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2014-07-16 09:57:40 AM  
In just ten 500 page volumes
 
2014-07-16 10:27:45 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: In just ten 500 page volumes


With a terrible ending
 
2014-07-16 11:17:54 AM  
I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.
 
2014-07-16 11:59:38 AM  
Alternate title: "How To Get Paid By The Word By Rambling Aimlessly For Page After Page While in Excruciating Detail About Characters And Things That Have Absolutely Nothing To Do With The Story You're Telling But I Forgot Where I Was Going With This So Here's Another Fifty Pages Of Filler Because I Really Like Getting Paid By The Word, Don't You Wish You Were Paid By the Word?"
 
2014-07-16 12:10:30 PM  
23. Don't be afraid to tell the same story, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
 
2014-07-16 12:10:59 PM  
I'm not sure I trust the guy who wrote his best stuff on drugs to tell me I shouldn't write while high.
 
2014-07-16 12:11:41 PM  
If his life when he wrote his early best works are any indication there is only one lesson - be on cocaine.

/don't try this at home, kids
 
2014-07-16 12:12:49 PM  
How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.
 
2014-07-16 12:13:31 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: I'm not sure I trust the guy who wrote his best stuff on drugs to tell me I shouldn't write while high.


*fistbump*
 
2014-07-16 12:16:45 PM  
I admit I put my dog to sleep after reading Cujo.
 
2014-07-16 12:22:14 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.


Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing
 
2014-07-16 12:22:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Alternate title: "How To Get Paid By The Word By Rambling Aimlessly For Page After Page While in Excruciating Detail About Characters And Things That Have Absolutely Nothing To Do With The Story You're Telling But I Forgot Where I Was Going With This So Here's Another Fifty Pages Of Filler Because I Really Like Getting Paid By The Word, Don't You Wish You Were Paid By the Word?"


No, that is GRRM.  Except Martin includes copying and pasting near whole chapters from one book to the next with only token edits.

Oh, and Martin just drops the pretext of having a story.
 
2014-07-16 12:23:58 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: I'm not sure I trust the guy who wrote his best stuff on drugs to tell me I shouldn't write while high.


Jeez, no kidding.
 
2014-07-16 12:26:23 PM  

Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.

Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing


The only amazing thing about that rambling 'throw every piece of spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks' POS is how badly he ruined what could have been a great premise/plot.
 
2014-07-16 12:29:03 PM  
"Cell" is the last thing he's written that I liked.
 
2014-07-16 12:29:47 PM  
I'm also not too find of his read all the time suggestion. For writers with a strong voice this may not be a problem, but you can sometimes catch yourself mimicking the voice and tone of whatever you're reading at the time.
 
2014-07-16 12:29:54 PM  

Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.

Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing


That book was great, actually probably one of his all time best.

/My favorite of his still is Needful Things, the idea of the devil coming to town to cause utter chaos intrigues me.
 
2014-07-16 12:31:27 PM  
"Steven King? You mean the hack that provided the bare bones for a masterpiece movie? OK".

storiesbehindthescreen.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-16 12:32:34 PM  
I think it's fair to call him a great writer just given the impact of his imagination on pop culture alone. Unlike a movie all his stuff comes out of one head. Sure he has written a bunch of stinkers and loves his own prose to much to ever edit it, but I could spend ten years trying to write one 1000 page novel and not succeed. King will write like 3 a year and find time to churn out a couple of novellas and short stories and screenplays on the side.
 
2014-07-16 12:33:20 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: In just ten 500 page volumes


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Writing   288 pages actually.
 
2014-07-16 12:45:42 PM  
Let's see.. I liked:

It, Carrie, Salem's Lot, Dead Zone, Stand, most of the Dark Tower, Skeleton Crew, 4 Seasons, .. there's more that I can't think of atm
 
2014-07-16 12:49:45 PM  

Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.
Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.
//book was friggin amazing


I like all his books, liked that one a lot. Whether he's a "great writer" or not, what a freaking imagination. And all you haters can suck it, too, because Stephen King is going to be remembered as one of the great writers. You want "literature" go read Cormac McCarthy or something.
 
2014-07-16 12:50:13 PM  

Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.

Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing


It was a joke, see. I was alluding to how disappointing his endings are. But, now you've gone and   ruined the joke.
 
