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(Huffington Post)   So it begins...Obama tells House Committee on Un-American Activities to go pound sand   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 135
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2014-07-16 05:51:07 AM  
It's possible that a court could be pulled into the matter and force his testimony, which was the case in 2008 when President George W. Bush was overruled in his assertion that his top aides were immune from congressional subpoenas. But in that case, there was some evidence of inappropriate activity, which was related to the U.S. Attorney scandal.

Evidence schmevidence.
 
2014-07-16 06:40:04 AM  
UPDATE: 7:45 p.m. -- Simas is immune from a congressional subpoena and will not appear for Wednesday's hearing, Eggleston said in a Tuesday night letter to Issa.


Is it wrong that made me want to touch myself at work?
 
2014-07-16 07:34:49 AM  
Issa's just grasping at straws, and has been for years.  he has nothing and these people shouldn't have the waste their time.
 
2014-07-16 07:35:48 AM  

dookdookdook: It's possible that a court could be pulled into the matter and force his testimony, which was the case in 2008 when President George W. Bush was overruled in his assertion that his top aides were immune from congressional subpoenas. But in that case, there was some evidence of inappropriate activity, which was related to the U.S. Attorney scandal.

Evidence schmevidence.


hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence.
 
2014-07-16 07:41:19 AM  

ManateeGag: dookdookdook: It's possible that a court could be pulled into the matter and force his testimony, which was the case in 2008 when President George W. Bush was overruled in his assertion that his top aides were immune from congressional subpoenas. But in that case, there was some evidence of inappropriate activity, which was related to the U.S. Attorney scandal.

Evidence schmevidence.

hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence.


It doesn't even sound like he has that much.  He's pretty much shouting, "Because reasons!", at the White House.
 
2014-07-16 08:44:25 AM  
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2014-07-16 08:46:59 AM  
Issa's got 99 subpoenas but a Simas ain't one.
 
2014-07-16 08:48:11 AM  
Isn't it interesting that according to the republicans, White House officials must comply with House of Representative subpoenas but House staffers are immune from SEC subpoenas.
 
2014-07-16 08:50:50 AM  
In a supposed literate first world country, how in the hell hasn't Issa been berated into dropping this transparent sham?  The fact that there are people in this country that look at what he's doing and think "Boy, this looks like a good use of my tax dollars" is evidence that we need to give our mental health system a lot more resources.
 
2014-07-16 08:52:49 AM  
"Mr. Simas is still under subpoena and is expected to appear at tomorrow's hearing," Issa wrote. "I believe his on-the-record testimony will provide valuable insight into White House efforts to ensure appropriate use of taxpayer funds."

Right.  And your incessant witch hunts are an appropriate use of taxpayer funds?
 
2014-07-16 08:53:11 AM  
I see what you did there, subby, but that's "House Committing Un-American Activities."

/Same now as in the '50s
 
2014-07-16 08:53:43 AM  
Part of me wants this to be the Waterloo of the Tea Party, but I can't bring myself to get my hopes up.
 
2014-07-16 08:54:15 AM  
How many members of that committee have sworn fealty to an unelected lobbyist whose goal is to see our infrastructure reduced to rubble?
 
2014-07-16 08:54:26 AM  

runwiz: Isn't it interesting that according to the republicans, White House officials must comply with House of Representative subpoenas but House staffers are immune from SEC subpoenas.


If by "interesting" you mean "boring and obvious," sure.

Double standards and hypocrisy are the only things the Republicans in Congress produce anymore.
 
2014-07-16 08:56:05 AM  

SoupGuru: In a supposed literate first world country, how in the hell hasn't Issa been berated into dropping this transparent sham?  The fact that there are people in this country that look at what he's doing and think "Boy, this looks like a good use of my tax dollars" is evidence that we need to give our mental health system a lot more resources.


He's against the black guy, so they love him.
 
2014-07-16 08:59:02 AM  

Flab: "Mr. Simas is still under subpoena and is expected to appear at tomorrow's hearing," Issa wrote. "I believe his on-the-record testimony will provide valuable insight into White House efforts to ensure appropriate use of taxpayer funds."

Right.  And your incessant witch hunts are an appropriate use of taxpayer funds?



No kidding.
 
