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2014-07-17 12:00:21 AM  
It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.
 
2014-07-17 12:43:39 AM  
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
 
2014-07-17 12:51:39 AM  
What's with all the TV shows based on one shot 90s movies? This, From Dusk Till Dawn, Fargo and to a lesser extent Hannibal? From Dusk till Dawn they already finished the movie in the first season.
 
2014-07-17 01:39:10 AM  
Uh, that looks kinda shiatty.
 
2014-07-17 01:47:37 AM  
I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds of that. The movie is just so perfect. Madeline Stowe was the hotness.

"The Freedom For Animals Association on 2nd Avenue is the-is the secret headquarters of the Army of the 12 Monkeys. They're the ones who are going to do it. I can't do anymore, I have to go now. Have a Merry Christmas."
 
2014-07-17 01:47:53 AM  
Perhaps they'll do as good with this project as Battlestar Galactica turned out.
 
2014-07-17 01:53:13 AM  
This can only be awful
 
2014-07-17 02:08:33 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.


Wasn't he in an asylum? He didn't think he was nuts, he was out of his mind. Could have been from drugs he was fed and his treatment.
This looks a lot more cleaned up, I don't like it
 
2014-07-17 02:12:56 AM  
WHY?
 
2014-07-17 02:15:00 AM  
This guy's nose isn't nearly as interesting as Bruce Willis'.
 
2014-07-17 02:18:32 AM  

lindseyp: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_pKNtYwlGo

Looks Meh.
 
2014-07-17 02:24:16 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.


which ruins the whole concept.

robohobo: "The Freedom For Animals Association on 2nd Avenue is the-is the secret headquarters of the Army of the 12 Monkeys. They're the ones who are going to do it. I can't do anymore, I have to go now. Have a Merry Christmas."


Even just reading that gave me chills.  No way a show can touch that.

Boo.
 
2014-07-17 02:43:27 AM  

PanicMan: Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.

which ruins the whole concept.

robohobo: "The Freedom For Animals Association on 2nd Avenue is the-is the secret headquarters of the Army of the 12 Monkeys. They're the ones who are going to do it. I can't do anymore, I have to go now. Have a Merry Christmas."

Even just reading that gave me chills.  No way a show can touch that.

Boo.


I always hear it as Stowe's reconstructed message in the future. And no, there's no way some show on SYFY can touch it.
 
2014-07-17 02:57:21 AM  
Add me to the "what exactly is the point of this?" club. The movie was pretty much darned near perfect, about as perfect as any time travel movie can be. If the TV show is just a rehash of that, it's pointless. If they make it so that changes to the future can be made, then it ruins the entire premise of the movie. 

The only way I could possibly imagine a TV show of 12 Monkeys being remotely interesting is if it is either about the years between the end of the movie and the future when Bruce Willis is sent back or if it is about what happens in the future after the "I'm in insurance" lady brings back the early sample of the virus.
 
2014-07-17 03:28:29 AM  
It looked decent to me. I thought that dude was John Malkovich though :-0. Such embarrassment, so unworthy.
 
2014-07-17 03:29:52 AM  
12 Monkeys was the movie that showed me that Brad Pitt could actually act.
 
2014-07-17 03:32:41 AM  

mamoru: Add me to the "what exactly is the point of this?" club. The movie was pretty much darned near perfect, about as perfect as any time travel movie can be. If the TV show is just a rehash of that, it's pointless. If they make it so that changes to the future can be made, then it ruins the entire premise of the movie. 

The only way I could possibly imagine a TV show of 12 Monkeys being remotely interesting is if it is either about the years between the end of the movie and the future when Bruce Willis is sent back or if it is about what happens in the future after the "I'm in insurance" lady brings back the early sample of the virus.


I'll watch it, but I'm also in the camp of "the movie was pretty damn near perfect".  The plot was as much about the thin line between insanity and reality as it was about some future apocalypse.  Unless the trailers just aren't showing the decidedly bizarre Terry Gilliam touches then the TV show is going to be really kind of... off.

Dunno, they could pull it off, but I'd much rather they show us more about the before and after.

Mugato: From Dusk till Dawn they already finished the movie in the first season.


The key difference I think with FDTD was that the original screenwriter and director (Robert Rodriguez) wasn't only involved in the project, he spearheaded it.  Despite the ample story changes, what was added was really in the same tone, more or less, as the original.  It made it feel less like them trying to expand the movie and more like an alternate take on its plot. Sort of an Earth-2 to the original movie's Earth-1, if you want to go with that.

If they can pull off that same kind of feel with this series then it might very well work out.  Make us question what's the same and what is going to be different, so that even the people who've seen the movie before are left guessing.
 
2014-07-17 03:38:47 AM  

Ed Grubermann: 12 Monkeys was the movie that showed me that Brad Pitt could actually act.