2014-07-16 12:51:14 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Alternate title: "How To Get Paid By The Word By Rambling Aimlessly For Page After Page While in Excruciating Detail About Characters And Things That Have Absolutely Nothing To Do With The Story You're Telling But I Forgot Where I Was Going With This So Here's Another Fifty Pages Of Filler Because I Really Like Getting Paid By The Word, Don't You Wish You Were Paid By the Word?"



Stephen King didn't write A Feast For Crows
 
2014-07-16 12:54:21 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Stealth Hippopotamus: In just ten 500 page volumes

With a terrible ending


Yeah pretty much this

As in other things, if you have a choice, choose the one with the Happy Ending
 
2014-07-16 12:55:31 PM  

SauronWasFramed: I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.


I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff: "Full Dark, No Stars," "Lisey's Story," "Under the Dome," and "Doctor Sleep."
 
2014-07-16 01:02:27 PM  

someonelse: SauronWasFramed: I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.

I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff: "Full Dark, No Stars," "Lisey's Story," "Under the Dome," and "Doctor Sleep."


I liked FDNS as well, along with the non-fiction On Writing that this entire article rips off is based on. That said, I do think his best work was done before he got C & S.
 
2014-07-16 01:03:28 PM  
I like the short story where the ex-doctor is stranded on an island with just his journal, medical tools and some heroin and uses the heroin to kill the pain as he sever and eat his limbs.   Last entry is him singing the big mac song.
 
2014-07-16 01:10:30 PM  
One of coolest short stories I've read is his Quitters Inc

It's a quick read here  http://bitsofbooks.com/quitter.html
 
2014-07-16 01:11:03 PM  

Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.

Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing


You spelled Full Dark, No Stars wrong.  11/22/63 was mediocre.

Mr. Mercedes was written like he filled a bag with cliches and pulled some out at random and showed how out of touch he is with recent technology.
 
2014-07-16 01:13:35 PM  
lady fingers...
 
2014-07-16 01:14:10 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Altman: Uchiha_Cycliste: How to start as a great writer, but not how to end as a great writer.

Read 11/22/63, and then come back and tell me he's not still a great writer.

//book was friggin amazing

You spelled Full Dark, No Stars wrong.  11/22/63 was mediocre.

Mr. Mercedes was written like he filled a bag with cliches and pulled some out at random and showed how out of touch he is with recent technology.


Full Dark No Stars was OK.  I found the first novella to be rather boring.  The other 3 stories were good, especially the last one.
 
2014-07-16 01:14:36 PM  

lilplatinum: I like the short story where the ex-doctor is stranded on an island with just his journal, medical tools and some heroin and uses the heroin to kill the pain as he sever and eat his limbs.   Last entry is him singing the big mac song.


He was eating his fingers
 
2014-07-16 01:14:59 PM  

mjjt: One of coolest short stories I've read is his Quitters Inc

It's a quick read here  http://bitsofbooks.com/quitter.html


12 past midnight, or cat's eyes? Can't remember. damn good story though.
 
2014-07-16 01:15:37 PM  

John Buck 41: someonelse: SauronWasFramed: I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.

I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff: "Full Dark, No Stars," "Lisey's Story," "Under the Dome," and "Doctor Sleep."

I liked FDNS as well, along with the non-fiction On Writing that this entire article rips off is based on. That said, I do think his best work was done before he got C & S.


I don't know what "C & S" stands for, but you're probably right anyway. That said, I think this list listicle (and by extension "On Writing") actually contains some excellent advice for writers.
 
2014-07-16 01:20:01 PM  

someonelse: John Buck 41: someonelse: SauronWasFramed: I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.

I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff: "Full Dark, No Stars," "Lisey's Story," "Under the Dome," and "Doctor Sleep."

I liked FDNS as well, along with the non-fiction On Writing that this entire article rips off is based on. That said, I do think his best work was done before he got C & S.

I don't know what "C & S" stands for, but you're probably right anyway. That said, I think this list listicle (and by extension "On Writing") actually contains some excellent advice for writers.


Clean & sober.
 
2014-07-16 01:31:18 PM  

someonelse: John Buck 41: someonelse: SauronWasFramed: I loved Salem's Lot.  Everything since is just crap.

