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2014-07-17 09:25:38 AM  
Merceedez  Wright
 
2014-07-17 09:32:22 AM  
She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.
 
2014-07-17 09:36:28 AM  
They say the Devil lives in my soul
I promise not to let him take control

I'm minding my own business
I ain't doing nothing wrong
I ain't doing nothing wrong
 
2014-07-17 09:54:58 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.


Nah, the real lesson she learned is not to walk outside while black.

You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.
 
2014-07-17 10:07:41 AM  

Rincewind53: You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.


It really would depend on the part of town that they were in.  The girls admitted to breaking curfew, giving the police some attitude, running away & fighting back when caught.  The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice regardless of color (perhaps not to the extent that they did here though).  In a neighborhood filled with expensive houses, expensive cars & doctors & lawyers living there, no the police would have been much more gentle.  However I can think of a neighborhood around here (95% white) where the girls there would be beat on just as much for doing the same as these did.  Of course that neighborhood is filled with meth heads, junkies, welfare queens & just pure white trash.

It's economics not race that determines much of the police actions these days. Can daddy afford a lawyer is one of the first things that they ask themselves before the street justice comes into play
 
2014-07-17 10:09:25 AM  
She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.
 
2014-07-17 10:12:25 AM  

Recoil Therapy: Rincewind53: You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.

It really would depend on the part of town that they were in.  The girls admitted to breaking curfew, giving the police some attitude, running away & fighting back when caught.  The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice regardless of color (perhaps not to the extent that they did here though).  In a neighborhood filled with expensive houses, expensive cars & doctors & lawyers living there, no the police would have been much more gentle.  However I can think of a neighborhood around here (95% white) where the girls there would be beat on just as much for doing the same as these did.  Of course that neighborhood is filled with meth heads, junkies, welfare queens & just pure white trash.

It's economics not race that determines much of the police actions these days. Can daddy afford a lawyer is one of the first things that they ask themselves before the street justice comes into play


Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.
 
2014-07-17 10:15:07 AM  

vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.


Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.
 
2014-07-17 10:27:07 AM  
There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.
 
2014-07-17 10:38:10 AM  

Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.


I agree, if they're able to run around and do whatever pleases them all night, sooner or later these things will take care of themselves.
 
2014-07-17 10:38:27 AM  
question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....
 
2014-07-17 10:41:06 AM  
Yeah, it's been a long time since Johnny Gammage was beaten to death for driving while black, this town is not far from Brentwood.

Farkin' farked up cops.
 
2014-07-17 10:42:48 AM  

Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.


Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?

/seriously, never heard of that
 
2014-07-17 10:46:51 AM  
Where I live in Baltimore there is a curfew. If there wasn't, we would have roaming gangs of teenagers out at all hours of the night.

We have that now, but without the curfew it would be worse. It would be like the Warriors movie.
 
2014-07-17 10:54:22 AM  

Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....


Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.
 
2014-07-17 11:12:01 AM  

question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.


I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.
 
2014-07-17 11:12:52 AM  

question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.


Oh go try trolling somewhere else.  I said that they police wouldn't beat on you (probably) for just being lippy.  And then there is your continued ignoring of the little fact that the girls were fighting with the police when caught.  Nope, it's all about giving the police free pass to beat on anyone whenever they feel like it.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the girls fighting with them, nope nothing at all....
 
2014-07-17 11:48:04 AM  
I think I've seen a porno with a similar scenario, but the cops didn't beat up the cheerleader.
 
2014-07-17 12:19:27 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I think I've seen a porno with a similar scenario, but the cops didn't beat up the cheerleader.


But they did use their truncheons on her.
 
2014-07-17 12:25:47 PM  
She was probably pregnant so it's even worse.
 
2014-07-17 12:40:48 PM  
SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.
 
2014-07-17 12:41:13 PM  
Whoa curfew violation, that surely requires physical intervention!

/cops are terrorists
//soon cops will be planting ied's to surprise apprehend suspects
/cops are terrorists
 
2014-07-17 12:41:35 PM  

vernonFL: Where I live in Baltimore there is a curfew. If there wasn't, we would have roaming gangs of teenagers out at all hours of the night.

We have that now, but without the curfew it would be worse. It would be like the Warriors movie.


oh noes the kids will be out at all hours. the horror!

/just farking pack more ammo than they do...
 
2014-07-17 12:41:44 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright


Yup.

She just lifted her arms in self-defense.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-17 12:42:18 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright


The parents are the ones that need to be beaten for giving their poor child that unfortunate name
 
2014-07-17 12:42:38 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright


How could her parents possibly fark that up? The correct spelling is right there on the car.
 
2014-07-17 12:44:20 PM  
Well, she was almost out of ice cream.
 
2014-07-17 12:44:20 PM  

Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.


"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.
 
2014-07-17 12:44:37 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.


The real lesson learned is just because she thinks shes a little princess doesn't mean she is.
 
2014-07-17 12:45:00 PM  
Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.
 
2014-07-17 12:45:02 PM  
It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."
 
2014-07-17 12:45:39 PM  
stop breaking the law, asshole.gif

/seriously, broke curfew, ran, resisted, all bad ideas.
 
2014-07-17 12:45:44 PM  

jankyboy: Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright

How could her parents possibly fark that up? The correct spelling is right there on the car.


The problem is their car reads Port Authority...

trustarts-prod.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-07-17 12:45:49 PM  

Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.


A big bowl of THIS. When you run from the police, an ass-kickin' is comin'.
 
2014-07-17 12:45:59 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.


Stop resisting the beating we're giving you!
 
2014-07-17 12:47:56 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.


After they tackled her for no real reason?
 
2014-07-17 12:48:43 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

I agree, if they're able to run around and do whatever pleases them all night, sooner or later these things will take care of themselves.


No legal curfew doesn't equal do what you want.
 
2014-07-17 12:48:51 PM  
brittanyherself.com

/No thanks dad, I've already got a Merceedez
 
2014-07-17 12:49:00 PM  
"Hey Karl, check out that biatch eating ice cream like she owns the place. Let's run a number six."
 
2014-07-17 12:49:30 PM  

vernonFL: Where I live in Baltimore there is a curfew. If there wasn't, we would have roaming gangs of teenagers out at all hours of the night.

We have that now, but without the curfew it would be worse. It would be like the Warriors movie.


Baltimore is scary enough in the daytime. Except in Inner Harbor and Camden Yards. But the other side of M & T Stadium....shudders
 
2014-07-17 12:49:32 PM  

jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.


Except she was fighting and admitted it.
 
2014-07-17 12:49:44 PM  
"Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered."


What you "believe" and what is going to happen to you when you run from the police and then resist aren't even in the same universe, honey. But now you know.
 
2014-07-17 12:49:55 PM  
Curfew violation: Reason to stop and talk to you
Running away from cops when they try to stop and talk to you: Reason to tackle you
Trying to free yourself from restraint after being tackled for running away from cops who have stopped to talk to you: A likely chance that cops will use too much force to subdue you.

I'm not saying she deserved the damage she received, but to argue she didn't deserve any of this over a curfew violation is disingenuous at best.  She received the damage she did for running and resisting.
 
2014-07-17 12:49:58 PM  
...and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled...

Stopped reading right there.
 
2014-07-17 12:49:59 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.


""I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl."

No she learned she can't apply her pussypass at night when people can't tell she's a girl.
 
2014-07-17 12:50:06 PM  

Mugato: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?

/seriously, never heard of that


notsureifserious.jpg

It's a very old word, from the French iirc, for "cover the fire".
 
2014-07-17 12:50:08 PM  

Mugato: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?

/seriously, never heard of that


It's only in the US, and doesn't exist in a few of the largest cities - NYC and Boston to name two.  San Francisco only applies it to people under 14 after 1am.

All the other countries in the world don't seem to feel the need for police to hassle people who are or might appear to be under 18 doing nothing else wrong.
 
2014-07-17 12:50:28 PM  
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2014-07-17 12:50:36 PM  
FTA: "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl."

Lol.  Surprise beotch!


Also FTA:  "said Wright's mother, Audelia Amoah. "She's a good kid."


No, she's not a good kid.  Now go be a parent and teach your child not to run from and fight the police.
 
2014-07-17 12:50:42 PM  

vernonFL: Merceedez


I drive a Maasdah pick-em-up truck.

/what's wrong with people and their pretentious "creativity" with naming their kids...
 
2014-07-17 12:50:51 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Rincewind53: You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.

It really would depend on the part of town that they were in.  The girls admitted to breaking curfew, giving the police some attitude, running away & fighting back when caught.  The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice regardless of color (perhaps not to the extent that they did here though).  In a neighborhood filled with expensive houses, expensive cars & doctors & lawyers living there, no the police would have been much more gentle.  However I can think of a neighborhood around here (95% white) where the girls there would be beat on just as much for doing the same as these did.  Of course that neighborhood is filled with meth heads, junkies, welfare queens & just pure white trash.

It's economics not race that determines much of the police actions these days. Can daddy afford a lawyer is one of the first things that they ask themselves before the street justice comes into play


No they are not justified in dishing out some street justice. Infact they have a legal obligation to do the exact opposite.
 
2014-07-17 12:51:17 PM  
Too bad someone didn't stop her mom from naming her Merceedez.
 
2014-07-17 12:51:26 PM  

Recoil Therapy: street justice


Street justice isn't justice.
 
2014-07-17 12:51:26 PM  
Why is there an ice cream store open after curfew so that these young innocents are tempted to be law breakers.

/expected her to be white
 
2014-07-17 12:52:37 PM  

strathmeyer: Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.

""I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl."

No she learned she can't apply her pussypass at night when people can't tell she's a girl.



These cops may be many things, but at least they aren't sexist.
 
2014-07-17 12:52:45 PM  
She ran from the cops. No good will come of that, ever. They are going to have to stop you and there's no way to stop someone from running away that doesn't involve some level of bodily harm.

Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?
 
2014-07-17 12:53:11 PM  

Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....


The reality is that after beating the shiat out of you they should be fired in disgrace.
 
2014-07-17 12:53:29 PM  
Is this the thread where a couple of sociopaths who commit on average 3 felonies a day act like beating somebody for breaking curfew is alright? Good times.
 
2014-07-17 12:53:33 PM  
I need feminism so I can run from the cops
 
2014-07-17 12:53:40 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Recoil Therapy: street justice

Street justice isn't justice.


It's not street justice. They were legally trying to arrest her and she fought them. They defended themselves. Curfews are BS but the police don't write the laws.
 
2014-07-17 12:54:11 PM  
Dumfark violating curfew runs from police and resists arrest with violence. Yeah, non-story.
 
2014-07-17 12:54:18 PM  
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.
 
2014-07-17 12:54:22 PM  

genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.


...or putting up her hands in a defensive posture?  Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.
 
2014-07-17 12:54:28 PM  

Dwangerous: Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright

The parents are the ones that need to be beaten for giving their poor child that unfortunate name



The cops probably thought she was a stolen Merceedez.
 
2014-07-17 12:54:53 PM  
Save the cheerleader, save the world.
 
2014-07-17 12:55:25 PM  

question_dj: Can't let them get away with being lippy and running. No sir. Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.


If they run they must be guilty of something.   "Curfew"? God when did we start living in the Soviet Union?   Are we under marital law?  Is there a declared emergency? No.  There was no reason for the cop to even stop them.
 
2014-07-17 12:55:45 PM  

jshine: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

...or putting up her hands in a defensive posture?  Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_wound
 
2014-07-17 12:55:47 PM  
"Mer-SAY-dees benz!"

www.bobgruen.com
 
2014-07-17 12:55:50 PM  
ITT: "Police beatings are ok, because the person getting beaten up probably deserved it".

You people are disgusting.
 
2014-07-17 12:55:51 PM  
She not blonde and white, so she's not really a cheerleader.
 
2014-07-17 12:56:35 PM  

MonoChango: "Curfew"? God when did we start living in the Soviet Union?


Columbine
 
2014-07-17 12:56:59 PM  

Jument: Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?


It's the ultimate intersection of nanny state lefties, "law and order" righties, and lazy cops while being only  applied to people who have no political or economic power.

In other words, statists, political cowards and lazy asses are the ones who think it's a really neat idea.

Nevermind that it has NO positive effect on juvenile crime and may actually make things worse - cops who feel the need to stop people under 18 can't see the real crime down the street, and empty streets tends to enable/encourage crime.
 
2014-07-17 12:57:22 PM  

qorkfiend: ITT: "Police beatings are ok, because the person getting beaten up probably deserved it".

You people are disgusting.


I don't think anyone in the world really believes that. At least I hope not.
 
2014-07-17 12:57:25 PM  

jshine: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

...or putting up her hands in a defensive posture?  Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.


That would be a good argument if she didn't admit to deliberately fighting the police. The facts of the incident aren't in question. All sides agree on what happened. The stupid girl actually thinks she has the right to slug an officer and not get hit back.
 
2014-07-17 12:58:31 PM  
Police-enforced curfews is a thing? Kee-rist, I'm glad I grew up in Europe.
 
2014-07-17 12:58:43 PM  

Pugdaddyk: Why is there an ice cream store open after curfew so that these young innocents are tempted to be law breakers.

/expected her to be white


Frankly so did I.  'Til I saw Pocketninja's Boobies.
.
 
2014-07-17 12:58:45 PM  

Jument: qorkfiend: ITT: "Police beatings are ok, because the person getting beaten up probably deserved it".

You people are disgusting.

I don't think anyone in the world really believes that. At least I hope not.


The police do.
 
2014-07-17 12:58:59 PM  

Erik_Emune: Police-enforced curfews is a thing? Kee-rist, I'm glad I grew up in Europe.


Only in the "land of the free".
 
2014-07-17 12:59:00 PM  

neongoats: Whoa curfew violation, that surely requires physical intervention!

/cops are terrorists
//soon cops will be planting ied's to surprise apprehend suspects
/cops are terrorists


Maybe not IEDs, but IADs.
Improvised apprehension devices. Snares, pits, nets... that sort of thing.
Could be hilarious. Dude's running from the cops and all of a sudden he's hoisted by the ankle into a tree.
 
2014-07-17 12:59:08 PM  
"I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl."


Stopped reading there.  Yes, they will, especially if you run, fight with them, and scream you farking moron.
 
2014-07-17 12:59:26 PM  
It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.
 
2014-07-17 12:59:33 PM  
" when I was young I had a twist; for punching babies with my fist; and then I though I would enlist and join MacCormak army"
 
2014-07-17 12:59:39 PM  
A curfew??? Where is this place? East Germany circa 1949?
 
2014-07-17 12:59:43 PM  
"It's after curfew, run along now"

"SHE'S RUNNING!  TACKLE HER!"

What terrible thing would have happened if they just let her run away?
 
2014-07-17 12:59:44 PM  

pedrop357: Jument: Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?

It's the ultimate intersection of nanny state lefties, "law and order" righties, and lazy cops while being only  applied to people who have no political or economic power.

In other words, statists, political cowards and lazy asses are the ones who think it's a really neat idea.

Nevermind that it has NO positive effect on juvenile crime and may actually make things worse - cops who feel the need to stop people under 18 can't see the real crime down the street, and empty streets tends to enable/encourage crime.


As has been said, the cops do not write the laws. This law was written by elected officials. The blame lies with the voters IMHO. They should be clamoring for this law to be stricken from the books and for the impeachment of those responsible.
 
2014-07-17 12:59:59 PM  
Cop jumps out of car, teen runs.  All cops tackle the teen, while leaving the others alone.

If it weren't for the fact that they beat the crap out of her, this would be a case of "Don't run from a cop. Ever.  If they point guns at you, fall back in a faint, and stay limp"
 
2014-07-17 01:00:06 PM  
You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?
 
2014-07-17 01:00:09 PM  
The police take 'walking while black' very seriously.
 
2014-07-17 01:00:11 PM  
At least the cops don't discriminate based on gender.
 
2014-07-17 01:00:58 PM  

monoski: jankyboy: Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright

How could her parents possibly fark that up? The correct spelling is right there on the car.

The problem is their car reads Port Authority...

[trustarts-prod.s3.amazonaws.com image 580x241]


Harvard University - DeVry University
 
2014-07-17 01:02:10 PM  

Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.


I do wonder why they didn't tackle and hospitalize her friends she was with. Cops are bloodthirsty animals with no moral standing after all (I'm being sarcastic at this point)
 
2014-07-17 01:02:38 PM  

genner: jshine: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

...or putting up her hands in a defensive posture?  Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.

That would be a good argument if she didn't admit to deliberately fighting the police. The facts of the incident aren't in question. All sides agree on what happened. The stupid girl actually thinks she has the right to slug an officer and not get hit back.


