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(Washington Post)   He was known as 'The Lion of Fallujah'. His dog was named 'Valhalla'. He was a Marine, Special Forces, and a CIA operative. Even Chesty Puller would have shaken this man's hand   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 152
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2014-07-16 09:07:53 AM
"I was with him in Fallujah," the Marine said, "and if we had to go back in there, I'd follow him in with a spoon."

Done in one.

Rest in peace, sir. You did your men, your Corps, and your country proud.
 
2014-07-16 10:16:59 AM
For 2007, there is a single, anonymous star.
It belongs to Marine Maj.


allwhowanderarenotlost.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-16 10:45:26 AM

whistleridge: "I was with him in Fallujah," the Marine said, "and if we had to go back in there, I'd follow him in with a spoon."

Done in one.

Rest in peace, sir. You did your men, your Corps, and your country proud.



That statement hit me, too.
 
2014-07-16 12:33:19 PM
He was.... The Most Interesting Man In The World.
 
2014-07-16 12:34:43 PM
Semper Fi sir.
 
2014-07-16 12:37:47 PM
not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?
 
2014-07-16 12:39:22 PM
Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.
 
2014-07-16 12:40:56 PM
Would have more respect for him if he fragged his commanding officer who authorized the use of DU in Fallujah.
 
2014-07-16 12:42:52 PM

whistleridge: "I was with him in Fallujah," the Marine said, "and if we had to go back in there, I'd follow him in with a spoon."

Done in one.

Rest in peace, sir. You did your men, your Corps, and your country proud.


Well, everybody needs a battle cry.
 
2014-07-16 12:42:56 PM
He watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor.  That's his dream; that's his nightmare.  Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.
 
2014-07-16 12:43:26 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


The various services loan their people out to other agencies for all sorts of reasons you don't want to know about.
 
2014-07-16 12:44:19 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


It happens. Mission operations wins in most cases.
 
2014-07-16 12:45:59 PM
War always kills too many of our good people.
 
2014-07-16 12:46:40 PM
Definitely a paragon of manliness.
 
2014-07-16 12:46:59 PM
Zembiec scaled the tank while bullets ricocheted off its hull.

After he knocked on one of the hatches repeatedly, the crew of the tank finally opened up.


If I'm in a tank and someone is knocking on the hatch. I aint answering. Lost a gunner that way. I was a soldier in the Core. It was over Macho Grande and we we fighting the Land Sharks.  Never even got the Candygram.
 
2014-07-16 12:47:03 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


According to Tom Clancy; that kind of crossing over, military to CIA that is, happens all the time. Especially if your name is Jack Ryan, Super President of the Universe.

/ I'm getting to the end of Red October; and I'm enjoying it. Besides being a little dated; I don't see why some people don't like the book. It's really good for an IPO.
 
2014-07-16 12:49:42 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


see: NASA
 
2014-07-16 12:49:49 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.


This.  He earned the nickname "Lion of Fallujah" fighting justly (or as justly as one could fight in that cocked up mess.)  Four years later, he was doing nothing less than what the Gestapo did, kidnapping folks to be tortured for intel.
 
2014-07-16 12:50:14 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?



You follow the chain of command of the unit you are attached to.
 
2014-07-16 12:50:18 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.


F U
 
2014-07-16 12:50:41 PM

Harry Freakstorm: Zembiec scaled the tank while bullets ricocheted off its hull.

After he knocked on one of the hatches repeatedly, the crew of the tank finally opened up.

If I'm in a tank and someone is knocking on the hatch. I aint answering. Lost a gunner that way. I was a soldier in the Core. It was over Macho Grande and we we fighting the Land Sharks.  Never even got the Candygram.


You ever happen to Fly for the Navy?

;)
 
2014-07-16 12:50:43 PM

iheartscotch: Magorn:  I don't see why some people don't like the book. It's really good for an IPO.


Because a republican wrote it.
 
