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2014-07-15 11:17:24 AM  
Was he that white guy they hired last year?
 
2014-07-15 11:28:28 AM  
It's funny how occasionally SNL will hire people as writers or performers then basically ignore them.  Even Larry David, when he was a writer for SNL, only got one sketch on air, in the 12:50 death slot.
 
2014-07-15 12:06:46 PM  
If a throwaway gag during a skit is about how no one knows you're on SNL, there's a really good chance you won't be coming back for the next season.
 
2014-07-15 01:05:03 PM  
I wonder if he'll rejoin the Probably Science podcast.
 
2014-07-15 01:05:16 PM  
Everyone knows to be successful on SNL, you need a catchphrase. Even the "dip my balls in it" guy knew that.
 
2014-07-15 01:07:37 PM  
From the little I saw of him, he always seemed to be trying too hard, and failing (though from what I've read, it's pretty cutthroat there).
 
2014-07-15 01:12:54 PM  
Can't wait for the new season.  the show has kinda gotten better. last season was kinda shakey, the first after losing Hader, Wiig, and I think Samberg (who i never really liked).

everyone loves the "adult baby" sketch but i think it is stupid.
 
2014-07-15 01:13:26 PM  
Surely SNL must take the best available people. Why do many skits fall flat? Even the writes-itself Rob Ford opening was a miss. I guess they're more worried about Average American feeling dumb about not understanding a joke than they are with actual humor.
 
2014-07-15 01:41:53 PM  
He was one of the one or two actually memorable guys from the white legion they hired last summer.
 
2014-07-15 01:42:57 PM  

jake_lex: It's funny how occasionally SNL will hire people as writers or performers then basically ignore them.  Even Larry David, when he was a writer for SNL, only got one sketch on air, in the 12:50 death slot.


It is a weird system and they've occassionally had great performers/writers flunk out (ie Sarah Silverman).   But those who do survive tend to be extremely driven and some have said that they graduate the SNL system with a confidence that they could survive anything in Hollywood.   It's probably why so many have gone on to produce and create their own content.
 
2014-07-15 01:46:34 PM  
As long as they keep the Good Neighbors guys I'm happy. I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.
 
2014-07-15 01:49:34 PM  

beakerxf: But those who do survive tend to be extremely driven and some have said that they graduate the SNL system with a confidence that they could survive anything in Hollywood.



that's what Jay Mohr says; he didn't really fit in at the time but knowing he did it, period, he had that confidence.  of course now he's on AM sports talk radio, but stilll.....

I listen to a lot of podcasts and it is always tremendously interesting to hear a former cast member talk about their experience.  Jim Breuer was on Marc Maron or perhaps Jay Mohr, and he said it was very clique-y, that a cadre of writers kinda blackballed him so his last year or whatever was very negative.  Maron almost got on in the mid 90s but was passed over because Lorne felt he would probably cause problems with the cast (which Maron will say was probably true, as he was in the midst of a drug problem he eventually got on top of.).  just days ago I caught Kevin Nealon on a Johnny Carson-themed podcast, and he talks at length about his SNL days.

being a huge comedy dork i love SNL and can't wait for its return.
 
2014-07-15 01:52:11 PM  

jake_lex: It's funny how occasionally SNL will hire people as writers or performers then basically ignore them.  Even Larry David, when he was a writer for SNL, only got one sketch on air, in the 12:50 death slot.


The writers compete to get their stuff on the air. It doesn't mean he was purposely ignored. It means they liked the material from the other writers better.

It's sort of a gladiatorial merit system.
 
2014-07-15 01:53:48 PM  

Msol: I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.


This.

I could also do without Kenan Thompson. I have already seen his one character enough times.
 
2014-07-15 02:01:46 PM  

Msol: As long as they keep the Good Neighbors guys I'm happy. I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.



Lorne likes archetypes / formulas.  there's always a chubby person.  belushi, farley, sainz, bryant, and you could say Whats Up With That was a twofer; he filled the Black Guy and Chubby Person role.  The Smart/Acerbic person:  Chevy, Miller, Spade, A Whitney Brown, Quinn, McDonald, etc., who usually gets the WU slot.  there's fairly defined roles on the show (or in her case, "rolls", AMIRITE?)

I think Jane Curtin quipped of her role, "Lorne, being Jewish, loves WASPs, that's how i got on."
 
