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2014-07-15 08:50:19 PM
Well I'll grab my spears and buckler.....

www.grey-tower.net

I will also be offering unconditional protection for any Texas residents skilled in blacksmithing who want it.
 
2014-07-15 08:55:01 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: "Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten."

― Cree Indian Prophecy


This
 
2014-07-15 08:56:16 PM

ScaryBottles: Well I'll grab my spears and buckler.....



I will also be offering unconditional protection for any Texas residents skilled in blacksmithing who want it.


Sooo; we're gonna turn Aiel? Fun times!
 
2014-07-15 09:00:10 PM
I've been assured by Fark Independents that the free market guarantees the best outcomes.

Why would this be any different?
 
2014-07-15 09:05:31 PM
Sadly, the world is going to have to start getting by without being fed by the U.S.  I've never been entirely convinced that trying to long-distance-support populations of billions that were otherwise unsustainable is really a good thing to do, long term.   At least China can feed themselves now, which helps. It won't hurt the U.S. economy because we've been giving the food away for free anyway.
 
2014-07-15 09:05:48 PM
Just want to point out that there is not enough hate for Texas in this thread.

/I love escaped Texans
//Let Texas bake away
///you Texans took a wrong turn somewares
 
2014-07-15 09:10:06 PM
Why can't farmers just make more water?
 
2014-07-15 09:14:02 PM

rustypouch: I've been assured by Fark Independents that the free market guarantees the best outcomes.


And I have been assured by Fark Libs that the government would take care of us all.

/answer probably lies somewhere in between.
 
2014-07-15 09:17:18 PM

CruJones: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: KarmicDisaster: I like the way that they are "pumping the last drops". Then they can try shootin the ground.

Everyone in Texas is against conservation of water, because it would cost jobs.

Hey, here in San Antonio we do really well actually. I think the same amount of water as when the city was half the size, ever since they found the blind salamander we have to be gentle with our aquifer. Really.

/we are building a new desalination plant too


SA Represent! Brushing my teeth with tequila was only hard the first time.
 
2014-07-15 09:18:40 PM

HeadLever:  I have been assured by Fark Libs that the government would take care of us all.


Cite the comment ? Oh wait, it never happened, did it?
 
2014-07-15 09:18:58 PM
This has been known for a while, and too few were willing to take corrective action until things got bad.  Sounds like our current climate change policy issues.
 
2014-07-15 09:19:58 PM

HeadLever: rustypouch: I've been assured by Fark Independents that the free market guarantees the best outcomes.

And I have been assured by Fark Libs that the government would take care of us all.

/answer probably lies somewhere in between.


Agreed that some regulation is needed.

But I don't recall anyone saying that the government should take care of everything, but it's not hard to find people complaining about government overreach and job killing regulations.
 
2014-07-15 09:20:15 PM

dangelder: Cite the comment ? Oh wait, it never happened, did it?


Same place as RP found the comments by the Fark Independents.  Poking the strawmen is fun, isn't it?
 
2014-07-15 09:21:32 PM
It's just as well. DHMO is a dangerous chemical that has been implicated in the deaths of millions of Americans.
 
2014-07-15 09:23:01 PM

HeadLever: dangelder: Cite the comment ? Oh wait, it never happened, did it?

Same place as RP found the comments by the Fark Independents.  Poking the strawmen is fun, isn't it?


I've been hanging around here for a while and I have seen the appeals to the free market, but I haven't seen anyone seriously contend the government will take care of us all, and I don't know what it means or why it would be fun to poke a strawman.
 
2014-07-15 09:23:37 PM
Usul, tell me of your home world...
 
2014-07-15 09:24:00 PM
I do find it amusing to see teabagger Texans who rallied against environmental regulations discover that their business depends on the environment.
 
2014-07-15 09:24:22 PM

rustypouch: but it's not hard to find people complaining about government overreach and job killing regulations.


Arguing against federal overreach is not the same as saying that laissez-faire markets guarantees the best outcomes.  The feds do overreach from time to time.  Some regulations do kill jobs.  Complaining about that is to be expected.
 
2014-07-15 09:25:48 PM

dangelder: I've been hanging around here for a while and I have seen the appeals to the free market,


In what degree?  Free market with appropriate oversight or laissez-faire free market?  There is a bit of a difference.
 
2014-07-15 09:26:38 PM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Marcus Aurelius: Brontes: The EPA should come down on bottled water companies like a ton of bricks for wasting resources, both water and vast amounts of fuel.

The bottled water market is a drop in the bucket compared to the demand coming from cities in the southwest.  Bottled water itself is retarded, but it comes from places where water is cheap and plentiful.