2014-07-16 09:03:06 AM  
I'm sure this is going to mean that Obama is hiding something.
 
2014-07-16 09:03:24 AM  
So, his lawyer says the subpoena is invalid?

Well that's good enough for me, I guess....
 
2014-07-16 09:04:29 AM  
Issa should really call his mother or other loved one, and tell her he hopes that she has a great day
 
2014-07-16 09:05:58 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: SoupGuru: In a supposed literate first world country, how in the hell hasn't Issa been berated into dropping this transparent sham?  The fact that there are people in this country that look at what he's doing and think "Boy, this looks like a good use of my tax dollars" is evidence that we need to give our mental health system a lot more resources.

He's against the black guy, so they love him.


Even that's an exaggeration. All his current status implies is that (checks Wiki) 58% of the voters in his district decided he was slightly more competent than his last opponent.
 
2014-07-16 09:11:59 AM  
Including Simas' subpoena, Issa has now issued 99 subpoenas since becoming the committee chairman -- more than all three previous committee chairmen combined.

This man is fishing for anything and claiming success when he pulls up nothing but his own bait.
 
2014-07-16 09:12:01 AM  
My question for conservatives is this:  Will you accept any valid, documented and corroborated testimony or evidence that does not provide you with material that will allow you to impeach this President?  Is there anything that anyone, anywhere, can say that will cause you to change your position on this matter?

Endlessly digging for that one piece of evidence, that one loose statement, that one hanging thread that unravels your opponents entire position is something that crazy people do.
 
2014-07-16 09:15:34 AM  
Hahaha, Issa is a buffoon flinging shiat against the wall to see what will stick. Nothing has yet except in the wingnutosphere where the president is a sociofascist Muslim. Keep clicking your heels togethere Issa, maybe someday you'll find a scandal.
 
2014-07-16 09:16:13 AM  
F-I-F  Fif!
 
2014-07-16 09:18:20 AM  

Great_Milenko: My question for conservatives is this:  Will you accept any valid, documented and corroborated testimony or evidence that does not provide you with material that will allow you to impeach this President?  Is there anything that anyone, anywhere, can say that will cause you to change your position on this matter?

Endlessly digging for that one piece of evidence, that one loose statement, that one hanging thread that unravels your opponents entire position is something that crazy people do.


They're working backwards from a foregone conclusion. Evidence is irrelevant.
I don't think you'll get any "conservative" here on Fark to admit that they would amend their beliefs in the face of evidence, or the absence of evidence.

They want to believe that their President is corrupt, wicked and illegitimate. It's unpleasant and unthinkable for them to consider that they might be wrong.
 
2014-07-16 09:20:02 AM  
HUAC is a bit of a stretchy comparison there, subby, since Issa is pretending to enforce a real law.

/although without any evidence...
//hyperbolic headlines?
///on my Fark?
 
2014-07-16 09:20:21 AM  

Flab: "Mr. Simas is still under subpoena and is expected to appear at tomorrow's hearing," Issa wrote. "I believe his on-the-record testimony will provide valuable insight into White House efforts to ensure appropriate use of taxpayer funds."

Right.  And your incessant witch hunts are an appropriate use of taxpayer funds?


Well, I never seen a real witch, so the witch hunts are working.
 
2014-07-16 09:20:41 AM  
Congratulations, congressman, on becoming the spiritual successor to Ken Starr.
 
2014-07-16 09:24:12 AM  
I invented a word to describe people like Issa: grandstanhole

A grandstanding asshole.
 
2014-07-16 09:32:56 AM  
Number of republicans that have publicly called out Issa = ZERO. They ALL agree with this farker.

Sorry kids, don't want to get lumped in with this asshole? Clean up your own house.
 
2014-07-16 09:33:46 AM  
Is this prick running unopposed? Are we guaranteed two more years of Issa's bullshiat?
 
2014-07-16 09:35:51 AM  

GhostFish: Great_Milenko: My question for conservatives is this:  Will you accept any valid, documented and corroborated testimony or evidence that does not provide you with material that will allow you to impeach this President?  Is there anything that anyone, anywhere, can say that will cause you to change your position on this matter?

Endlessly digging for that one piece of evidence, that one loose statement, that one hanging thread that unravels your opponents entire position is something that crazy people do.

