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(CNN)   GOP releases audio it claims will prove an Obama cabinet member broke the law. Surely, this is Obama's Immigrant Katrina Benghazi Bergdahl Arugula Gate, right?   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 162
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2014-07-17 06:32:05 AM
Fine, you know what?  Impeach Obama over this, I farking dare you.  Do it!  Right now. You know you want to you're just psyching yourself up for it.  DO IT!
 
2014-07-17 07:32:47 AM
Welp, sounds like that Solis bastard really needs to resign.


/I'm outraged.  I promise, I really *YAAAAAAAAAAWN* ...am.
 
2014-07-17 09:11:07 AM
According to a letter from the OSC to Solis that was obtained by CNN from the same Republican source, it opened an investigation of the matter but ended it without drawing any final conclusions in January 2013 because Solis left her Cabinet position.

"In conformance with OSC's policy not to continue investigations once an employee leaves federal service, OSC will close its investigation of this matter," the letter reads.


CLEARLY YET ANOTHER SCANDALOUS FARTBAMA COVERUP!
 
2014-07-17 10:32:57 AM

incendi: According to a letter from the OSC to Solis that was obtained by CNN from the same Republican source, it opened an investigation of the matter but ended it without drawing any final conclusions in January 2013 because Solis left her Cabinet position.

"In conformance with OSC's policy not to continue investigations once an employee leaves federal service, OSC will close its investigation of this matter," the letter reads.


CLEARLY YET ANOTHER SCANDALOUS FARTBAMA COVERUP!


lawlessness. pure lawlessness.
 
2014-07-17 10:43:44 AM
GOP: We can't find proof of any wrong-doing, so there must be a cover up!
 
2014-07-17 10:50:45 AM
Well that does it, I'm never voting for Obama again.
 
2014-07-17 10:53:13 AM

Ambivalence: Fine, you know what?  Impeach Obama over this, I farking dare you.  Do it!  Right now. You know you want to you're just psyching yourself up for it.  DO IT!


Agreed.  Come on, GOP, either sh*t or get off the pot.
 
2014-07-17 10:53:28 AM
Only one of them broke the law?  Huh.  I would have thought there would be more.
 
2014-07-17 10:54:28 AM
That's it, she better get fired or-...

What?

She left?

Last year?

Oh...
 
2014-07-17 10:55:55 AM
hisvorpal.files.wordpress.com

Obama!
 
2014-07-17 10:56:32 AM
It's such a scandal that Issa shut down his own hearing on the matter because the one witness who showed up was going to say that no wrongdoing had occurred.  Can't have THAT going into the official record, now can we?
 
2014-07-17 10:57:47 AM

Drubell: That's it, she better get fired or-...

What?

She left?

Last year?

Oh...


So allegedly breaking the law isn't important if you either voluntarily resign or are fired. Did the law magically get unbroken when she tendered her resignation?
 
2014-07-17 10:58:14 AM
Great.  Now the GOP can restore honor to the presidency, and then take a steaming dump on the country.
 
2014-07-17 10:59:11 AM
dem comments. niiiice
 
2014-07-17 10:59:22 AM
I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.
 
2014-07-17 10:59:36 AM
So someone who isn't even in Obama's cabinet anymore left a voice mail in 2012 asking someone to help organize for a political fundraiser in violation of the Hatch Act?

Uh-huh... and? This is bad news for Obama?

This is an outrage?  Really?

Not feeling it.

...Issa has abused his power in his investigation, repeatedly issuing subpoenas without consulting the full committee.

See, now *that* one I felt.
 
2014-07-17 11:00:47 AM

spcMike: Well that does it, I'm never voting for Obama again.


That makes 2 of us!
 
2014-07-17 11:02:49 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.


lolwut
 
2014-07-17 11:03:00 AM

Ambivalence: Fine, you know what?  Impeach Obama over this, I farking dare you.  Do it!  Right now. You know you want to you're just psyching yourself up for it.  DO IT!


Came here to say this. Lets just get it over with. Also, when a Democrat wins in 2016, can we please just start the impeachment on day one? Hopefully then Congress will get something done in the following eight years.
 
2014-07-17 11:04:06 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.