Not in California is doesn't.  Nestle's Arrowhead is pumping water from aquifers out in the desert, and because the land is owned by Native American tribes, there's zero oversight as to how much water they are taking.

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-ar ro whead-tapping-water/12589267/


struckbyenlightning.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-15 09:26:39 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I do find it amusing to see teabagger Texans who rallied against environmental regulations discover that their business depends on the environment.

Most of us who live in the urban areas of Texas are finding it pretty funny too.
 
2014-07-15 09:29:05 PM

ScaryBottles: Well I'll grab my spears and buckler.....



I will also be offering unconditional protection for any Texas residents skilled in blacksmithing who want it.


May you always find water and shade
 
2014-07-15 09:29:53 PM

rustypouch: I've been assured by Fark Independents that the free market guarantees the best outcomes.

Why would this be any different?


Free market only works well when the costs are borne by the producers at about the same time and place as the product is made.  Then they pass the costs on to the consumer, and if another producer finds a better way or place, the free market selects them.  But if the costs aren't part of the initial process, then the market is skewed towards those that would use resources and produce as quickly and cheaply as possible, even if everyone ends up paying more (for federal disaster aid, etc.) as a result.
 
2014-07-15 09:30:01 PM

Trayal: ScaryBottles: Well I'll grab my spears and buckler.....

I will also be offering unconditional protection for any Texas residents skilled in blacksmithing who want it.

May you always find water and shade


Peace be on your spear brother.
 
2014-07-15 09:33:35 PM
I wanted to crank the numbers on a solar thermal plant that heats sea water until it can flash to steam, run through a turbine, then condensed in a heat  exchanger that preheats incoming sea water. Bound to be practical somewhere.
 
2014-07-15 09:35:39 PM
Good riddance. DMHO is an extremely dangerous chemical anyway.
 
2014-07-15 09:35:39 PM

wildcardjack: I wanted to crank the numbers on a solar thermal plant that heats sea water until it can flash to steam, run through a turbine, then condensed in a heat  exchanger that preheats incoming sea water. Bound to be practical somewhere.


$1 trillion; per unit. No bid contract with Halliburton.
 
2014-07-15 09:38:46 PM

wildcardjack: Bound to be practical somewhere.


It is practical, just not economical in many circumstances when you compare it to most available sources of fresh water. Desal through distillation has been used forever, but it is energy intensive.
 
2014-07-15 09:40:50 PM

maddogdelta: Good riddance. DMHO is an extremely dangerous chemical anyway.


We've got Gatorade.....
 
2014-07-15 09:41:30 PM

dangelder: and I don't know what it means or why it would be fun to poke a strawman


Because it is much easier to poke the strawman than to actually address the real argument.  Most of the rhetorical comments here are basically strawmen.
 
2014-07-15 09:41:53 PM
Oh no. Not Texas. Not that shining bastion of rational thought and humanitarian concern. Oh how it makes me weep.
 
2014-07-15 09:42:00 PM
How can I make money from this? Assume that things will keep getting worse, what is a good investment for long term profits?
 
2014-07-15 09:42:34 PM
I'm sure they will pick themselves up by the bootstraps. Let's not worry.
 
2014-07-15 09:46:26 PM

HeadLever: wildcardjack: Bound to be practical somewhere.

It is practical, just not economical in many circumstances when you compare it to most available sources of fresh water. Desal through distillation has been used forever, but it is energy intensive.


The idea is desal through using the sea water as the working fluid in a solar plant. Solar combined power and water is the soup rain.
 
2014-07-15 09:46:28 PM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Dancin_In_Anson: The article mentioned pivot irrigation which is a HUGE waste.

Better than flood irrigation, that they do out here in California despite the drought.  Something like 80% of the water use in California goes to agriculture, and because the water is subsidized, its so cheap that they'd rather flood a grove of trees than use drip or other more efficient irrigation methods.  Of course, it would also help if they didn't plant water hungry plants like Almond Trees or rice as well, but that's apparently where the money is.


Yeah, but water can't be readily shipped anywhere very far at affordable cost, so it really doesn't matter. It's not like farmers are pouring it on the ground while little kids die of thirst and hunger.

[insert Pulitzer winning photo here...you know the one I mean]

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Californians would rather steal it from everyone else. And if it keeps them away from me I'd call that a fair exchange.


Another old wife's tale. According to the Sierra Club, California uses about 82 MAF of water each year for all purposes, from keeping salmon fry happy to flushing my toilet. Of that, only 4.4 MAF...or about 5% comes from the Colorado River, the ONLY arguably out-of-state source of California water. Every drop of the rest is from in-State. Even the Colorado River water is obviously at least partially "California" water, since the river flows through California for a couple hundred miles forming our border with Aridzona.
 
