining a web page is one of the LEAST expensive things involved in a campaign.


Might be the least expensive, but the most labor-intensive (or the most by-the-job expensive. Letter-stuffers come cheap, sysadmins not as much); a prefab website is always better than build-from-scratch.

Campaign websites are usually just buzzword bingo with a donation button anyway - when was the last time a campaign website actually provided useful information about the candidate and their positions rather than being easily-ignored fluff?
 
2014-07-17 02:30:29 PM
It's a step in the right direction.  We need to fund all campaigns with tax money.  We could piss away an astounding amount of money on people running that had no hope of being elected and still be way ahead.
 
2014-07-17 02:31:45 PM

nekom: If you can't afford the low cost of  a basic web site, chances are you aren't going to be able to finance any sort of a campaign.


This is supposed to help them contest every elected position in the state.  For the majority of the local municipal positions, I think "finance ... a campaign" is a bit much; "have a buck fifty lying around" would probably cover it.
 
2014-07-17 02:45:48 PM
" Hopefully they all work  "


Bwaaaaahahahahahacoughsputterhahahahasnort

I get it.  It's cuz the Obamacare website dint work!

Oh God... that was funny.  Pure comedy gold, subby.  You should be writing for Pauly Shore.
 
2014-07-17 02:51:20 PM

John the Magnificent: " Hopefully they all work  "


Bwaaaaahahahahahacoughsputterhahahahasnort

I get it.  It's cuz the Obamacare website dint work!

Oh God... that was funny.  Pure comedy gold, subby.  You should be writing for Pauly Shore.


Easy princess. It was a way to make politics more fun. I did email them asking this very question. They replied back asking what this was in reference to. I mentioned the success rate of website made for democratic agendas. I didn't get a response back.
 
2014-07-17 03:31:39 PM
I still can't believe it when even local candidates don't have at least some basic web presence.
 
2014-07-17 03:43:51 PM
Silly Subby, everyone knows Democrats don't work.
 
2014-07-17 03:53:37 PM

incendi: What good is belonging to a major national party if they can't even afford or are unwilling to give you even the low cost of a basic website? It could potentially (depending on actual execution) make a big difference, especially in all these small podunk elections, and isn't gonna break the bank.

On the other hand, the low levels are where the crazies show up, and the internets never forget... putting policy positions on paper (er, disk) is dangerous.


If the party runs the website, they can keep a tight rein on the crazy.
 
2014-07-17 03:53:55 PM
A single hosting site for the 101st Chairborne keyboard commandos to hack/deface/DDOS?

This offer will generate epic lulz.
 
2014-07-17 04:11:23 PM

nekom: If you can't afford the low cost of  a basic web site, chances are you aren't going to be able to finance any sort of a campaign.


KEEP MONEY IN POLITICS!
 
2014-07-17 08:12:03 PM

Dr Dreidel: nekom: Kevin72: I'm OK with this. I don't see why not.

I don't see why not either, there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems to me maintaining a web page is one of the LEAST expensive things involved in a campaign.

Might be the least expensive, but the most labor-intensive (or the most by-the-job expensive. Letter-stuffers come cheap, sysadmins not as much); a prefab website is always better than build-from-scratch.

Campaign websites are usually just buzzword bingo with a donation button anyway - when was the last time a campaign website actually provided useful information about the candidate and their positions rather than being easily-ignored fluff?


Www.darrelforcongress.com

That's the Dem in my district
 
2014-07-18 08:01:06 AM

nekom: If you can't afford the low cost of  a basic web site, chances are you aren't going to be able to finance any sort of a campaign.



We're not talking about a "basic" website ( which consists of a single HTML page and a 1-year contract with GoDaddy)

Given how FAST campaigns go and how mercurial the coffers are, I think offering the kind of website (and staff to feed it) that allows Message control, small donor collection (in compliance with FEC rules) and email alerts, text messaging, facebook and twitter integration..... Especially with messaging review procedures... There are a lot of moving parts that can be done poorly, and making sure that there is a smooth-running package that can be installed in 20 minutes on a rented AWS or Azure instance is going to be the kind of thing that a party can actually do really well that individual candidates can't really afford to spend time and money on in the process of any one campaign. Add to all of this that a campaign website is liable to be attacked and/or deface way more than, say, an etsy vendor ... and yeah, Go Dems.
 
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