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(Deadline)   Apparently, the idea of an abusive, foul-mouthed teddy bear was not Seth MacFarlane's original idea, as he's now being sued by someone with an animated web series about a foul-mouthed, abusive teddy bear   (deadline.com) divider line 61
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2014-07-16 10:03:33 AM  
http://www.mrwiggleslovesyou.com/archive/1/

What a REAL foul-mouthed teddy bear looks like.
So yah, take your previous art and shove it.
 
2014-07-16 12:50:17 PM  
Tom Waits sued Frito Lay because of Chester Cheetah. (They are both hep cats)
 
2014-07-16 12:55:36 PM  
Never been more appropriate....
mrwgifs.com
 
2014-07-16 01:15:39 PM  
I didn't care for Ted. It insisted on itself.
 
2014-07-16 01:37:29 PM  
I knew about this even before the movie came out, but I'm glad they're finally suing over it.
 
2014-07-16 01:52:41 PM  
Seems sort of a broad concept for someone to claim it was their's first. And I'd bet that Seth's lawyers have bigger dicks than those of comic strip guy.
 
2014-07-16 02:20:21 PM  
Charlie 2009 Twitter post: "I don't like cocaine. I just like the smell of it."

Ted 2012 Twitter post: "Just acid, and coke, and Ex, and DMT. That's where I draw the lines."


So the Charlie writer steals and re-uses old jokes and Seth actually writes new ones and then gets sued as a thief?

[seemslegit]
 
2014-07-16 02:29:37 PM  

Mugato: Seems sort of a broad concept for someone to claim it was their's first. And I'd bet that Seth's lawyers have bigger dicks than those of comic strip guy.


this
Plus you would have to assume that the studio that released the film is on the hook for copyright issues.
 
2014-07-16 02:30:09 PM  
I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.
 
2014-07-16 02:37:40 PM  

namatad: Plus you would have to assume that the studio that released the film is on the hook for copyright issues.


And studio suits might be stupid about creative stuff but not things like this.

Well except for Michael Bay/Spielberg's The Island, which was successfully sued for being a direct ripoff of a movie featured on MST3K so I guess it does happen.
 
2014-07-16 03:25:33 PM  
Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?
 
2014-07-16 03:30:11 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?


Happily ever after or whatever that Married with Children clone was?
 
2014-07-16 03:30:53 PM  

bdub77: I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.


I hope you mean you stuck an Andrew Dice Clay TAPE into your Teddy Ruxpin.
 
2014-07-16 03:32:01 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?


Alf was in the 80's
 
2014-07-16 03:32:29 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?


Perhaps?
 
2014-07-16 03:32:47 PM  

Fano: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

Happily ever after or whatever that Married with Children clone was?


Unhappily Ever After, I think, with Bob Goldthwait as the stuffed animal thing and Nikki Cox as the other overstuffed thing.
 
2014-07-16 03:32:55 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?


Greg the Bunny.
 
2014-07-16 03:33:38 PM  

Crudbucket: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

Perhaps?


It threw away my image, but Greg the Bunny ran on FOX from 2002-05.
 
2014-07-16 03:36:08 PM  

Billy Liar: bdub77: I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.

I hope you mean you stuck an Andrew Dice Clay TAPE into your Teddy Ruxpin.


Actually, I hope he did stick Andrew Dice Clay into his Teddy Ruxpin.
 
2014-07-16 03:36:36 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?


You may be thinking of Unhappily Ever After, aired on the WB as part of its original lineup. (They were trying, and failed, to replicate Fox's "Married with Children" success.) It featured a foul-mouthed talking stuffed bunny, voiced by Bobcat Goldthwaite.
 
2014-07-16 03:47:13 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

Alf was in the 80's


Hey, ALF is a national treasure. And yeah, he his closer to Ted than that somewhat poorly written comic strip.
 
2014-07-16 03:50:08 PM  
Yes, how original...


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-16 03:50:56 PM  

bdub77: I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.


We used Eddie Murphy's "Raw"
 
2014-07-16 03:52:01 PM  
This whole thing made me wonder if Foamy was still a thing. "He" sort-of is.

Gay marriage.

They seem to be "HD-ing" all the old episodes.
 
2014-07-16 03:53:46 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

Greg the Bunny.


Greg the Bunny is a hilarious, piquant satire of just about anything you can imagine.