TFA: "They both just tackled me to the ground and smashed my face into the ground with their feet and their legs. Then they started pulling my hair and pushing me and stuff, and I was screaming real loud," Wright said.

It doesn't sound like she punched the officer.  ...but even if she had, two armed men should be able to subdue a 17 year-old girl without that level of violence.  If they can't control the situation without putting her in the hospital, then at best they don't have the judgement required to be police officers.  Or has police training really devolved to "beat the suspect until they stop moving resisting"?

/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/nypd-apologizes-for-accidental-shoot i ngclubbingsta,739/
 
2014-07-17 01:03:18 PM  
If there's one thing I've learned about police, it's the position of power that comes first.  If you are older than the officer, or the same colour as them, you can usually get away with the small laws like jaywalking, littering, speeding and such.  But if you are younger, or of a different race, your ass is gonna get taught a lesson.
 
2014-07-17 01:03:31 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."


Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.
 
2014-07-17 01:03:35 PM  

AgentPothead: Is this the thread where a couple of sociopaths who commit on average 3 felonies a day act like beating somebody for breaking curfew is alright? Good times.


Nah, its the thread where we hate on cops for trying to subdue someone who was running away from a law violation. We all know the cops shoulda just shrugged it off and let them go...and if turned out later that those kids were breaking curfew and running away from cops because they were commiting crimes then, meh, surely those cops would not be haraunged for not doing their jobs. No harm no foul, obviously.
 
2014-07-17 01:03:58 PM  

Jument: pedrop357: Jument: Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?

It's the ultimate intersection of nanny state lefties, "law and order" righties, and lazy cops while being only  applied to people who have no political or economic power.

In other words, statists, political cowards and lazy asses are the ones who think it's a really neat idea.

Nevermind that it has NO positive effect on juvenile crime and may actually make things worse - cops who feel the need to stop people under 18 can't see the real crime down the street, and empty streets tends to enable/encourage crime.

As has been said, the cops do not write the laws. This law was written by elected officials. The blame lies with the voters IMHO. They should be clamoring for this law to be stricken from the books and for the impeachment of those responsible.


Cops can still selectively enforce the way they do with everything else.  SFPD apparently stopped enforcing their curfew years ago to focus on actual crime.

It's sold as a way to curb juvenile crime despite juveniles committing very few crimes at night even in cities without curfews, supported by the police, and only effects people who don't vote.  If curfews could only be applied to the demographics who actually commit most of the crime at night, there would be no curfews.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:00 PM  
I did that on purpose.  Messin' with the ninja.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:22 PM  

Xanlexian: Jument: qorkfiend: ITT: "Police beatings are ok, because the person getting beaten up probably deserved it".

You people are disgusting.

I don't think anyone in the world really believes that. At least I hope not.

The police do.


I have a cop in my family.  I told him about this story.  His response was "sometimes police can be provoked".

I wish I had a job that let me get provoked into beating the shiat out of someone.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:43 PM  
The cops are making it easy to ambush them.  All you need to do is use bait that's not white or have a dog that's barking and they'll come like flies to shiat.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:53 PM  

cwolf20: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

I do wonder why they didn't tackle and hospitalize her friends she was with.


I blame laziness.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:58 PM  
Curfews for the young keep them from making decisions they can't really make. This girl can't figure out whether she should be outside as well as someone older. Youngsters don't understand as well as the rest of us how screwed up your brain gets when you're awake when your biological clock says the sun is down, it's time to turn off. It's been tested and people get stranger and more aggressive if they stay up.

So curfews sound like a nice idea... until you see what's enforcing them. Enforcement comes through emotional toddlers with guns, badges, and cars that my taxes paid for.

The entire problem with our legal system is the "in theory" "in reality" divide - I understand the idea of Super Justice Dudes cleaning up the streets with their Super Justice power, but have you seen what the reality looks like?
 
2014-07-17 01:05:05 PM  
She...tried to walk/run away from the cops and is surprised at her treatment? Idiocy.

You wouldn't kick a bee's nest and attempt to 'walk away from it' would you?

Ah well, at least she learned something, I hope.
 
2014-07-17 01:05:06 PM  

genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.


But okay, benefit of the doubt here. The story in the article is all full of contradictions, so it's not like this is accurate... But benefit of the doubt.

A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?

You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?
 
2014-07-17 01:05:17 PM  
Terrorists hate us because of our freedom.
 
2014-07-17 01:05:18 PM  

Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.


Coincidentally, I went to an inner-city school, and there were two black girls in my class with the name "unique".  One was spelled with a U, and one with a Y.
 
2014-07-17 01:05:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.


Except for the fact that the resistance, per the article, began after the officer tackled and kicked her.  Good jorb.
 
2014-07-17 01:05:32 PM  

WanPhat: "It's after curfew, run along now"

"SHE'S RUNNING!  TACKLE HER!"

What terrible thing would have happened if they just let her run away?


She might have met up with some violent people and gotten hurt.
 
2014-07-17 01:05:34 PM  

moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?


Most of our cities don't. Though some malls do.  A few have even gone so far as to reduce the profit for restaurants inside by banning teenagers who don't have adults with them.

I think the mentioned city is under a "precious snowflake" ordinance. Either that or they think all teenagers are automatic criminals. And will break into your house, drink your beer and eat your cheetos, threaten your dog with a baseball bat, and steal your orange juice
 
2014-07-17 01:05:38 PM  
She's a cheerleader.  She was on prom court.  She's a good girl.  Come on local Pittsburgh newspeople.  Dig hard enough and you'll find she was an honor roll student who also sings in the church choir.  We have to establish that she's an angel with a body and soul as pure as the driven snow so we can really make this, in the words of Joe Biden, a big farking thing and get the race hustlers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson out in front of the Clairton Police station demanding the badges and the heads of the cops involved.

Something, anything to revive the prospects and interests of living in a shiathole like Clairton.  BTW, Clairton is a small town (population 6,700 or so) mostly unemployed peoples.  The town has been on the downswing since the 60s when the US steel industry collapsed.  Since then the town's only claim to fame was it was supposed to be the town used in The Deerhunter.But, like everything else about Clairton, the movie's producers took one look at the town and decided the only thing they could use from the town was the name.  The scenes used in the movie were all shot in a better looking small town in Ohio.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:01 PM  

jshine: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

...or putting up her hands in a defensive posture?  Many beatings come with defensive wounds -- it's an instinctual reaction that is nearly impossible to avoid.


Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:16 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: She...tried to walk/run away from the cops and is surprised at her treatment? Idiocy.

You wouldn't kick a bee's nest and attempt to 'walk away from it' would you?

Ah well, at least she learned something, I hope.


Yeah, she should have just sat there and taken her beating.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:31 PM  

scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.


She also stated "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." she pushed the envelope because she thought she was special.

I don't think it justifies an intense beating, but the officers were dealing with a non-compliant individual who ran and resisted because she thought she was special.

I would like to think the officers tried to handle the situation without violence, but I wasn't there.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:39 PM  

jankyboy: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

A big bowl of THIS. When you run from the police, an ass-kickin' is comin'.


It wasn't even an ass-kicking.  She ran and they did their job.  She got knocked on the ground and cuffed.  Next time don't act like an entitled primadonna and comply with the officers.

I've dealt with curfew violations many times as a police officer and all but two of them resulted with a friendly reminder and a free ride to mommy and daddy's house.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:45 PM  
out past curfew + running from the police + resisting arrest = "Good kid"

This is inner city math at it's finest.
 
2014-07-17 01:06:52 PM  

Theory Of Null: I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.


Came here for this.

/should be the headline subby
//why 62 comments ahead I don't know
///have a friend who banned their daughter Lexus. When his wife told me that I laughed in her face and told her it would be the only Lexus she could ever afford.
////slashies!
 
2014-07-17 01:07:06 PM  

Snarfangel: I blame laziness.


Or, her friends didn't run/resist, they stood where they were.

I mean you *could* get on the 'all cops are dah debil' bandwagon, or you could try to logically access the situation.
 
2014-07-17 01:07:28 PM  

parahaps: You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?


It's the onion ( http://www.theonion.com/articles/nypd-apologizes-for-accidental-shoot i ngclubbingsta,739/ ) but reminds me of:

After ignoring the officers' repeated commands to put down the threatening item in his hand, a bag containing a double order of General Chao's Chicken and a pint of rice, Livingston reached for the doorbell.  The officers responded by opening fire on his strategic top-of-the-stairs position from point-blank range, discharging their standard-issue 9mm handguns 245 times and striking him with approximately 175 teflon-coated hollow-point slugs.  Defiantly ignoring the officers' orders to freeze, Livingston dropped to the floor and convulsed wildly, kicking and thrashing and hurling blood in all directions.
 
2014-07-17 01:07:54 PM  

jshine: MonoChango: "Curfew"? God when did we start living in the Soviet Union?

Columbine


^^^Yup^^^ Most towns have curfews for minors.
 
2014-07-17 01:08:06 PM  

lindalouwho: Yeah, it's been a long time since Johnny Gammage was beaten to death for driving while black, this town is not far from Brentwood.

Farkin' farked up cops.


Fun story, brentwood just put the cop that was charged with murder in the grammage case back on patrol after 15 years of desk duty (and was also sued civilly for abusing his gf to the point she killed herself, but that part is sketchy. It was with his service piece while he was on duty but his Word that he was somewhere else was AOK goodunuf).

wonder if he's mellowed out at all?
 
2014-07-17 01:08:12 PM  

pedrop357: Erik_Emune: Police-enforced curfews is a thing? Kee-rist, I'm glad I grew up in Europe.

Only in the "land of the free".


You can't talk like that around here!!  Quick!!  Get back to your Free Speech Zone!
 
2014-07-17 01:08:23 PM  

moeburn: Yeah, she should have just sat there and taken her beating.


Or, just *maybe* don't run from the cops when they've detained you.
 
2014-07-17 01:08:46 PM  

El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.


Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.
 
2014-07-17 01:09:22 PM  
A curfew?

Seriously?

Tell me more about all the Freedom there is in the US.
 
2014-07-17 01:09:26 PM  

Empty H: She also stated "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." she pushed the envelope because she thought she was special.

I don't think it justifies an intense beating, but the officers were dealing with a non-compliant individual who ran and resisted because she thought she was special.

I would like to think the officers tried to handle the situation without violence, but I wasn't there.


I can see how it can be construed that way, but I think the "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." phrase was meant as "I didn't think they would try to beat me up because there's no way I could possibly physically hurt them or even resist them".

Are you sure she ran and "resisted" because she thought she was special, and not because she recognized that these cops could have done anything they wanted to her and gotten away with it?

"but I wasn't there."- Why is it that you only admit that on your third sentence, but not the first two?
 
2014-07-17 01:09:55 PM  

moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?


Old people fear teenagers. Old people show up to town meetings where new ordinances are discussed. Old people can vote. Teenagers do none of those things, but are scary with their jazz music and dancing and whatever the hell else it is they do that old folks dislike.
 
2014-07-17 01:10:20 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: moeburn: Yeah, she should have just sat there and taken her beating.

Or, just *maybe* don't run from the cops when they've detained you.


So if you run, you should expect to get beat?  I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.
 
2014-07-17 01:10:51 PM  
By the way, this is what driven snow might look like:

www.lternet.edu
 
2014-07-17 01:10:58 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Curfews for the young keep them from making decisions they can't really make. This girl can't figure out whether she should be outside as well as someone older. Youngsters don't understand as well as the rest of us how screwed up your brain gets when you're awake when your biological clock says the sun is down, it's time to turn off. It's been tested and people get stranger and more aggressive if they stay up.

So curfews sound like a nice idea... until you see what's enforcing them. Enforcement comes through emotional toddlers with guns, badges, and cars that my taxes paid for.

The entire problem with our legal system is the "in theory" "in reality" divide - I understand the idea of Super Justice Dudes cleaning up the streets with their Super Justice power, but have you seen what the reality looks like?


Dang, I really was farked up then.  It's only in the past 10 years that I've finally increased my sleep time from 5 hours to 8 hours, and I'm 39.  Starting in 1987 junior high, whatever time I went to sleep I woke up four hours later and was fully awake.  College, it increased to 5 hours.  And I wasn't the person who went driving around after dark.  I had a boring social life. Only time I hung out with people was when i was in school with them, or I walked 2 miles to the mall.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:11 PM  

neongoats: Whoa curfew violation, that surely requires physical intervention!


No, but running from cops after said violation does.

Now they may have gone overboard in tackling her and subduing her, but physical intervention was warranted.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:14 PM  
What did she think would happen when she mouthed off and ran from the cops? Look, if the cops stop to ask you questions, just stop and answer their questions. I know it's a hassle and 99.9% of the time you're doing nothing wrong, but you'll walk away unscathed.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:28 PM  
Goddamn it guys STOP DEFENDING THE POLICE until you know the whole story!  Think this through!

The proper response from the police chief would have been "we are taking this complaint extremely seriously and will commence investigation immediately" Not NO COMMENT..  BAD COP NO DONUT!

"No comment" right away indicates to the public they are not taking this complain seriously, or they strongly suspect there is a serious breech of policy and are closing ranks (which really pisses people off who support human rights). An immediate response is needed to maintain confidence

Besides, curfews belong in evil police states or during REAL wartime and emergencies (not this phony war on terror) and has no place in a free society.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:32 PM  
Right there in the article:

"I was scared because of how he got out of the car. He didn't just walk out, he jumped out of the car and started chasing me, so my first instinct was to run," she said.
Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. She said she was trying to get her arms free to protect herself.



Eye witness accounts said that they jumped out of the car and chased her, tackling her and then pulled her by her hair and then started kicking her...

By the video that girl weighs maybe 110 pounds...

THAT'S AN OUTR- wait, she's black and has an overtly black sounding name? Nevermind...

Hey Fark... your racism is showing...

/not all of you, but enough that i'm pretty sickened by the 100 pound black girl got what she deserved...
 
2014-07-17 01:12:07 PM  
Xanlexian [TotalFark]
2014-07-17 01:08:12 PM

pedrop357: Erik_Emune: Police-enforced curfews is a thing? Kee-rist, I'm glad I grew up in Europe.

Only in the "land of the free".

You can't talk like that around here!! Quick!! Get back to your Free Speech Zone!

There should be a "free speech zone" button

/Also Qouting should work
 
2014-07-17 01:12:08 PM  

xanadian: vernonFL: Merceedez

I drive a Maasdah pick-em-up truck.

/what's wrong with people and their pretentious "creativity" with naming their kids...


I don't know. Let's ask my son, Foard
 
2014-07-17 01:12:14 PM  

Rincewind53: Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.

Nah, the real lesson she learned is not to walk outside while black.

You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.


Depends on where. Any small nearly all-white town where they just profile you on your age? Yes.
Any larger than 5000 populace with a percentage of minorities greater than .01? Probably not.
 
2014-07-17 01:12:16 PM  
Merceedez

0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2014-07-17 01:12:22 PM  

moeburn: So if you run, you should expect to get beat? I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.


Ok dunno how many real life 'altercations' you've been in, but that isn't exactly a moment to 'stop and analyze the whole situation'. If the cops have stopped you and you try to leave, and then take off running, yes you will be tackled, face in the dirt, cuffed and hauled off like a hogtied animal.
 
2014-07-17 01:12:31 PM  

moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?


Because authoritarian shiatbags live everywhere.
 
2014-07-17 01:12:35 PM  

CeroX: Right there in the article:

"I was scared because of how he got out of the car. He didn't just walk out, he jumped out of the car and started chasing me, so my first instinct was to run," she said.
Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. She said she was trying to get her arms free to protect herself.


Eye witness accounts said that they jumped out of the car and chased her, tackling her and then pulled her by her hair and then started kicking her...

By the video that girl weighs maybe 110 pounds...

THAT'S AN OUTR- wait, she's black and has an overtly black sounding name? Nevermind...

Hey Fark... your racism is showing...

/not all of you, but enough that i'm pretty sickened by the 100 pound black girl got what she deserved...


I don't think it's racism.  I don't think these people actually believe that black people are an inferior race.  I think they're just a bunch of contrarians.
 
2014-07-17 01:13:02 PM  

rummonkey: jankyboy: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

A big bowl of THIS. When you run from the police, an ass-kickin' is comin'.

It wasn't even an ass-kicking.  She ran and they did their job.  She got knocked on the ground and cuffed.  Next time don't act like an entitled primadonna and comply with the officers.

I've dealt with curfew violations many times as a police officer and all but two of them resulted with a friendly reminder and a free ride to mommy and daddy's house.