And by "reasonable people" you mean right wing nutjobs, correct?
 
2014-07-17 11:04:33 AM

quatchi: So someone who isn't even in Obama's cabinet anymore left a voice mail in 2012 asking someone to help organize for a political fundraiser in violation of the Hatch Act?

Uh-huh... and? This is bad news for Obama?

This is an outrage?  Really?

Not feeling it.

...Issa has abused his power in his investigation, repeatedly issuing subpoenas without consulting the full committee.

See, now *that* one I felt.


Does issuing a subpoena  require the consultation of the full committee? (It apparently does not, elsewise Rep. Cummings would be recommending Issa to the Ethics Committee) If not, then you are essentially saying that the normal operations of a Congressional committee anger you more than the potential lawbreaking of a Cabinet Secretary. The amazing thing is that you probably won't see this position as being irrational.
 
2014-07-17 11:04:53 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened


FTFY
 
2014-07-17 11:05:40 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.


I know this is a troll, but you realize that Lerner would have to be prescient in order to stage a hard drive failure before the investigation took place.

You'd know that if you were a reasonable person. Anyone who's interested in politics that isn't a partisan hack would know that,
 
2014-07-17 11:05:57 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.


Christie guilty of bridgegate because he is involved in all of his subordinates day to day affairs.

Obama totally not responsible because he has rogue agencies and agents doing whatever they want.
 
2014-07-17 11:08:06 AM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Drubell: That's it, she better get fired or-...

What?

She left?

Last year?

Oh...

So allegedly breaking the law isn't important if you either voluntarily resign or are fired. Did the law magically get unbroken when she tendered her resignation?


Not exactly. But what is the point of pursuing someone for possibly breaking a fairly minor rule like this? Even if she was still around and somehow was convicted the worst thing that would happen is she would be fired or forced to resign. So tell me-what is the point of spending tax money going after her now?
 
2014-07-17 11:09:43 AM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: quatchi: So someone who isn't even in Obama's cabinet anymore left a voice mail in 2012 asking someone to help organize for a political fundraiser in violation of the Hatch Act?

Uh-huh... and? This is bad news for Obama?

This is an outrage?  Really?

Not feeling it.

...Issa has abused his power in his investigation, repeatedly issuing subpoenas without consulting the full committee.

See, now *that* one I felt.

Does issuing a subpoena  require the consultation of the full committee? (It apparently does not, elsewise Rep. Cummings would be recommending Issa to the Ethics Committee) If not, then you are essentially saying that the normal operations of a Congressional committee anger you more than the potential lawbreaking of a Cabinet Secretary. The amazing thing is that you probably won't see this position as being irrational.


Issuing subpoenas was put to a committee vote before Issa took over. Now he issues them at will and in far greater numbers than predecessors.

It's perfectly reasonable to take issue with Issa using thecommittee for partisan fishing expeditions.
 
2014-07-17 11:11:21 AM

Giltric: Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.

Christie guilty of bridgegate because he is involved in all of his subordinates day to day affairs.

Obama totally not responsible because he has rogue agencies and agents doing whatever they want.


This has nothing to do with guns. You have no business here. Back in your bunker.
 
2014-07-17 11:11:51 AM
We've got you now, Obama!  You won't get away this time!
 
2014-07-17 11:12:13 AM

GTATL: Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.

I know this is a troll, but you realize that Lerner would have to be prescient in order to stage a hard drive failure before the investigation took place.

You'd know that if you were a reasonable person. Anyone who's interested in politics that isn't a partisan hack would know that,


Obama let her use his time machine to go back and crash the servers after the investigation began
 
2014-07-17 11:12:18 AM
tehresistance.files.wordpress.com

 Is that all you got, Pussy?
 
2014-07-17 11:12:24 AM
I'm convinced Darrell Issa just needs to get laid more often. That would surely put an end to his shenanigans.
 
2014-07-17 11:13:26 AM

Giltric: Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this, but we all know the IRS targeting was politically motivated and all those computers mysteriously crashing and hard drives being destroyed was all to get rid of the evidence of that.  I don't think any reasonable person doubts that is what happened, but modern politicians have learned from Watergate - insulate yourself from the deed and for godsakes, don't leave a paper trail.  It was the tapes that did Nixon in, and those emails on Lerner's computer would likely have been tantamount to those tapes, so they had to go.

