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(Games Industry International)   Microsoft prepares for round of massive layoffs now that XBox 360 isn't something they have to support or develop new software for   (gamesindustry.biz ) divider line
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2014-07-15 12:22:51 PM  
Actually, they've said quite the opposite of their last-gen console, they wish to continue supporting it. Also, this headline assumes that the Xbox One doesn't exist.

/both big-boy consoles of the new gen were rushed
 
2014-07-15 01:55:57 PM  
What I got from the article is apparently the CEO has a confusing core.
 
2014-07-15 02:00:12 PM  
So the will stop lobbying for H1-b visas?
 
2014-07-15 02:08:06 PM  
 
2014-07-15 02:11:37 PM  

mcreadyblue: So the will stop lobbying for H1-b visas?


That's not how it works. You layoff full-time permanent positions, tweek the job descriptions, and then hire back contractors.
 
2014-07-15 03:38:54 PM  
Thought I wouldn't be here to see the day when Microsoft wouldn't be dominant like they once were. And that leaked update of the next MS OS shows a shiatty desktop. They really are not going to ease up on Metro.
 
2014-07-15 03:43:35 PM  
Xbox, not XBox.
 
2014-07-15 03:55:54 PM  
When you buy a company with 30k employees - at some point - a good chunk of those will have to go.

/this has nothing to do with gaming so I haven't a clue why everyone is biatching about the xbox
 
2014-07-15 03:57:01 PM  

Saborlas: /both big-boy consoles of the new gen were rushed


So much this. When I was employed by Microsoft I got to see the awesome demo of the machine at the annual company meeting and it was really cool and I bought one early. Now I pretty much regret it, it's mainly a voice controlled Roku box and if I actually want to play a game I turn on my 360, PS3, or Windows PC. I check the major game sites and there are literally no interesting games being made for either the Xbox One or PS4 for at least the next year.
 
2014-07-15 03:57:51 PM  
they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away
 
2014-07-15 04:05:57 PM  

sprawl15: they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away


Um....
 
2014-07-15 04:12:51 PM  
I think the layoffs have more to do with them noticing that only 14% of computing devices run their OS in the post PC era.
 
2014-07-15 04:20:10 PM  
Because of course there's no way they could find something else for those employees to do.
 
2014-07-15 04:34:04 PM  
 
2014-07-15 04:39:30 PM  

Tyrone Biggums: sprawl15: they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away

Um....


They could be walking away like a smooth criminal.
 
2014-07-15 04:59:02 PM  

rwdavis: I check the major game sites and there are literally no interesting games being made for either the Xbox One or PS4 for at least the next year.

Watch Dogs was a pretty good game. Sounds like they've shipped some 8-million copies so far, meaning its made about $400 million. I've played the beta of Titanfall and enjoyed it. I'll probably pick that one up when I see it for ~$29.

I'm hesitantly hopeful that Tom Clancy's "The Division" won't be delayed again and will launch in early 2015, because if it delivers a post-apocalyptic RPG in the guise of a first-person shooter, I'll be very happy. "Alien: Isolation" looks promising, but I don't know about replay-ability. I've also enjoyed most of the "Dragon Age" games, so I'm looking forward to Inquisition in October. And although I have it for the 360, I'm sure I'll pick up GTA V for the One. I'm on the fence about "Destiny" - so I'll probably wait until the reviews come out.

Other XBone notables in the next 12 months:
-Dying Light
-Mad Max
-Sunset Overdrive
-Project Spark (no idea if it'll be cool, or suck)
-Dance Central Spotlight (yeah, I'm that guy who likes Kinect dancing games)
 
2014-07-15 05:07:55 PM  

sprawl15: they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away


so they were walking away already?
 
2014-07-15 05:19:47 PM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: Other sites are reporting that "The reductions will probably be in engineering, marketing and areas of overlap with Nokia..."

Which kind of makes sense.


Yep. Less worried about this than I would be, normally. The real fun is realizing that there will be a bit of fun trying to get a gig in the Puget Sound area for the next few months. (Glad I was hired a week or so ago at a sweet gig...)
 
2014-07-15 05:20:08 PM  

MrSteve007: rwdavis: I check the major game sites and there are literally no interesting games being made for either the Xbox One or PS4 for at least the next year.

Watch Dogs (not an exclusive) was a pretty good game. Sounds like they've shipped some 8-million copies so far, meaning its made about $400 million. I've played the beta of Titanfall (not an exclusive) and enjoyed it. I'll probably pick that one up when I see it for ~$29.

I'm hesitantly hopeful that Tom Clancy's "The Division"   (not an exclusive)won't be delayed again and will launch in early 2015, because if it delivers a post-apocalyptic RPG in the guise of a first-person shooter, I'll be very happy. "Alien: Isolation" (not an exclusive) looks promising, but I don't know about replay-ability. I've also enjoyed most of the "Dragon Age" games, so I'm looking forward to Inquisition (not an exclusive) in October. And although I have it for the 360, I'm sure I'll pick up GTA V for the One. I'm on the fence about "Destiny" (not an exclusive) - so I'll probably wait until the reviews come out.

Other XBone notables in the next 12 months:
-Dying Light  (not an exclusive)
-Mad Max  (not an exclusive)
-Sunset Overdrive  (hey, you got one exclusive)
-Project Spark (no idea if it'll be cool, or suck)   (not an exclusive)
-Dance Central Spotlight (yeah, I'm that guy who likes Kinect dancing games)  (not an exclusive)



I'm with  rwdavis on this one. I even own an Xbox One already, and I enjoy it for Titanfall and voice controls on TV, but there's really no reason to own one right now or for the foreseeable future. Damn near everything on the upcoming release calendar is still coming out for the old generation as well, or for PC. I easily could have held off for a year or more on buying one and not missed anything. The PS4 and Xbox One have both had a surprising lack of "gotta have it" games to date.
 
