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2014-07-17 08:40:44 AM  
"almost two tons of wet, putrescible waste"

Sounds like my ex.

/Ba dum tish
 
2014-07-17 08:43:39 AM  
Why not just stop picking up their trash?
Seems equally as effective.

And, you know, probably not illegal.
 
2014-07-17 08:49:50 AM  

Honest Bender: Why not just stop picking up their trash?
Seems equally as effective.

And, you know, probably not illegal.


From the article it sounds like the customer had rented one of these and stopped paying the rental fees:

www.wastenations.com

So, it wasn't like the guy was just not paying for his normal trash collection, he rented a dumpster, filled it with trash, and stopped paying for the dumpster.  The garbage company then took the dumpster back, but left the guy his trash.

It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.
 
2014-07-17 08:55:44 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: The garbage company then took the dumpster back, but left the guy his trash.


oooooh.
That's exactly what I would have done.

You gotta pay to play!
 
2014-07-17 09:25:55 AM  
I don't know. Let's let Italy field this one.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-17 09:31:32 AM  
Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

That sound you heard was a thousand civil rights lawyers crying as their visions of a jackpot vanished.
 
2014-07-17 09:34:26 AM  
Oh FFS

/you mean I need to pay the neighbor's dog, too?
 
2014-07-17 09:46:22 AM  

ZAZ: Merceedez Wright admits she and her friends were out a few minutes after the city's 10 p.m. curfew, and that she both ran from officers and resisted them after being tackled, but she doesn't believe she deserves the injuries she suffered.

That sound you heard was a thousand civil rights lawyers crying as their visions of a jackpot vanished.


Mmm....tough break.  Missed it by that much
 
2014-07-17 09:48:44 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.


I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.
 
2014-07-17 09:58:18 AM  

Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.


Yep, in this context it is perfectly justified.  The business/person (the article wasn't real clear as to who rented the dumpster) stopped paying the rental for the dumpster & the owner of it wanted it back.  The trash that was inside still legally belonged to the person that dumped it (as they hadn't paid to have it hauled off yet) so emptying it out is the right way to get it back.

/assuming of course that the renter has been ignoring multiple demands for payment & that it wasn't something like one day late
 
2014-07-17 10:02:14 AM  

Recoil Therapy: Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.

Yep, in this context it is perfectly justified.  The business/person (the article wasn't real clear as to who rented the dumpster) stopped paying the rental for the dumpster & the owner of it wanted it back.  The trash that was inside still legally belonged to the person that dumped it (as they hadn't paid to have it hauled off yet) so emptying it out is the right way to get it back.

/assuming of course that the renter has been ignoring multiple demands for payment & that it wasn't something like one day late


Yeah, it was more of a we are taking our dumpster back, here is the stuff you left upon our property.
 
2014-07-17 10:02:25 AM  

Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.


The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.

Take the dumpster and the trash, and then either send the bill to collections or place a lien on his property for it.
 
2014-07-17 10:03:17 AM  
i.ytimg.com

We thought you wanted it back!
 
2014-07-17 10:04:42 AM  
The city, apparently, had to clean it up, which will cost Paul's Industrial Garage $735, in addition to the $1,800 fine.

The company says it lost nearly $1,500 in business by having the roll-off tied up with a customer who wasn't paying for it.


So, instead of it being $1500, now they're out $4000.

Brilliant.
 
2014-07-17 10:05:20 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.

The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.

Take the dumpster and the trash, and then either send the bill to collections or place a lien on his property for it.


Maybe I'm just old and cynical, but why can I see that resulting in a claim that the trash company "stole" the contents of the dumpster?
 
2014-07-17 10:07:08 AM  
What happens if you don't pay your exorcist?
You get reposssessed.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-17 10:07:20 AM  
Let's just pretend I posted that in thread 8340224. Only missed by four.

And on topic for this thread: If you ever think cops are going through your trash, you should let it ferment a few weeks before setting it out for them.
 
2014-07-17 10:07:32 AM  
My old man had a dumpster behind his business that people would periodically throw trash into.  So we'd open their trash and find their mail.  Then we'd drive by their house at night and I'd chuck it into their front yard from the back of a truck.

People never fail to include their mail when dumping illegally.  I've never understood that.
 
2014-07-17 10:10:40 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: The city, apparently, had to clean it up, which will cost Paul's Industrial Garage $735, in addition to the $1,800 fine.