I've had numerous people involved with mental health facilities (staff or patients) tell me that his behavior was spot on for the mental issues he was supposed to have, to a degree they'd not seen in film before.  That's some talent.

Also, my first clue that he could really act was Fight Club, though I must admit he was amusing as hell to watch in Meet Joe Black.

/Peanut Butter?
 
2014-07-17 03:47:17 AM  
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"Don't mock me my friend. It's a condition of mental divergence. I find myself on the planet Ogo, part of an intellectual elite, preparing to subjugate the barbarian hordes on Pluto. But even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Ogo is actually a construct of my psyche. I am mentally divergent, in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here. When I stop going there, I will be well. Are you also divergent, friend?"
 
2014-07-17 04:12:38 AM  
That looks like it was done on the super-cheap, like SyFy picked up somebody's crappy student film. And is it so hard to maintain logical consistency within the short space of a damn trailer?

"Everyone is dead! You're dead!" the weak-chinned lead screams at a woman, right after telling her he knows her from the future because she's the one who sent him, which means she's one of the few people from his perspective who is decidedly not dead. Yeah, if that's any indication of the amount of thought behind this project, this is going to be a real Emmy winner.
 
2014-07-17 05:35:56 AM  
What's in the box?!?
 
2014-07-17 06:01:11 AM  
Was it filtered through some sort of probability matrix?
 
2014-07-17 06:13:39 AM  

EdgeRunner: That looks like it was done on the super-cheap, like SyFy picked up somebody's crappy student film. And is it so hard to maintain logical consistency within the short space of a damn trailer?

"Everyone is dead! You're dead!" the weak-chinned lead screams at a woman, right after telling her he knows her from the future because she's the one who sent him, which means she's one of the few people from his perspective who is decidedly not dead. Yeah, if that's any indication of the amount of thought behind this project, this is going to be a real Emmy winner.


Don't forget, in the future this already won 12 [MONKEYS] Emmys.
 
2014-07-17 06:22:24 AM  
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2014-07-17 07:04:58 AM  
Well that looks awful.
 
2014-07-17 07:17:03 AM  
It's been awhile since I've watched the movie.  All this trailer did was make me want to watch that instead of this terrible-looking tv show.

Why was this made?
 
2014-07-17 07:26:33 AM  

slayer199: Was it filtered through some sort of probability matrix?


No, no the matrix was being used so we had to filter it through a probability matress instead.
 
2014-07-17 07:43:23 AM  
If this was called anything else, I'd give it more leeway. But it looks like they took everything about 12 monkeys that made it memorable, unique and awesome and shiatcanned it, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not expecting anything from this.
 
2014-07-17 07:49:47 AM  
stop remaking good movies.  if they're going to remake sci-fi movies from the 90s, they should start with johnny mnemonic.  that movie was pretty crappy but a remake with better direction and effects could be great.
 
2014-07-17 08:18:02 AM  
I swore to never watch SyFy again after they canned EUREKA, and except for watching two episodes of
Wil Wheaton's show, I have held to that vow and my life is richer for it.
 
2014-07-17 08:23:28 AM  

yukichigai: Ed Grubermann: 12 Monkeys was the movie that showed me that Brad Pitt could actually act.

I've had numerous people involved with mental health facilities (staff or patients) tell me that his behavior was spot on for the mental issues he was supposed to have, to a degree they'd not seen in film before.  That's some talent.

Also, my first clue that he could really act was Fight Club, though I must admit he was amusing as hell to watch in Meet Joe Black.

/Peanut Butter?


Was he in Fight Club?
 
2014-07-17 08:29:43 AM  

EdgeRunner: That looks like it was done on the super-cheap, like SyFy picked up somebody's crappy student film. And is it so hard to maintain logical consistency within the short space of a damn trailer?

"Everyone is dead! You're dead!" the weak-chinned lead screams at a woman, right after telling her he knows her from the future because she's the one who sent him, which means she's one of the few people from his perspective who is decidedly not dead. Yeah, if that's any indication of the amount of thought behind this project, this is going to be a real Emmy winner.


Even a James Cameron epic is gonna look impoverished next to a Terry Gilliam work. No way TV can deliver. No way.
 
2014-07-17 08:44:33 AM  

robohobo: PanicMan: Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.

which ruins the whole concept.

robohobo: "The Freedom For Animals Association on 2nd Avenue is the-is the secret headquarters of the Army of the 12 Monkeys. They're the ones who are going to do it. I can't do anymore, I have to go now. Have a Merry Christmas."

Even just reading that gave me chills.  No way a show can touch that.

Boo.

I always hear it as Stowe's reconstructed message in the future. And no, there's no way some show on SYFY can touch it.


Oh yes that wonderfully scratchy broken recording.

The Hamster Factor is on YouTube. I may have to watch that today.
 
