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2014-07-16 04:32:11 PM
media.boingboing.net
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.
 
2014-07-16 04:59:59 PM
What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?
 
2014-07-16 05:25:18 PM

Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?


My thoughts exactly.
 
2014-07-16 06:14:17 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

My thoughts exactly.


My first thought was that Obama should veto it for the lulz.
 
2014-07-16 08:02:48 PM
It probably includes mandatory security backdoors as well.
 
2014-07-16 08:03:44 PM
Drifting away from the politics... does ths mean that phone manufacturers and cell phone providers will finally run out of excuses to make ever-so-slightly different models from one carrier to the next?
 
2014-07-16 08:04:32 PM
False flag. Head for the shelters folks.
 
2014-07-16 08:05:49 PM

Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?


Agreed. My first thought was to wonder why the carriers weren't in there fighting it.
 
2014-07-16 08:06:15 PM
I will read the article in a minute. I have to process the headline. I am still kinda doubtful that what subby says is true.
 
2014-07-16 08:07:58 PM
So I guess Verizon et al. did not have the money to lobby congress.

This is so improbable I am waiting for the other shoe to drop.
 
2014-07-16 08:08:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

My thoughts exactly.


withfriendship.com
 
2014-07-16 08:11:08 PM
From another article:
"Assuming the bill does pass, it's not exactly a towering achievement-it's somewhat redundant since the carriers basically gave up and   several months ago under pressure from the FCC. AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular have all agreed to put those "voluntary industry principles" into effect."
 
2014-07-16 08:12:06 PM

MrBallou: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

My thoughts exactly.

My first thought was that Obama should veto it for the lulz.


That would be AWESOME!
 
2014-07-16 08:14:23 PM

Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?


Verizon didn't bribe them enough, this is their punishment.
 
2014-07-16 08:16:00 PM

cchris_39: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

Agreed. My first thought was to wonder why the carriers weren't in there fighting it.


Pretty much this.  Especially when so many Congressf*ckers like this shiatheel Marsha Blackburn here are actively campaigning to protect big telecoms from even the hint and threat of competition - what exactly is in this bill that made the money people comfortable enough with it to allow it to go through?
 
2014-07-16 08:16:38 PM
I only buy new unlocked phones -- how does this help?
 
2014-07-16 08:22:41 PM
I'm probably misunderstanding what this means, but did they wait until after iPhones were not att specific to do this? Would it have been more difficult back then?
 
2014-07-16 08:29:34 PM

bdub77: [media.boingboing.net image 850x850]
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.


every article, on any topic, should have the buttcoin gif
 
2014-07-16 08:39:28 PM

bdub77: [media.boingboing.net image 850x850]
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.


Not only was the pic a bad fit for the article it took up 3 times more page space than the actual article.

That noted the do-nothing Congress finally actually did something and it wasn't something terrible so I'd say that calls for drinks all around.
 
2014-07-16 08:41:02 PM

bdub77: [media.boingboing.net image 850x850]
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.


It IS stupid. the reason is that most news institutions have fired their staff photographers.All they have left is iPhone/instagram dorks They would rather have an 18 year old intern go to istockphoto and search for some key words and use whatever comes up than take a new picture. Hey morans, for $50 I''ll take a picture of a cell phone for you. Cash only.
 
2014-07-16 08:42:59 PM

KarmicDisaster: Hey morans, for $50 I''ll take a picture of a cell phone for you.


how can u take a picture of ur own fone???

img.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-16 08:44:08 PM

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: Hey morans, for $50 I''ll take a picture of a cell phone for you.

how can u take a picture of ur own fone???

[img.photobucket.com image 65x22]


Mirror. That's why I'm worth $50.
 
2014-07-16 08:48:10 PM

clkeagle: Drifting away from the politics... does ths mean that phone manufacturers and cell phone providers will finally run out of excuses to make ever-so-slightly different models from one carrier to the next?


No - a new excuse to charge more.
 
