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(Yahoo)   GOP Senators to women: "No, you can't have contraception. Not yours"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 160
    More: Obvious, GOP, Senate, Greg Shaheen, NARAL, Mitch McConnell, United States elections, 2010, contraceptives, Office for National Statistics  
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2014-07-18 02:12:43 AM  

grumpfuff: tbeatty: It' amazing that nearly every other President has managed to deal with opposite party minorities regardless of the Presidents party.

You forgot to mention that the minority party wasn't abusing the shiat out of filibusters.

tbeatty: This president had difficulty with a super-majority senate.

wat

tbeatty: It's pretty clear where the problem is.

Yup, the problem is the type of people who think the Democrats have a super-majority in the Senate.


The problem seems to be your ability to identify tense.  From April 2009 until January 2010, Dems had 60 caucus members.  That is a filibuster proof super-majority and far more than any Republican President had.  He also had a majority in the House which the majority has much more control.
 
2014-07-18 02:41:57 AM  

jst3p: Khellendros: Noam Chimpsky: Buy your own contraceptives, Democrats.

Take your own advice, Repubs.  You've got an out of control birthrate, no knowledge of basic human sexuality, and seem to get angry paying 60 cents for a lifetime of birth control, but will instead plunge half a million into social net services to take care of the child that resulted from not having easy access to common birth control.

The teen pregnancy rates and highest poverty rates are the worst in conservative states. Not to mention that the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions is making contraception available. Conservatives are simply ignorant.


It ain't society that gets pregnant. Individuals should be responsible for their own lives.  But feel free to start a contraceptive charity that will provide free contraceptives. Someone was saying it's really cheap so why expand government? Lots of rich people would be happy as hell to contribute to that.
 
2014-07-18 02:54:06 AM  

tbeatty: Oh BS. The left still hates Reagan and GWB and the Dem senate treated them no differently than republicans are treating Obama.


Nope.  Were you even alive when Reagan was President?  Reagan's pretty much got everything he wanted thanks to a large number of Boll Weevil Dems in the House and Republican control over the Senate.  Bush had the good will of both parties after 9/11 and blew it all after invading Iraq.

tbeatty: From April 2009 until January 2010, Dems had 60 caucus members.


Also nope.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have- 60 -votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/

From July 7. 2009 (when Al Franken was officially seated as the Senator from Minnesota after the last of Norm Coleman's challenges came to an end) to August 25, 2009 (when Ted Kennedy died, although Kennedy's illness had kept him from voting for several weeks before that date at least); and
From September 25, 2009 (when Paul Kirk was appointed to replace Kennedy) to February 4, 2010 (when Scott Brown took office after defeating Martha Coakley);
For one day in September 2009, Republicans lacked 40 votes due to the resignation of Mel Martinez, who was replaced the next day by George LeMieux


Not sure exactly what you mean by "trouble" unless you're referring to Joe Lieberman who stated he never would vote on anything resembling single payer.

 
2014-07-18 06:33:31 AM  
Reality Version: Women can have all the birth control they want if they're willing to do something crazy like... pay for it themselves.

But in liberal lala land unless it comes from the government or is required by the government, it's 'being denied' to you.

Hey! The government didn't buy me the cookies I bought at the store yesterday, why is the government denying me cookies?
 
2014-07-18 08:59:16 AM  

randomjsa: Reality Version: Women can have all the birth control they want if they're willing to do something crazy like... pay for it themselves.


They are paying for it themselves. It's called work. Until Hobby Lobby, health care including birth control was part of their compensation package, aka what they worked for. It's part of the compensation I work for. "The government" wasn't involved in paying for jack sh*t, only asking that BC be included in the compensation that all people earned as part of their jobs under the ACA.

But then you knew that already and just decided, as usual, to be a disingenuous asshole.

/yes, I fed the troll
///I was bored
 
2014-07-18 09:55:28 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: It ain't society that gets pregnant. Individuals should be responsible for their own lives. But feel free to start a contraceptive charity that will provide free contraceptives. Someone was saying it's really cheap so why expand government? Lots of rich people would be happy as hell to contribute to that.


Congrats on supporting an idea championed by every conservative in every country and society that has ever lived on planet Earth during the last 3,000 years - and has failed every time.

It's like some people are incapable of studying human psychology, physiology, history, or biology and learning anything useful about human drives.

Expanding freely available birth control solves so many problems it's silly to even debate.  And it literally pays for itself hundreds of thousands of times over.
 
2014-07-18 12:46:50 PM  

tbeatty: This is also jut a stunt because even if the senate passed such a bill, the house would not.  Why are they even wasting time on it?  we pay them for his?


You know, dude, it's pretty ridiculous to scream that "it's not obstruction, it's Obama's personality", and then go on to describe the very obstruction you claim doesn't exist.

Then again, being ridiculous has never seemed to bother you, so...
 
2014-07-18 03:28:14 PM  
tbeatty:[various comments]

I see you still haven't answered my question on where you got that 45 and 55 from...
 
2014-07-18 03:29:46 PM  

friday13: tbeatty:[various comments]

I see you still haven't answered my question on where you got that 45 and 55 from...


Wait, sorry, wrong person...

Shoulda been this guy:

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Can you math?

$30 + ($15-25) x 13 = $225-355

Can you?

At the low end, $30 + $15($45) x 13 = $585
At the high end, $30 + $25 ($55) x 13 = $715

Even just $30 x 13 = $390, which is out of your stated range....


HE needs to explain where those numbers (again in bold) came from...
 
2014-07-18 07:56:55 PM  

friday13: friday13: tbeatty:[various comments]

I see you still haven't answered my question on where you got that 45 and 55 from...

Wait, sorry, wrong person...

Shoulda been this guy:

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Can you math?

$30 + ($15-25) x 13 = $225-355

Can you?

At the low end, $30 + $15($45) x 13 = $585
At the high end, $30 + $25 ($55) x 13 = $715

Even just $30 x 13 = $390, which is out of your stated range....

HE needs to explain where those numbers (again in bold) came from...


While conceding that it wasn't well expressed, is Addition your short suit?

30+15=45. Then: 45*13=585.

That's the low end argued by tbeatty.

I don't need to do the high end, do I?
 
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