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(Futurity)   Oh shiat, China really did have dragons   (futurity.org) divider line 19
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2014-07-17 10:35:47 AM  
As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.

The same principal works wit the future, many inventions coming from science fiction.

I would venture to say that even if our chances of actually seeing an alien were about the same as actually seeing a dinosaur, that our collective conscious vision of them might not be too far off, even if we didn't make actual physical contact.
 
2014-07-17 11:20:06 AM  

Kevin72: As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.

The same principal works wit the future, many inventions coming from science fiction.

I would venture to say that even if our chances of actually seeing an alien were about the same as actually seeing a dinosaur, that our collective conscious vision of them might not be too far off, even if we didn't make actual physical contact.


Except, of course, Chinese Dragons and Western Dragons have almost nothing to do with each other. Chinese Dragons don't even resemble dinosaurs.

upload.wikimedia.org

Chinese dragons are also aquatic in nature (hence the scales) and reside underwater. In their capacities as rulers of the Four Seas, they are also humanoid in shape and appearance.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-17 11:36:47 AM  

Kevin72: As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.


I think you'd have a better basis if you said that people imagine dragons because they are basing it on the instinctual human (and, really, mammalian) fear of snakes hardwired into people's DNA - when we were once small mammals that were eaten by snakes all the time.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/10/1004_snakefears.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/25/AR20 10 102503433.html

The original dragons in the West are snake-like (or as they were referred to in Old English - wyrm, meaning serpent, or from the Greek word drakon, meaning snake). Similarly, Chinese dragons were snake-like as well. Don't forget the feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl.
 
2014-07-17 01:17:59 PM  
Birds and lizards are genetically related in any case. I suppose the sparrow outside your window right now could be referred to as a "dragon".
 
2014-07-17 01:45:04 PM  

Kevin72: As a way of  making shiat upproving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.

The same principal works wit the future, many inventions coming from science fiction.

I would venture to say that even if our chances of actually seeing an alien were about the same as actually seeing a dinosaur, that our collective conscious vision of them might not be too far off, even if we didn't make actual physical contact.

 
2014-07-17 01:45:48 PM  
Danerys Targaryen approves.
 
2014-07-17 01:54:40 PM  

Cybernetic: Danerys Targaryen approves.


Lady Sybil Deidre Olgivanna Vimes (née Ramkin) approved first.
 
2014-07-17 01:54:43 PM  

Kevin72: As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.

The same principal works wit the future, many inventions coming from science fiction.

I would venture to say that even if our chances of actually seeing an alien were about the same as actually seeing a dinosaur, that our collective conscious vision of them might not be too far off, even if we didn't make actual physical contact.


Same goes for having one-eyed Cyclops... people saw elephant skeletons... the one hole in the skull is for the nose/trunk... but sure a hell looks like a giant one eyed monster! Cool... time for a new Dragon Overlords Vid!
 
2014-07-17 02:01:56 PM  

Kevin72: As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.


You sound like the type of teacher I would drop after the first week. Think something is true because it sounds neat isn't really proof of anything. Believing people someone magically saw "dinosaurs" which actually DIDN'T look like dragons at all but not the other thousands of species that existed before man is just silly.
 
2014-07-17 02:08:37 PM  

Kevin72: As a way of proving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.


Drugs are bad, mmkay? And no, "dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s" is bullshiat. Dinosaur bones have been dug up by people for thousands of years. It wasn't until the 1800's that people began to understand what they were.

Do us all a favor, don't fill children's heads with bullshiat. Take a little time to actually learn about what you are teaching kids. Or, get a job teaching at a fundoe Christian school where you're free to make up whatever horseshiat you want.
 
2014-07-17 02:08:59 PM  
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2014-07-17 02:24:31 PM  
Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s

I wonder if that's really true.  Isn't it possible that they had been discovered somewhere and they just thought - damn, that must be from a dragon or something?
 
2014-07-17 02:50:47 PM  
Well, duh
www.cryptomundo.com
 
2014-07-17 03:15:57 PM  
That's a Phoenix, not a dragon.
 
2014-07-17 03:33:41 PM  
"The long bony tail of Changyuraptor and the foot long feathers it sported are unlike the short tails in modern birds," adds Turner.

Unless they're flightless or hopping birds. (I don't know about the aerodynamics of birds so this tail/the rest of the bird may not fit with a ground bound bird.)

The long tail and large flight surface provided by the long feathers was shown to be efficient in controlling decent speed

What about indecent speed?*

and the natural tendency to pitch forward or back during decent.

Pretty birds also have a natural tendency to pitch forward or backward during indecent. Although standing straight up during indecent is fun in the shower.

* What about ludicrous speed?
 
2014-07-17 04:54:00 PM  

Crudbucket: Kevin72: As a way of  making shiat upproving that human imagination can travel beyond time and space, I frequently tell students that I substitute for that the reason that every culture has a dragon myth is because they were actually seeing dinosaurs when they were using their imaginations on the question "what was here before people". Though dinosaur bones were not discovered until the 1800s, every culture imagined them.

The same principal works wit the future, many inventions coming from science fiction.

I would venture to say that even if our chances of actually seeing an alien were about the same as actually seeing a dinosaur, that our collective conscious vision of them might not be too far off, even if we didn't make actual physical contact.


This...especially as dinosaur fossils have been known by the West since at least the 1600s and even recognised as something ancient, if occasionally misidentified (the earliest verifiable find of a dinosaur fossil by humans was part of a megalosaurid knee which earned the name Scrotum humanum because its finder apparently thought it was the fossilised nutsack of a giant.  Not.  Kidding...back in 1676).  We pretty much realised they were big archosaurs back in the 1800s, and it's been about in the past thirty years or so that we've realised that more often than not they've not been big scaly not-lizards but often small, fuzzy not-lizards...oh, and the dinosaurian bat-analogues did survive and you're eating dinosaur every time you have Popeye's or Peking duck or the ostrich burgers at the fair!  (Even more shocking--some of the dinosaurs are learning to use tools and live indoors with us humans!)
 
2014-07-17 04:58:57 PM  

Great Porn Dragon:   (Even more shocking--some of the dinosaurs are learning to use tools and live indoors with us humans!)


misc-ience.co.nz

I'll need my grubs ready by 6:15 so I catch the #2 line to the office on time, capiche?
 
2014-07-17 05:04:35 PM  

FueledByEthanol: Great Porn Dragon:   (Even more shocking--some of the dinosaurs are learning to use tools and live indoors with us humans!)

[misc-ience.co.nz image 358x230]

I'll need my grubs ready by 6:15 so I catch the #2 line to the office on time, capiche?


ROFL...thank you, that's pretty much exactly what I was going for :D

And darnit, I think the not-quite-little-anymore dromie is CUTE! :D

www.futurity.org
 
2014-07-18 05:38:40 PM  
The chinese didn't even call them dragons, western dudes went to china and saw their statues and they were all "yep, dragons."
 
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