2014-07-16 08:49:47 PM

KarmicDisaster: bdub77: [media.boingboing.net image 850x850]
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.

It IS stupid. the reason is that most news institutions have fired their staff photographers.All they have left is iPhone/instagram dorks They would rather have an 18 year old intern go to istockphoto and search for some key words and use whatever comes up than take a new picture. Hey morans, for $50 I''ll take a picture of a cell phone for you. Cash only.


I seem to remember an article linked on Fark a few years ago about age discrimination, and instead of even using a proper stock photo, the author apparently went with the first thing she found on GIS when she searched for the words "too old".  Which was a picture of Pedobear.
 
2014-07-16 08:51:21 PM
Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless Congress.
 
2014-07-16 09:07:41 PM
The only kind of bills that I know get unanimous votes are ones that fark over the people.
 
2014-07-16 09:08:48 PM

dionysusaur: clkeagle: Drifting away from the politics... does ths mean that phone manufacturers and cell phone providers will finally run out of excuses to make ever-so-slightly different models from one carrier to the next?

No - a new excuse to charge more.


Ah, no wonder the vote was unanimous.
 
2014-07-16 09:15:13 PM

MarcysMan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

My thoughts exactly.

[withfriendship.com image 720x364]


Are you implying that I am obnoxious and disliked?
 
2014-07-16 09:18:19 PM

DubyaHater: Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless Congress.


In a way this is more useful now that the iPhone is on all carriers. You can take your device from one carrier to the other...depending on network tech.
 
2014-07-16 09:25:32 PM

DubyaHater: Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless

Congress.
Pay -as- you- go phones are all the rage. $45 to $50 /mth on average for unlimited everything. No credit check, no 2 year contract , no accidentally running up an astronomical bill and ruining credit. Alot of the higher-end smart phones are vender specific. Legally unlocking them would be a good thing.
 
2014-07-16 09:26:07 PM
That's good... I guess. Wooptie-farking-doo!
 
2014-07-16 09:42:36 PM

BitwiseShift: I only buy new unlocked phones -- how does this help?


I plan on doing that with my next phone. Thinking of going with the Nexus, mainly because I have verizon as a carrier and none of their current phones interest me.
 
2014-07-16 09:45:35 PM
This is great and all but carriers will just try to sell phones with the bands stripped out.
 
2014-07-16 09:49:04 PM

thehobbes: From another article:
"Assuming the bill does pass, it's not exactly a towering achievement-it's somewhat redundant since the carriers basically gave up and   several months ago under pressure from the FCC. AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular have all agreed to put those "voluntary industry principles" into effect."


Ah. There it is. I knew there was no way the Senate did something that was actually important.
 
2014-07-16 10:13:47 PM

HMS_Blinkin: thehobbes: From another article:
"Assuming the bill does pass, it's not exactly a towering achievement-it's somewhat redundant since the carriers basically gave up and   several months ago under pressure from the FCC. AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular have all agreed to put those "voluntary industry principles" into effect."

Ah. There it is. I knew there was no way the Senate did something that was actually important.


Oh, FFS. I thought this might have actually been a good bill. >.<

Well, on the plus side at least it's not one of those unanimous fark-everyone-over bills.

Gotta look on the bright side! ^_^
 
2014-07-16 10:15:12 PM

redrumten: I'm probably misunderstanding what this means, but did they wait until after iPhones were not att specific to do this? Would it have been more difficult back then?


This law makes it legal for consumers to remove carrier locks from their phones.  People have been doing it for a long time - well before the iPhone ever came out.  I did it with my Nokia 6310i a decade ago so I could use a SIM card from a European carrier while on vacation.

While this is good and all, keep in mind that the cellular networks in the United States are very fragmented.  Sprint, US Cellular and Verizon use CDMA + EVDO while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM + UMTS for 2G/3G.  Everyone is slowly converging on LTE for 4G, but 2G and 3G networks are going to be around for some time.  And even within cellular network families, carriers tend to have specific frequency blocks they've been allocated.  Carrier specific phones tend to omit bands that only the competition uses.