/Natural Born Killers was an excellent parody
/several others but I can't remember them now
 
2014-07-16 03:54:06 PM  
Actually, I think the idea of an abusive, foul-mouthed teddy bear was born the first time an older brother interacted with a teddy bear.
 
2014-07-16 03:57:56 PM  
Scott Adams (the Dilbert Guy) has a theory on humor - combine as many elements as possible from the following list and it becomes funny: clever, cute, bizarre, cruel, naughty, recognizable.

Most funny things will pull from a few of these. Calvin and Hobbes had cute, clever, and recognizable. South Park has cute, naughty, clever, and frequently cruel. Monte Python made a career on clever bizarre.

With the cute / naughty crossover, you're 2/3 of the way to funny. Add a little bit of one other category, boom, funny.
 
2014-07-16 04:02:31 PM  

Joe_diGriz: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

You may be thinking of Unhappily Ever After, aired on the WB as part of its original lineup. (They were trying, and failed, to replicate Fox's "Married with Children" success.) It featured a foul-mouthed talking stuffed bunny, voiced by Bobcat Goldthwaite.


It lasted a while as I recall (looked it up- 5 seasons; not Married's damn impressive 11 but still hardly a failure as TV shows in general go), and it had a similar but very distinctive vibe from its primary inspiration (the man and woman were divorcing/half separated until they killed her off etc).

Also, pre-plastic surgery post-puberty Nikki Cox FAP
 
2014-07-16 04:02:34 PM  

Joe_diGriz: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

You may be thinking of Unhappily Ever After, aired on the WB as part of its original lineup. (They were trying, and failed, to replicate Fox's "Married with Children" success.) It featured a foul-mouthed talking stuffed bunny, voiced by Bobcat Goldthwaite.


But they did have a young Nikki Cox, who, in her prime, was much hotter than Christina Applegate.
 
2014-07-16 04:03:33 PM  

bdub77: I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.


A buddy of mine and I hooked up his sister's Teddy Ruxpin up to his truck battery and put in Slayer. It was beautiful.
 
2014-07-16 04:04:06 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I knew about this even before the movie came out, but I'm glad they're finally suing over it.


So, maybe H. Rider Haggard should sue Spielberg and Lucas over Indiana Jones.
 
2014-07-16 04:04:53 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

I have this for some reason.
 
2014-07-16 04:06:39 PM  

Fano: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Wasn't there some Fox show in the nineties that had the same vulgar stuffed animal thing?

Happily ever after or whatever that Married with Children clone was?


Which calls for the hotness of pre-plastic surgery train wreck Nikki Cox back in the day:

www.giftsandfreeadvice.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

nb9.stumbleupon.netdna-cdn.com
 
2014-07-16 04:07:30 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Greg the Bunny is a hilarious, piquant satire of just about anything you can imagine.


And Ween did the theme.  And I have seen them play it live.  I live a beautiful life.
 
2014-07-16 04:09:25 PM  

Mugato: namatad: Plus you would have to assume that the studio that released the film is on the hook for copyright issues.

And studio suits might be stupid about creative stuff but not things like this.

Well except for Michael Bay/Spielberg's The Island, which was successfully sued for being a direct ripoff of a movie featured on MST3K so I guess it does happen.


Wasnt The Island an adaptation of a Phillip K. Dick story?
 
2014-07-16 04:09:53 PM  

meanmutton: Scott Adams (the Dilbert Guy) has a theory on humor - combine as many elements as possible from the following list and it becomes funny: clever, cute, bizarre, cruel, naughty, recognizable.

Most funny things will pull from a few of these. Calvin and Hobbes had cute, clever, and recognizable. South Park has cute, naughty, clever, and frequently cruel. Monte Python made a career on clever bizarre.

With the cute / naughty crossover, you're 2/3 of the way to funny. Add a little bit of one other category, boom, funny.


Wonder Showzen played with all of those elements. I have no idea how that show stayed on the air for as long as it did.
 
2014-07-16 04:09:55 PM  

bdub77: I'm pretty sure I invented this character when I stuck Andrew Dice Clay in my Teddy Ruxpin.


That's Teddy Rux-Fu*king-Pin to you.
 
2014-07-16 04:12:02 PM  

fiddlehead: meanmutton: Scott Adams (the Dilbert Guy) has a theory on humor - combine as many elements as possible from the following list and it becomes funny: clever, cute, bizarre, cruel, naughty, recognizable.