Christie guilty of bridgegate because he is involved in all of his subordinates day to day affairs.

Obama totally not responsible because he has rogue agencies and agents doing whatever they want.


Except that Obama has far more people in his administration than Christie, and the person responsible in Christie's case was a deputy chief of staff. If you can't point to someone in the Obama administration at a similar level that is clearly guilty of malicious criminal activity, I'd like to know.

But keep comparing apples to oranges. There's a reason no member of the  non-derp media has ever compared the two.
 
2014-07-17 11:13:57 AM
I understand that the comment below will not add anything to the discussion:

So, the folks who voted for George Bush's war are now looking for accountability from the Oval office?

Suck. My. Dick.

/That is all
 
2014-07-17 11:14:39 AM

Tor_Eckman: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Drubell: That's it, she better get fired or-...

What?

She left?

Last year?

Oh...

So allegedly breaking the law isn't important if you either voluntarily resign or are fired. Did the law magically get unbroken when she tendered her resignation?

Not exactly. But what is the point of pursuing someone for possibly breaking a fairly minor rule like this? Even if she was still around and somehow was convicted the worst thing that would happen is she would be fired or forced to resign. So tell me-what is the point of spending tax money going after her now?


Because this is all they have. This is the new Whitewater. They promised to uncover shady real estate deals and cover ups, and ended up with trying to get America upset about blow jobs.

Conservatives have promised their funders an impeachment, and they intend to deliver. BTW, they plan on impeaching every Democratic president we have from now until the inevitable collapse of the Republic.
 
2014-07-17 11:14:44 AM
Feckless lawlessness from our Imposter in Chief.
 
2014-07-17 11:15:02 AM
That's it. Obama's toast. Or was that Jesus? Or Mary? Who was on the toast? I smell cover-up. And toast. Yummmmmm.
 
2014-07-17 11:16:58 AM
i48.tinypic.com

YOU GOT NOTHING!
 
2014-07-17 11:21:13 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Tor_Eckman: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Drubell: That's it, she better get fired or-...

What?

She left?

Last year?

Oh...

So allegedly breaking the law isn't important if you either voluntarily resign or are fired. Did the law magically get unbroken when she tendered her resignation?

Not exactly. But what is the point of pursuing someone for possibly breaking a fairly minor rule like this? Even if she was still around and somehow was convicted the worst thing that would happen is she would be fired or forced to resign. So tell me-what is the point of spending tax money going after her now?

Because this is all they have. This is the new Whitewater. They promised to uncover shady real estate deals and cover ups, and ended up with trying to get America upset about blow jobs.

Conservatives have promised their funders an impeachment, and they intend to deliver. BTW, they plan on impeaching every Democratic president we have from now until the inevitable collapse of the Republic.


Hell, I know that. But the guy I responded to claims he is an accountant and a fiscal conservative. So I want to hear him justify spending money on this wild goose chase.
 
2014-07-17 11:22:17 AM

Tor_Eckman: Even if she was still around and somehow was convicted the worst thing that would happen is she would be fired or forced to resign. So tell me-what is the point of spending tax money going after her now?


We should ignore violations of law if the person violating the law "self punishes" by resigning her position (something she only did when she ran for the LA Board)? What other "minor" violations of the law are you willing to overlook?

GTATL: Issuing subpoenas was put to a committee vote before Issa took over.


As far as I can tell from the subcommittee rules, Issa is well within his rights as Chair to unilaterally issue subpoenas. So I am not sure what the issue is here.
 
2014-07-17 11:22:52 AM
Is it as good as the Whitey tape?
 
2014-07-17 11:23:09 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I understand that the comment below will not add anything to the discussion:

So, the folks who voted for George Bush's war are now looking for accountability from the Oval office?

Suck. My. Dick.

/That is all


In addition, this past week, Dick Cheney declared Obama "The worst POTUS in history." And if anyone is familiar with "Worst POTUS" candidates, Dick is.
 