They're working backwards from a foregone conclusion. Evidence is irrelevant.
I don't think you'll get any "conservative" here on Fark to admit that they would amend their beliefs in the face of evidence, or the absence of evidence.

They want to believe that their President is corrupt, wicked and illegitimate. It's unpleasant and unthinkable for them to consider that they might be wrong.


Or that, worse yet, the very champions these conservatives have been backing for years are, in fact, the problem and not the solution.
 
2014-07-16 09:36:17 AM  
"I been through this movie before." - Bob Dylan
 
2014-07-16 09:36:56 AM  
99 subpoenas on the wall, 99 subpoenas, take one down, pass it around...100 subpoenas on the wall
 
2014-07-16 09:38:52 AM  
FTA: Including Simas' subpoena,  since becoming the committee chairman -- more than all three previous committee chairmen combined.

99 subpoenas, but they stick on none.
 
2014-07-16 09:39:02 AM  
Fun fact: Darrell Issa is literally the person who invented car alarms. (yarly)

So every time you get woken up at 3 AM because a bird crapped on your neighbor's car, thank Darrell Issa.
 
2014-07-16 09:41:55 AM  

ib_thinkin: FTA: Including Simas' subpoena, [Issa has now issued 99 subpoenas] since becoming the committee chairman -- more than all three previous committee chairmen combined.

99 subpoenas, but they stick on none.


Oh, for fark's sake.
 
2014-07-16 09:42:23 AM  
Wait a second...

"At the conclusion of the briefing, the Republican staffer leading the meeting thanked the White House and said, 'That's all the questions I have,'" according to materials provided by Cummings' office. "This afternoon, Chairman Issa sent a letter to the White House stating: 'The briefing provided to Committee staff today, while helpful and appreciated, did not answer all questions.'"

So WH staff come and answer all the questions the Republicans have, and then Issa complains that the briefing didn't answer all questions?

Go fark yourself, asshole.  Either you are accepting the White House's explanations in private and then showboating in public just to get teabagger votes, or you're just plain bad at your job - if you had important questions, you should either have provided them to your staffer to ask at the meeting, or gone to the farking meeting to ask the questions yourself.
 
2014-07-16 09:42:57 AM  

The Muthaship: So, his lawyer says the subpoena is invalid?

Well that's good enough for me, I guess....


If Issa actually has ANY evidence of wrongdoing, he can go before a court to present it and the court could order Simas to testify based on that evidence.

But I don't think Issa has shiat and he's grasping at straws to get anything to stick to Obama.  This isn't any different than Boehner's lawsuit against Obama, or the upcoming 9th Benghazi hearing.
 
2014-07-16 09:43:00 AM  

dookdookdook: Fun fact: Darrell Issa is literally the person who invented car alarms. (yarly)

So every time you get woken up at 3 AM because a bird crapped on your neighbor's car, thank Darrell Issa.


the bit about how his business burned down after the fire insurance was increased is even more interesting.
 
2014-07-16 09:44:25 AM  

grokca: Flab: "Mr. Simas is still under subpoena and is expected to appear at tomorrow's hearing," Issa wrote. "I believe his on-the-record testimony will provide valuable insight into White House efforts to ensure appropriate use of taxpayer funds."

Right.  And your incessant witch hunts are an appropriate use of taxpayer funds?

Well, I never seen a real witch, so the witch hunts are working.


I carry around a rock that repels bears.  Never seen any bears around me, so it must work.
 
2014-07-16 09:47:49 AM  

Unknown_Poltroon: dookdookdook: Fun fact: Darrell Issa is literally the person who invented car alarms. (yarly)

So every time you get woken up at 3 AM because a bird crapped on your neighbor's car, thank Darrell Issa.

the bit about how his business burned down after the fire insurance was increased is even more interesting.


On balance, though, don't car alarms bring far more misery to the world than insurance fraud?
 
2014-07-16 09:49:07 AM  

clkeagle: Even that's an exaggeration. All his current status implies is that (checks Wiki) 58% of the voters in his district decided he was slightly more competent than his last opponent.


He's committee chair. Which district do I move to in order to elect one of those?
 
2014-07-16 09:49:24 AM  
Let them posture and complain all they want... a Judge will probably have the final say in the matter.
 
2014-07-16 09:51:39 AM  

DemonEater: Wait a second...