Our son and his friends were stopped once at a park after hours... we got a friendly call from the officer who stopped them. I can't tell you what went through my mind when I answered the phone at midnight and the voice begins with "Mr. Jankyboy, this is officer so-and-so with the Colorado Springs Police Department..."

Luckily, they weren't doing anything stupid and were respectful to the officer, so he gave them a warning and made them go straight home.
 
2014-07-17 01:13:28 PM  
Maybe she shouldn't of ran from the cops. They kind of frown upon that.
 
2014-07-17 01:13:56 PM  

pedrop357: Mugato: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?

/seriously, never heard of that

It's only in the US, and doesn't exist in a few of the largest cities - NYC and Boston to name two.  San Francisco only applies it to people under 14 after 1am.

All the other countries in the world don't seem to feel the need for police to hassle people who are or might appear to be under 18 doing nothing else wrong.


Except Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21592368

and France

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3851517.ece

and maybe Germany

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/09/us-germany-curfew-idUSBRE8 68 0M020120709

Not to mention a curfew in Thailand although that seems related to the recent coup and any other places that I was too lazy to research.
 
2014-07-17 01:14:04 PM  

El Dudereno: moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?

Old people fear teenagers. Old people show up to town meetings where new ordinances are discussed. Old people can vote. Teenagers do none of those things, but are scary with their jazz music and dancing and whatever the hell else it is they do that old folks dislike.


El Dudereno: moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?

Old people fear teenagers. Old people show up to town meetings where new ordinances are discussed. Old people can vote. Teenagers do none of those things, but are scary with their jazz music and dancing and whatever the hell else it is they do that old folks dislike.


Americans are so complacent about their "freedom" that they (mostly) don't question the effects of giving it up piece by piece.
 
2014-07-17 01:14:07 PM  

moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?


Because teenagers!

TEEN-agers!

TEENAGERS!

I'm sorry, I meant 'juvenile delinquents'

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2014-07-17 01:14:27 PM  
One more violent criminal removed from our streets.  I, for one, feel much safer.  Thank you police officers.  Keep up the good work.
 
2014-07-17 01:15:01 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: moeburn: So if you run, you should expect to get beat? I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.

Ok dunno how many real life 'altercations' you've been in, but that isn't exactly a moment to 'stop and analyze the whole situation'. If the cops have stopped you and you try to leave, and then take off running, yes you will be tackled, face in the dirt, cuffed and hauled off like a hogtied animal.


I've been in literally the exact same situation as this girl.  Couple of cops saw me run a red light when I was on my bike (well, more like treat a red light like a stop sign, safely, at 4AM).  I had headphones on (again, at night here), so apparently I didn't hear them yelling at me.  Next thing I know, cop car slams into my bike and tries to run me over.  Cop jumps out of car and proceeds to bash my head into metal door, denting their car.

There was no violent crime in the neighbourhood.  They weren't looking for a criminal.  They were looking to "teach a punk a lesson".  You condone that?
 
2014-07-17 01:15:12 PM  

Snarfangel: cwolf20: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

I do wonder why they didn't tackle and hospitalize her friends she was with.

I blame laziness.


They didn't run or resist arrest. There are good reasons to hate most cops, this story isn't one of them.
 
2014-07-17 01:15:51 PM  

moeburn: Empty H: She also stated "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." she pushed the envelope because she thought she was special.

I don't think it justifies an intense beating, but the officers were dealing with a non-compliant individual who ran and resisted because she thought she was special.

I would like to think the officers tried to handle the situation without violence, but I wasn't there.

I can see how it can be construed that way, but I think the "I didn't think they would do that to me because I am a girl." phrase was meant as "I didn't think they would try to beat me up because there's no way I could possibly physically hurt them or even resist them".

Are you sure she ran and "resisted" because she thought she was special, and not because she recognized that these cops could have done anything they wanted to her and gotten away with it?

"but I wasn't there."- Why is it that you only admit that on your third sentence, but not the first two?


Your opinion and my opinion. How you choose to feel about them is up to you. Neither of us were there.
 
2014-07-17 01:16:02 PM  

parahaps: A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?



If it is a cop car, you drop to the ground and cover your head.
You will get beaten, otherwise, and the cops will get away with it.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  No-one.
 
2014-07-17 01:16:18 PM  
Well, she was carrying a congealed weapon...
 
2014-07-17 01:16:22 PM  

soupafi: Maybe she shouldn't of ran from the cops. They kind of frown upon that.


Seems like she had good reason to.
 
2014-07-17 01:16:38 PM  

jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.



I think small towns should welcome Venture Capitalists.
 
2014-07-17 01:17:09 PM  

Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.


We have curfews in Kansas City. They apply to different areas, at different times of the year, and none of them came about because some grumpy guy wrote a letter to the editor complaining about how kids should be at home studying instead of out and about. If that would work, we would have a law that no one under the age of 18 can be outside his own fenced yard at any time of the day or night without a leash held by his guardian. And his guardian would have to carry a bag to clean up any messes the farking punk made.
But that doesn't work. My letters never even get published in the Star. Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.
 
2014-07-17 01:17:48 PM  

Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.


Dumb names aren't a race. I'm sure there's a variant for schools filled with thirty spellings for "Madison," but I'm saving that bit for a thread about a white girl with a dumb name.
 
2014-07-17 01:18:01 PM  

gfid: pedrop357: Mugato: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

Really. I never even heard of such a thing. Curfew? What is this some dystopian sci-fi movie world?

/seriously, never heard of that

It's only in the US, and doesn't exist in a few of the largest cities - NYC and Boston to name two.  San Francisco only applies it to people under 14 after 1am.

All the other countries in the world don't seem to feel the need for police to hassle people who are or might appear to be under 18 doing nothing else wrong.

Except Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21592368

and France

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3851517.ece

and maybe Germany

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/09/us-germany-curfew-idUSBRE8 68 0M020120709

Not to mention a curfew in Thailand although that seems related to the recent coup and any other places that I was too lazy to research.


Barely 1 out of 3.  The German proposal apparently went nowhere and the one in Paris was aimed at everyone and all businesses to stop 'lawlessness'.
 
2014-07-17 01:18:03 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.


Hell, at this point it has been pretty firmly established nationwide that an on-duty officer can just decide to kill you for no reason with minimal risk to their jobs and no credible risk to their freedom.
 
2014-07-17 01:18:14 PM  
Good thing she wasn't carrying a bag of Skittles or else she'd probably be dead.
 
2014-07-17 01:18:21 PM  
On the plus side, her college tuition will now be covered in full by the impending lawsuit.

/make such settlements come from the officers themselves and see how quickly police learn to restrain themselves
 
2014-07-17 01:18:31 PM  

parahaps: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

But okay, benefit of the doubt here. The story in the article is all full of contradictions, so it's not like this is accurate... But benefit of the doubt.

A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?

You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?


He didn't leap out of the car and charge her. They talked to her first and attempted to detain her. She then decided to she wanted to "walk away from the situation"., her words.
 
2014-07-17 01:18:37 PM  

EngineerBob: Well, she was carrying a congealed weapon...


jennpav.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-17 01:19:03 PM  

Thingster: lindalouwho: Yeah, it's been a long time since Johnny Gammage was beaten to death for driving while black, this town is not far from Brentwood.

Farkin' farked up cops.

Fun story, brentwood just put the cop that was charged with murder in the grammage case back on patrol after 15 years of desk duty (and was also sued civilly for abusing his gf to the point she killed herself, but that part is sketchy. It was with his service piece while he was on duty but his Word that he was somewhere else was AOK goodunuf).

wonder if he's mellowed out at all?


What?!!?? How did I miss that story?
I just facepalmed so hard that it's gonna leave a bruise.
 
2014-07-17 01:19:08 PM  

jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.


How do you shoot women? Children?
 
2014-07-17 01:19:26 PM  

redmid17: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

After they tackled her for no real reason?


Broke ordnance (not sure the curfew is a law), then ran when questioned.  Seems like a pretty good reason!
 
2014-07-17 01:19:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright


I'm confident that race was not a factor in this beating.
 
2014-07-17 01:19:27 PM  

moeburn: There was no violent crime in the neighbourhood. They weren't looking for a criminal. They were looking to "teach a punk a lesson". You condone that?


....If you run from the police, they treat you as hostile. They're not mind readers and can't tell if you are or are not hostile especially after dark. That's not 'teaching a punk a lesson', that's your emotional bias and inability to understand a bigger picture than 'I got an owie'.
 
2014-07-17 01:19:44 PM  

Electrify: On the plus side, her college tuition will now be covered in full by the impending lawsuit.


She admitted to running away and resisting arrest. There may be a lawsuit but she wont get a dime.
 
2014-07-17 01:20:13 PM  
Hmmm, I guess she didn't see that Chris Rock video.

Obey the law.
Get a white friend.
Be polite.
Use common sense.

And something about -- if the police have to chase you, they're bringing an ass-kicking with them.
 
2014-07-17 01:20:18 PM  
Not a mark on her face (after having it shoved into the pavement), scuffs on each elbow which appear quite minor and nothing visible on either knee although she does point to them like they are injured in the video.  Standard issue neck brace.

Worst beating ever.  In no way pretext for a lawsuit.
 
2014-07-17 01:20:19 PM  

El Dudereno: jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.

How do you shoot women? Children?


It's easy! You just don't lead them so much!
 
2014-07-17 01:20:42 PM  
But she didn't have anything on her.
 
2014-07-17 01:20:51 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.


What happened to enforcing laws like disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace against those actually causing problems while leaving alone those doing nothing wrong?

A lot of law could "work" if they were lazily constructed and broadly applied.
 
2014-07-17 01:21:30 PM  

Snarfangel: jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.


I think small towns should welcome Venture Capitalists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

In this context it refers to the Việt Cộng, a political organization and army in Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War.
 
2014-07-17 01:21:37 PM  

Brainsick: moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?

Because teenagers!

TEEN-agers!

TEENAGERS!

I'm sorry, I meant 'juvenile delinquents'

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Gang girl is a little amusing.

An Italian friend's aunt dated a few mafia guys in her teenage years.
 
2014-07-17 01:21:42 PM  

Brainsick: moeburn: You people have farking CURFEWS in your country?!

GAZA has a curfew.  Why the hell does a small town in USA need a curfew?

Because teenagers!

TEEN-agers!

TEENAGERS!

I'm sorry, I meant 'juvenile delinquents'

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Look at those little hussies wearing their brothers' dungarees!
 
2014-07-17 01:21:42 PM  

Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.


That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.
 
2014-07-17 01:21:43 PM  
I understand she sustained most of the injuries when they tackled her in the rocky road.
 
2014-07-17 01:21:54 PM  

give me doughnuts: parahaps: A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?


If it is a cop car, you drop to the ground and cover your head.
You will get beaten, otherwise, and the cops will get away with it.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  No-one.


Your advice, it is wise.
 
2014-07-17 01:22:04 PM  

moeburn: I don't think it's racism. I don't think these people actually believe that black people are an inferior race. I think they're just a bunch of contrarians.


but had this been a blonde white girl, there would be serious cop outrage, but because "ghetto" sounding name and dark skin is involved, meh fark it, she got what she deserved...
 
2014-07-17 01:22:24 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright


I stopped reading right there
 
2014-07-17 01:23:11 PM  
I wish I were manly enough to defend the savage beating of a teenage girl over breaking a CURFEW by five minutes. I guess I just don't love freedom enough as some of you.

The people who are justifying or defending the cop should be lined up against a wall and shot. YOU are what is wrong with your shiatty-ass garbage can of a country. Cowardly, pathetic, beer-gutted losers all too willing to lick boots just because they happened to come down on a brown person or uppity librul's face.

/land of the pussies, home of the doormat
 
gja
2014-07-17 01:23:27 PM  

Rincewind53: vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.

Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.


Fun fact....you are wrong.
 
2014-07-17 01:23:40 PM  
How many kids does Merceedez have and are they named after cars too? (I bet they are...)
 
2014-07-17 01:23:44 PM  

pedrop357: rumpelstiltskin: Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.


www.sonsoflibertytees.com

I put all the blame of the politicians. The cops were just doing their job. Curfew laws are just idiotic.
 
2014-07-17 01:23:58 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

We have curfews in Kansas City. They apply to different areas, at different times of the year, and none of them came about because some grumpy guy wrote a letter to the editor complaining about how kids should be at home studying instead of out and about. If that would work, we would have a law that no one under the age of 18 can be outside his own fenced yard at any time of the day or night without a leash held by his guardian. And his guardian would have to carry a bag to clean up any messes the farking punk made.
But that doesn't work. My letters never even get published in the Star. Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.


Now if we could just put reporters and IRS agents on chains in their yards after a certain time.
 
2014-07-17 01:24:58 PM  
Curfews are crap and are just an excuse for cops to hassle kids. I don't know if DC has one but I remember when I was younger they kept getting struck down in courts. That being said she was an idiot for running and saying this "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl." Bzzzzzzzzt wrong answer, cops will chase you if you run and lady parts wont give you a get out of jail free card after they chase you down. She should have just stopped, apologized and flirted with the cops and maybe she would have gotten off.
 
2014-07-17 01:25:50 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."


She was fighting back and admitted it.
 
2014-07-17 01:25:50 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: How many kids does Merceedez have and are they named after cars too? (I bet they are...)


Actually the car was named after a girl, not the other way around.  It's been a name for a very long time.

/ ever read the Count of Monte Cristo?
 
2014-07-17 01:26:09 PM  

Turbo Cojones: redmid17: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

After they tackled her for no real reason?

Broke ordnance (not sure the curfew is a law), then ran when questioned.  Seems like a pretty good reason!


So a $50 ticket or warning and passively walking away deserves as escalation to tackling and assault?

That's like fumigating a house to kill a fly.
 
2014-07-17 01:26:18 PM  

Plastic Trash Vortex: I wish I were manly enough to defend the savage beating of a teenage girl over breaking a CURFEW by five minutes. I guess I just don't love freedom enough as some of you.

The people who are justifying or defending the cop should be lined up against a wall and shot. YOU are what is wrong with your shiatty-ass garbage can of a country. Cowardly, pathetic, beer-gutted losers all too willing to lick boots just because they happened to come down on a brown person or uppity librul's face.

/land of the pussies, home of the doormat


The best part is that some of the same people defending this application of cop power are the ones who tell us that we should be OK with various laws that MIGHT be abused because cops can enforce it selectively and won't be doing it to everyone.  Well, this is how this particular law was selectively applied.
 
2014-07-17 01:27:32 PM  

gja: Rincewind53: vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.

Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.

Fun fact....you are wrong.


Misdeamenors are generally those offenses with a sentence of less than one year.
A violation of a municipal ordinance usually incurs a fine, much like a parking ticket.
 
2014-07-17 01:27:34 PM  
THE FARKING ARTICLE:

"When they tried to go back to pick up a bag and a phone they left behind, they claim the officers tried to detain them.
Wright said she continued walking away from the officers, who then allegedly used force to stop her.
"They both just tackled me to the ground
and smashed my face into the ground with their feet and their legs. Then they started pulling my hair and pushing me and stuff, and I was screaming real loud," Wright said.
Her friends said they watched as officers used force to subdue her.
"(The officer) ran full force at her and she ran from him," said Destiny Hester. "They pounced on her, then started kicking her and pulling her hair."
"I hear her screaming, I run over there and she's on the ground. They're over there beating her up, kicking her, pulling her hair," said witness Bryon Clifford.
Wright is now recovering in the hospital with injuries to her trachea, esophagus and neck, plus several cuts and bruises.
"She's a cheerleader, she's a lifeguard at the Clairton pool, she was just on prom court," said Wright's mother, Audelia Amoah. "She's a good kid."
Even so, Wright admits she ran from officers.
"I was scared because of how he got out of the car. He didn't just walk out, he jumped out of the car and started chasing me, so my first instinct was to run," she said.
Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. She said she was trying to get her arms free to protect herself."

Nothing about getting lippy- just talking with police officers.
No arrest, until she started leaving.
Wasn't read miranda rights, wasn't told to stop, she was getting arrested, none of that.

She walked away, thinking, okay- they're just talking to us, going to go home, and they jump out of the car and start sprinting towards her with no warning?
You'd bet your ass I'd run too.
But then again, I'm female in our country, where men passing by on the sidewalk warrant a second look to make sure they aren't following you home.
 
2014-07-17 01:27:37 PM  

boarch: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

She was fighting back and admitted it.


he was violating her rights, so...
 
2014-07-17 01:27:57 PM  

jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.


How can you shoot at women and childern?
 