2014-07-16 12:51:05 PM
Was he shot in the forehead with a diamond bullet?
 
2014-07-16 12:51:44 PM
Semper Fi, Major.
 
2014-07-16 12:52:04 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


Same way Dirk Pitt is an Air Force Major and Director of NUMA.
 
2014-07-16 12:53:12 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.


Just as some people need killing, some people need the screws put to them.

Just for kicks I might add, any info we actually get while having some fun is a bonus.
 
2014-07-16 12:53:18 PM
The spoon comment was just awesome. Marines have the best way of describing great things.
 
2014-07-16 12:55:35 PM

Magorn: not to be That Guy but I am a little confused and maybe a tiny be concerned how a guy could be simultaneously an active duty member of a uniformed armed service AND an operative of what is supposed to be a civilian spy agency?  If Petraeus had given him one order and Tenet a contradictory one, how would that have worked?


The CIA and the military work along side each other from time to time. I'm sure they have a procedures for working out a chain of command. I assume since he is attached to the CIA from the marines, that he follows CIA directives from a handler. The marines know he's attached to the CIA. It's not like they are going to be giving him orders and missions when he is indisposed elsewhere. The services have members who work together a lot. There are navy and air force personnel attached to army units to act as liaisons and vice versa. It's probably similar to how that works.
 
2014-07-16 12:55:45 PM

August11: The spoon comment was just awesome. Marines have the best way of describing great things.


I will never forget watching cspan during iraq war I and it was just footage of a marine describing land mines to soldiers in the desert:

"This one jumps up about ball height then explodes"
 
2014-07-16 12:55:49 PM
Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.
 
2014-07-16 12:55:53 PM

August11: The spoon comment was just awesome. Marines have the best way of describing great things.


I would have followed him with a spork.
 
2014-07-16 12:59:18 PM
I heard equipping their gloves makes your pets attack faster
 
2014-07-16 01:00:55 PM
Highly decorated and honored soldiers in illegal wars are so admirable.....as long as your not on the defeated side.
 
2014-07-16 01:00:59 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.


He probably had more integrity in the thumb he used to push into an insurgents wound to torture them with then you have in your entire existence.
 
2014-07-16 01:01:26 PM
IvanTheSilent: This.  He earned the nickname "Lion of Fallujah" fighting justly (or as justly as one could fight in that cocked up mess.)  Four years later, he was doing nothing less than what the Gestapo did, kidnapping folks to be tortured for intel.

On one hand, I am genuinely opposed to torture and get very exercised about the injustice and immorality of it. On the other hand, if the people he was kidnapping were actual insurgent operatives and not old village elders who just happened to be affiliated with the wrong warlord from the wrong village at the wrong time... Well, then I feel kinda "meh". I feel like torturing innocent people is minus 1,000 points, and torturing actual terrorists is, like, minus...8 points, maybe.
 
2014-07-16 01:03:24 PM
Threads like this remind me that we're probably about another 10 years away from the next "must fight and can't lose" war.

I'd say it's about five years from when "we could have won, but they wouldn't let us" becomes a common theme for the last one.
 
2014-07-16 01:05:12 PM

Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.

He probably had more integrity in the thumb he used to push into an insurgents wound to torture them with then you have in your entire existence.


Nice!  I like it.  I can't write material this good.
 
2014-07-16 01:05:22 PM
so what you're saying is that she, the wife, is single, now, and open to new experiences?

no, not seri ... well, she is blonde...

 ... more seriously, though, we have no idea what he was doing.  On the day of his death, he was credited with saving 25 lives.  There was an ambush he figured out.  That doesn't sound like a snatch and grab for an intel prisoner.  It does sound like a feint, while searching for a certain turbaned fellow the entire western world was looking for, at the time.  Or a political, "this is what we can do, stop giving the warlords your supplies that you're getting from us" type of operation.
 