"At the conclusion of the briefing, the Republican staffer leading the meeting thanked the White House and said, 'That's all the questions I have,'" according to materials provided by Cummings' office. "This afternoon, Chairman Issa sent a letter to the White House stating: 'The briefing provided to Committee staff today, while helpful and appreciated, did not answer all questions.'"

So WH staff come and answer all the questions the Republicans have, and then Issa complains that the briefing didn't answer all questions?

Go fark yourself, asshole.  Either you are accepting the White House's explanations in private and then showboating in public just to get teabagger votes, or you're just plain bad at your job - if you had important questions, you should either have provided them to your staffer to ask at the meeting, or gone to the farking meeting to ask the questions yourself.



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DARREL ISSA

 
2014-07-16 09:54:40 AM  

Great_Milenko: My question for conservatives is this:  Will you accept any valid, documented and corroborated testimony or evidence that does not provide you with material that will allow you to impeach this President?  Is there anything that anyone, anywhere, can say that will cause you to change your position on this matter?

Endlessly digging for that one piece of evidence, that one loose statement, that one hanging thread that unravels your opponents entire position is something that crazy people do.


Hey, lack of evidence is only evidence of lack of evidence which doesn't preclude the possibility of evidence implying that such evidence could even be said to be missing evidence in which case it may be that someone is hiding evidence so we have to investigate because evidently we've got nothing.  Benghazi.
 
2014-07-16 09:56:47 AM  
Issa's goal seems to be simply to waste as much time of as many people as possible in order to prevent the administration from getting anything done. And then he'll probably complain that government is inefficient.
 
2014-07-16 09:58:42 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Issa's goal seems to be simply to waste as much time of as many people as possible in order to prevent the administration from getting anything done. And then he'll probably complain that government is inefficient.


"The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then they get elected and prove it."  ~  P.J. O'Rourke
 
2014-07-16 10:01:35 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Wyalt Derp: Issa's goal seems to be simply to waste as much time of as many people as possible in order to prevent the administration from getting anything done. And then he'll probably complain that government is inefficient.

"The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then they get elected and prove it."  ~  P.J. O'Rourke RAND PAUL

 
2014-07-16 10:02:28 AM  

DemonEater: Wait a second...

"At the conclusion of the briefing, the Republican staffer leading the meeting thanked the White House and said, 'That's all the questions I have,'" according to materials provided by Cummings' office. "This afternoon, Chairman Issa sent a letter to the White House stating: 'The briefing provided to Committee staff today, while helpful and appreciated, did not answer all questions.'"

So WH staff come and answer all the questions the Republicans have, and then Issa complains that the briefing didn't answer all questions?

Go fark yourself, asshole.  Either you are accepting the White House's explanations in private and then showboating in public just to get teabagger votes, or you're just plain bad at your job - if you had important questions, you should either have provided them to your staffer to ask at the meeting, or gone to the farking meeting to ask the questions yourself.


Actually, he's stunning at his job. It's just that his job isn't what anyone here thinks it is, at this point.

His job isn't to find answers, or prosecute criminals. His job is to serve as an intimidation factor, a constant thorn in the side of the Obama administration.

You didn't see this sort of thing when Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and others were busily destroying this country's international reputation, domestic economy, and secular gains - no, the Congressional committees formed at that time were meant to support all of those efforts. During Dubya's Debacle, committees hammered on everything from legal protections for U.S. citizens to the Clean Water Act.

Issa's doing a great job. Along with other forms of Congressional obstinacy, his useless witch hunts have ground progress to a halt - which was the whole point. Issa couldn't find his own ass in the dark with both hands, a map, and a flashlight, but that makes him ideal for a never-ending committee with which the GOP can sandbag the Obama administration, and his administration's appointees, workers, and possible successors (remember, the whole idea of Benghazi wasn't to attack Obama, but Clinton, so she couldn't run successfully for office in 2016.)

The fact that Issa's a mere tool, a tiny, impotent cog in the GOP machine, doesn't make him any less important or useful - without him, Congress would have to do a lot more work, involving more people, to smear political targets. With this, if Issa makes a misstep, well, only Issa gets the boot - "overzealous staffer" and all that - and the GOP can continue using other efforts and other expendable morons.
 
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