2014-07-15 02:07:57 PM  

SpectroBoy: It's sort of a gladiatorial merit system.



Yeah, i remember Breuer saying that I think Adam McKay (who went on to write tons of movies with Sandler and Ferrell) developed a dislike for him, and he was coming up with sketches other writers and performers loved but I guess McKay's little cadre blackballed him.  he was like, "they had the power, somehow, to freeze me out.  they were putting garbage sketches on at dress and the show that were comedy death, and my stuff couldn't even get to dress."  Breuer said it was cutthroat but made his stay very unpleasant.
 
2014-07-15 02:26:37 PM  
Please let it be Kyle Mooney and his awful, awful shorts ... please let it be Kyle Mooney ...

Dammit.

Also, who?

/Watches SNL religiously
 
2014-07-15 02:28:23 PM  

luidprand: Please let it be Kyle Mooney and his awful, awful shorts ... please let it be Kyle Mooney ...



i really like him.  the last short (that i remember, at least) of him being the sad sack next door to Vanessa Bayer, constantly unable to seal the deal, i thought that was absolutely brilliant.

and his weird "running for high school president" videos, those are awesome.
 
2014-07-15 02:29:36 PM  
Now which one is "SNL"?
 
2014-07-15 02:31:57 PM  

rickythepenguin: luidprand: Please let it be Kyle Mooney and his awful, awful shorts ... please let it be Kyle Mooney ...


i really like him.  the last short (that i remember, at least) of him being the sad sack next door to Vanessa Bayer, constantly unable to seal the deal, i thought that was absolutely brilliant.

and his weird "running for high school president" videos, those are awesome.


Awkward humor and cringe comedy never does it for me. The one with Miley was funny, because it wasn't rooted around him being a sad sack, but just a guy who liked to tell his buddies too much and got screwed in the process.

The rest of them feel unfinished and underwritten.
 
2014-07-15 02:34:16 PM  

rickythepenguin: Breuer said it was cutthroat but made his stay very unpleasant.


kevin smith has a podcast interview with jon lovits, abcs of snl, which pretty much confirms this. the podcast was interesting (if you can get past the repetition and self fellating, lovits repeats himself and stutters alot).

key take aways were:
-al franken described lovits as "everything they didn't want"
-lovits was the one that recommended phil hartman for snl (hartman was lovits' mentor in an improv group, there's an interest story about hartman during the improv days).
-damon wayans went offscript on a live sketch and was fired
-the auditions are grueling, after you perform your prepared stuff, they'll ask to see what you're working on, they they'll ask you to make stuff up on the spot (chris rock was at the same audition and thought he severely bombed).
-if loren asks for an extra year or more, its best to give it to him. he values loyalty alot and you'll have his support for whatever you do. don't and you're pretty much dead to him.
 
2014-07-15 02:41:10 PM  

Msol: As long as they keep the Good Neighbors guys I'm happy. I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.


i can't think of who the "good neighbors guys" are...i watch snl all the time, but i'm drawing a blank on that one.

aidy, i COMPLETELY agree with you! she's a one joke wonder, and it's not even a good joke (confused/frustrated about everything going on around her while she's being intentionally left out), yet i have seen/heard so many people talk about how much they think she's one of the best cast members

rickythepenguin: Msol: As long as they keep the Good Neighbors guys I'm happy. I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.


Lorne likes archetypes / formulas.  there's always a chubby person.  belushi, farley, sainz, bryant, and you could say Whats Up With That was a twofer; he filled the Black Guy and Chubby Person role.  The Smart/Acerbic person:  Chevy, Miller, Spade, A Whitney Brown, Quinn, McDonald, etc., who usually gets the WU slot.  there's fairly defined roles on the show (or in her case, "rolls", AMIRITE?)

I think Jane Curtin quipped of her role, "Lorne, being Jewish, loves WASPs, that's how i got on."


belushi, farley, and all the other fat folks that have been "the fat one" on the show all at least had some variation in their characters/skits...aidy, as i said, does THE VERY SAME THING in every skit she's in
 
2014-07-15 02:50:33 PM  
Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic
 
2014-07-15 02:55:13 PM  

rickythepenguin: beakerxf: But those who do survive tend to be extremely driven and some have said that they graduate the SNL system with a confidence that they could survive anything in Hollywood.


that's what Jay Mohr says; he didn't really fit in at the time but knowing he did it, period, he had that confidence.  of course now he's on AM sports talk radio, but stilll.....

