genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.Except she was fighting and admitted it.
Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.
scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business. Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police. Gotta show those kids who's boss. Can't let them get away with being lippy and running. No sir. Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you. If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you. If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise). She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.But you already knew all of that....Will and should are two completely different things. God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs. Someone runs? Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond. Are they mouthing off? Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them! Yes, they ran. Yes, they were lippy. Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me. Yet folks give the police a free pass. These are teenagers doing what teenagers do. Obviously the right response is to beat them.I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.
WanPhat: "It's after curfew, run along now""SHE'S RUNNING! TACKLE HER!"What terrible thing would have happened if they just let her run away?
moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!GAZA has a curfew. Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?
jshine: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.Except she was fighting and admitted it....or putting up her hands in a defensive posture? Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.
Capo Del Bandito: She...tried to walk/run away from the cops and is surprised at her treatment? Idiocy.You wouldn't kick a bee's nest and attempt to 'walk away from it' would you?Ah well, at least she learned something, I hope.
jankyboy: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!SURPRISE!!!When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.A big bowl of THIS. When you run from the police, an ass-kickin' is comin'.
Theory Of Null: I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.
Snarfangel: I blame laziness.
parahaps: You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?
jshine: MonoChango: "Curfew"? God when did we start living in the Soviet Union?Columbine
lindalouwho: Yeah, it's been a long time since Johnny Gammage was beaten to death for driving while black, this town is not far from Brentwood.Farkin' farked up cops.
pedrop357: Erik_Emune: Police-enforced curfews is a thing? Kee-rist, I'm glad I grew up in Europe.Only in the "land of the free".
moeburn: Yeah, she should have just sat there and taken her beating.
El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.
Empty H: She also stated "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." she pushed the envelope because she thought she was special.I don't think it justifies an intense beating, but the officers were dealing with a non-compliant individual who ran and resisted because she thought she was special.I would like to think the officers tried to handle the situation without violence, but I wasn't there.
Capo Del Bandito: moeburn: Yeah, she should have just sat there and taken her beating.Or, just *maybe* don't run from the cops when they've detained you.
Fark like a Barsoomian: Curfews for the young keep them from making decisions they can't really make. This girl can't figure out whether she should be outside as well as someone older. Youngsters don't understand as well as the rest of us how screwed up your brain gets when you're awake when your biological clock says the sun is down, it's time to turn off. It's been tested and people get stranger and more aggressive if they stay up.So curfews sound like a nice idea... until you see what's enforcing them. Enforcement comes through emotional toddlers with guns, badges, and cars that my taxes paid for.The entire problem with our legal system is the "in theory" "in reality" divide - I understand the idea of Super Justice Dudes cleaning up the streets with their Super Justice power, but have you seen what the reality looks like?
neongoats: Whoa curfew violation, that surely requires physical intervention!
xanadian: vernonFL: MerceedezI drive a Maasdah pick-em-up truck./what's wrong with people and their pretentious "creativity" with naming their kids...
Rincewind53: Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson. The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.She'll take this lesson to heart.Nah, the real lesson she learned is not to walk outside while black.You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.
moeburn: So if you run, you should expect to get beat? I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.
CeroX: Right there in the article:"I was scared because of how he got out of the car. He didn't just walk out, he jumped out of the car and started chasing me, so my first instinct was to run," she said.Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. She said she was trying to get her arms free to protect herself.Eye witness accounts said that they jumped out of the car and chased her, tackling her and then pulled her by her hair and then started kicking her...By the video that girl weighs maybe 110 pounds...THAT'S AN OUTR- wait, she's black and has an overtly black sounding name? Nevermind...Hey Fark... your racism is showing.../not all of you, but enough that i'm pretty sickened by the 100 pound black girl got what she deserved...
rummonkey: jankyboy: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!SURPRISE!!!When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.A big bowl of THIS. When you run from the police, an ass-kickin' is comin'.It wasn't even an ass-kicking. She ran and they did their job. She got knocked on the ground and cuffed. Next time don't act like an entitled primadonna and comply with the officers.I've dealt with curfew violations many times as a police officer and all but two of them resulted with a friendly reminder and a free ride to mommy and daddy's house.
pedrop357: Mugato: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?/seriously, never heard of thatIt's only in the US, and doesn't exist in a few of the largest cities - NYC and Boston to name two. San Francisco only applies it to people under 14 after 1am.All the other countries in the world don't seem to feel the need for police to hassle people who are or might appear to be under 18 doing nothing else wrong.
El Dudereno: moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!GAZA has a curfew. Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?Old people fear teenagers. Old people show up to town meetings where new ordinances are discussed. Old people can vote. Teenagers do none of those things, but are scary with their jazz music and dancing and whatever the hell else it is they do that old folks dislike.
Capo Del Bandito: moeburn: So if you run, you should expect to get beat? I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.Ok dunno how many real life 'altercations' you've been in, but that isn't exactly a moment to 'stop and analyze the whole situation'. If the cops have stopped you and you try to leave, and then take off running, yes you will be tackled, face in the dirt, cuffed and hauled off like a hogtied animal.
Snarfangel: cwolf20: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police. I wonder why that might be.I do wonder why they didn't tackle and hospitalize her friends she was with.I blame laziness.
moeburn: Empty H: She also stated "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." she pushed the envelope because she thought she was special.I don't think it justifies an intense beating, but the officers were dealing with a non-compliant individual who ran and resisted because she thought she was special.I would like to think the officers tried to handle the situation without violence, but I wasn't there.I can see how it can be construed that way, but I think the "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." phrase was meant as "I didn't think they would try to beat me up because there's no way I could possibly physically hurt them or even resist them".Are you sure she ran and "resisted" because she thought she was special, and not because she recognized that these cops could have done anything they wanted to her and gotten away with it?"but I wasn't there."- Why is it that you only admit that on your third sentence, but not the first two?
parahaps: A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?
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