Most funny things will pull from a few of these. Calvin and Hobbes had cute, clever, and recognizable. South Park has cute, naughty, clever, and frequently cruel. Monte Python made a career on clever bizarre.

With the cute / naughty crossover, you're 2/3 of the way to funny. Add a little bit of one other category, boom, funny.

Wonder Showzen played with all of those elements. I have no idea how that show stayed on the air for as long as it did.


Some lawyer had to watch and sign off on Beat Kids.
 
2014-07-16 04:12:10 PM  
In fairness, Seth MacFarlane's made an entire career out of synthesizing new jokes out of old ones - Family Guy is The Simpsons for a post-10pm crowd; every other show of his is "Family Guy set in [new place]"; he redid "Cosmos" (not that I'm complaining one bit about that); Ted is an homage to Flash Gordon (for some reason) mixed with shiatty love story mixed with the same idea everyone had in 1986 when Teddy Ruxpin came out; he flat-out admits he wants to be Dean Martin...

Not that there isn't talent needed for that. The Family Guy-Star Wars episodes are funny as hell.

// that old joke about "jokes by number" - guy says "Number 6!" and no one laughs
// "sometimes, it's all in the delivery", and MacFarlane knows how to deliver a punchline
// except when he delivers it, then tells the joke for 5 more minutes
// *holds shin*
 
2014-07-16 04:17:22 PM  

Johnsnownw: Yes, how original...


[i.imgur.com image 550x413]


That's what I thought. This guy's strip was nothing but Unhappily Ever After, dialed up with more profane recycled jokes. This guy's "I don't like cocaine, but I like the smell" joke was used in an Uncle Kracker song in 1999, FFS, and someone else probably used it before that.

This dude is nothing but a hack with dollar signs in his eyes. If Ted hadn't become a big hit, this lawsuit wouldn't exist.
 
2014-07-16 04:18:25 PM  
The movie Citizen Dog came out in 2004 and features a foul mouthed smoking teddy bear as well.  It is also the greatest movie of all time.  ALL. TIME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-WnYb4OpPw
 
2014-07-16 04:21:11 PM  
FTA: "Both Charlie and Ted reside in a substantially similar environment, including that both Charlie and Ted spend a significant amount of time sitting on a living room couch with a beer and/or cigarette in hand," the suit claims. "Charlie and Ted each have a substantially similar persona, verbal tone, verbal delivery, dialogue, and attitude."

1) Ted doesn't smoke cigarettes.
2) Sitting on the couch with a beer isn't really a unique situation.
3) If they sound so similar, then Seth Macfarlane needs to counter-sue this guy doing an unauthorized Peter Griffin impersonation.

IANAL
 
2014-07-16 04:24:38 PM  

Gunny Highway: Wasnt The Island an adaptation of a Phillip K. Dick story?


It was a ripoff of Parts: The Clonus Horror according to the courts.
 
2014-07-16 04:29:28 PM  
theeightees.com
 
2014-07-16 04:36:36 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: fiddlehead: meanmutton: Scott Adams (the Dilbert Guy) has a theory on humor - combine as many elements as possible from the following list and it becomes funny: clever, cute, bizarre, cruel, naughty, recognizable.

Most funny things will pull from a few of these. Calvin and Hobbes had cute, clever, and recognizable. South Park has cute, naughty, clever, and frequently cruel. Monte Python made a career on clever bizarre.

With the cute / naughty crossover, you're 2/3 of the way to funny. Add a little bit of one other category, boom, funny.

Wonder Showzen played with all of those elements. I have no idea how that show stayed on the air for as long as it did.

Some lawyer had to watch and sign off on Beat Kids.


Who did you exploit today?
 
2014-07-16 04:37:26 PM  
Happy Tree Friends and Meet the Feebles also come to mind.
 
2014-07-16 04:42:16 PM  

Dr Dreidel: every other show of his is "Family Guy set in [new place]";


american dad from season 2 on is very much not 'family guy in new place.' particularly the holiday episodes.
 
2014-07-16 04:45:11 PM  

meanmutton: Scott Adams (the Dilbert Guy) has a theory on humor - combine as many elements as possible from the following list and it becomes funny: clever, cute, bizarre, cruel, naughty, recognizable.

Most funny things will pull from a few of these. Calvin and Hobbes had cute, clever, and recognizable. South Park has cute, naughty, clever, and frequently cruel. Monte Python made a career on clever bizarre.