2014-07-16 01:06:11 PM

Honest Bender: For 2007, there is a single, anonymous star.
It belongs to Marine Maj.

[allwhowanderarenotlost.files.wordpress.com image 500x277]


The CIA might not acknowledge his death on the book they have at their memorial it might just have the year and a star with a blank next to it. But looks like it is just a well know secret.

Prey4reign: August11: The spoon comment was just awesome. Marines have the best way of describing great things.

I would have followed him with a spork.


Plastic or metal?
 
2014-07-16 01:09:22 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.


He probably had more integrity in the penis he used to push into that tribal peasant girl than you have in your entire existence.
 
2014-07-16 01:09:41 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.

 
2014-07-16 01:09:46 PM

Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.

He probably had more integrity in the thumb he used to push into an insurgents wound to torture them with then you have in your entire existence.


Is this one of the guys you'd murder during the revolution?
 
2014-07-16 01:09:47 PM

groppet: Plastic or metal?



High speed low drag types use Titanium sporks because you can carry 3 extra rounds for the mp7 than if you carried a steel spork.
 
2014-07-16 01:09:47 PM

groppet: Honest Bender: For 2007, there is a single, anonymous star.
It belongs to Marine Maj.

[allwhowanderarenotlost.files.wordpress.com image 500x277]

The CIA might not acknowledge his death on the book they have at their memorial it might just have the year and a star with a blank next to it. But looks like it is just a well know secret.

Prey4reign: August11: The spoon comment was just awesome. Marines have the best way of describing great things.

I would have followed him with a spork.

Plastic or metal?


Marines and Army can fight with plastic but Navy and Air Force need metal and an umbrella.

/obscure?
 
2014-07-16 01:11:07 PM

netizencain: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Sounds like he was one of those guys who abducted the people who were sent off to be tortured by the CIA. This doesn't negate the other stuff he did, but he was also the first step in the chain of events that lead to torture.

F U


sideways with a chainsaw.
 
2014-07-16 01:11:20 PM
he was killed kidnapping "insurgents" for the CIA which basically could be translated to he was kidnapping civilian Iraqis so the CIA could torture them. YAY hero USA USA USA USA.
 
2014-07-16 01:11:51 PM

Rapmaster2000: HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.

He probably had more integrity in the penis he used to push into that tribal peasant girl than you have in your entire existence.


I usually use protection, but then I'm like, "hey, when am I going to make it to Afghanistan again?"
 
2014-07-16 01:12:40 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.

He probably had more integrity in the thumb he used to push into an insurgents wound to torture them with then you have in your entire existence.

Is this one of the guys you'd murder during the revolution?


Only if he was one of the poors carrying the guillotine. I'm on the other side of the wealth/income disparity divide.
 
2014-07-16 01:13:12 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.


Mmm, I'll assume you're not trolling and say 'close, but not quite'. He kidnapped people to be interrogated, as a means of limiting damage to his men and his country. That's an entirely valid military function, and the capture and questioning of prisoners is both acknowledged and permitted under the Geneva Conventions.

That his higher-ups chose to blatantly violate every principle of American justice and jurisprudence in the name of expediency is their cross to bear. And while yes, there is an argument that all 2 million US troops who participated in the armed forces during that period also share some responsibility, you have to draw the line somewhere.

He was a brave man, who did remarkable things, at great personal risk, for minimal reward. I share your ire for a lot of things that the US did then, but it's nothing but ugliness to express that sort of sentiment in the way you did. What he did was legal under every international law, and tough. If you have any evidence of war crimes, present it. And no, 'he was there, doing that' doesn't count.
 
2014-07-16 01:13:50 PM

Rapmaster2000: HotWingConspiracy: Someone that kidnapped people to be tortured died in a farking gutter. At least he died as he lived.

He probably had more integrity in the penis he used to push into that tribal peasant girl than you have in your entire existence.


Dude, it's like, the same thread.
 
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