2014-07-17 09:13:03 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: I swore to never watch SyFy again after they canned EUREKA, and except for watching two episodes of
Wil Wheaton's show, I have held to that vow and my life is richer for it.


Eureka was running out of steam.  I love the show, and am actually halfway through a rewatch at the moment, but they were running out of good ideas.  Although I would have preferred Syfy gave them a final half-season instead of just a single episode to wrap things up.

What stinks is that Syfy has no more sci-fi comedy left on it, since Eureka and Warehouse 13 ended.
 
2014-07-17 09:19:13 AM  
Ahem...http://vimeo.com/46620661 "La Jetee" anyone?
 
2014-07-17 09:24:42 AM  

NeoCortex42: DjangoStonereaver: I swore to never watch SyFy again after they canned EUREKA, and except for watching two episodes of
Wil Wheaton's show, I have held to that vow and my life is richer for it.

Eureka was running out of steam.  I love the show, and am actually halfway through a rewatch at the moment, but they were running out of good ideas.  Although I would have preferred Syfy gave them a final half-season instead of just a single episode to wrap things up.


As I recall, the original plan was to give them 2 more seasons then wrap it up, but very abruptly a couple
of months after they made that announcement they said "Um, we'll give them one more abbreviated
season to wrap it up", which I'm sure screwed the producers plans (I'm sure, for example, that the whole
'virtual reality' fakeout was supposed to be an entire season in itself, rather than just a 4 episodes).

What stinks is that Syfy has no more sci-fi comedy left on it, since Eureka and Warehouse 13 ended.

I never got into WAREHOUSE 13, but I liked the idea of it
 
2014-07-17 09:39:34 AM  
"First trailer for 12 Monkeys. This is not some weird time-travel paradox "

Two minutes ago, two years ago, it doesn't matter subby. It's all the same to them. They do their reconstruction shiat on it.
 
2014-07-17 09:45:07 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.


I'm not sure that this is Willis' character. I think in the movie they mentioned that others had gone back before. If they take that track, it might be OK, at least story-wise, but if they are trying to play Bruce Willis' actual character here, it's going to suck. There's nothing guaranteeing that it still won't suck, but it will at least stand a chance if the series is portraying an earlier attempt to go back and fix things.

NeoCortex42: What stinks is that Syfy has no more sci-fi comedy left on it, since Eureka and Warehouse 13 ended.


Wow, I didn't realize that silly 'Defining Moment' episode was the finale. It was fun, but wasn't really "finale" material. Eureka was fun too, but I agree it was running out of steam, they still could have handled it better, especially by not announcing the cancellation 3 days after it made the news for being Sci Fi's most watched show ever( I believe that was when they made the announcement). SciFi can't handle successful shows, they demonstrated that with farking Battlestar Glactica. They are much better at these crappy-ass movies.
 
2014-07-17 09:55:23 AM  

Mikey1969: Because People in power are Stupid: It looks like the whole angle of Bruce Willis's character thinking that he might be insane is thrown out.

I'm not sure that this is Willis' character. I think in the movie they mentioned that others had gone back before. If they take that track, it might be OK, at least story-wise, but if they are trying to play Bruce Willis' actual character here, it's going to suck. There's nothing guaranteeing that it still won't suck, but it will at least stand a chance if the series is portraying an earlier attempt to go back and fix things.

NeoCortex42: What stinks is that Syfy has no more sci-fi comedy left on it, since Eureka and Warehouse 13 ended.

Wow, I didn't realize that silly 'Defining Moment' episode was the finale. It was fun, but wasn't really "finale" material. Eureka was fun too, but I agree it was running out of steam, they still could have handled it better, especially by not announcing the cancellation 3 days after it made the news for being Sci Fi's most watched show ever( I believe that was when they made the announcement). SciFi can't handle successful shows, they demonstrated that with farking Battlestar Glactica. They are much better at these crappy-ass movies.


In the trailer they clearly call him Cole, which was Bruce's characters name
 
2014-07-17 09:57:52 AM  

enderthexenocide: stop remaking good movies. if they're going to remake sci-fi movies from the 90s, they should start with johnny mnemonic.  that movie was pretty crappy but a remake with better direction and effects could be great.


LOLOLOLOLOL.................

toooooo funny.
 
2014-07-17 10:04:19 AM  

nightronin: In the trailer they clearly call him Cole, which was Bruce's characters name


Fark, you're right. Missed it the first go-'round. Dammit, one more waste of time for SciFi.
 
2014-07-17 10:10:51 AM  
I don't really get the Scy Fy hate. Other than the name. They've put out some decent - not always awesome, but decent - shows the last few years.

