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(Deadspin)   An honest version of the Derek Jeter TV spot   (deadspin.com) divider line 31
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2014-07-15 10:56:54 AM
He's batting a very respectable .272 this year. That puts his 35th overall and 6th amongst short stops in the American League. Hits, he's 30th and 5th, respectively. RBI's, 100th and 5th.

Jeter's lifetime stats versus Lester:

AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
71 24 1 0 1 10 7 11 .338 .405 .394 .799

I'm an O's fan, but the man is still a very good hitter. And a better than average short stop.

/Also, in that game, Jeter went 1 for 3 with a walk and an RBI.
 
2014-07-15 11:26:32 AM
Someone should do one where they cut to a room full of women with gift baskets who tip their hats.
 
2014-07-15 12:46:17 PM
They need to make one for A Rod.
 
2014-07-15 12:59:23 PM

bdub77: They need to make one for A Rod.


But nobody wants to see a minute long spot of people spitting.
 
2014-07-15 01:04:50 PM

nmrsnr: bdub77: They need to make one for A Rod.

But nobody wants to see a minute long spot of people spitting.


You could have celebrities like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa pretend to inject sh*t into their veins in tribute as ARod goes up to the plate and strikes out to boos.

You know you want to see this.
 
2014-07-15 01:06:34 PM
His next lucrative endorsement deal will be with Valtrex.
 
2014-07-15 01:16:11 PM

bdub77: You could have celebrities like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa pretend to inject sh*t into their veins in tribute as ARod goes up to the plate and strikes out to boos.


You know, when I was watching the HR derby last night and they were doing the highlights from the past, it's so clear when the 'roid era was. It goes athletic guy, athletic guy, HULK SMASH, athletic guy, etc.
 
2014-07-15 01:28:58 PM
I find it funny that pretend AJ is still a Red Sox in the commercial.  And that he doesn't acknowledge Jeter.
 
2014-07-15 02:23:04 PM

Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.


lolno

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2014-07-15 02:32:29 PM

bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

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Yes, using that one metric he's below average. However, if you look at a different metric, say fielding percentage, he is above average (5th out of 12 in the American League, 12th out of 26 in the Majors). And not to get all reality on your sabernerdfest, but there are the intangibles that one has to consider, too. Like the other day when he faked a double play to...well, get a different double play.
 
2014-07-15 02:36:30 PM

bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

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So at 40 years old, he's still significantly better at defense than one of the most desireable SSs in the league (Hanley). Got it.
 
2014-07-15 02:46:37 PM
Its going to be the MLB Alljeter game tonight from the announcers box isnt it?
 
2014-07-15 02:50:50 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Yes, using that one metric he's below average. However, if you look at a different metric, say fielding percentage, he is above average (5th out of 12 in the American League, 12th out of 26 in the Majors). And not to get all reality on your sabernerdfest, but there are the intangibles that one has to consider, too. Like the other day when he faked a double play to...well, get a different double play.


I'm one of the biggest Jeter fans there is, but FPCT has some pretty significant inadequacies, namely it doesn't really take range into account, which just happens to be the biggest defensive criticism of Jeter.

mikaloyd: Its going to be the MLB Alljeter game tonight from the announcers box isnt it?


Jeter likely plays no more than 4, maybe 5 innings.. though, that probably won't stop Buck/Reynolds/Verducci from talking about him well into the 9th.
 
2014-07-15 02:57:52 PM
As A Sox fan I like Jeter. Thought the original commercial was pretty cool and a nice tribute to a great player and class on at that.
 
2014-07-15 02:58:29 PM

nmrsnr: bdub77: They need to make one for A Rod.

But nobody wants to see a minute long spot of people spitting.


Au contraire! I'd love to see a minute-long spot of people spitting, shaking their heads in condemnation, etc., followed by the slogan "Assho13" - somebody should really make that.
 
2014-07-15 03:05:27 PM

aintnuttintofarkwith: bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

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So at 40 years old, he's still significantly better at defense than one of the most desireable SSs in the league (Hanley). Got it.


No one has ever desired Hanley's glove. Like Jeter has been his whole career, he's someone you tolerate on D because the bat is special.
 
2014-07-15 03:08:22 PM

neon_god: aintnuttintofarkwith: bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

[img.fark.net image 758x671]

So at 40 years old, he's still significantly better at defense than one of the most desireable SSs in the league (Hanley). Got it.

No one has ever desired Hanley's glove. Like Jeter has been his whole career, he's someone you tolerate on D because the bat is special.


I get the feeling that Hanley might need to sign with an AL team. When he's been healthy with the Dodgers, he has been an amazing hitter. That said, he isn't a very good SS.
 
2014-07-15 03:14:06 PM

FriarReb98: I find it funny that pretend AJ is still a Red Sox in the commercial.  And that he doesn't acknowledge Jeter.



Surprised nobody else has said that.

Plus the fact that the catcher is different in the end, and the play is in the old Yankee Stadium.