DubyaHater: Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless Congress.


It is handy when you travel overseas and you want to use a foreign carrier's SIM card.  Same holds true if you move and you find your old network's reception to be crap at your new home.  Lastly, it allows you to switch from a tier one carrier to one of the many virtual carriers such as Page Plus, Straight Talk, Consumer Cellular, Ting and others.

The latter is why I broke the carrier lock on my new phone.  The entry level plans that the tier one carriers tend to have too many minutes and too much data for me.  I didn't care to pay $50/mo for something I wasn't going to use.  So instead, I went with an AT&T reseller that offers 130 minutes and 150MB (both with rollover) for $20/mo.
 
2014-07-16 10:22:03 PM
Sometimes a threat is so terrible that all sides of the political spectrum will come together and draw a unified line in the sand.

Good work cell phone companies!  You are just that evil.
 
2014-07-16 10:46:17 PM

ReverendJynxed: False flag. Head for the shelters folks.


you kid, but Obama knows the truth
 
2014-07-16 10:56:40 PM

Dinjiin: redrumten: I'm probably misunderstanding what this means, but did they wait until after iPhones were not att specific to do this? Would it have been more difficult back then?

This law makes it legal for consumers to remove carrier locks from their phones.  People have been doing it for a long time - well before the iPhone ever came out.  I did it with my Nokia 6310i a decade ago so I could use a SIM card from a European carrier while on vacation.

While this is good and all, keep in mind that the cellular networks in the United States are very fragmented.  Sprint, US Cellular and Verizon use CDMA + EVDO while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM + UMTS for 2G/3G.  Everyone is slowly converging on LTE for 4G, but 2G and 3G networks are going to be around for some time.  And even within cellular network families, carriers tend to have specific frequency blocks they've been allocated.  Carrier specific phones tend to omit bands that only the competition uses.


DubyaHater: Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless Congress.

It is handy when you travel overseas and you want to use a foreign carrier's SIM card.  Same holds true if you move and you find your old network's reception to be crap at your new home.  Lastly, it allows you to switch from a tier one carrier to one of the many virtual carriers such as Page Plus, Straight Talk, Consumer Cellular, Ting and others.

The latter is why I broke the carrier lock on my new phone.  The entry level plans that the tier one carriers tend to have too many minutes and too much data for me.  I didn't care to pay $50/mo for something I wasn't going to use.  So instead, I went with an AT&T reseller that offers 130 minutes and 150MB (both with rollover) for $20/mo.


Interesting, I did not know about this...Can you keep your # when you switch?
 
2014-07-16 11:11:24 PM

Snazzy1: Dinjiin: redrumten: I'm probably misunderstanding what this means, but did they wait until after iPhones were not att specific to do this? Would it have been more difficult back then?

This law makes it legal for consumers to remove carrier locks from their phones.  People have been doing it for a long time - well before the iPhone ever came out.  I did it with my Nokia 6310i a decade ago so I could use a SIM card from a European carrier while on vacation.

While this is good and all, keep in mind that the cellular networks in the United States are very fragmented.  Sprint, US Cellular and Verizon use CDMA + EVDO while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM + UMTS for 2G/3G.  Everyone is slowly converging on LTE for 4G, but 2G and 3G networks are going to be around for some time.  And even within cellular network families, carriers tend to have specific frequency blocks they've been allocated.  Carrier specific phones tend to omit bands that only the competition uses.


DubyaHater: Maybe I am missing important information on this subject matter, but I find this bill fairly meaningless.  Do people change their carriers that much?  This might have been useful when iPhones were only available on AT&T, but now this just sounds like filler in yet another pointless chapter of this useless Congress.

It is handy when you travel overseas and you want to use a foreign carrier's SIM card.  Same holds true if you move and you find your old network's reception to be crap at your new home.  Lastly, it allows you to switch from a tier one carrier to one of the many virtual carriers such as Page Plus, Straight Talk, Consumer Cellular, Ting and others.