They re-purposed Being Human from the BBC, which was a lot of fun (and it even had a GOOD ending!). Eureka and Warehouse 13 were great. Lost Girl has been good, until this last season. Continuum is farking EPIC and is really one of my favorites. There's also that werewolf show, the name of which I cannot remember this morning, and it was surprisingly decent too. They also did a reality show that I.... I liked. It had two camps of people, the winners of the challenges got to live in luxury, the losers in a cave... was fun in and of itself.

Are they perfect? No. Is it on par with Game of Thrones? No, but nothing is. But... they don't entirely suck anymore.
 
2014-07-17 10:20:36 AM  

AkaranD: I don't really get the Scy Fy hate. Other than the name. They've put out some decent - not always awesome, but decent - shows the last few years.


Some of us are still pissed that they canceled MST3K.

/although Rifftrax is better if more unwieldy
 
2014-07-17 10:25:26 AM  

AkaranD: I don't really get the Scy Fy hate. Other than the name. They've put out some decent - not always awesome, but decent - shows the last few years.

They re-purposed Being Human from the BBC, which was a lot of fun (and it even had a GOOD ending!). Eureka and Warehouse 13 were great. Lost Girl has been good, until this last season. Continuum is farking EPIC and is really one of my favorites. There's also that werewolf show, the name of which I cannot remember this morning, and it was surprisingly decent too. They also did a reality show that I.... I liked. It had two camps of people, the winners of the challenges got to live in luxury, the losers in a cave... was fun in and of itself.

Are they perfect? No. Is it on par with Game of Thrones? No, but nothing is. But... they don't entirely suck anymore.


Well, Lost Girl and Continuum aren't Syfy productions.  So that might help explain their quality.  Syfy just airs them.  They're produced by a Canadian station.

Unfortunately, Syfy's tentpole shows are pretty weak.  Helix was advertised something like six months or more before it even premiered.  That wound up being a steaming mess on par with Under the Dome.  Defiance is spectacularly mediocre.  It's not bad, but if it suddenly got cancelled tomorrow, I don't think there would be much uproar.  Then there's their latest masterpiece, Dominion.  I barely made it through the premiere of that.

The problem with Syfy is that they've had some great shows over the years, but it seems like they can't follow-up with new series when they cancel one.
 
2014-07-17 10:58:24 AM  
Can't be bothered to watch it anyway. With 22 minutes of commercials per hour and the same 4-5 shown over and over, I lose interest quickly, I'll wait for teh netflix.
 
2014-07-17 11:07:56 AM  

enderthexenocide: stop remaking good movies.  if they're going to remake sci-fi movies from the 90s, they should start with johnny mnemonic.  that movie was pretty crappy but a remake with better direction and effects could be great.


I agree, someone should get right on that...
sandboxtactics.com
 
2014-07-17 11:11:31 AM  

enderthexenocide: stop remaking good movies.  if they're going to remake sci-fi movies from the 90s, they should start with johnny mnemonic.  that movie was pretty crappy but a remake with better direction and effects could be great.


Remake?  How can you possibly improve on a movie that features assassin-Jesus getting killed by a psychic dolphin that works with Ice-T?
 
2014-07-17 11:33:38 AM  

NeoCortex42: AkaranD: I don't really get the Scy Fy hate. Other than the name. They've put out some decent - not always awesome, but decent - shows the last few years.

They re-purposed Being Human from the BBC, which was a lot of fun (and it even had a GOOD ending!). Eureka and Warehouse 13 were great. Lost Girl has been good, until this last season. Continuum is farking EPIC and is really one of my favorites. There's also that werewolf show, the name of which I cannot remember this morning, and it was surprisingly decent too. They also did a reality show that I.... I liked. It had two camps of people, the winners of the challenges got to live in luxury, the losers in a cave... was fun in and of itself.

Are they perfect? No. Is it on par with Game of Thrones? No, but nothing is. But... they don't entirely suck anymore.

Well, Lost Girl and Continuum aren't Syfy productions.  So that might help explain their quality.  Syfy just airs them.  They're produced by a Canadian station.

Unfortunately, Syfy's tentpole shows are pretty weak.  Helix was advertised something like six months or more before it even premiered.  That wound up being a steaming mess on par with Under the Dome.  Defiance is spectacularly mediocre.  It's not bad, but if it suddenly got cancelled tomorrow, I don't think there would be much uproar.  Then there's their latest masterpiece, Dominion.  I barely made it through the premiere of that.

The problem with Syfy is that they've had some great shows over the years, but it seems like they can't follow-up with new series when they cancel one.


About the only new show that has me a little intrigued is the 50's in space.
 
2014-07-17 11:38:53 AM  

scumshine: Can't be bothered to watch it anyway. With 22 minutes of commercials per hour and the same 4-5 shown over and over, I lose interest quickly, I'll wait for teh netflix.


Here in the 21st century we have these things called DVRs that make skipping ads really easy.
 
2014-07-17 11:52:00 AM  
Been there done that.
That done there been.
 
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