2014-07-15 05:53:51 PM  

Crudbucket: The PS4 and Xbox One have both had a surprising lack of "gotta have it" games to date.

Considering the PS4, XBone and PC all share the *exact* same architecture, there might be a few "exclusive" titles for a few months after launch, but it makes no sense for developers to limit themselves to one platform.

When it comes to "next" gen consoles, I think the idea of an "exclusive" will be largely dead. The only exception will be games developed by Microsoft's studios - and even then, they'll probably be on both Xbone and PC.
 
2014-07-15 05:56:59 PM  
Oh, and Dance Central Spotlight is an XBone exclusive, simply because it's the only one with the gen 2 Kinect.
 
2014-07-15 06:15:37 PM  

Crudbucket: MrSteve007: rwdavis: I check the major game sites and there are literally no interesting games being made for either the Xbox One or PS4 for at least the next year.

Watch Dogs (not an exclusive) was a pretty good game. Sounds like they've shipped some 8-million copies so far, meaning its made about $400 million. I've played the beta of Titanfall (not an exclusive) and enjoyed it. I'll probably pick that one up when I see it for ~$29.

I'm hesitantly hopeful that Tom Clancy's "The Division"   (not an exclusive)won't be delayed again and will launch in early 2015, because if it delivers a post-apocalyptic RPG in the guise of a first-person shooter, I'll be very happy. "Alien: Isolation" (not an exclusive) looks promising, but I don't know about replay-ability. I've also enjoyed most of the "Dragon Age" games, so I'm looking forward to Inquisition (not an exclusive) in October. And although I have it for the 360, I'm sure I'll pick up GTA V for the One. I'm on the fence about "Destiny" (not an exclusive) - so I'll probably wait until the reviews come out.

Other XBone notables in the next 12 months:
-Dying Light  (not an exclusive)
-Mad Max  (not an exclusive)
-Sunset Overdrive  (hey, you got one exclusive)
-Project Spark (no idea if it'll be cool, or suck)   (not an exclusive)
-Dance Central Spotlight (yeah, I'm that guy who likes Kinect dancing games)  (not an exclusive)


I'm with  rwdavis on this one. I even own an Xbox One already, and I enjoy it for Titanfall and voice controls on TV, but there's really no reason to own one right now or for the foreseeable future. Damn near everything on the upcoming release calendar is still coming out for the old generation as well, or for PC. I easily could have held off for a year or more on buying one and not missed anything. The PS4 and Xbox One have both had a surprising lack of "gotta have it" games to date.


Yeah, pretty much the only game I'm anticipating at the moment for my Xbox One is the next Dragon Age. I'm a little interested in Titanfall but that'll have to wait until I upgrade my PC to handle it, no way I'm going to waste my money buying an FPS for consoles.

Open worlds are mostly miss for me with the rare hit for me; Watch Dogs looks more like a game I'd want to watch my roommate play than I'd want to play myself. Project Spark I was incredibly "meh" on when I played the beta. I mostly like RPGs, JRPGs, turn-based strategy/tactical games and adventure game.
 
2014-07-15 06:48:49 PM  
Box next gen consoles are suffering a sort of drought right now, the xb1 more so then the ps4.  This tends to happen at the start of every gen though.  Takes the devs a bit of time to get the games out.

It's worse for the Japanese market though, crap all for the consoles there so far.  They went mobile so hard last gen that it seems the dev base for consoles is a fraction of what it was last gen.
 
2014-07-15 07:09:38 PM  

IrateShadow: Not that surprising, considering the memo that went out last week about how the company's shifting its core direction.


dialogue

core focus

synthesize

Someone has been surfing the Management BS generator
 
2014-07-15 10:51:43 PM  

Saborlas: /both big-boy consoles of the new gen were rushed


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If it ain't blackberry its a farkin toy.
 
2014-07-16 04:38:31 AM  

Saborlas: /both big-boy consoles of the new gen were rushed


Which is impressive, since it was 5 years between the original Xbox and the 360, and 8 years between the 360 and Xbox One (still a dumb name). Equally, 5 years between PSX/PS1 and the PS2, 6 years between the PS2 and PS3, and 7 years between the PS3 and PS4.

The PS3/Xbox 360 generation had already been going on for a long time. It's a little weird that both the big new gen consoles do seem to have been so rushed.
 
2014-07-16 06:14:22 AM  

Saborlas: Actually, they've said quite the opposite of their last-gen console, they wish to continue supporting it. Also, this headline assumes that the Xbox One doesn't exist.

/both big-boy consoles of the new gen were rushed


The thing is, it appears that Microsoft is acknowledging that they are not fundamentally wired to compete in the consumer space and will be pursuing business and prosumer devices and services. That would leave Xbox as the Apple TV of their product lineup in some ways. I could see a spin off into a closely held subsidiary with its own stock if that remains true.
 
2014-07-16 08:45:03 AM  

gnosis301: Tyrone Biggums: sprawl15: they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away

Um....

They could be walking away like a smooth criminal.


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2014-07-16 12:15:13 PM  

sprawl15: they call it the xbox 360 because they're going to tell their loyal employees to do a 360 and walk away


"180, you stupid spaghetti-slurping cretin! 180! If I did a 360, I'd go completely around and end up back where I started."
 
2014-07-16 03:43:19 PM  
Look, the guy mis-spoke, he's no angle.  Stop with the third degree.
 
2014-07-16 10:44:15 PM  
Thinking of my friends back at NERD in Boston...
 
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