I listen to a lot of podcasts and it is always tremendously interesting to hear a former cast member talk about their experience.  Jim Breuer was on Marc Maron or perhaps Jay Mohr, and he said it was very clique-y, that a cadre of writers kinda blackballed him so his last year or whatever was very negative.  Maron almost got on in the mid 90s but was passed over because Lorne felt he would probably cause problems with the cast (which Maron will say was probably true, as he was in the midst of a drug problem he eventually got on top of.).  just days ago I caught Kevin Nealon on a Johnny Carson-themed podcast, and he talks at length about his SNL days.

being a huge comedy dork i love SNL and can't wait for its return.


I do the same. I just downloaded a bunch of Nerdist podcasts and listened to all the SNL interviews first.

/the Jon Lovitz interview was my favorite.
 
2014-07-15 02:55:41 PM  

not5am: rickythepenguin: Breuer said it was cutthroat but made his stay very unpleasant.

kevin smith has a podcast interview with jon lovits, abcs of snl, which pretty much confirms this. the podcast was interesting (if you can get past the repetition and self fellating, lovits repeats himself and stutters alot).

key take aways were:
-al franken described lovits as "everything they didn't want"
-lovits was the one that recommended phil hartman for snl (hartman was lovits' mentor in an improv group, there's an interest story about hartman during the improv days). see my comments on your auditions comment
-damon wayans went offscript on a live sketch and was fired this, going off script, is a HUGE no-no that is well known by fans of snl, and i would imagine it's well known by the talent, especially someone like wayans
-the auditions are grueling, after you perform your prepared stuff, they'll ask to see what you're working on, they they'll ask you to make stuff up on the spot (chris rock was at the same audition and thought he severely bombed). on hartman's snl best of dvd, as with most of those best of dvds, there is an option to watch the audition...in phil's, when he's asked to do more stuff, he has lovitz come over and do scenes with him...great stuff! i hear/read stuff about lovitz as a person not being pleasant...but, i'm not hanging out with the guy, so i don't really care...he and phil were both really good for snl...phil, i feel, was much better, especially post-snl, but lovitz had some great moments on snl
-if loren asks for an extra year or more, its best to give it to him. he values loyalty alot and you'll have his support for whatever you do. don't and you're pretty much dead to him. this is something i hear on any snl documentary or whenever people talk about the behind-the-scenes stuff

 
2014-07-15 02:59:55 PM  

not5am: the podcast was interesting (if you can get past the repetition and self fellating, lovits repeats himself and stutters alot).


huh, ill have to check that out.

another one you may like is last September (i just happen to know the month as i was on vacation) Robert Smigel was on ESPN's Bill Simmons podcast.  Fantastic behind-the-scenes SNL info.  i seem to recall Smigel hinting that either he or Dana Carvey did the Lorne Michaels impression that Mike Myers ended up stealing for Dr. Evil.   Lots of good anecdotes in that interview.

the Kevin Nealon "Johnny Carson" podcast, he said he and carvey had written a "Hanz and Franz" screenplay that Arnold Schwarzenegger had agreed to, and then one of his movies tanked and he backed out.  But he said they were all set to film it.  *shrug*

zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic


and she was hot!
 
2014-07-15 03:01:35 PM  

zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic


she was better than aidy, for sure

sort of rare for me, but the majority of my favorite current snl cast are women...that probably happens about 1 or 2 seasons out of 10, if that often. i mean, there are usually women on the show i like, but i LOVE bayer, strong, pedrad (hasn't she left?), and mckinnon...there are only a couple of standouts among the guys, and i can't think of their names

and all 4 of those women i named...HOT! and i may not be of the popular opinion here, but my favorite of those 4 is bayer...mmm mmm mmmmm i love that woman!
 
2014-07-15 03:06:26 PM  

bungle_jr: damon wayans went offscript on a live sketch and was fired this, going off script, is a HUGE no-no that is well known by fans of snl, and i would imagine it's well known by the talent, especially someone like wayans


yeah, the story i've read/heard is that after a few weeks of getting no real sketch time other than Bystander #3, One Line Johnny roles, he was given a "lead" role in a sketch where he was the police officer interrogating a suspect.  For reasons only he knows, but were later perceived as him expressing his dissatisfaction with his underuse, he playd the role as written on the cards but in an extremely campy / super exaggerated, flamboyantly gay affect, which made no sense in the sketch.  Lorne was pissed and i thiiiiiiiiiiiiink he didn't even let him take the stage for the final bow.

he didn't literally go offscript, but by playign the role so "gay" he still did something that tanked the sketch.  wonder if it is on Youtube.


