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(Yahoo)   GOP Senators to women: "No, you can't have contraception. Not yours"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 6
    More: Obvious, GOP, Senate, Greg Shaheen, NARAL, Mitch McConnell, United States elections, 2010, contraceptives, Office for National Statistics  
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2014-07-17 10:37:09 AM  
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Republicans called the bill a political stunt aimed at helping vulnerable Democratic incumbents in the elections.

How dare the Democrats propose bills that a majority of the electorate would favor!  Will they stop at nothing with their "stunts"?
2014-07-17 11:09:09 AM  
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dwrash: fiddlehead: dwrash: ManateeGag: dwrash: Birth control should be available over the counter without prescription

really?  so women, who have no idea what their needs are medically, should just randomly pick some form of birth control pill that will do God knows what to their physical and mental health?  Birth control pills are not one size fits all.

Karac: What's the over-the-counter cost of an IUD?

yeah, just sit up on the counter and the pharmacist will put it in for you. or you can get a hand mirror and do it yourself.

This isn't my idea.. its the idea of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.. you know, the doctors that prescribe them?

https://www.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/C om mittee-on-Gynecologic-Practice/Over-the-Counter-Access-to-Oral-Contrac eptives

You are aware that oral contraceptives and IUDs are two completely separate things, right?

Absolutely, and my response was to the first section of the quoted post.. and addressed her assertion that you should have to go to a doctor to get a prescription for the pill... the doctors disagree with his/her opinion.


Ironically, one of the reasons that ACOG recommends making OCPs OTC is to avoid dealing with asshole pharmacists who refuse to fill these prescriptions.
2014-07-17 11:04:38 AM  
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dwrash: So would a woman prefer to pay a 30 copay for a doctors visit and then a 10-20 copay for her birth control pills or just go to CVS and pay $25-$30 for a months supply.  I think the answer is obvious.  Over the counter is cheaper for everyone involved.


Can you math?

$30 + ($15-25) x 13 = $225-355

($25-30) x 13 = $325-390

If that's the choice you're laying out, I know which one I'd pick.  But that's irrelevant because not everyone can have those fancy pants plans with copays rather than deductibles anyways.

But all that aside, the most effective AND cheapest long term birth control is exactly the type Hobby Lobby didn't want to cover: implants and IUDs.  You can go to your doctor once and get a device that lasts years.  Problem is the upfront costs are intimidating.  Everyone can think of something they'd rather spend $1000 on now; you don't do quite the same calculation automatically with $30 a month.

The nice thing about no cost birth control is that those short term versus long term cost calculations are removed from the equation and more women choose the cheaper, more effective options.

\Yes, 4 weeks goes into 52 weeks 13 times, not 12, despite what many practitioners seem to think as they keep writing for 12 packs when they know your insurance won't let you come back for 52 weeks.
2014-07-17 10:47:31 AM  
1 votes:

dwrash: Such BS from the left... NOTHING is free.. NOTHING.

Birth control should be available over the counter without prescription.. and the Republicans had that in their latest bill, and it was defeated.

FYI, More and more drugs are being available over the counter and not covered under insurance anymore...

Like the mantra of 'free' preventative care.. free is a load of crap, you still have to pay co-pays out the wazoo.

So would a woman prefer to pay a 30 copay for a doctors visit and then a 10-20 copay for her birth control pills or just go to CVS and pay $25-$30 for a months supply.  I think the answer is obvious.  Over the counter is cheaper for everyone involved.


What's the over-the-counter cost of an IUD?
2014-07-17 10:36:52 AM  
1 votes:

LarryDan43: Three Republicans broke ranks with their party - Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Mark Kirk of Illinois

RINOS!  Mount up baggers we've got some tea to deliver!


*climbs on hoveround*
2014-07-17 10:36:16 AM  
1 votes:
Just another part of hat GOP outreach to female voters.
 
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