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(World Review)   Putin's planned revival of a Soviet-era Union in Eurasia may seem like steel toe cap boots marching East, but China sees them more as pink silky ballet shoes   (worldreview.info) divider line 22
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2014-07-17 10:55:13 AM  
Dear Pootiepoot,

Yes, sanctions are bullying, pretty much in any reasonable sense of the word. That's the point. Now, act right and it'll stop.
Love,
incendi
 
2014-07-17 11:02:32 AM  
Not with their corruption. Besides, Ukraine is strong!
 
2014-07-17 11:47:39 AM  
However, at the May signing, Bakytzhan Sagintayev, the first deputy prime minister of Kazakhstan, said, 'We are not creating a political organisation; we are forming a purely economic union.'

hahaha
 
2014-07-17 01:03:45 PM  
China's not concerned because at the end of the day, China owns continental Asia and everyone knows it.

China also has Russia under one boot with that LNG deal that they signed as retaliation for the EU smacking them around over Ukraine.  China's getting Russian LNG at a price so cheap that both sides agreed to keep it a national secret.

If Russia's economy keeps going downhill as it is now, China will simply step in and have Russia as a vassal power along with those economic groups that Russia's throwing together.

In short, Russia is the past and China is the future of Asia.  And god help the Russians if China decided that it needs Siberian resources.
 
2014-07-17 01:04:34 PM  
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So the Stalin I once knew is truly dead.

/obscure?
 
2014-07-17 01:05:30 PM  

Infernalist: In short, Russia is the past and China is the future of Asia.  And god help the Russians if China decided that it needs Siberian resources.


Do not start a land war in Asia.
Do not provoke General Winter.

These are good rules to live by. China or not.
 
2014-07-17 01:08:25 PM  

hardinparamedic: Infernalist: In short, Russia is the past and China is the future of Asia.  And god help the Russians if China decided that it needs Siberian resources.

Do not start a land war in Asia.
Do not provoke General Winter.

These are good rules to live by. China or not.


Of all the nations in the world that I trust to safely conduct a land war in Asia, it would be the Chinese.

The second part remains relevant, however.  Though even that is open to possibility when you're dealing with a nation with a 100 million man standing army.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:09 PM  

hardinparamedic: Infernalist: In short, Russia is the past and China is the future of Asia.  And god help the Russians if China decided that it needs Siberian resources.

Do not start a land war in Asia.
Do not provoke General Winter.


...unless you're the Mongols.
 
2014-07-17 01:11:59 PM  

Mentat: However, at the May signing, Bakytzhan Sagintayev, the first deputy prime minister of Kazakhstan, said, 'We are not creating a political organisation; we are forming a purely economic union.'

hahaha


"By the way, fark Uzbekistan," he added while drinking a glass of gypsy tears.
 
2014-07-17 01:15:50 PM  

Infernalist: Though even that is open to possibility when you're dealing with a nation with a 100 million man standing army.


That's true. The only thing that saved the Soviets during World War II was their high command's willingness to throw away millions of lives in human wave tactics with substandard equipment against a vastly outnumbered but technologically superior force.

Wonder how that would fare against China, who has a huge surplus of expendable male soldiers who will never have children, and who have the same front line equipment as the Sovi-, err Russians do.

Real life continues to look more and more like something out of an anime every day.

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2014-07-17 01:16:35 PM  

Infernalist: when you're dealing with a nation with a 100 million man standing army.


nope.
 
2014-07-17 01:27:46 PM  
So China, which wasn't afraid of Russia to begin with, is still not afraid when Russia picks up a couple midgets to help them out?

Am I supposed to be shocked or something?
 
2014-07-17 01:28:07 PM  

incendi: Dear Pootiepoot,

Yes, sanctions are bullying, pretty much in any reasonable sense of the word. That's the point. Now, act right and it'll stop.
Love,
incendi


By calling us bullies, isn't he tacitly acknowledging that he is our biatch?
 
2014-07-17 01:28:55 PM  
Also, it's interesting how old empires now are called Economic Unions.
 
2014-07-17 01:31:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: The only thing that saved the Soviets during World War II was their high command's willingness to throw away millions of lives in human wave tactics with substandard equipment against a vastly outnumbered but technologically superior force.


Oh, c'mon. Hilter set an all-time assist record with his interference with his generals in the Soviet Union. Hilter defeated the Germans in the East as much as Stalin did.
 
2014-07-17 01:31:33 PM  

sendtodave: Also, it's interesting how old empires now are called Economic Unions.


It's proxy wars or the apocalypse from here on out. Cyber and economic are the most effective types of modern warfare.

/Call of Duty:Ratcheting Sanctions, coming soon!
 
2014-07-17 01:31:47 PM  
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LoL, rock on you keyboard strategist.
 
2014-07-17 01:36:04 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: [www.worldreview.info image 557x371]

LoL, rock on you keyboard strategist.


That map represents members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, not the EEU. Rock on.
 
2014-07-17 02:05:33 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: [www.worldreview.info image 557x371]

LoL, rock on you keyboard strategist.

That map represents members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, not the EEU. Rock on.


I know but several over lapping members.
 
2014-07-17 02:09:44 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: [www.worldreview.info image 557x371]

LoL, rock on you keyboard strategist.

That map represents members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, not the EEU. Rock on.

I know but several over lapping members.


Yeah, but China and India will never join the EEU. Misleading.
 
2014-07-17 02:33:40 PM  
Hey, the Russians dominated the world of ballet for 100 years. You don't mess with Russian ballerinas.
 
2014-07-17 09:35:00 PM  

Infernalist: China's not concerned because at the end of the day, China owns continental Asia and everyone knows it.

China also has Russia under one boot with that LNG deal that they signed as retaliation for the EU smacking them around over Ukraine.  China's getting Russian LNG at a price so cheap that both sides agreed to keep it a national secret.

If Russia's economy keeps going downhill as it is now, China will simply step in and have Russia as a vassal power along with those economic groups that Russia's throwing together.

In short, Russia is the past and China is the future of Asia.  And god help the Russians if China decided that it needs Siberian resources.


Siberia has historically always been part of China. See it's on this map from 1165.
 
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