The company says it lost nearly $1,500 in business by having the roll-off tied up with a customer who wasn't paying for it.

So, instead of it being $1500, now they're out $4000.

Brilliant.


Pauls industrial garage might be the property owner. The article isnt clear.

If it was the hauler I wouldn't pay. In fact id sue the city.
 
2014-07-17 10:10:49 AM  
PTuteTibiImperes: Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.

The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.

Take the dumpster and the trash, and then either send the bill to collections or place a lien on his property for it.


err public, not Publix.
 
2014-07-17 10:11:27 AM  

Rapmaster2000: My old man had a dumpster behind his business that people would periodically throw trash into.  So we'd open their trash and find their mail.  Then we'd drive by their house at night and I'd chuck it into their front yard from the back of a truck.

People never fail to include their mail when dumping illegally.  I've never understood that.



Who said it was my mail?
 
2014-07-17 10:13:05 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.


God I miss Publix.
 
2014-07-17 10:13:49 AM  
I lived in one city where the garbage trucks used to read "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Double Your Garbage Back."
 
2014-07-17 10:14:13 AM  

mschwenk: ArcadianRefugee: The city, apparently, had to clean it up, which will cost Paul's Industrial Garage $735, in addition to the $1,800 fine.

The company says it lost nearly $1,500 in business by having the roll-off tied up with a customer who wasn't paying for it.

So, instead of it being $1500, now they're out $4000.

Brilliant.

Pauls industrial garage might be the property owner. The article isnt clear.

If it was the hauler I wouldn't pay. In fact id sue the city.


Me either.  That bill from the city should be given to the owner or renter of the property.  They're the ones not taking care of their trash.
 
2014-07-17 10:14:47 AM  
This city has a legal curfew? Is this the part of Minnesota that's in Gaza?
 
2014-07-17 10:16:36 AM  
had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.
 
2014-07-17 10:16:42 AM  
This story reminds me of a Malcolm in the Middle episode.
 
2014-07-17 10:18:26 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.


I'd say that's the fault of the people who put the trash in the dumpster, not the people who hauled the dumpster away.  IF it's such a hazard, they shouldn't have been storing it outside.  The dumpster company didn't put that trash there.  They just took their bin.

The City should fine the property owner, not the dumpster company.
 
2014-07-17 10:22:09 AM  

jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.


That is a completely different situation. In that case the new guy broke the contract. If you buy a company you have to honor existing contract.
 
2014-07-17 10:22:33 AM  

jumac: When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.


Sounds like Jr. should get a visit from the cops for extortion.
 
2014-07-17 10:25:16 AM  

jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.


The solution to that would be to start charging him rent for having his dumpster on your property.  If he isn't going to honor the prior agreements, then he's using your land without permission.  Charge him for it and go hire a different company to deal with the trash.
 
2014-07-17 10:26:44 AM  

mschwenk: jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.

That is a completely different situation. In that case the new guy broke the contract. If you buy a company you have to honor existing contract.


I ment the dumping of trash on the lawn but your right bout the other point.  but seem to happen a lot.

parents contracted with a company that was redoing the road in front of their house that the company could use their back yard to store all the equipment/etc while the road was being fix if the company filled in their back yard.  there was so much fill that there was a small hill of dirt/rocks in their back yard after.  the contract stated the company had x years to get rid of it.  Same thing happen father gets done son tacks over and said old contract was no good.  parents had to take him to court to have him remove it.
 
2014-07-17 10:27:34 AM  

Snarfangel: Rapmaster2000: My old man had a dumpster behind his business that people would periodically throw trash into.  So we'd open their trash and find their mail.  Then we'd drive by their house at night and I'd chuck it into their front yard from the back of a truck.

People never fail to include their mail when dumping illegally.  I've never understood that.


Who said it was my mail?


Generally, people don't insert their neighbor's mail into their own trash bag.
 
2014-07-17 10:27:49 AM  

jumac: mschwenk: jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.

That is a completely different situation. In that case the new guy broke the contract. If you buy a company you have to honor existing contract.

I ment the dumping of trash on the lawn but your right bout the other point.  but seem to happen a lot.

parents contracted with a company that was redoing the road in front of their house that the company could use their back yard to store all the equipment/etc while the road was being fix if the company filled in their back yard.  there was so much fill that there was a small hill of dirt/rocks in their back yard after.  the contract stated the company had x years to get rid of it.  Same thing happen father gets done son tacks over and said old contract was no good.  parents had to take him to court to have him remove it.


err son takes over i am to tired atm for spelling
 
2014-07-17 10:27:59 AM  

jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.