I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff: "Full Dark, No Stars," "Lisey's Story," "Under the Dome," and "Doctor Sleep."

I liked FDNS as well, along with the non-fiction On Writing that this entire article rips off is based on. That said, I do think his best work was done before he got C & S.

I don't know what "C & S" stands for, but you're probably right anyway. That said, I think this list listicle (and by extension "On Writing") actually contains some excellent advice for writers.


Clean & Sober. I call it the Steve effect (as in King and Earle). Both went downhill after they quit being junkies/alcoholics.
 
2014-07-16 01:33:43 PM  

Casey Anthony: I admit I put my dog to sleep after reading Cujo.


If I read that book out loud, I would have put the whole neighborhood to sleep.

/Yeah, yeah.  I know what you meant. :-)
 
2014-07-16 01:37:41 PM  
I think I have all of Stephen King's books.


I'm afraid one day he is going to want them all back.
 
2014-07-16 01:38:09 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Stealth Hippopotamus: In just ten 500 page volumes

With a terrible ending


Thank you both for this. Best LOL I've had all day.
 
2014-07-16 01:43:28 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: mjjt: One of coolest short stories I've read is his Quitters Inc

It's a quick read here  http://bitsofbooks.com/quitter.html

12 past midnight, or cat's eyes? Can't remember. damn good story though.


I thought it was Night Shift.  Cat's Eye was the anthology movie which had an adaptation of that story in it.
 
2014-07-16 01:57:21 PM  
1. write a lot

2. Sell a lot of books

3. repeat
 
2014-07-16 01:58:26 PM  

CarnySaur: Uchiha_Cycliste: mjjt: One of coolest short stories I've read is his Quitters Inc

It's a quick read here  http://bitsofbooks.com/quitter.html

12 past midnight, or cat's eyes? Can't remember. damn good story though.

I thought it was Night Shift.  Cat's Eye was the anthology movie which had an adaptation of that story in it.


Wow, I screwed that up in every way I could, great.
also thanks, always really liked his collections of short stories. Even after sunset. Actually, especially the cycling story in after sunset.
 
2014-07-16 02:10:40 PM  
16. Understand that writing is a form of telepathy.

I've been looking for a way to describe this for a long time now.  I've usually said the "reading is like getting a glimpse into the mind of an author."

I think this explains why things like posthumous sequels (e.g. the "Pern" novels written by Todd McCaffery and the "Dune" novels written by Brian Herbert) and serializations (e.g. the Star Wars Extended Universe) are so unsatisfying: The mind you really want to receive that telepathic communication from isn't the one doing the writing.  It's the difference between having sex and having sex with someone you're madly in love with.  Physically, they're the same.  Both are words on a page or bodies engaging in procreation.  But beyond that, there's no comparison.  The imitation, by its very nature, will never come close to the actual.
 
2014-07-16 02:13:52 PM  
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C-c-c-co-cocaine!
 
2014-07-16 02:21:02 PM  

tillerman35:   Both are words on a page or bodies engaging in procreation.  But beyond that, there's no comparison.  The imitation, by its very nature, will never come close to the actual.


Hey, ya gets what ya pays for.
 
2014-07-16 02:24:08 PM  
Sorry Fark, I know the hate is hip and trendy and makes you feel superior, but I am going to go ahead and continue to enjoy Stephen King.
 
2014-07-16 02:32:35 PM  
I don't think that King is a great writer in the sense that his works will endure for ages. However, he is widely read and financially successful, so in that sense a very successful writer. Sort of our times' Charles Dickens.
 
2014-07-16 02:35:01 PM  

simplicimus: I don't think that King is a great writer in the sense that his works will endure for ages. However, he is widely read and financially successful, so in that sense a very successful writer. Sort of our times' Charles Dickens.

 
2014-07-16 02:35:52 PM  

CarnySaur: Uchiha_Cycliste: mjjt: One of coolest short stories I've read is his Quitters Inc

It's a quick read here  http://bitsofbooks.com/quitter.html

12 past midnight, or cat's eyes? Can't remember. damn good story though.

I thought it was Night Shift.  Cat's Eye was the anthology movie which had an adaptation of that story in it.


It was Night Shift.
 
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