Jay Mohr cops to him stealing a comedy bit from some working NYC comic that made air, something like an Irish bartender heckling the patrons or some shiat.  NBC settled the dispute by I think paying the comic and Mohr says to this day, that sketch is unavailable on the "best of" compilations.
 
2014-07-15 03:29:59 PM  
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2014-07-15 03:33:30 PM  

Sybarite: [38.media.tumblr.com image 640x401]


didn't sasheer come on mid-season?

and mike o'brien is weird looking and seems to have a decent amount of talent...should have a little more screen time
 
2014-07-15 03:35:50 PM  

rickythepenguin: bungle_jr: damon wayans went offscript on a live sketch and was fired this, going off script, is a HUGE no-no that is well known by fans of snl, and i would imagine it's well known by the talent, especially someone like wayans

yeah, the story i've read/heard is that after a few weeks of getting no real sketch time other than Bystander #3, One Line Johnny roles, he was given a "lead" role in a sketch where he was the police officer interrogating a suspect.  For reasons only he knows, but were later perceived as him expressing his dissatisfaction with his underuse, he playd the role as written on the cards but in an extremely campy / super exaggerated, flamboyantly gay affect, which made no sense in the sketch.  Lorne was pissed and i thiiiiiiiiiiiiink he didn't even let him take the stage for the final bow.

he didn't literally go offscript, but by playign the role so "gay" he still did something that tanked the sketch.  wonder if it is on Youtube.


Jay Mohr cops to him stealing a comedy bit from some working NYC comic that made air, something like an Irish bartender heckling the patrons or some shiat.  NBC settled the dispute by I think paying the comic and Mohr says to this day, that sketch is unavailable on the "best of" compilations.


Ahhh, so that's where Tracy Morgan got that.
 
2014-07-15 03:36:52 PM  

zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic


That's considerably longer than I'd last with Casey Wilson.

www.post-gazette.com
 
2014-07-15 03:53:23 PM  
bungle_jr:

-this was before wayans was got his break with in living color. wayans wanted to play the character as a gay man, but loren told him not to but wayans did it anyway and was fired the next day.

-from lovits story, hartman was a nice guy. he was basically the big brother to everyone in the improv group and was the only successful one (he owned a house and had a family, wasn't living pay check to pay check).

-last bit, lovits was the top talent on the cast for a while, after his first year, loren got rid of the entire cast but lovits.
 
2014-07-15 03:57:19 PM  

bungle_jr: zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic

she was better than aidy, for sure

sort of rare for me, but the majority of my favorite current snl cast are women...that probably happens about 1 or 2 seasons out of 10, if that often. i mean, there are usually women on the show i like, but i LOVE bayer, strong, pedrad (hasn't she left?), and mckinnon...there are only a couple of standouts among the guys, and i can't think of their names

and all 4 of those women i named...HOT! and i may not be of the popular opinion here, but my favorite of those 4 is bayer...mmm mmm mmmmm i love that woman!



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2014-07-15 04:08:05 PM  

Sybarite: bungle_jr: zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic

she was better than aidy, for sure

sort of rare for me, but the majority of my favorite current snl cast are women...that probably happens about 1 or 2 seasons out of 10, if that often. i mean, there are usually women on the show i like, but i LOVE bayer, strong, pedrad (hasn't she left?), and mckinnon...there are only a couple of standouts among the guys, and i can't think of their names

and all 4 of those women i named...HOT! and i may not be of the popular opinion here, but my favorite of those 4 is bayer...mmm mmm mmmmm i love that woman!


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nice
 
2014-07-15 04:35:28 PM  

not5am: bungle_jr:

-this was before wayans was got his break with in living color. wayans wanted to play the character as a gay man, but loren told him not to but wayans did it anyway and was fired the next day.

-from lovits story, hartman was a nice guy. he was basically the big brother to everyone in the improv group and was the only successful one (he owned a house and had a family, wasn't living pay check to pay check).