Wow, what an arsehole.  I wonder how long his business will last.
 
2014-07-17 10:29:46 AM  

jumac: mschwenk: jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.

That is a completely different situation. In that case the new guy broke the contract. If you buy a company you have to honor existing contract.

I ment the dumping of trash on the lawn but your right bout the other point.  but seem to happen a lot.

parents contracted with a company that was redoing the road in front of their house that the company could use their back yard to store all the equipment/etc while the road was being fix if the company filled in their back yard.  there was so much fill that there was a small hill of dirt/rocks in their back yard after.  the contract stated the company had x years to get rid of it.  Same thing happen father gets done son tacks over and said old contract was no good.  parents had to take him to court to have him remove it.


And if theres no other comapny to do it locally, you have a great opportunity. Your advertising can say "I won't cheat you or commit fraud/extortion like company x will!"
 
2014-07-17 10:30:46 AM  

jumac: Same thing happen father gets done son tacks over and said old contract was no good.  parents had to take him to court to have him remove it.


I can see how a company might try their luck on a customer in that situation, but you've got to be one stupid sack of shiat to actually take it to the point where you have to walk into a court room.
 
2014-07-17 10:35:33 AM  

Snarfangel: Rapmaster2000: My old man had a dumpster behind his business that people would periodically throw trash into.  So we'd open their trash and find their mail.  Then we'd drive by their house at night and I'd chuck it into their front yard from the back of a truck.

People never fail to include their mail when dumping illegally.  I've never understood that.


Who said it was my mail?


Maybe someone stole it

/on a Friday night
 
2014-07-17 10:37:27 AM  

Rev.K: Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-17 10:40:22 AM  

H31N0US: [i.ytimg.com image 320x180]

We thought you wanted it back!


"You are speaking shiat to me!"
 
2014-07-17 10:43:35 AM  
I didn't realize until recently how much of a documentary on human behavior "The Sopranos" is.
 
2014-07-17 10:49:48 AM  
I just moved into a new township, and they pick up garbage as part of city services. It's downright civilized. They take a whole bunch of things like couches and old box springs as well and I've noticed that nowhere in the town do these things sit on the porch.

It's as if garbage service benefited everyone in the community.
 
2014-07-17 10:49:56 AM  
What happens if you call the garbage collectors "trash eating stink bags"?
 
2014-07-17 11:00:47 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: I just moved into a new township, and they pick up garbage as part of city services. It's downright civilized. They take a whole bunch of things like couches and old box springs as well and I've noticed that nowhere in the town do these things sit on the porch.

It's as if garbage service benefited everyone in the community.


We have this too but we only get 6 "bulk pickups" per year which can be about anything - old furniture/appliances, junk wood, whatever.  You can set it on the curb (you schedule the day in advance so it doesn't sit forever) and they bring by this extra awesome garbage truck with a bigass crane with a grabber arm.  It's basically a giant version of one of those little games where you try to grab a stuff animal, except this one can pick up a fridge like it's a toothpick.  The only thing that sucks about it is you are no longer allowed to put out drywall since they upgraded to an incinerator.  Well, you can, but this costs extra.  And obviously no toxic waste or whatever.  But it's pretty nice when you want to get rid of broken furniture.
 
2014-07-17 11:02:11 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.  Adults acting like infants.
 
2014-07-17 11:08:18 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: The city, apparently, had to clean it up, which will cost Paul's Industrial Garage $735, in addition to the $1,800 fine.

The company says it lost nearly $1,500 in business by having the roll-off tied up with a customer who wasn't paying for it.

So, instead of it being $1500, now they're out $4000.

Brilliant.


They sound dumb. I've rented a dumpster 3 times in the last few years for renovations or various other projects at home. They don't rent by the day. They ask how long I need it, I pay for it when they drop it off and they come get it when I told them I'd be done. If I need an extra day they're very cool about it. Or if they can't come get it when they're supposed too, I'm cool about it. This homeowner sounds lazy and the rental company sound like a bunch of assholes. Basically, everyone in this story is a dick.
 