2014-07-17 01:28:12 PM  

SeaMan Stainz: jshine: El Dudereno: Kind of like running from people who start yelling and chasing you. That's why anyone the cops tackle gets charged with resisting. It's a reflex that allowed our species to live long enough to procreate.

Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.

How can you shoot at women and childern?


Don't lead them as much.
 
2014-07-17 01:28:32 PM  

genner: parahaps: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

But okay, benefit of the doubt here. The story in the article is all full of contradictions, so it's not like this is accurate... But benefit of the doubt.

A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?

You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?

He didn't leap out of the car and charge her. They talked to her first and attempted to detain her. She then decided to she wanted to "walk away from the situation"., her words.


Re-read the article. The second time in the article she said they charged after her, she said he leaped out of the car. It's two short paragraphs above the last line saying "Clairton police did not respond to requests for comment"
 
2014-07-17 01:28:36 PM  
The original Mercedes:
img.fark.net
 
2014-07-17 01:28:42 PM  

monoski: jankyboy: Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright

How could her parents possibly fark that up? The correct spelling is right there on the car.

The problem is their car reads Port Authority...

[trustarts-prod.s3.amazonaws.com image 580x241]


Yeah! Cause scary black folks ride the bus! Yeee-hah!

My god you kids today are dumb. And scared all the time I guess. How's it feel to be scared all the time of the black folk? Must suck.
 
2014-07-17 01:29:17 PM  

Rincewind53: Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.

Nah, the real lesson she learned is not to walk outside while black.

You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.


lol you're clueless
 
2014-07-17 01:29:49 PM  

genner: pedrop357: rumpelstiltskin: Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.

[www.sonsoflibertytees.com image 600x750]

I put all the blame of the politicians. The cops were just doing their job. Curfew laws are just idiotic.


So was the Gestapo and concentration camp guards.
 
2014-07-17 01:30:00 PM  

SewerSquirrels: sassing, running


because sassing and running are tantamount to pulling a weapon right? ESPECIALLY if it's a woman under 150lbs... Those biatches are dangerous! Need to beat them til they go limp so they learn their damn place!

How's about we start firing and locking up cops that abuse their position of authority... Stomping a mudhole in a 100lb girl for running is a gross abuse of power.

Chase? Tackle? Handcuff?  Sure, ok... they might get some bruises for that, but you can't tell me that an unarmed 100lb teenage girl is such a threat that custody is no longer an option, they need to hospitalize her...

fark them, and I hope they get shiatcanned, their wives leave them, they can't get another job, and they have to live in the ghetto right along with the people they like to harass...
 
2014-07-17 01:33:05 PM  

pedrop357: Jument: Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?

It's the ultimate intersection of nanny state lefties, "law and order" righties, and lazy cops while being only  applied to people who have no political or economic power.

In other words, statists, political cowards and lazy asses are the ones who think it's a really neat idea.

Nevermind that it has NO positive effect on juvenile crime and may actually make things worse - cops who feel the need to stop people under 18 can't see the real crime down the street, and empty streets tends to enable/encourage crime.


This. Authority lovers come from multiple directions, but one thing they can agree on is that we need to make young punks toe the line.

/perhaps she had been cheerleading at a midnight basketball game
 
2014-07-17 01:33:12 PM  
For those not in the USA: No, our country does not have a curfew. In some small towns where they have lots of teenagers but no places for them to go, and lots of old people who think all the crime is being done by kids, they have a local ordinance imposing a curfew on minors. Usually there's an exception for work or if the kids are on their way home shortly after curfew starts.
 
2014-07-17 01:33:19 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: genner: pedrop357: rumpelstiltskin: Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.

[www.sonsoflibertytees.com image 600x750]

I put all the blame of the politicians. The cops were just doing their job. Curfew laws are just idiotic.

So was the Gestapo and concentration camp guards.


"Befehl ist Befehl"
 
2014-07-17 01:34:53 PM  

CeroX: SewerSquirrels: sassing, running

because sassing and running are tantamount to pulling a weapon right? ESPECIALLY if it's a woman under 150lbs... Those biatches are dangerous! Need to beat them til they go limp so they learn their damn place!

How's about we start firing and locking up cops that abuse their position of authority... Stomping a mudhole in a 100lb girl for running is a gross abuse of power.

Chase? Tackle? Handcuff?  Sure, ok... they might get some bruises for that, but you can't tell me that an unarmed 100lb teenage girl is such a threat that custody is no longer an option, they need to hospitalize her...

fark them, and I hope they get shiatcanned, their wives leave them, they can't get another job, and they have to live in the ghetto right along with the people they like to harass...


Naw, then they'd be stinkin' up the ghetto and snitching right and left. How about if they live in a van down by the river.

/where serial killers and rapists lurk
 
2014-07-17 01:34:59 PM  

CeroX: SewerSquirrels: sassing, running

because sassing and running are tantamount to pulling a weapon right? ESPECIALLY if it's a woman under 150lbs... Those biatches are dangerous! Need to beat them til they go limp so they learn their damn place!

How's about we start firing and locking up cops that abuse their position of authority... Stomping a mudhole in a 100lb girl for running is a gross abuse of power.

Chase? Tackle? Handcuff?  Sure, ok... they might get some bruises for that, but you can't tell me that an unarmed 100lb teenage girl is such a threat that custody is no longer an option, they need to hospitalize her...

fark them, and I hope they get shiatcanned, their wives leave them, they can't get another job, and they have to live in the ghetto right along with the people they like to harass...


Considering the state of the town budget as someone earlier indicated with the size of the town, jobs being scarce resulting in less profit for anything relying on customers, etc.  A lot of them probably already are living in a run down area.
 
2014-07-17 01:35:18 PM  

dstrick44: Snarfangel: cwolf20: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

I do wonder why they didn't tackle and hospitalize her friends she was with.

I blame laziness.

They were making an example.
All those girls learned their lesson well.
Never have any contact with police at all. Ever. For any reason. Cops will pull a hospital job on you for any reason they can think of.



It could have been worse.  When I saw the headline involving "police" and "cheerleader" and a late hour, I assumed she was raped before I read the article.
 
2014-07-17 01:35:31 PM  
Merceedez is one of my favorite geermun car brands.
I also like BMUU, Poorshuh, and Owdie.

also LOL at "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl1. And I didn't have anything on me2. I was just trying to walk away from the situation3,"

1: females are often criminals too
2: they had no way of knowing that (but you gave them reason to suspect you did because of 3 below)
3: this is called resisting arrest... it makes cops mad.
 
2014-07-17 01:35:44 PM  

Rincewind53: Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.

Nah, the real lesson she learned is not to walk outside while black.

You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.


Sure. Because obviously if a white teen runs from a police stop and then resists arrest, the cops just laugh it off and let him go. Everyone knows it's true, right?
Right?

/stop fabricating "racism"
 
2014-07-17 01:35:46 PM  
"I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl."

Equality isn't something you turn on and off when it benefits you.
 
2014-07-17 01:35:53 PM  

JackieRabbit: "Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered."

What you "believe" and what is going to happen to you when you run from the police and then resist aren't even in the same universe, honey. But now you know.


There are still American youth who don't understand that there is no difference between someone wearing a police uniform and a criminal. They both will run up on you in the night and attack you without provocation. It's a shame their parents raised them this way, but they'll learn soon enough not to be surprised when their assailant is wearing a uniform.
 
2014-07-17 01:36:51 PM  

WanPhat: soupafi: Maybe she shouldn't of ran from the cops. They kind of frown upon that.

Seems like she had good reason to.


And it's a natural instinct..
 
2014-07-17 01:37:20 PM  

pedrop357: Barely 1 out of 3.  The German proposal apparently went nowhere and the one in Paris was aimed at everyone and all businesses to stop 'lawlessness'.


Oh, I didn't realize it only had to apply to teens

How about Italy?

http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/ellis_county/italy-council-adopts-c ur few-for-teens/article_19cce600-eddc-528f-bedd-f91bb32c1206.html

or Iceland or the UK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curfew#Iceland

I'll skip countries like Thailand and Egypt since those curfews are sort of coup related.

You'll probably say this one in Brazil doesn't count either because of the werewolf

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/19/werewolf-footage-night-ti me -curfew-terrified-brazilian-residents-video_n_4814741.html

The point is it's incorrect to say that the US is the only place in the world that has curfew laws.  I've never lived anywhere that had a curfew and I've moved around a bit.
 
2014-07-17 01:38:06 PM  

Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.


If the people of the town knew how to behave themselves, they wouldnt need a curfew. If you arent going to act human, then dont expect to be treated as such.
 
2014-07-17 01:38:25 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: I understand she sustained most of the injuries when they tackled her in the rocky road.



That was cold. But delicious.
www.browneyedbaker.com
 
2014-07-17 01:38:36 PM  

genner: parahaps: genner: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

Except she was fighting and admitted it.

But okay, benefit of the doubt here. The story in the article is all full of contradictions, so it's not like this is accurate... But benefit of the doubt.

A man leaps out of a car (even a cop car) and starts charging at you. Do you stand there or do you start backing away?

You have been tackled by a police man for walking away from him. He is grinding your face into the pavement. Do you go limp and comply with whatever injury (however minor) is being inflicted, or do you reflexively try to get your arms free to protect yourself?

He didn't leap out of the car and charge her. They talked to her first and attempted to detain her. She then decided to she wanted to "walk away from the situation"., her words.


No, the officers stopped the group while staying in the car and then talked to them as a group.

When the group realized they had to go back to the ice cream shop to pick up something they left, and nothing was happening, she walked away, and didn't stop. THEN the officers got out of the car, and chased and tackled her.
 
2014-07-17 01:38:38 PM  

strathmeyer: There are still American youth who don't understand that there is no difference between someone wearing a police uniform and a criminal.


No, there's a big difference: the criminals have to be afraid of police, courts, and prison.  The police don't need to fear repercussions.
 
2014-07-17 01:38:48 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.

Dumb names aren't a race. I'm sure there's a variant for schools filled with thirty spellings for "Madison," but I'm saving that bit for a thread about a white girl with a dumb name.


I'm sure you thought your use of 'attractive and successful" was quite clever.
Hint...it wasn't.
 
2014-07-17 01:39:31 PM  

LemSkroob: Tigger: There should be no such thing as a farking curfew at all.

If the people of the town knew how to behave themselves, they wouldnt need a curfew. If you arent going to act human, then dont expect to be treated as such.


How do all the law-abiding teens make the small remainder behave?  Should we hold adults, elderly, women, men, black people, hispanic people, etc. to this standard?
 
2014-07-17 01:39:41 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: She has learned a valuable lesson.  The police are filthy animals that have a license to beat the crap out of you whenever they feel like it.

She'll take this lesson to heart.


She disrespected their authority AND made them physically exert themselves. The whooping was a forgone conclusion.
 
2014-07-17 01:40:49 PM  
If this were a blonde haired, blue eyed young woman there would be far more outrage -- this thread included. Just sayin'
 
2014-07-17 01:41:00 PM  
The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.


If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.
 
2014-07-17 01:42:10 PM  
"Running from officers" seems like a sensible thing to do now that so many of them are violent, vicious, psychopaths.

I honestly wish no happiness, peace or comfort for any cop. I hope they end up living in a constant mental anguish blossoming out of the "threat assessment" mindset that they drill into themselves.
 
2014-07-17 01:42:30 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.


When police administer a beating 99% of the time they claim resisting.

Recent video seem to indicate that breathing can be considered resisting.
 
2014-07-17 01:43:37 PM  

INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.


If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.


Deserved it? No more than most people deserve the beatings police dish out. The thing is, I want to be outraged. But they didn't kill her, and it wasn't the wrong address on a no-knock raid. What happened to her was outrageous, but lately the police are doing so many worse things that it seems like there's just no outrage left.
 
2014-07-17 01:44:35 PM  

Jument: She ran from the cops. No good will come of that, ever. They are going to have to stop you and there's no way to stop someone from running away that doesn't involve some level of bodily harm.

Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?


You run from Agents unless you start to believe
 
2014-07-17 01:44:54 PM  

question_dj: Recoil Therapy: Rincewind53: You think this would have happened to white kids? Hellllll no.

It really would depend on the part of town that they were in.  The girls admitted to breaking curfew, giving the police some attitude, running away & fighting back when caught.  The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice regardless of color (perhaps not to the extent that they did here though).  In a neighborhood filled with expensive houses, expensive cars & doctors & lawyers living there, no the police would have been much more gentle.  However I can think of a neighborhood around here (95% white) where the girls there would be beat on just as much for doing the same as these did.  Of course that neighborhood is filled with meth heads, junkies, welfare queens & just pure white trash.

It's economics not race that determines much of the police actions these days. Can daddy afford a lawyer is one of the first things that they ask themselves before the street justice comes into play

Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.


Once you run from the police, it is on. I don't care who are or where you come from. Running from the cops is the quickest way to get tackled and manhandled. Her face looked fine, so it isn't like she got beat up, she just lost a wrestling match with a cop.

Next time, just try saying "yes sir" and "no sir" that will keep you from getting your ass kick. Though this kid appears to be an idiot and should be a lesson well learned.
 
2014-07-17 01:45:07 PM  

INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.


If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.


It is racism, because white people never catch a beating for resisting arrest...

http://www.actionnews17.com/news/all/artmid/494/articleid/11491/hamm on d-man-charged-with-alleged-beating-resisting-arrest
 
2014-07-17 01:45:20 PM  
I'm just here to see some pictures of what a cheerleader might look like.  Any suggestions?
 
2014-07-17 01:45:22 PM  
Sounds like typical police state procedure.
 
2014-07-17 01:45:23 PM  

INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.

If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.


Meh, I suspect that most of the people advocating for her beating would also be cheering if it was a blonde-haired blue-eyed girl getting put in the hospital.  A depressingly large number of people like to see a good beating delivered by authority figures.  If cops picked some random person on the sidewalk and beat the crap out of him/her for no reason, there'd still be an element on Fark who would find reasons why he/she deserved exactly what they got.
 
2014-07-17 01:45:39 PM  

pedrop357: rumpelstiltskin: Instead, the curfews came about because teens would constantly disrupt entertainment districts, week after week after week, and the police got tired of hauling them off to the station so their parents could pick them up. And the parents got tired of complaining that their precious little jewels were just bystanders and never caused anyone any trouble. So we have curfews, and the curfews work.

What happened to enforcing laws like disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace against those actually causing problems while leaving alone those doing nothing wrong?

A lot of law could "work" if they were lazily constructed and broadly applied.


Here's a video which may explain the scope of the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2W_EbIN9o">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=Y_2W_EbIN9o

We aren't talking about Opie getting his hands on Pa's jug and TP'ing Aunt Bea's house one night. That's not what led to curfews.
 
2014-07-17 01:47:50 PM  

SpectroBoy: scottydoesntknow: I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.

When police administer a beating 99% of the time they claim resisting.

Recent video seem to indicate that breathing can be considered resisting.


That's a good point.

I have had several encounters with cops in my life. Since I have been respectful and compliant they have never had to chase me. Since they have never had to chase me I have never been tackled by them and have never been accused of resisting arrest.

Cops are scum but running from them gives them the opportunity to put you in a position where their claim that you were resisting will be taken as gospel truth.
 
2014-07-17 01:48:14 PM  

untaken_name: INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.


If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.

Deserved it? No more than most people deserve the beatings police dish out. The thing is, I want to be outraged. But they didn't kill her, and it wasn't the wrong address on a no-knock raid. What happened to her was outrageous, but lately the police are doing so many worse things that it seems like there's just no outrage left.


Fark needs a "dusty"/sad button.
 
2014-07-17 01:48:42 PM  

Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.

Dumb names aren't a race. I'm sure there's a variant for schools filled with thirty spellings for "Madison," but I'm saving that bit for a thread about a white girl with a dumb name.

I'm sure you thought your use of 'attractive and successful" was quite clever.
Hint...it wasn't.


You'll get over it.
 
2014-07-17 01:49:27 PM  

gfid: pedrop357: Barely 1 out of 3.  The German proposal apparently went nowhere and the one in Paris was aimed at everyone and all businesses to stop 'lawlessness'.

Oh, I didn't realize it only had to apply to teens

How about Italy?

http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/ellis_county/italy-council-adopts-c ur few-for-teens/article_19cce600-eddc-528f-bedd-f91bb32c1206.html

or Iceland or the UK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curfew#Iceland

I'll skip countries like Thailand and Egypt since those curfews are sort of coup related.

You'll probably say this one in Brazil doesn't count either because of the werewolf

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/19/werewolf-footage-night-ti me -curfew-terrified-brazilian-residents-video_n_4814741.html

The point is it's incorrect to say that the US is the only place in the world that has curfew laws.  I've never lived anywhere that had a curfew and I've moved around a bit.