2014-07-15 09:46:35 PM

Calm: How can I make money from this? Assume that things will keep getting worse, what is a good investment for long term profits?


Buy farmland with a reliable source of water.  Beef and Pork prices are already at or near all-time highs.  Agriculture may end up coming back 'in style' it this keeps up.
 
2014-07-15 09:50:26 PM

wildcardjack: The idea is desal through using the sea water as the working fluid in a solar plant. Solar combined power and water is the soup rain.


Yes, I know.  However, you still need a very high input of energy (in this case direct solar).  It is still very expensive for us to capture this energy (mostly capital cost as the O&M on these are pretty low).
 
2014-07-15 09:50:56 PM
Meanwhile, (also) in Texas...

s.newsweek.com
 
2014-07-15 09:54:26 PM

Stone Meadow: Of that, only 4.4 MAF...or about 5% comes from the Colorado River,


True, but that 4.4MAF is about 27% of the total appropriated water for this river.  California has the largest 'right' of any single state for Colorado River water.
 
2014-07-15 09:59:11 PM
This is the best part of the whole article. ""We got our faith in the Good Lord," says Schur. "He's the one who provides. He's the one who determines what we're going to make ... But, you know, he's certainly testing our patience."  "
Yep, so bootstrappy. It took God 50,000 years to put that water in place, 100 years for you to pig it all, now he won't refill it and it "tests you patience" Just standing there waiting for your entitlement handout. good luck with that.
 
2014-07-15 09:59:14 PM

HeadLever: dangelder: Cite the comment ? Oh wait, it never happened, did it?

Same place as RP found the comments by the Fark Independents.  Poking the strawmen is fun, isn't it?


In the threads about Bundy, for a recent example.

I'm on my phone, and am having issues copying.

Also, are you admitting to making a straw man?
 
2014-07-15 10:03:59 PM

rustypouch: In the threads about Bundy, for a recent example.


Really?  Where?  I have been in a number of them and don't remember anyone saying that laissez-faire markets guarantees the best outcomes. Feel free to show me where.
 
2014-07-15 10:05:37 PM

HeadLever: Calm: How can I make money from this? Assume that things will keep getting worse, what is a good investment for long term profits?

Buy farmland with a reliable source of water.  Beef and Pork prices are already at or near all-time highs.  Agriculture may end up coming back 'in style' it this keeps up.


Unfortunately most the best farmland is real expensive, contaminated or covered with strip malls and townhouses.
 
2014-07-15 10:09:23 PM

rustypouch: Also, are you admitting to making a straw man?


Pretty much.  They get lonely too.
 
2014-07-15 10:09:37 PM

CruJones: /we are building a new desalination plant too


We should be building enough of these to green up deserts. But the EPA hates 'em.

You're lucky they're letting you build one near you.
 
2014-07-15 10:10:12 PM

TravelingFreakshow: CruJones: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: KarmicDisaster: I like the way that they are "pumping the last drops". Then they can try shootin the ground.

Everyone in Texas is against conservation of water, because it would cost jobs.

Hey, here in San Antonio we do really well actually. I think the same amount of water as when the city was half the size, ever since they found the blind salamander we have to be gentle with our aquifer. Really.

/we are building a new desalination plant too

SA Represent! Brushing my teeth with tequila was only hard the first time.




Last time I lived in SA, the citizens voted against building a water reservoir, because taxes.
 
2014-07-15 10:10:51 PM

maddogdelta: Good riddance. DMHO is an extremely dangerous chemical anyway.


Do they still make that stuff? I thought it had been outlawed a long time ago.
 
2014-07-15 10:11:55 PM

big pig peaches: Unfortunately most the best farmland is real expensive, contaminated or covered with strip malls and townhouses.


Yep.  No one ever said it would be easy.
 
2014-07-15 10:12:43 PM
Why does everyone hate the job creators?  All the people using water and draining the entire region are obviously job creators.  Leave them alone.

Isn't it true that ALL conservatives think the conservation is the same as Communism?  I've heard that over and over again from every person claiming they are true Conservatives.  Personally, I hope they all die.

God hates stupid people, that why they should be allowed to die.

I've got an idea!  Why don't you idiots in Texas pray for water?  That always works.
 
2014-07-15 10:17:03 PM

iheartscotch: I keep saying that Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas should pool resources and build several massive desalination plants on the Gulf of Mexico and pipe in water. But, it won't happen till the Oglala is tapped out.


That's going to come at a massive price.  Three double digit percentage increases for me in 4 years for a 31 mile pipeline and no desal plant.
 
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