2014-07-17 11:23:33 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I understand that the comment below will not add anything to the discussion:

So, the folks who voted for George Bush's war are now looking for accountability from the Oval office?

Suck. My. Dick.

/That is all


Bush must always be added the discussion. It's a fark rule or something.
 
2014-07-17 11:24:37 AM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: quatchi: So someone who isn't even in Obama's cabinet anymore left a voice mail in 2012 asking someone to help organize for a political fundraiser in violation of the Hatch Act?

Uh-huh... and? This is bad news for Obama?

This is an outrage?  Really?

Not feeling it.

...Issa has abused his power in his investigation, repeatedly issuing subpoenas without consulting the full committee.

See, now *that* one I felt.


Does issuing a subpoena  require the consultation of the full committee? (It apparently does not, elsewise Rep. Cummings would be recommending Issa to the Ethics Committee) If not, then you are essentially saying that the normal operations of a Congressional committee anger you more than the potential lawbreaking of a Cabinet Secretary. The amazing thing is that you probably won't see this position as being irrational.

The normal operations of a full committee? That's what you think Issa is doing with this fishing expedition?

Let's just say I find the fact that Cummings felt he had to issue a statement saying Issa is doing a lot of his subpoenaing without any oversight or consultation or input from the committee more significant than the fact that he managed to find an apparent Hatch Act violation from 2 years ago.

Find a current member of Obama's cabinet violating it and I'll cheerfully call for their resignation but until then this is just Issa sifting through mountains of data in order to try and discredit the Dems in any way he can and nothing more.
 
2014-07-17 11:25:51 AM
pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-07-17 11:29:44 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I don't know about this


This.
 
2014-07-17 11:30:43 AM
The_Six_Fingered_Man:

GTATL: Issuing subpoenas was put to a committee vote before Issa took over.

As far as I can tell from the subcommittee rules, Issa is well within his rights as Chair to unilaterally issue subpoenas. So I am not sure what the issue is here.


Are you being willfully obtuse? I never said it wasn't within his rights.

The part you didn't quote, where i said he's issued more subpoenas that his predecessors, and that his investigation are merely fishing expeditions, can reasonable be criticized.

Conduct rather than criminality is what is being criticized. I'm surprised you couldn't parse that. I'd suggest reading a bit slower so you comprehend.
 
2014-07-17 11:31:47 AM

Ambivalence: Fine, you know what?  Impeach Obama over this, I farking dare you.  Do it!  Right now. You know you want to you're just psyching yourself up for it.  DO IT!


Dear God, I wish they would. Not because I want Obama to be impeached, but because I want people to realize that the GOP impeached two Democratic Presidents in a row for no real reason.
 
2014-07-17 11:33:59 AM

Cletus C.: DROxINxTHExWIND: I understand that the comment below will not add anything to the discussion:

So, the folks who voted for George Bush's war are now looking for accountability from the Oval office?

Suck. My. Dick.

/That is all

Bush must always be added the discussion. It's a fark rule or something.



Yeah, I know you want to forget your stupidity as you rail against the current administration, but no.


/Not yours
 
2014-07-17 11:35:46 AM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Tor_Eckman: Even if she was still around and somehow was convicted the worst thing that would happen is she would be fired or forced to resign. So tell me-what is the point of spending tax money going after her now?

We should ignore violations of law if the person violating the law "self punishes" by resigning her position (something she only did when she ran for the LA Board)? What other "minor" violations of the law are you willing to overlook?

GTATL: Issuing subpoenas was put to a committee vote before Issa took over.

As far as I can tell from the subcommittee rules, Issa is well within his rights as Chair to unilaterally issue subpoenas. So I am not sure what the issue is here.


As a fiscal conservative, please tell me how you justify spending taxpayer money on pursuing this.
 
2014-07-17 11:37:02 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Cletus C.: DROxINxTHExWIND: I understand that the comment below will not add anything to the discussion:

So, the folks who voted for George Bush's war are now looking for accountability from the Oval office?

Suck. My. Dick.

/That is all

Bush must always be added the discussion. It's a fark rule or something.


Yeah, I know you want to forget your stupidity as you rail against the current administration, but no.


/Not yours


So, Bush? That's what I said.
 
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