-last bit, lovits was the top talent on the cast for a while, after his first year, loren got rid of the entire cast but lovits.


LORNE Michaels

Jon LOVITZ

FYI.
 
2014-07-15 04:37:15 PM  

jedzz: not5am: bungle_jr:

-this was before wayans was got his break with in living color. wayans wanted to play the character as a gay man, but loren told him not to but wayans did it anyway and was fired the next day.

-from lovits story, hartman was a nice guy. he was basically the big brother to everyone in the improv group and was the only successful one (he owned a house and had a family, wasn't living pay check to pay check).

-last bit, lovits was the top talent on the cast for a while, after his first year, loren got rid of the entire cast but lovits.

LORNE Michaels

Jon LOVITZ

FYI.


yeah, that's the ticket
 
2014-07-15 04:57:35 PM  

SpectroBoy: Msol: I wish they'd can Aidy Bryant though. I *really* don't get her appeal.

This.

I could also do without Kenan Thompson. I have already seen his one character enough times.


What's up with that?!?
 
2014-07-15 05:13:14 PM  

TheraTx: What's up with that?!?



huh.....i think you used to be a regular....didn't we trade music once?

ooooooooooh, weeeeeeeee
what up with that?  what up with that?
ooohhhhhhweeeee
one time i went to he grocery store and tried to buy some milk and i boughtt hte milk and when i came home to drink it it was all crazy sour and gave me really bad gas and i did not know it had already expired when i bought it and i had the trots for 7 days-uhhhhhhhhhhhh what is up....what is up.....what is up with that *dabs sweat from brow*
 
2014-07-15 05:17:47 PM  

bungle_jr: zarberg: Casey Wilson lasted only a year and I thought she was fantastic

she was better than aidy, for sure

sort of rare for me, but the majority of my favorite current snl cast are women...that probably happens about 1 or 2 seasons out of 10, if that often. i mean, there are usually women on the show i like, but i LOVE bayer, strong, pedrad (hasn't she left?), and mckinnon...there are only a couple of standouts among the guys, and i can't think of their names

and all 4 of those women i named...HOT! and i may not be of the popular opinion here, but my favorite of those 4 is bayer...mmm mmm mmmmm i love that woman!


They could get rid of the entire male cast (and Noel Wells) and the show would probably improve.

/Female Kids in the Hall, and they already have a hot gay one!
 
2014-07-15 06:39:58 PM  

luidprand: They could get rid of the entire male cast (and Noel Wells) and the show would probably improve.


That part of your wish has been granted.

'Saturday Night Live': Noel Wells and John Milhiser are also out
 
2014-07-15 07:17:46 PM  
Remember the black chick they hired to head off criticism mid-year?  First, it's bs that they got away with that so easily.  Second, they have all summer to find a black chick who is funny so why don't they?
 
2014-07-15 07:29:14 PM  
What's going to end up killing SNL is that they now need the writing talent more than the talent needs them. They're not the only game in town anymore.

And they've lost their bread and butter: the Daily Show and The Colbert Report have completely eliminated SNL's ability to do relevant & topical political humor. Big story on Wednesday? TDS will do it by Thursday, and if I miss it, I can catch it online on Friday. By 10:30pm on Saturday, the news cycle has refreshed, and SNL is late to the party.
 
2014-07-15 07:49:15 PM  

bungle_jr: my favorite of those 4 is bayer...mmm mmm mmmmm i love that woman!


To aid your fantasy (Bayer's dating ad from before she was on SNL): Link
/she thinks it's hot when guys can cook . . .
 
2014-07-15 07:55:56 PM  
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2014-07-15 08:20:15 PM  

fusillade762: luidprand: They could get rid of the entire male cast (and Noel Wells) and the show would probably improve.

That part of your wish has been granted.

'Saturday Night Live': Noel Wells and John Milhiser are also out


Damn, too bad...Noel was a cutie
 
2014-07-15 09:54:10 PM  
SNL has not been funny for at least 20 years. It should be canceled.
 
2014-07-15 10:12:08 PM  
Is Abbey Elliot still on the show? I remember her being able to do a spot-on Drew Barrymoore.
 
2014-07-16 12:07:23 AM  
Bring back Ellen Cleghorne.
 
2014-07-16 12:41:15 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Bring back Ellen Cleghorne.

Jane Curtin
 
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