2014-07-17 11:18:14 AM  

JuggleGeek: jumac: had a coworker have a issue like this while back.  they where cleaning out her mothers house and rented a dumpster to haul all the junk away. she was told it would cost x amount to rent it and to haul it away full.  She signed the rental/disposal papers saying as much.  But In between the time she got the dumpster and the day it was set to be picked up the company had changed hands.(something bout owner getting done and son taking over business.  When the son came to pick it up he said the old papers where no good cause it was not him who she set it up with and wanted 2x as much as the papers said.  When she didn't have the money he did what this company did.  Last I heard the town was mad(not at my coworker but the company) and the city was into ways to force him to clean it up.  He is claiming any and all contracts that where in place under his dad where no longer any good and that people had to redo contracts with him.

The solution to that would be to start charging him rent for having his dumpster on your property.  If he isn't going to honor the prior agreements, then he's using your land without permission.  Charge him for it and go hire a different company to deal with the trash.


Or, claim it as your own since it's sitting on your property and offer it free to one of his competitors if they'll haul it away with the garbage.
 
2014-07-17 11:51:10 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Honest Bender: Why not just stop picking up their trash?
Seems equally as effective.

And, you know, probably not illegal.

From the article it sounds like the customer had rented one of these and stopped paying the rental fees:

[www.wastenations.com image 350x203]

So, it wasn't like the guy was just not paying for his normal trash collection, he rented a dumpster, filled it with trash, and stopped paying for the dumpster.  The garbage company then took the dumpster back, but left the guy his trash.

It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.


Yeah, they need the roll-off back, but this is totally not the way to handle the situation, as the waste management company will learn.

Carn: The Irresponsible Captain: I just moved into a new township, and they pick up garbage as part of city services. It's downright civilized. They take a whole bunch of things like couches and old box springs as well and I've noticed that nowhere in the town do these things sit on the porch.


Carn: We have this too but we only get 6 "bulk pickups" per year which can be about anything - old furniture/appliances, junk wood, whatever.  You can set it on the curb (you schedule the day in advance so it doesn't sit forever) and they bring by this extra awesome garbage truck with a bigass crane with a grabber arm.  It's basically a giant version of one of those little games where you try to grab a stuff animal, except this one can pick up a fridge like it's a toothpick.  The only thing that sucks about it is you are no longer allowed to put out drywall since they upgraded to an incinerator.  Well, you can, but this costs extra.  And obviously no toxic waste or whatever.  But it's pretty nice when you want to get rid of broken furniture.


Vegas apparently has this, except if I understood my uncle correctly, pickup is every other day, and you can dump pretty much anything you want, all year long, the incinerator will apparently burn just about anything...

Meanwhile, here in Utah, they put out the bulk trash dumpsters for 2 days in a year, and it's not like a 48 hours '2 days', this year they put them out 1st thing on Tuesday morning and had them gone by 5 pm on Wednesday. Technically, we had "2 days", Tuesday and Wednesday...
 
2014-07-17 12:03:08 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Rev.K: TuteTibiImperes: It was still a petty move, but at least a little more understandable in that context.

I think it's justified.

If they haul the trash away, they are performing their service for nothing, which is exactly what the non-paying customer would want.

Sorry, dude, here's your trash back.

Deal with it.

The only issue is that it does create a potential Publix health hazard, attracts wild animals, and causes problems for the neighbors as well.

Take the dumpster and the trash, and then either send the bill to collections or place a lien on his property for it.


And THAT is the real issue, and the proper solution.
 
2014-07-17 12:40:01 PM  

Mikey1969: Meanwhile, here in Utah, they put out the bulk trash dumpsters for 2 days in a year, and it's not like a 48 hours '2 days', this year they put them out 1st thing on Tuesday morning and had them gone by 5 pm on Wednesday. Technically, we had "2 days", Tuesday and Wednesday...


Here in Northern KY there is one day a month (1st Saturday) where they fill the county maintenance yard with dumpsters & residents can come dump pretty much anything into them, yard waste, construction debris, old junk, etc (they'll even help empty the truck/trailer or if it is something real heavy bring over the bobcat to flip it in there).  There's a charge to dump old tires but anything else is fine.  The theory being that it's better to let people bring it there for free than to have it wind up over the side of a hill somewhere.  By far the best use of tax dollars that I've seen in a while.  Also, if you call ahead of time & drag it to the curb, they'll send a truck to haul off any appliances or furniture that the regular trash guys won't take (no extra charge).

Other things may be pretty messed up but the trash dumping is well under control.
 
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