You're not really reading what you're posting, are you?

UK:
On appeal the court of appeal held that the act gave police powers to escort minors home only if they are involved in, or at risk from, actual or imminently anticipated bad behaviour.

The article regarding Italy involves the CITY of Italy in ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS.

I'll slightly walkback my argument:
Curfews applied to juveniles are almost entirely American and exist in very few countries in the world.
 
2014-07-17 01:51:51 PM  

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2014-07-17 01:52:08 PM  
I'm pretty knee-jerk anti cop on most every similar thread. But given these facts, it seems they did exactly what you would expect cops to do. Try not running away next time.
 
2014-07-17 01:52:37 PM  

moeburn: Capo Del Bandito: moeburn: So if you run, you should expect to get beat? I mean maybe grabbed and arrested, sure, but they continued to beat her after she was already pinned and in their grasp.

Ok dunno how many real life 'altercations' you've been in, but that isn't exactly a moment to 'stop and analyze the whole situation'. If the cops have stopped you and you try to leave, and then take off running, yes you will be tackled, face in the dirt, cuffed and hauled off like a hogtied animal.

I've been in literally the exact same situation as this girl.  Couple of cops saw me run a red light when I was on my bike (well, more like treat a red light like a stop sign, safely, at 4AM).  I had headphones on (again, at night here), so apparently I didn't hear them yelling at me.  Next thing I know, cop car slams into my bike and tries to run me over.  Cop jumps out of car and proceeds to bash my head into metal door, denting their car.

There was no violent crime in the neighbourhood.  They weren't looking for a criminal.  They were looking to "teach a punk a lesson".  You condone that?


So basically, these officers you met are likely to assault any deaf people they meet.  I SAID THEY ARE LIKELY TO ASSAULT ANY DEAF PEOPLE THEY MEET!!!
 
2014-07-17 01:53:17 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.


Yet another person who thinks it's wrong to defend yourself from a beating.
 
2014-07-17 01:53:48 PM  

El Dudereno: neongoats: Whoa curfew violation, that surely requires physical intervention!

/cops are terrorists
//soon cops will be planting ied's to surprise apprehend suspects
/cops are terrorists

Maybe not IEDs, but IADs.
Improvised apprehension devices. Snares, pits, nets... that sort of thing.
Could be hilarious. Dude's running from the cops and all of a sudden he's hoisted by the ankle into a tree.


Haha, they already have those.  Their called "toys" or "props" or "throw downs".  Or, as you have brilliantly named them, IADs.  They're things like a dime bag or a .22 snub nose.  You throw it on the ground next to the perp, and the next thing you know the perp is up on drug or weapons charges.

As far as curfews?  Had one growing up in my hometown.  Never really affected me, my Dad's house was way out in the middle of the friggin' woods.  I could've danced a tribal rain dance while buck naked eating an Eskimo Pie, and no one would've been the wiser.  The town fathers (at the nagging of the town mothers) instituted curfew because it forced the kids to go home after work.  It gave some of the older village cops an excuse to stay on the payroll long after they'd gone senile.

Also, you could legally beat the crap out of some black man from NYC if he made the mistake of staying overnight here and wanted to walk over to the local bar and grill to have a beer.
 
2014-07-17 01:54:58 PM  
That neck brace SCREAMS "BULLshiat".
 
2014-07-17 01:55:17 PM  
Almost three hundred posts and no cheerleader pics?
 
2014-07-17 01:55:26 PM  

Diocletian's Last Cabbage: Haha, they already have those. Their called "toys" or "props" or "throw downs". Or, as you have brilliantly named them, IADs.


AKA "sprinkling some crack on them".
 
2014-07-17 01:55:45 PM  

Mr.Poops: If this were a blonde haired, blue eyed young woman there would be far more outrage -- this thread included. Just sayin'


I am not sure what the hell youre talking about. 90% of this thread is people screaming "OMG EVERYONE IS RACIST <insert>FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT</insert>!!!"

Including yourself.

/On a side note dont run from cops.
//If you do run and they catch you, dont fight with them.
 
2014-07-17 01:55:59 PM  

fredklein: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

Yet another person who thinks it's wrong to defend yourself from a beating.


Yet another person who thinks running from the cops doesn;t open you up to said beating.

DONT. RUN. FROM. THE. COPS.
 
2014-07-17 01:56:09 PM  

untaken_name: INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.


If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.

Deserved it? No more than most people deserve the beatings police dish out. The thing is, I want to be outraged. But they didn't kill her, and it wasn't the wrong address on a no-knock raid. What happened to her was outrageous, but lately the police are doing so many worse things that it seems like there's just no outrage left.


"I want to be outraged" -- says a lot...

You run from the cops, they're going to chase you. The purpose of that pursuit is to apprehend you. Once/if they catch up to you, they are going to physically intervene to stop you from running, that might be a little painful..

If you try to interfere with that intervening process, it might be a little more painful..

Nobody got shot, nobody got seriously injured...

Curfew violation at 10:05, is that a little heavy handed? Yah sure... But I'm not seeing the case for a lot of indignant liberal outrage here.. I'm just not..
 
2014-07-17 01:56:34 PM  
Either a lot of people didn't RTFA or somehow missed the part where the 'victim' admitted to actively fighting with the cops after being tackled.
 
2014-07-17 01:57:28 PM  
If the cops are looking at you, you can bet your ass they're trying to think of a reason to assault and/or kill you.  Stay the fark away from them.  If they say anything to you, even "hi", drop to your stomach, splay your hands and legs out and prey that they shoot you first and then kick your corpse to a pulp.
 
2014-07-17 01:57:37 PM  

dforkus: Nobody got shot, nobody got seriously injured...


Try that argument when you get in a bar fight. Oh, right, it won't hold any legal water whatsoever. Unless you're a cop.
 
2014-07-17 01:58:58 PM  

doubled99: I'm pretty knee-jerk anti cop on most every similar thread. But given these facts, it seems they did exactly what you would expect cops to do. Try not running away next time.


In most developed countries you would not expect the police to escalate a situation like this or beat someone up when they could easily restrain them, but then in most developed countries you don't expect the police to kill around 500 people each year either.
 
2014-07-17 01:58:59 PM  
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2014-07-17 01:59:08 PM  

jshine: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: How many kids does Merceedez have and are they named after cars too? (I bet they are...)

Actually the car was named after a girl, not the other way around.  It's been a name for a very long time.

/ ever read the Count of Monte Cristo?



Oh really? So you;re saying that she was named after a character in the Count of Monte Cristo? Not the car?
 
2014-07-17 02:00:02 PM  
Obviously this would get plenty of support from farkers, beating up women is no problem for them, as many of them went to the Elliot Rodger Institute of Men's Rights.
 
2014-07-17 02:00:25 PM  

Waldo Pepper: jshine: INeedAName: The amount of closet racism in this thread is depressing.

If you all just want to say she deserved it for getting 'uppity' and thinking she had a right to not be beaten so severely she needed to go the hospital, it would make finding the right people to ignore much easier.

Good thing she wasn't sitting at the wrong lunch counter or anything.

Meh, I suspect that most of the people advocating for her beating would also be cheering if it was a blonde-haired blue-eyed girl getting put in the hospital.  A depressingly large number of people like to see a good beating delivered by authority figures.  If cops picked some random person on the sidewalk and beat the crap out of him/her for no reason, there'd still be an element on Fark who would find reasons why he/she deserved exactly what they got.

I don't most folks on her are advocating for her beating. I believe most folks on here are saying it is to be expected once you run from the police.  At that age I knew not to run from the cops, you could run from an adult but not the cops. I guarantee if in the same situation if I ran from the cops I would get the same treatment.  

I do hope there is a video that gives an accurate showing of what happened and if the cops are guilty fire them and if she is guilty have her apologize and doing some community service with the police.


...so, excessive violence is acceptable if it's uniformly applied?
 
2014-07-17 02:00:30 PM  

Recoil Therapy: It's economics not race that determines much of the police actions these days

.

I think that is true in general. I don't think the right-wing is any more extreme because Obama is black. They were damn near as crazy with Clinton and that was before the Tea Party dragged them way to the right.

Economic class is the new race. If you have money, you can get justice. If you are poor, go fark yourserlf.
 
2014-07-17 02:00:55 PM  
Lots of people here who didn't read the article (what?! On fark? Can't be!)

The cop jumped out of the car aggressively. She instinctively reacted to that by retreating. The cops considered this 'fleeing', and tackled her. She 'struggled' against the cops, who were damaging her throat/neck (according to the type of injuries she had). This is completely natural. The cops call struggling to breathe 'resisting'.

Same ol' same ol'.
 
2014-07-17 02:01:03 PM  

Target Builder: doubled99: I'm pretty knee-jerk anti cop on most every similar thread. But given these facts, it seems they did exactly what you would expect cops to do. Try not running away next time.

In most developed countries you would not expect the police to escalate a situation like this



She escalated the situation.
 
2014-07-17 02:02:11 PM  

moeburn: Maud Dib: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

Wow, I see the Fark Racist Brigade has shown up.

Coincidentally, I went to an inner-city school, and there were two black girls in my class with the name "unique".  One was spelled with a U, and one with a Y.


images.wikia.com
 
2014-07-17 02:02:13 PM  

GameSprocket: Economic class is the new race. If you have money, you can get justice. If you are poor, go fark yourserlf.


Not to be Debbie Downer, but that's been true for approximately as long as humans have been rich and/or poor.
 
2014-07-17 02:02:29 PM  

fredklein: Lots of people here who didn't read the article (what?! On fark? Can't be!)

The cop jumped out of the car aggressively. She instinctively reacted to that by retreating. The cops considered this 'fleeing', and tackled her. She 'struggled' against the cops, who were damaging her throat/neck (according to the type of injuries she had). This is completely natural. The cops call struggling to breathe 'resisting'.

Same ol' same ol'.


Why did he do that? This part is key.
 
2014-07-17 02:03:34 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: Merceedez is one of my favorite geermun car brands.
I also like BMUU, Poorshuh, and Owdie.

also LOL at "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl1. And I didn't have anything on me2. I was just trying to walk away from the situation3,"

1: females are often criminals too
2: they had no way of knowing that (but you gave them reason to suspect you did because of 3 below)
3: this is called resisting arrest... it makes cops mad.


She was literally walking away from two cops talking to a group from their car, otherwise doing nothing.

 Nobody was "detained" until she started walking away.
She kept walking, looked back to see why Destiny wasn't following her to the shop like she thought, and sees two grown men twice her size leap out of their vehicles, and start pell-mell chasing her down.

Would you run? Or would you stop, and get clothes lined, and then beaten?

I would like to think I would run and go lie down on the grass next to the road and say things like "Whoa! What's going on now?" and then be put under arrest, hopefully minimizing the damage to things like my throat and tracheae, but I can't really say I'm that mindful all the time.
 
2014-07-17 02:03:56 PM  

BizarroHulk: Almost three hundred posts and no cheerleader pics?


I posted one and it got deleted for some reason.
 
2014-07-17 02:03:58 PM  

jst3p: Why did he do that?


based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl
 
2014-07-17 02:04:18 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: jshine: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: How many kids does Merceedez have and are they named after cars too? (I bet they are...)

Actually the car was named after a girl, not the other way around.  It's been a name for a very long time.

/ ever read the Count of Monte Cristo?

Oh really? So you;re saying that she was named after a character in the Count of Monte Cristo? Not the car?


...and the character Mercedes in the Count of Monte Cristo was based on a name that was already extant at that time -- Dumas didn't make it up.  Mercedes the car was named after Mercedes Jellinek, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Jellinek .  It's been in circulation for a very long time.
 
2014-07-17 02:04:47 PM  
Anyone who runs, is a VC, anyone one who doesn't run...


farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2014-07-17 02:04:47 PM  
Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

hah.. call obama and complain.
 
2014-07-17 02:06:45 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Why did he do that?

based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl


Fair enough. According to her account it was because she just decided to walk away from the police while they were talking to her. I bet when we hear the cops account it will include the fact that he verbally instructed her to stop several times. Even if the truth is halfway between those two she made a bad decision.
 
2014-07-17 02:07:09 PM  
My brother-in-law had almost the same situation happen to him.  He's mixed Black & White, but looks like a light-complected Black guy.

He ran.

He resisted.

He got his ass beat.

What was his dad's reaction when called by the police?  "Good, if he did that, he's a farking moron...what's wrong with him?  Let him sit there in jail for a while and think about what he did."

His mom's reaction?  "OMG...I'VE GOT TO RUN AND BAIL OUT MY BABY!!!  My poor baby!!!"
 
2014-07-17 02:07:47 PM  
She's lucky she wasn't carrying skittles.
 
2014-07-17 02:08:08 PM  

SpectroBoy: scottydoesntknow: I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.

When police administer a beating 99% of the time they claim resisting.

Recent video seem to indicate that breathing can be considered resisting.



Since the popularity of camera phones and youtube we have seen an undeniable pattern of systemic and flagrant abuse by police.

There are thousands of videos showing the systemic and flagrant abuse and next to nothing is done about it.
 
2014-07-17 02:09:04 PM  

8 inches: BizarroHulk: Almost three hundred posts and no cheerleader pics?

I posted one and it got deleted for some reason.


261095.medialib.glogster.com
What Fark may be like...
 
2014-07-17 02:09:08 PM  
If this is what happens to Wright in that neighbourhood, I don't want to be Wrong
 
2014-07-17 02:09:43 PM  

jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Why did he do that?

based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl

Fair enough. According to her account it was because she just decided to walk away from the police while they were talking to her. I bet when we hear the cops account it will include the fact that he verbally instructed her to stop several times. Even if the truth is halfway between those two she made a bad decision.


Just like if she was victimized by another group of thugs it was more about bad luck than bad decision, if these thugs never happened to drive by she would have not had her throat stomped on.
 
2014-07-17 02:10:49 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Can daddy afford a lawyer is one of the first things that they ask themselves before the street justice comes into play


Ding.

Click Click D'oh: Now go be a parent and teach your child not to run from and fight the police.


Dong.
 
2014-07-17 02:10:52 PM  

SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.


It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.
 
2014-07-17 02:12:29 PM  

EggSniper: If the cops are looking at you, you can bet your ass they're trying to think of a reason to assault and/or kill you.  Stay the fark away from them.  If they say anything to you, even "hi", drop to your stomach, splay your hands and legs out and prey that they shoot you first and then kick your corpse to a pulp.


You could always know your rights which shuts them down mighty fast. Or, people could go with your idea and act like a retarded paranoid schizophrenic.
 
2014-07-17 02:12:36 PM  

Recoil Therapy: The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice


No they weren't.  They never are.  No one was served or protected by this thug's actions or the non-action of his abettors.

I don't get to do my job incorrectly and keep it.  They shouldn't either.
 
2014-07-17 02:13:10 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: DONT. RUN. FROM. THE. COPS.


...CITIZEN.  YOU HAVE 3 SECONDS TO COMPLY.

...CITIZEN.  YOU HAVE 2 SECONDS TO COMPLY.
 
2014-07-17 02:13:24 PM  

I alone am best: You could always know your rights which shuts them down mighty fast.


Yea, nothing shuts a cop up faster than "I know my rights!".
 
2014-07-17 02:13:41 PM  

regornam: monoski: jankyboy: Pocket Ninja: Merceedez  Wright

How could her parents possibly fark that up? The correct spelling is right there on the car.

The problem is their car reads Port Authority...

[trustarts-prod.s3.amazonaws.com image 580x241]

Yeah! Cause scary black folks ride the bus! Yeee-hah!

My god you kids today are dumb. And scared all the time I guess. How's it feel to be scared all the time of the black folk? Must suck.


More just gross Fark humor. I used to live at 5th and Girard in Philly and really have no fear of being around black people.
 
2014-07-17 02:13:48 PM  
Freedom isn't free.
 
2014-07-17 02:13:56 PM  

jst3p: Why did he do that?


Because he's aggressive?  Fits the profile perfectly (and I work closely with several police departments).
 
2014-07-17 02:14:06 PM  

Egoy3k: SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.


Yeah, but I'm sorry...fighting the cops is TOTAL justification.  BTW, if she'd been BEATEN it would have likely turned out much worse.  She picked a fight with bigger, stronger, more experienced fighters.  I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, and I wouldn't dream of fighting back against police trying to cuff me.
 
2014-07-17 02:15:10 PM  

Recoil Therapy: The police were justified here in giving out a very minor amount of street justice


"Justice" does not work that way.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-07-17 02:15:42 PM  
Where's Peter Petrelli when you need him?
 