The latter is why I broke the carrier lock on my new phone.  The entry level plans that the tier one carriers tend to have too many minutes and too much data for me.  I didn't care to pay $50/mo for something I wasn't going to use.  So instead, I went with an AT&T reseller that offers 130 minutes and 150MB (both with rollover) for $20/mo.

Interesting, I did not know about this...Can you keep your # when you switch?


Yes. That was enacted a few years back.
 
2014-07-16 11:58:14 PM
This might have been useful about 4 or 5 years ago when iPhones were AT&T only.

/and now that people in the thread mention it, a bill with unanimous support does seem sketchy
 
2014-07-17 12:43:03 AM
Alternate headline: 'With all other problems solved, *headline*'

Seriously, an unnecessary bill to make them look good related to pacifying the masses with toys gets passed unanimously?

What about, oh I don't know, ANYTHING MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS????
 
2014-07-17 12:45:24 AM
I don't care about their phone unlocking bill. We can get our farking phones unlocked.

What I want them to do something about is the price and speed of the supposed data flow through this country.

We bein' ripped off.

big time

dude
 
2014-07-17 01:24:38 AM
God what a stupid farking waste of taxpayer money.
 
2014-07-17 01:26:29 AM

farkin_Gary: I don't care about their phone unlocking bill. We can get our farking phones unlocked.

What I want them to do something about is the price and speed of the supposed data flow through this country.

We bein' ripped off.

big time

dude


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-07-17 02:04:46 AM

anfrind: KarmicDisaster: bdub77: [media.boingboing.net image 850x850]
Jesus Christ, why did you even f*cking bother? Really guys? You chose a lock pick photo for a bill that deals with phone unlocking. Did a computer algorithm pick this stock photography? Is your editor a blind person?

I love this obsession with stock photos, like adding one to every article will make your crappy blog post look more professional. You might as well have written the whole farkin article in comic sans.

It IS stupid. the reason is that most news institutions have fired their staff photographers.All they have left is iPhone/instagram dorks They would rather have an 18 year old intern go to istockphoto and search for some key words and use whatever comes up than take a new picture. Hey morans, for $50 I''ll take a picture of a cell phone for you. Cash only.

I seem to remember an article linked on Fark a few years ago about age discrimination, and instead of even using a proper stock photo, the author apparently went with the first thing she found on GIS when she searched for the words "too old".  Which was a picture of Pedobear.


I was there. That was an amazing moment in history
 
2014-07-17 02:19:10 AM

cchris_39: Lando Lincoln: What does it say about Congress that I'm immediately suspect about any bills that actually get passed through Congress? ESPECIALLY ones that are unanimous?

Agreed. My first thought was to wonder why the carriers weren't in there fighting it.


Simple. Phone carriers have different standards meaning you can "unlock" your phone but it is still only capable of speaking to certain networks. Think of it as speaking 'Murica and it can only speak on networks that speak 'Murica.
 
2014-07-17 02:46:30 AM
Ha ha. You are still getting ripped off on data plans.

www.androidcentral.com

Congratulations you are on par with Botswana.
 
2014-07-17 03:13:17 AM

wotthefark: Ha ha. You are still getting ripped off on data plans.

[www.androidcentral.com image 599x588]

Congratulations you are on par with Botswana.


If corporations can't charge us out the ass for slow, shiatty service, because they've effectively killed any existing or potential competition, then the COMMIES WIN!
 
2014-07-17 03:36:58 AM

thehobbes: From another article:
"Assuming the bill does pass, it's not exactly a towering achievement-it's somewhat redundant since the carriers basically gave up and   several months ago under pressure from the FCC. AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular have all agreed to put those "voluntary industry principles" into effect."


Ah, of course.
I should have known that the R's wouldn't have passed a law that would have inconvenienced their corporate overlords.
 
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