With the cute / naughty crossover, you're 2/3 of the way to funny. Add a little bit of one other category, boom, funny.


If Dilbert was ever funny I might giva a shiat what Adams has ti say about humour
 
2014-07-16 04:49:07 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I knew about this even before the movie came out, but I'm glad they're finally suing over it.


Yeah I thought we covered this a while ago. Along with how Stewie is a blatant rip off of some other obscure comic strip character as well.
 
2014-07-16 04:57:28 PM  
And then Leigh Francis will come along and sue you for copying his idea for 2002

img1.wikia.nocookie.net

Suggest these producers look up the word "juxtaposition" before throwing money at a lawsuit.
 
2014-07-16 05:07:49 PM  
http://blip.tv/acting-school-academy/acting-school-academy-episode-7- t he-business-2998101

1m 20s in.

Then you'll realise just how exactly Seth MacFarlane and et al will not be giving any farks about this.
 
2014-07-16 05:16:10 PM  
Didn't he steal Stewie from a comic called, Jimmy Corrigan, the Smartest Kid in the Word?
 
2014-07-16 05:17:59 PM  
 
2014-07-16 05:42:41 PM  
I think they thought Seth was an easy target because really most of his humor is "Hey remember that thing from that movie? Remember Doc Brown from Back to the Future 3? Well I'm doing a western and here's Doc Brown....we don't have anything for him to do but that's the joke" type humor.
 
2014-07-16 06:29:24 PM  
there was a 2008 Supernatural episode with a teddy bear that uses foul language and likes booze and porn. And it came to live because of a child's wish. It becomes suicidal and depressed when it becomes aware of how terrible the world really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l9weXq85q8
 
2014-07-16 07:34:41 PM  

theflatline: [theeightees.com image 250x250]


I got a whole bunch of blank stares this past weekend when I started belting out "I am singing the quiet song". Genius is never recognized in its time.
 
2014-07-16 07:48:24 PM  

tlchwi02: Dr Dreidel: every other show of his is "Family Guy set in [new place]";

american dad from season 2 on is very much not 'family guy in new place.' particularly the holiday episodes.


Yep, American Dad started to hit its stride (around Stan of Arabia) after MacFarlane backed off of it and left it to competent writers. Anyone who says it's a clone hasn't watched an episode since the first season.

/The Christmas episodes are some of the most ingenious Christmas specials of any show
//And the episode with Jeff in space. The musical number is fantastic
 
2014-07-16 09:02:02 PM  
FTFA: "...a foul-mouthed teddy bear with a penchant for drinking, smoking and prostitutes " and he sits on living room couch drinking beer and smoking.

Except for the "teddy bear" part, it sounds like they're describing Bender from Futurama.
 
2014-07-17 02:18:02 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Yep, American Dad started to hit its stride (around Stan of Arabia) after MacFarlane backed off of it and left it to competent writers. Anyone who says it's a clone hasn't watched an episode since the first season. stopped using it as a platform to bash conservatives.


Fixed.

Once the overt politics were dropped they could write actual comedy.

Plus they decided to just go nuts with it, and it worked.
 
2014-07-17 09:33:42 AM  

peterthx: scottydoesntknow: Yep, American Dad started to hit its stride (around Stan of Arabia) after MacFarlane backed off of it and left it to competent writers. Anyone who says it's a clone hasn't watched an episode since the first season. stopped using it as a platform to bash conservatives.

Fixed.

Once the overt politics were dropped they could write actual comedy.

Plus they decided to just go nuts with it, and it worked.


They did that once MacFarlane got frustrated and left the running of the show to other people. The shift in staff made a HUGE difference. Unlike MacFarlane, they realized that the funny can't be tied to topical humor to the same extent, and that political humor has a very limited shelf life.

Quoth Wikipedia:
Early episodes of the series featured political banter between the conservative Stan and liberal Hayley. However, the creators learned quickly that political banter between Stan and Hayley had only "a limited shelf life." Creators described the approach as not providing them as much as they originally thought it would. Said co-creator Matt Weitzman, "There are times when we still have that kind of dynamic between them, but not nearly what it was in the first season. And I think the show, honestly, has grown and benefited from it, because that would have gotten boring after a while."
 
2014-07-17 11:34:06 AM  
scottydoesntknow:
//And the episode with Jeff in space. The musical number is fantastic

The Majestic was farking awesome.
 
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