2014-07-17 02:15:44 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Why did he do that?

based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl

Fair enough. According to her account it was because she just decided to walk away from the police while they were talking to her. I bet when we hear the cops account it will include the fact that he verbally instructed her to stop several times. Even if the truth is halfway between those two she made a bad decision.

Just like if she was victimized by another group of thugs it was more about bad luck than bad decision, if these thugs never happened to drive by she would have not had her throat stomped on.


Nope, running from cops is not bad luck, it is a bad decision. She owns it.
 
2014-07-17 02:15:56 PM  

JRoo: Freedom isn't free.


www.texasdude.com
 
2014-07-17 02:16:10 PM  

SubBass49: Egoy3k: SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.

Yeah, but I'm sorry...fighting the cops is TOTAL justification.  BTW, if she'd been BEATEN it would have likely turned out much worse.  She picked a fight with bigger, stronger, more experienced fighters.  I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, and I wouldn't dream of fighting back against police trying to cuff me.


That's nice and all man, but what the everloving fark does it have to do with my post?

You just wanted to humblebrag your imaginary physical stature didn't you fatty?
 
2014-07-17 02:18:25 PM  
Tell you all what.
She's 17.
If someone poked her, that would be a felony. The perp would be on the SOR list for life.

But they didn't fark her.
they only beat the living shait out of her so no harm no foul.

Big, Brave pigs.
So proud of their service to mankind and all they oversee.
 
2014-07-17 02:20:24 PM  
 
2014-07-17 02:20:58 PM  

SubBass49: Egoy3k: SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.

Yeah, but I'm sorry...fighting the cops is TOTAL justification.  BTW, if she'd been BEATEN it would have likely turned out much worse.  She picked a fight with bigger, stronger, more experienced fighters.  I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, and I wouldn't dream of fighting back against police trying to cuff me.


Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.


If she had been able to do that, she should have just started laughing any time they hit her.
*thwack*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*thwack*
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Nothing more disturbing and unsettling to your assailant, really.
 
2014-07-17 02:21:24 PM  

vudukungfu: Tell you all what.
She's 17.
If someone poked her, that would be a felony. The perp would be on the SOR list for life.

But they didn't fark her.
they only beat the living shait out of her so no harm no foul.

Big, Brave pigs.
So proud of their service to mankind and all they oversee.


Age of consent for Pennsylvania is 16.
 
2014-07-17 02:21:48 PM  

tlars699: The_Original_Roxtar: Merceedez is one of my favorite geermun car brands.
I also like BMUU, Poorshuh, and Owdie.

also LOL at "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl1. And I didn't have anything on me2. I was just trying to walk away from the situation3,"

1: females are often criminals too
2: they had no way of knowing that (but you gave them reason to suspect you did because of 3 below)
3: this is called resisting arrest... it makes cops mad.

She was literally walking away from two cops talking to a group from their car, otherwise doing nothing.

 Nobody was "detained" until she started walking away.
She kept walking, looked back to see why Destiny wasn't following her to the shop like she thought, and sees two grown men twice her size leap out of their vehicles, and start pell-mell chasing her down.

Would you run? Or would you stop, and get clothes lined, and then beaten?

I would like to think I would run and go lie down on the grass next to the road and say things like "Whoa! What's going on now?" and then be put under arrest, hopefully minimizing the damage to things like my throat and tracheae, but I can't really say I'm that mindful all the time.


If it's past curfew (which is a reasonable law in many locations) and the police stop you, you are legally under arrest at that point and don't have the right to "walk away" whenever you please, especially when the cops are talking to you about said curfew violation.

The details are sparse and one-sided here, of course, but the girl admits to walking/running away _BEFORE_ the police chased after her, which means she was almost certainly ignoring a lawful command and that means they've now got reason to physically stop/arrest you. The line about "the cop got out of the car in such a way that I was sooooo scared I had to run" is horseshiat - don't farking walk away in the first place and the worst you'd have received is a ride home and possibly a ticket.

Did the police go too far in the physical altercation? Well, that depends on whether or not you 1.) believe she was innocently "defending" herself from ruthless thugs or 2.) infer from her previous disregard for law and respect of others that she probably decided she wasn't going to take her detainment/arrest lying down and fought the police a little more than "freeing my arms to defend myself."

But hey, the Fark Cop-Hate Brigade™ ignores the fact that she was almost assuredly being a rude twunt and trying to leave a lawful detainment which got her chased down and resulted in a fight when she decided she didn't have to take that.
 
2014-07-17 02:21:52 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."


In one class two years ago I had a Kaylie, Kalee, Halie,and Hayleigh.
Seriously, in one class of 36 kids.  The stupid is on both sides of the racial divide.
 
2014-07-17 02:23:04 PM  

jst3p: Age of consent for Pennsylvania is 16.


I always made them wait until 19 when I lived there.
 
2014-07-17 02:23:14 PM  

tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.


All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.
 
gja
2014-07-17 02:23:18 PM  

give me doughnuts: gja: Rincewind53: vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.

Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.

Fun fact....you are wrong.

Misdeamenors are generally those offenses with a sentence of less than one year.
A violation of a municipal ordinance usually incurs a fine, much like a parking ticket.


::AHEM::, and I quote "....meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket."
Police CAN arrest you for misdemeanors. This is a well documented fact.

'Like' a parking ticket is a gross over-generalization. Law matters, even if police ignore much of it.
 
2014-07-17 02:24:01 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: I'm sure there's a variant for schools filled with thirty spellings for "Madison,"


You mean Mattisen?
 
2014-07-17 02:25:11 PM  

vudukungfu: Jaden Smith First of His Name: I'm sure there's a variant for schools filled with thirty spellings for "Madison,"

You mean Mattisen?


MaddySyn?
 
2014-07-17 02:25:44 PM  

jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Why did he do that?

based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl

Fair enough. According to her account it was because she just decided to walk away from the police while they were talking to her. I bet when we hear the cops account it will include the fact that he verbally instructed her to stop several times. Even if the truth is halfway between those two she made a bad decision.

Just like if she was victimized by another group of thugs it was more about bad luck than bad decision, if these thugs never happened to drive by she would have not had her throat stomped on.

Nope, running from cops is not bad luck, it is a bad decision. She owns it.


similar to how running from someone who is just trying to mug you or running from a bear or is probably a bad decision  but understandable in a panic scenario. You're essentially blaming the victim for not keeping her cool while being victimized.
 
2014-07-17 02:26:27 PM  

slotz: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

In one class two years ago I had a Kaylie, Kalee, Halie,and Hayleigh.
Seriously, in one class of 36 kids.  The stupid is on both sides of the racial divide.


Meh, as more people fill up this world of ours, it's not unusual for people to want have their children stand out. I can't tell you how many Katherines I have in my office right now but it's farking annoying trying to get shiat done in meetings. So it's Kate, Katie, Kat, K, Katherine, Katty, etc.
 
2014-07-17 02:26:38 PM  

Headso: similar to how running from someone who is just trying to mug you or running from a bear or is probably a bad decision  but understandable in a panic scenario. You're essentially blaming the victim for not keeping her cool while being victimized.


You have an interesting definition of victimization...
 
2014-07-17 02:27:25 PM  

Perpetuous Procrastination: tlars699: The_Original_Roxtar: Merceedez is one of my favorite geermun car brands.
I also like BMUU, Poorshuh, and Owdie.

also LOL at "I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl1. And I didn't have anything on me2. I was just trying to walk away from the situation3,"

1: females are often criminals too
2: they had no way of knowing that (but you gave them reason to suspect you did because of 3 below)
3: this is called resisting arrest... it makes cops mad.

She was literally walking away from two cops talking to a group from their car, otherwise doing nothing.

 Nobody was "detained" until she started walking away.
She kept walking, looked back to see why Destiny wasn't following her to the shop like she thought, and sees two grown men twice her size leap out of their vehicles, and start pell-mell chasing her down.

Would you run? Or would you stop, and get clothes lined, and then beaten?

I would like to think I would run and go lie down on the grass next to the road and say things like "Whoa! What's going on now?" and then be put under arrest, hopefully minimizing the damage to things like my throat and tracheae, but I can't really say I'm that mindful all the time.

If it's past curfew (which is a reasonable law in many locations) and the police stop you, you are legally under arrest at that point and don't have the right to "walk away" whenever you please, especially when the cops are talking to you about said curfew violation.

The details are sparse and one-sided here, of course, but the girl admits to walking/running away _BEFORE_ the police chased after her, which means she was almost certainly ignoring a lawful command and that means they've now got reason to physically stop/arrest you. The line about "the cop got out of the car in such a way that I was sooooo scared I had to run" is horseshiat - don't farking walk away in the first place and the worst you'd have received is a ride home and possibly a ticket.

Did the police go too far in t ...


You're not under arrest until the police have said: You are under arrest.
It's the first part of Miranda Rights that they are supposed to read to you as you are being arrested, and if she walked after they had started reciting that- okay- maybe she would then be classified as resisting.

If she walked away before that, or had mentioned that she needed to go to the shop and pick up her bag/phone, and was then chased down, that is not resisting arrest.

There can be no resisting a command if there was no command given.
 
2014-07-17 02:28:44 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: fredklein: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

Yet another person who thinks it's wrong to defend yourself from a beating.

Yet another person who thinks running from the cops doesn;t open you up to said beating.

DONT. RUN. FROM. THE. COPS.


Sigh.

She didn't run, she retreated when the cop came charging out of the car at her. This is an instinct, like startling when someone sneaks up behind you and yells 'boo!'. You body does it without you thinking to do it.

Second, even if she ran, it does NOT give the cops permission to beat her. Will they? Maybe. But they should be held responsible if caught.
 
2014-07-17 02:28:45 PM  

jshine: I alone am best: You could always know your rights which shuts them down mighty fast.

Yea, nothing shuts a cop up faster than "I know my rights!".


Your real rights, not those made up rights people thing they have after they rob a corner store.

This should help you out.

https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-immigrants-rights-racial-justice / know-your-rights-what-do-if-you">https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform -immigrants-rights-racial-justice/ know-your-rights-what-do-if-you
 
2014-07-17 02:28:59 PM  

CeroX: SewerSquirrels: sassing, running

because sassing and running are tantamount to pulling a weapon right? ESPECIALLY if it's a woman under 150lbs... Those biatches are dangerous! Need to beat them til they go limp so they learn their damn place!


Don't be silly! If it was tantamount to pulling a weapon, the cops would have shot her 37 times.
 
2014-07-17 02:29:12 PM  

Derek Force: last one...

blurry twitter pic

[pbs.twimg.com image 500x375]


Damn, police went and chopped off her arms.
 
2014-07-17 02:29:22 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Why did he do that?

based on the story it was to beat up a teenage girl

Fair enough. According to her account it was because she just decided to walk away from the police while they were talking to her. I bet when we hear the cops account it will include the fact that he verbally instructed her to stop several times. Even if the truth is halfway between those two she made a bad decision.

Just like if she was victimized by another group of thugs it was more about bad luck than bad decision, if these thugs never happened to drive by she would have not had her throat stomped on.

Nope, running from cops is not bad luck, it is a bad decision. She owns it.

similar to how running from someone who is just trying to mug you or running from a bear or is probably a bad decision  but understandable in a panic scenario. You're essentially blaming the victim for not keeping her cool while being victimized.



As near as I can tell the cops were trying to talk to her as part of the group and she decided that she was done with the conversation and started to walk away from them.

When they tried to go back to pick up a bag and a phone they left behind, they claim the officers tried to detain them.
Wright said she continued walking away from the officers, who then allegedly used force to stop her.



That wasn't a decision made under the stress of a large man running at her. That was the decision of a punk kid with an attitude disrespecting the cops. That is what provoked him to jump out of his car and chase her down.
 
2014-07-17 02:30:21 PM  
A curfew? Okay...maybe. But 10pm??? Seriously: 10pm???  This time of year that's about one hour after sunset. Make it 1am if you want a curfew; let's be reasonable, here.
 
2014-07-17 02:30:33 PM  

SubBass49: Headso: similar to how running from someone who is just trying to mug you or running from a bear or is probably a bad decision  but understandable in a panic scenario. You're essentially blaming the victim for not keeping her cool while being victimized.

You have an interesting definition of victimization...


I'd say one that includes a teenage girl getting beat to the point of hospitalization isn't too extreme.
 
2014-07-17 02:30:40 PM  

fredklein: Jim from Saint Paul: fredklein: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

Yet another person who thinks it's wrong to defend yourself from a beating.

Yet another person who thinks running from the cops doesn;t open you up to said beating.

DONT. RUN. FROM. THE. COPS.

Sigh.

She didn't run, she retreated when the cop came charging out of the car at her. This is an instinct, like startling when someone sneaks up behind you and yells 'boo!'. You body does it without you thinking to do it.

Second, even if she ran, it does NOT give the cops permission to beat her. Will they? Maybe. But they should be held responsible if caught.


That isn't what happened even by her own admission:

When they tried to go back to pick up a bag and a phone they left behind, they claim the officers tried to detain them.
Wright said she continued walking away from the officers, who then allegedly used force to stop her.
 
2014-07-17 02:31:19 PM  

jst3p: fredklein: Lots of people here who didn't read the article (what?! On fark? Can't be!)

The cop jumped out of the car aggressively. She instinctively reacted to that by retreating. The cops considered this 'fleeing', and tackled her. She 'struggled' against the cops, who were damaging her throat/neck (according to the type of injuries she had). This is completely natural. The cops call struggling to breathe 'resisting'.

Same ol' same ol'.

Why did he do that? This part is key.


To tackle, kick, and beat her, evidently.
 
2014-07-17 02:31:54 PM  

tlars699: You're not under arrest until the police have said: You are under arrest.
It's the first part of Miranda Rights that they are supposed to read to you as you are being arrested, and if she walked after they had started reciting that- okay- maybe she would then be classified as resisting.


Lol, WUT?
 
2014-07-17 02:32:34 PM  

Misconduc: Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

hah.. call obama and complain.


I lol'd.  Window seat, please.
 
2014-07-17 02:32:35 PM  

I alone am best: EggSniper: If the cops are looking at you, you can bet your ass they're trying to think of a reason to assault and/or kill you.  Stay the fark away from them.  If they say anything to you, even "hi", drop to your stomach, splay your hands and legs out and prey that they shoot you first and then kick your corpse to a pulp.

You could always know your rights which shuts them down mighty fast. Or, people could go with your idea and act like a retarded paranoid schizophrenic.


You're right.  If there's one thing that will stop cops in their tracks it's telling them that you have rights.  It's also helpful to tell them you 'wasn't doin' nothin'.  Cops never lie about what happened, dash and lapel cameras and microphones never fail and exonerating evidence is never lost, destroyed or lawyered out of trial.  Oh, and rights are inalienable and absolute.

The only reason we get to hear about police abuse is that they take people to the hospital first, where they get to talk to people.  Why they haven't merged police-run emergency rooms with jails yet I don't know.
 
2014-07-17 02:32:50 PM  

Headso: SubBass49: Headso: similar to how running from someone who is just trying to mug you or running from a bear or is probably a bad decision  but understandable in a panic scenario. You're essentially blaming the victim for not keeping her cool while being victimized.

You have an interesting definition of victimization...

I'd say one that includes a teenage girl getting beat to the point of hospitalization isn't too extreme.


Funny...I see the pic from the hospital and I see no bruises on her face or arms.  Usually a "beating" by multiple people in a chaotic situation would lead to at least something visible.  More likely that her injuries were caused by her own idiocy in trying to fight the cops.  I suggest you read the article I linked with the photo of the football player above.  Should give some perspective on things here.
 
2014-07-17 02:33:12 PM  

slotz: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

In one class two years ago I had a Kaylie, Kalee, Halie,and Hayleigh.
Seriously, in one class of 36 kids.  The stupid is on both sides of the racial divide.


Several years ago I was at an Outback steakhouse and the table behind us kept trying to keep little Brittney and Shania in line.

I am guessing they are dancing for dollars about now. Well maybe in a couple hours, it is still early.
 
2014-07-17 02:33:34 PM  

tlars699: SubBass49: Egoy3k: SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.

Yeah, but I'm sorry...fighting the cops is TOTAL justification.  BTW, if she'd been BEATEN it would have likely turned out much worse.  She picked a fight with bigger, stronger, more experienced fighters.  I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, and I wouldn't dream of fighting back against police trying to cuff me.

Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.


If she had been able to do that, she should have just started laughing any time they hit her.
*thwack*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*thwack*
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Nothing more disturbing and unsettling to your assailant, really.


So, that is exactly what happened? Or are you just making crap up?
 