/subby
 
2014-07-15 03:14:13 PM

ladodger34: neon_god: aintnuttintofarkwith: bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

[img.fark.net image 758x671]

So at 40 years old, he's still significantly better at defense than one of the most desireable SSs in the league (Hanley). Got it.

No one has ever desired Hanley's glove. Like Jeter has been his whole career, he's someone you tolerate on D because the bat is special.

I get the feeling that Hanley might need to sign with an AL team. When he's been healthy with the Dodgers, he has been an amazing hitter. That said, he isn't a very good SS.


Might be. He can hit easily well enough to DH, and you wouldn't miss his glove. If it kept him on the field even 140 nights a year, he'd be a very valuable player
 
2014-07-15 03:21:29 PM
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2014-07-15 03:35:50 PM

nmrsnr: bdub77: They need to make one for A Rod.

But nobody wants to see a minute long spot of people spitting.


Just spent twenty minutes searching for the spitting clip from Naked Gun. I hope you're satisfied.
 
2014-07-15 04:08:05 PM
If this were the honest version, then John Lester would be in pinstripes for NYY in the clip. It's gonna happen soon, sadly.
 
2014-07-15 05:40:15 PM

bubbaprog: Gecko Gingrich: And a better than average short stop.

lolno

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I'm pretty sure DWAR is made up out of thin air. I forgot what team I was looking up, but they had the third-best team fielding percentage in baseball and a negative DWAR. And the aggregate defensive ranking for several positions leaguewide, including all outfield positions combined, was somehow below average.

So where are all these Brooks-Robinsonesque replacement players? It's not like the minor leagues are known for defensive prowess. Are they all in Japan or South Korea or something?
 
2014-07-15 05:52:49 PM

The Bestest: I'm one of the biggest Jeter fans there is, but FPCT has some pretty significant inadequacies, namely it doesn't really take range into account, which just happens to be the biggest defensive criticism of Jeter.



Came here to say that.  And I am one of the biggest Jeter fans out there.  Still one of the best of all time, for sure first rounder, and one of the few farm grown Yankees.  And he stayed with them for his entire career.  I have a lot of respect for him.


All of that being said, not sure he is All Star caliber this year.  At the same time, I'm not sure I would retire after the year he is having either.  Shows he can still play and that he is still better than most.
 
2014-07-15 05:53:29 PM
Actually, I meant that I am one of the biggest Jeter HATERS out there.
 
2014-07-15 07:06:03 PM
This thread makes me want to cry. I think fark finally killed stats.
 
2014-07-15 07:43:30 PM
Jetter love fest has started in the pre game broadcast.
 
2014-07-15 07:50:58 PM

Hoopy Frood: I'm pretty sure DWAR is made up out of thin air. I forgot what team I was looking up, but they had the third-best team fielding percentage in baseball and a negative DWAR.


This can happen is a team has good hands and terrible range, positioning, and throwing arms.

If a weak-armed shortstop cleanly fields a ball to his right but can't make a strong enough throw to get the runner... it's a single.  No error is charged.  But a better defensive shortstop would have made that play.

If a slow shortstop (we'll use a made-up name, Jerrick Deeter) dives to his left and the ball rolls two feet past the tip of his glove.... it's a single.  No error is charged.  But a better defensive shortstop would have picked the ball up on the run and made that play.

If a slow center fielder is playing too shallow and a fliner drops in over his head, that's an extra base hit.  No error is charged.  But a better defensive center fielder would have either positioned himself better, gotten a better jump, or just run the ball down and made the play.

Fielding percentage is nearly worthless because of factors like this.  Andrelton Simmons is in the middle of the pack in terms of errors this year, and he might be the best defensive shortstop of his generation.  Ozzie Smith was top-5 in errors four times, and he's likely the greatest defender to ever play baseball.
 
2014-07-15 07:58:58 PM

Gecko Gingrich: He's batting a very respectable .272 this year. That puts his 35th overall and 6th amongst short stops in the American League. Hits, he's 30th and 5th, respectively. RBI's, 100th and 5th.


.272 with zero power, and he doesn't draw walks like he used to.  He was a poor defender in his younger days, and now he's just awful.  Overall, he's very slightly better than a random AAA call-up (+0.5 WAR, and we're about 60% of the way through the season.)

Derek Jeter will suit up every night because he's one of the most popular players in baseball history, and the fans want to see him play until the day he retires.  It doesn't hurt that the Yankees' depleted farm system can't supply anyone to take his place.  But don't fool yourself into thinking that the 2014 version of Derek Jeter is a highly valuable player.
 
2014-07-15 08:22:06 PM
Jeter's Fielding Percentage today is still 1.000%. He's so good at defense!
 
2014-07-15 10:46:25 PM

chimp_ninja: Fielding percentage is nearly worthless because of factors like this.


For more proof, look at the "normal" stats on the Phillies outfield this year.

Then compare it to video of Dom Brown and Ben Revere playing defense.
 
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