2014-07-17 02:33:45 PM  
Run from the cops and they'll beat you on principle.
 
2014-07-17 02:34:18 PM  
Do we know yet what race the police officers were?
 
2014-07-17 02:34:38 PM  

fredklein: Jim from Saint Paul: fredklein: Turbo Cojones: Rawhead Rex: SURPRISE!!!
When you run from cops...they chase you and tackle you!
SURPRISE!!!
When tackled by cops, you tend to get scuffed up some.

Did you somehow think they were playing "touch-apprehend"???
None of this shiat would have happened if she'd just gotten in the back of the car and got driven home.

"Wright also said she did resist officers once she was knocked to the ground. 

Yeah, pretty much stopped reading once she admitted to active resistance.

Yet another person who thinks it's wrong to defend yourself from a beating.

Yet another person who thinks running from the cops doesn;t open you up to said beating.

DONT. RUN. FROM. THE. COPS.

Sigh.

She didn't run, she retreated when the cop came charging out of the car at her. This is an instinct, like startling when someone sneaks up behind you and yells 'boo!'. You body does it without you thinking to do it.

Second, even if she ran, it does NOT give the cops permission to beat her. Will they? Maybe. But they should be held responsible if caught.


uhh She admitted she ran, how do you not understand this? She was a dumbass who RAN from the cops; all she had to do was sit there and answer a few questions;  and she would of been let off.
"WHY DID YOU RUN FROM THE POLICE?" I WAS SCARED SIR!!" Ever hear this? I guess you never watched cops then; if you are not doing anything wrong; you wouldn't run.

Dumbass ran, and got her ass busted; lucky he didn't have a K9.
 
2014-07-17 02:36:06 PM  

jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.


Techinically correct(best kind), but the police are trying to say she was resisting prior to that.

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

Also it shouldn't be expected to have your hair pulled, and your face and neck ground into pavement by police boots in order to get your hands tied down. Dislocated shoulder? Maybe.
 
2014-07-17 02:36:35 PM  
This was the first sentence my eyes went to:
"I didn't think cops would do that to me because I'm a girl. And I didn't have anything on me. I was just trying to walk away from the situation," Wright said from her room at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh of UPMC. "I was terrified. I thought I was going to be getting beaten up for hours."

I've read nothing more of the article and not see the news video, but on the strength of this paragraph alone I will theorize that the gal in this story is black.

Use of the word "situation" to describe issues with the law is a mechanism by which the speaker attempts to distance themselves from the act and downplay any culpability they might have had.  It's also a denial mechanism by which one can acknowledge that something might have gone on and speak about it without specifically offering details that might implicate themselves or others.

It's also annoying as all hell to hear.
 
2014-07-17 02:37:02 PM  

jst3p: That wasn't a decision made under the stress of a large man running at her. That was the decision of a punk kid with an attitude disrespecting the cops. That is what provoked him to jump out of his car and chase her down


This guy can't even keep a level head when a teenage girl is impudent so he chases her down and beats her to the point she has to go to the hospital and you deem that to be her fault. Look no further as to why America has roid raging military style police and the highest incarceration rates in the world, many Americans support it.
 
2014-07-17 02:37:56 PM  

scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.


A 17 year old cheerleader is such a formidable opponent that the only option available to several full-grown, armed police officers is to beat the crap out of her?
 
2014-07-17 02:38:06 PM  

tlars699: Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.


Stop making crap up.  Miranda rights only pertain to questioning and gathering of testimonial evidence.  It has nothing to do with an actual arrest.  If a police officer says "Stop", you have been legally arrested.
 
2014-07-17 02:38:13 PM  

fredklein: jst3p: fredklein: Lots of people here who didn't read the article (what?! On fark? Can't be!)

The cop jumped out of the car aggressively. She instinctively reacted to that by retreating. The cops considered this 'fleeing', and tackled her. She 'struggled' against the cops, who were damaging her throat/neck (according to the type of injuries she had). This is completely natural. The cops call struggling to breathe 'resisting'.

Same ol' same ol'.

Why did he do that? This part is key.

To tackle, kick, and beat her, evidently.


Yep, and she gave him justification, at least in the eyes of anyone who will be "investigating" this. I bet they don't even get paid leave.

Don't get me wrong, I think the cop is an asshole, but she made poor decisions that allowed him to be in a position to administer a beating that he won't be held responsible for.
 
2014-07-17 02:39:15 PM  

SubBass49: Funny...I see the pic from the hospital and I see no bruises on her face or arms.  Usually a "beating" by multiple people in a chaotic situation would lead to at least something visible.


heh, diagnoses via single image on the internet. Bill Frist is that you?
 
2014-07-17 02:40:06 PM  
gfid
and maybe Germany

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/09/us-germany-curfew-idUSBRE8 68 0M020120709


I say there's a difference between a general curfew and certain events/establishments serving alcohol having to kick out unaccompanied minors after 8pm (if yougner than 16) or midnight (under 18),
Since the girl in question is 17 and it was shortly after 10 pm, under that German "curfew" she and her friends could still have been our drinking beers in a club or bar until midnight.
Also, they could've been walking around for hours afterwards without violating anything because , again, it isn't a "kids not allowed outside" kind of curfew, but more of an additional liquor law that alcohol-serving establishments/events have to follow.
 
2014-07-17 02:40:08 PM  

tlars699: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Techinically correct(best kind), but the police are trying to say she was resisting prior to that.


If the cops say "get back here" and you don't you are resisting arrest without violence.

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

BWAHAHAHAHAH! No. Miranda needs to be read before any questioning after arrest. Not while being tackled for running away.

Also it shouldn't be expected to have your hair pulled, and your face and neck ground into pavement by police boots in order to get your hands tied down. Dislocated shoulder? Maybe.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2014-07-17 02:40:45 PM  
DON'T

*SMACK*

BREAK

*SMACK*

CURFEW!

*SMACK*

IT'S

*SMACK*

NOT SAFE

*SMACK*

OUT HERE

*SMACK*

AFTER

*SMACK*

DARK!

*SMACK* *SMACK*
 
2014-07-17 02:40:46 PM  

Headso: SubBass49: Funny...I see the pic from the hospital and I see no bruises on her face or arms.  Usually a "beating" by multiple people in a chaotic situation would lead to at least something visible.

heh, diagnoses via single image on the internet. Bill Frist is that you?


So you disagree that a beating by multiple people in a chaotic situation would likely lead to at least ONE visible injury on face or arms?  Especially since her friends claim she was being kicked?

Your reality sounds fun...do the medications help it or hurt it?
 
2014-07-17 02:42:12 PM  

gja: give me doughnuts: gja: Rincewind53: vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.

Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.

Fun fact....you are wrong.

Misdeamenors are generally those offenses with a sentence of less than one year.
A violation of a municipal ordinance usually incurs a fine, much like a parking ticket.

::AHEM::, and I quote "....meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket."
Police CAN arrest you for misdemeanors. This is a well documented fact.

'Like' a parking ticket is a gross over-generalization. Law matters, even if police ignore much of it.


Did you notice that I was agreeing with you?
Curfew violations are not misdemeanors, they are violations or infractions.
 
2014-07-17 02:42:29 PM  

Tricky Chicken: slotz: Jaden Smith First of His Name: It must be awful having to spell out your attractive and successful first name for everything. Or imagine being a teacher for an inner-city school: "Yunique, can you answer this question? No, not the Yunique with two E's. No, not you either, one that ends with a K."

In one class two years ago I had a Kaylie, Kalee, Halie,and Hayleigh.
Seriously, in one class of 36 kids.  The stupid is on both sides of the racial divide.

Several years ago I was at an Outback steakhouse and the table behind us kept trying to keep little Brittney and Shania in line.

I am guessing they are dancing for dollars about now. Well maybe in a couple hours, it is still early.


Was at a 2nd grade "come see the snowflakes" thing at my kids school and the parents behind us had a pair of preschoolers wtih them... named Ranger and Charger.
 
2014-07-17 02:42:31 PM  

Rincewind53: vernonFL: She was out after curfew, ran from police and resisted arrest.

Her mother should *also* be beaten for naming her daughter Merceedez.

Fun fact, curfew violation is a misdemeanor, meaning cops likely couldn't even  arrest her for it. Legally the most they could give her is a ticket.


Atwater v. City of Lago Vista says you can be arrested for anything. More bad legal advice corrected on Fark. Its almost a full time job.
 
2014-07-17 02:42:54 PM  

SubBass49: Headso: SubBass49: Funny...I see the pic from the hospital and I see no bruises on her face or arms.  Usually a "beating" by multiple people in a chaotic situation would lead to at least something visible.

heh, diagnoses via single image on the internet. Bill Frist is that you?

So you disagree that a beating by multiple people in a chaotic situation would likely lead to at least ONE visible injury on face or arms?  Especially since her friends claim she was being kicked?

Your reality sounds fun...do the medications help it or hurt it?


no I don't disagree that it would likely lead to that, but maybe this is one of those cases that makes you have to use the "likely" qualifier in your response to me making fun of you for diagnosing injuries via a single image on the internet.
 
2014-07-17 02:43:51 PM  

jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.


Which the police caused by tackling her in the first place. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose or are too dumb to realize cause/effect.
 
2014-07-17 02:44:25 PM  

I alone am best: tlars699: SubBass49: Egoy3k: SewerSquirrels: Egoy3k: It's almost as if African Americans have no trust for the police.  I wonder why that might be.

That would be because all police are racist caucasians, I guess.

It doesn't take all of them or even a majority of them to breed distrust.

With all the videos on the net, one would think you would eventually see one of somebody not sassing, not running from, & not fighting with the cops where they still get their arse kicked by them.

Only a complete psychopath would consider 'sassing' justification for a police beating.

Yeah, but I'm sorry...fighting the cops is TOTAL justification.  BTW, if she'd been BEATEN it would have likely turned out much worse.  She picked a fight with bigger, stronger, more experienced fighters.  I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, and I wouldn't dream of fighting back against police trying to cuff me.

Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.


If she had been able to do that, she should have just started laughing any time they hit her.
*thwack*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*thwack*
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Nothing more disturbing and unsettling to your assailant, really.

So, that is exactly what happened? Or are you just making crap up?


Reading her statement of panicking after getting chased down, being tackled, and saying she was trying to protect her face while they were pinning her arms behind her back and grinding her face into the pavement, and being a person who was regularly beaten up at the ages of 8-16 by authority figures who should have known betterand having close to total recall of a few instances of almost the exact same situation happening, I'm inclined to believe her.

Okay, my bias is showing, but seriously if she's a minor, how is this not Child Abuse?
 
2014-07-17 02:44:35 PM  

corn-bread: Use of the word "situation" to describe issues with the law is a mechanism by which the speaker attempts to distance themselves from the act and downplay any culpability they might have had. It's also a denial mechanism by which one can acknowledge that something might have gone on and speak about it without specifically offering details that might implicate themselves or others.


The police are experts at using the passive voice. "Shots were fired", etc.
 
2014-07-17 02:45:25 PM  

Misconduc: Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

hah.. call obama and complain.


I bet you have to say "I'm not racist!" a lot.
 
2014-07-17 02:46:27 PM  

Click Click D'oh: tlars699: Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

Stop making crap up.  Miranda rights only pertain to questioning and gathering of testimonial evidence.  It has nothing to do with an actual arrest.  If a police officer says "Stop", you have been legally arrested.


DUE PROCESS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_C on stitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning

Jeebus, are we really that far gone?!
 
2014-07-17 02:46:56 PM  
Curfew laws are lazy law enforcement that dovetails with harsh drug possession laws. Sibce it's too much work to investigate and prosecute drug gangs with serious laws, these two shortcuts bypasses all that noise.

First, you (a cop) use the curfew law as an excuse to stop youthful-looking blah persons to ask for ID (to make sure they're not curfew-breaking juvies). While they rifle through their clothing and bags, you keep an eye open for weapons, drug paraphenalia, or "the smell of pot on their person." If you don't like their attitude, you can use any of these pretenses to rattle their cage about being arrested; if you actually spot something, then you get to send a potential gang member to jail for thoughtcrime. It's a win-win, if you like the prison-industrial complex.
 
2014-07-17 02:47:26 PM  

Click Click D'oh: tlars699: Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

Stop making crap up.  Miranda rights only pertain to questioning and gathering of testimonial evidence.  It has nothing to do with an actual arrest.  If a police officer says "Stop", you have been legally arrested.


No, he has not arrested you. You have been detained. There is a big difference.
 
2014-07-17 02:47:52 PM  

give me doughnuts: CeroX: SewerSquirrels: sassing, running

because sassing and running are tantamount to pulling a weapon right? ESPECIALLY if it's a woman under 150lbs... Those biatches are dangerous! Need to beat them til they go limp so they learn their damn place!

Don't be silly! If it was tantamount to pulling a weapon, the cops would have shot her 37 times.


Well if we are going to the extreme.

Pull a fark article out of someone's ass.  They would shot at her, hit her friends 5 times. A neighbors dog 20 times, 5 cars 11 times.  And her shoulder once
 
2014-07-17 02:48:35 PM  

redmid17: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Which the police caused by tackling her in the first place. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose or are too dumb to realize cause/effect.



I have no doubt when the asshole saw her continue walking away after he told her to come back he got a hard and thought to himself "somebody gonna get hurt real bad!"

That being said, he was legally in the clear.
 
2014-07-17 02:49:23 PM  

I alone am best: Click Click D'oh: tlars699: Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

Stop making crap up.  Miranda rights only pertain to questioning and gathering of testimonial evidence.  It has nothing to do with an actual arrest.  If a police officer says "Stop", you have been legally arrested.

No, he has not arrested you. You have been detained. There is a big difference.


That doesn't come close to making his retarded statement correct.

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

I am still laughing.
 
2014-07-17 02:50:23 PM  

tlars699: You're not under arrest until the police have said: You are under arrest.
It's the first part of Miranda Rights that they are supposed to read to you as you are being arrested, and if she walked after they had started reciting that- okay- maybe she would then be classified as resisting.

If she walked away before that, or had mentioned that she needed to go to the shop and pick up her bag/phone, and was then chased down, that is not  resisting arrest.

There can be no resisting a command if there was no command given.


You absolutely do not have to be told "you're under arrest" to legally be under arrest (although Miranda must be given prior to interrogative questioning). As the police had probable cause in this instance (clocks aren't a subjecive opinion), the moment she attempted to leave and they tell her to stop, she has been issued a lawful command and has been placed under arrest.

Christ, she admits to being the only one walking away (bringing into question the legitimacy of any bag/phone left behind - which can be confirmed by the store and/or video surveillance), and then to running when the police attempted to stop her BECAUSE she was trying to leave, and then to fighting them after they did stop her (which isn't "defending yourself" - it's fighting them after you've escalated the situation TWICE).

This girl is an idiot, and she didn't get "beaten." She was forcefully arrested and sustained fairly minor injuries from being tackled and having someone kneel on her neck/back to restrain her. The outrage about police here is idiotic and uninformed.
 
2014-07-17 02:50:28 PM  

tlars699: DUE PROCESS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_C on stitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning

Jeebus, are we really that far gone?!


Where in any of those links does it say that there is no arrest without a reading of the Miranda Rights first?

Exact quotes please.

I'll wait.
 
2014-07-17 02:51:21 PM  

Jument: She ran from the cops. No good will come of that, ever. They are going to have to stop you and there's no way to stop someone from running away that doesn't involve some level of bodily harm.

Curfew, though. WTF? I thought this was the land of the free. Who the hell thinks martial law is a good idea?


I'm wondering why they didn't tase her.  While uncomfortable, it generally stops resistance and doesn't cause serious injury.  As far as the curfew thing, isn't it generally only applicable to juveniles?

/Now has the unofficial Taser anthem by Debby Boone running through my head
 
2014-07-17 02:52:33 PM  

GnomePaladin: Misconduc: Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

hah.. call obama and complain.

I bet you have to say "I'm not racist!" a lot.


Actually I am very much racist; but thanks for asking!
 
2014-07-17 02:52:36 PM  

Waldo Pepper: is there any proof of excessive violence in this situation. you have one side and that has yet to be proven reliable.


Indeed.  I, like everyone else in this thread, have only the information that's available in TFA.
 
2014-07-17 02:52:58 PM  

Rindred: Curfew laws are lazy law enforcement that dovetails with harsh drug possession laws. Sibce it's too much work to investigate and prosecute drug gangs with serious laws, these two shortcuts bypasses all that noise.

First, you (a cop) use the curfew law as an excuse to stop youthful-looking blah persons to ask for ID (to make sure they're not curfew-breaking juvies). While they rifle through their clothing and bags, you keep an eye open for weapons, drug paraphenalia, or "the smell of pot on their person." If you don't like their attitude, you can use any of these pretenses to rattle their cage about being arrested; if you actually spot something, then you get to send a potential gang member to jail for thoughtcrime. It's a win-win, if you like the prison-industrial complex.


There may be places where that's the case, but around my neighborhood I'm very glad the curfew law exists, because we have roaming packs of White tweakers that like to steal everything that isn't tied down.  Curfew laws give the cops and excuse to stop them and ask what's in their backpacks (usually burglary tools and car parts, various electronics, etc.)
 
2014-07-17 02:54:07 PM  

Waldo Pepper: is there any proof of excessive violence in this situation. you have one side and that has yet to be proven reliable.


Having to admit the kid into a hospital doesn't show excessive force?

www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-07-17 02:54:18 PM  

I alone am best: No, he has not arrested you. You have been detained. There is a big difference.


Are you sure about that?

Are you absolutely certain that an investigative detention is not a form of arrest?
 
2014-07-17 02:54:30 PM  

jst3p: redmid17: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Which the police caused by tackling her in the first place. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose or are too dumb to realize cause/effect.

I have no doubt when the asshole saw her continue walking away after he told her to come back he got a hard and thought to himself "somebody gonna get hurt real bad!"

That being said, he was legally in the clear.


Probably, but they definitely jumped up as high as they could on the force continuum. God forbid they grab her instead of tackling her or position themselves in front of her before using force.
 
2014-07-17 02:54:35 PM  

SubBass49: There may be places where that's the case, but around my neighborhood I'm very glad the curfew law exists, because we have roaming packs of White tweakers that like to steal everything that isn't tied down. Curfew laws give the cops and excuse to stop them and ask what's in their backpacks (usually burglary tools and car parts, various electronics, etc.)


In other words, you're in favor of laws used to bypass basic constitutional protections?

How many of those "roaming packs White tweakers" are under 18?
 
2014-07-17 02:54:37 PM  

Perpetuous Procrastination: tlars699: You're not under arrest until the police have said: You are under arrest.
It's the first part of Miranda Rights that they are supposed to read to you as you are being arrested, and if she walked after they had started reciting that- okay- maybe she would then be classified as resisting.

If she walked away before that, or had mentioned that she needed to go to the shop and pick up her bag/phone, and was then chased down, that is not  resisting arrest.

There can be no resisting a command if there was no command given.

You absolutely do not have to be told "you're under arrest" to legally be under arrest (although Miranda must be given prior to interrogative questioning). As the police had probable cause in this instance (clocks aren't a subjecive opinion), the moment she attempted to leave and they tell her to stop, she has been issued a lawful command and has been placed under arrest.

Christ, she admits to being the only one walking away (bringing into question the legitimacy of any bag/phone left behind - which can be confirmed by the store and/or video surveillance), and then to running when the police attempted to stop her BECAUSE she was trying to leave, and then to fighting them after they did stop her (which isn't "defending yourself" - it's fighting them after you've escalated the situation TWICE).

This girl is an idiot, and she didn't get "beaten." She was forcefully arrested and sustained fairly minor injuries from being tackled and having someone kneel on her neck/back to restrain her.



All of this.

 The outrage about police here is idiotic and uninformed.

Especially this.
 
2014-07-17 02:55:24 PM  

jst3p: tlars699: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Techinically correct(best kind), but the police are trying to say she was resisting prior to that.

If the cops say "get back here" and you don't you are resisting arrest without violence.
And what if the person doesn't hear it the first time, because she's walking away? Does that mean it's okay to beat a teenage girl up?

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

BWAHAHAHAHAH! No. Miranda needs to be read before any questioning after arrest. Not while being tackled for running away.

"Every U.S. jurisdiction has its own regulations regarding what, precisely, must be said to a person arrested or placed in a custodial situation. The typical warning states:
You have the right to remain silent when questioned.
Anything you say or do may be used against you in a court of law. (Modern readings have  can and will in place of  may)
You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to the police and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning, if you wish.
If you decide to answer any questions now, without an attorney present, you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney.
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?


Also it shouldn't be expected to have your hair pulled, and your face and neck ground into pavement by police boots in order to get your hands tied down. Dislocated shoulder? Maybe.

You have no idea what you are talking about.


If you are resisting having your arms put behind your back, then more force should be applied to put your arms behind your back, which could lead to dislocated shoulders.
Stomping all over a defendant, and trying to reenact American History X without a curb shouldn't be used to try and get a defendant's arms behind their back to arrest them.
 
2014-07-17 02:55:51 PM  

Por que tan serioso: Atwater v. City of Lago Vista says you can be arrested for anything. More bad legal advice corrected on Fark. Its almost a full time job.


Some people think that watching Law & Order reruns qualifies them to practice law.

/Used to enjoy that show
//Until I found myself screaming "Batson!  BATSON!!!" at the Goddamnednoisybox.
 
2014-07-17 02:56:08 PM  

jst3p: I alone am best: Click Click D'oh: tlars699: Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

Stop making crap up.  Miranda rights only pertain to questioning and gathering of testimonial evidence.  It has nothing to do with an actual arrest.  If a police officer says "Stop", you have been legally arrested.

No, he has not arrested you. You have been detained. There is a big difference.

That doesn't come close to making his retarded statement correct.

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

I am still laughing.


Yeah, this is fark. I have learned when it comes to the law people that hate cops know nothing about it.

/Dont like cops
//Thats why I know my rights.
 
2014-07-17 02:56:32 PM  

redmid17: jst3p: redmid17: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Which the police caused by tackling her in the first place. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose or are too dumb to realize cause/effect.

I have no doubt when the asshole saw her continue walking away after he told her to come back he got a hard and thought to himself "somebody gonna get hurt real bad!"

That being said, he was legally in the clear.

Probably, but they definitely jumped up as high as they could on the force continuum. God forbid they grab her instead of tackling her or position themselves in front of her before using force.


Not even close. They just taught her a lesson. When they want to come down hard they come down a lot harder than she got.

i.huffpost.com
 
2014-07-17 02:57:22 PM  
So the cops get out of the car to talk with a group of teenagers, teenagers run, then when caught teenagers resist and give the cops attitude.

First, how do the cops know that the teenagers are not armed? Second, how do the cops know that the teenagers did not just rob a grocery store and kill someone?

Why run? Why resist? If these teenagers did just kill someone, you same people would be all of the cops for not doing there jobs and for letting the killers go when they had a chance to bring them in.

No matter what color you are, if a cop stops you and asks some questions, just stop and answer them.
 
2014-07-17 02:58:10 PM  

pedrop357: SubBass49: There may be places where that's the case, but around my neighborhood I'm very glad the curfew law exists, because we have roaming packs of White tweakers that like to steal everything that isn't tied down. Curfew laws give the cops and excuse to stop them and ask what's in their backpacks (usually burglary tools and car parts, various electronics, etc.)

In other words, you're in favor of laws used to bypass basic constitutional protections?

How many of those "roaming packs White tweakers" are under 18?


They're not bypassing constitutional protections.  They're investigating why a person under 18 would be out that late at night.  During their investigations, they often turn out to be criminals.  Sure, there are older tweakers out there as well, but I like the cops having the ability/excuse to investigate.
 
2014-07-17 02:58:15 PM  

Click Click D'oh: I alone am best: No, he has not arrested you. You have been detained. There is a big difference.

Are you sure about that?

Are you absolutely certain that an investigative detention is not a form of arrest?

Many officers have been taught that an arrest occurs whenever law enforcement creates a situation in which a subject is "not free to leave." If that was a correct definition, every investigative detention, i.e., "Terry stop," would be an arrest.   [...]

. A seizure of a person occurs whenever force is used or a person submits to a show of authority by police. Seizures of persons come in two forms: investigative detentions, AKA "Terry stops," which require reasonable suspicion, and arrests, which require probable cause.


http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?i d= 2167

Don't take his word for it. Ask the lawyer for the IACP or this former cop turned prosecutor.
 
2014-07-17 02:58:49 PM  

Burning_Monk: Waldo Pepper: is there any proof of excessive violence in this situation. you have one side and that has yet to be proven reliable.

Having to admit the kid into a hospital doesn't show excessive force?

[www.quickmeme.com image 259x194]


It shows force, certainly -- whether it really was excessive depends on what exactly happened.  Going by TFA, it certainly sounds excessive, but then again, TFA is based on the girl's account only.  She has every motive to downplay her own responsibility.
 
2014-07-17 02:59:05 PM  

tlars699: jst3p: tlars699: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Techinically correct(best kind), but the police are trying to say she was resisting prior to that.

If the cops say "get back here" and you don't you are resisting arrest without violence.
And what if the person doesn't hear it the first time, because she's walking away? Does that mean it's okay to beat a teenage girl up?

Also, if she was just tackled without being recited her Miranda rights at the same time, then they were just assaulting her.

BWAHAHAHAHAH! No. Miranda needs to be read before any questioning after arrest. Not while being tackled for running away.
"Every U.S. jurisdiction has its own regulations regarding what, precisely, must be said to a person arrested or placed in a custodial situation. The typical warning states:
You have the right to remain silent when questioned.
Anything you say or do may be used against you in a court of law. (Modern readings have  can and will in place of  may)
You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to the police and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning, if you wish.
If you decide to answer any questions now, without an attorney present, you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney.
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?


Double down on showing everyone what a moran you are, interesting strategy.

They were in the act of placing her in a custodial situation, she was, I am sure, read her rights once she was  in a custodial situation.
 
2014-07-17 02:59:16 PM  

jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.


But if a suspect is resisting arrest, using force to control the suspect is appropriate.  So, go back and read the article and realize why you are wrong.
 
2014-07-17 03:00:46 PM  

jst3p: redmid17: jst3p: redmid17: jst3p: tlars699: Trying to pull your arms away from behind your back, so you can put them up in front of your face, or stop your face from grinding into asphalt =/= fighting the police.

Defending your body from harm =/= fighting

It's pretty hard to resist instinct and just go limp and take it.

All correct, but the first example is the very definition of resisting arrest. And it will cause officers to use more force 100% of the time.

Which the police caused by tackling her in the first place. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose or are too dumb to realize cause/effect.

I have no doubt when the asshole saw her continue walking away after he told her to come back he got a hard and thought to himself "somebody gonna get hurt real bad!"

That being said, he was legally in the clear.

Probably, but they definitely jumped up as high as they could on the force continuum. God forbid they grab her instead of tackling her or position themselves in front of her before using force.

Not even close. They just taught her a lesson. When they want to come down hard they come down a lot harder than she got.

[i.huffpost.com image 260x190]


They jumped to the hard technique of the open handed level. The level of force =/= the amount of force, at least in this case.
 
2014-07-17 03:00:49 PM  

Burning_Monk: Waldo Pepper: is there any proof of excessive violence in this situation. you have one side and that has yet to be proven reliable.

Having to admit the kid into a hospital doesn't show excessive force?

[www.quickmeme.com image 259x194]


Really? anybody can go scratch their knee and say their neck hurts and get admitted to a hospital.
 
2014-07-17 03:01:17 PM  

SubBass49: Rindred: Curfew laws are lazy law enforcement that dovetails with harsh drug possession laws. Sibce it's too much work to investigate and prosecute drug gangs with serious laws, these two shortcuts bypasses all that noise.

First, you (a cop) use the curfew law as an excuse to stop youthful-looking blah persons to ask for ID (to make sure they're not curfew-breaking juvies). While they rifle through their clothing and bags, you keep an eye open for weapons, drug paraphenalia, or "the smell of pot on their person." If you don't like their attitude, you can use any of these pretenses to rattle their cage about being arrested; if you actually spot something, then you get to send a potential gang member to jail for thoughtcrime. It's a win-win, if you like the prison-industrial complex.

There may be places where that's the case, but around my neighborhood I'm very glad the curfew law exists, because we have roaming packs of White tweakers that like to steal everything that isn't tied down.  Curfew laws give the cops and excuse to stop them and ask what's in their backpacks (usually burglary tools and car parts, various electronics, etc.)


I live in an area with nothing but trailer trash tweakers; whether on crystal meth or heroin - they pretty much steal ANYTHING they can get their hands on - ironically they rather smash and grab across the town at a local business; then my Shop which is smack dab in the middle of Meth capitol of florida. I Have no clue why they haven't hit me yet, any day now I guess. Worse part is the parents that are already hooked on this shiat; have their 13-15 yr old KIDS going out and stealing stuff. Doesn't matter whether its a $1 ceramic garden gnome, it will get jacked for dope cash.
 
2014-07-17 03:02:04 PM  

IvanTheSilent: scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.

Except for the fact that the resistance, per the article, began after the officer tackled and kicked her.  Good jorb.


Yes, she was takcled after she ran from the police.  Can you suggest a different course of action?
 
2014-07-17 03:02:38 PM  

MycroftHolmes: jshine: Looks like she had good reason to run from the cops - they're dangerous thugs with no self control and probably will not be held accountable for their actions.

If a suspect is unarmed and not fighting back and you put her in the hospital, you should be tried for assault - badge or no.

But if a suspect is resisting arrest, using force to control the suspect is appropriate.  So, go back and read the article and realize why you are wrong.


They didn't need to tackle her in the first place. They were responding to her responding to their escalation of the situation.
 
2014-07-17 03:02:51 PM  
The Missing Link:  No matter what color you are, if a cop stops you and asks some questions, just stop and answer them.

Personally, I prefer not to answer substantive questions without having an attorney present.  Be nice.  Be polite.  Cooperate physically.  Don't lie to them.  Take the ticket.  Hire a good attorney.  Show up for court.  If you haven't done anything wrong, have your attorney figuratively beat the cop's ass in court.
 
2014-07-17 03:03:41 PM  

MycroftHolmes: IvanTheSilent: scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.

Except for the fact that the resistance, per the article, began after the officer tackled and kicked her. ...


Grab her arm, shoulder, or run in front of the walking teenager...
 
2014-07-17 03:03:55 PM  

IvanTheSilent: scottydoesntknow: question_dj: Recoil Therapy: question_dj: Yeah man, curfew violation is serious business.  Running down teenagers, tackling, then beating them because they were lippy and ran is reasonable response from police.  Gotta show those kids who's boss.  Can't let them get away with being lippy and running.  No sir.  Breaking curfew is tantamount to murder, so actually they should have just shot her.

It may not be justified but the reality is that if you make the police chase you, they WILL beat on you a bit when they catch you.  If you start fighting back & hitting them at that point they will start going overboard in their enthusiasm to subdue you.  If she had just stood there being lippy, she may have pissed off the police but they wouldn't have (probably, you really can't tell with some of them) started beating on her (too many potential witnesses attracted by the noise).  She might have gotten a ticket for being outside 5 min after curfew (which a judge probably would have thrown out if she pressed the issue - 10pm is really early especially in the summer), but she wouldn't be sitting in the hospital right now.

But you already knew all of that....

Will and should are two completely different things.  God forbid police show restraint and forethought when doing their jobs.  Someone runs?  Beating the shiat out of them is the only way to respond.  Are they mouthing off?  Oh man, disrespecting me, beat the shiat out of them!  Yes, they ran.  Yes, they were lippy.  Last I checked, it's illegal for me to beat people when they get lippy with me.  Yet folks give the police a free pass.  These are teenagers doing what teenagers do.  Obviously the right response is to beat them.

I would like to point out that in your paragraph you failed to mention the fact that she resisted, and 99% of the time it's resisting that leads to the beating.

Except for the fact that the resistance, per the article, began after the officer tackled and kicked her.  Good jorb.


The resistance started when she decided to walk away, they said "Get back here" and she didn't.

As I have said previously, that is called "resisting arrest without violence".
 
2014-07-17 03:04:04 PM  

tlars699: "Every U.S. jurisdiction has its own regulations regarding what, precisely, must be said to a person arrested or placed in a custodial situation.


I seem to be missing the part that says when the Miranda Warnings must be read, or any part saying that an arrest is invalid if the Miranda Warnings aren't read first.

Keep working on it.
 
2014-07-17 03:04:53 PM  
At least you're honest about it
 
2014-07-17 03:05:07 PM  

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Por que tan serioso: Atwater v. City of Lago Vista says you can be arrested for anything. More bad legal advice corrected on Fark. Its almost a full time job.

Some people think that watching Law & Order reruns qualifies them to practice law.

/Used to enjoy that show
//Until I found myself screaming "Batson!  BATSON!!!" at the Goddamnednoisybox.


We call it a Wheeler motion in SD.
 
2014-07-17 03:05:12 PM