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2014-07-15 01:22:18 PM  
Well I'll have the chicken then...
 
2014-07-15 01:51:18 PM  
Yes, I remember. I had the lasagna.
 
2014-07-15 01:52:00 PM  
It's The Bishop!
 
2014-07-15 01:54:02 PM  
Oh, you!

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2014-07-15 01:54:56 PM  

Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the church's spiritual leader, said before the vote that the public would find it "almost incomprehensible" if the church's General Synod did not approve the change.


I don't care what the General's name is. Tell him to get in there and approve the change.


You're lucky we're Church of England.
 
2014-07-15 01:55:11 PM  
Bishop to Queen's Rook 4.
 
2014-07-15 01:55:24 PM  
First thing they'll do is make the miter a more anatomically correct vagina-shape.
 
2014-07-15 01:55:56 PM  
I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.
 
2014-07-15 01:56:26 PM  

farkin_Gary: Bishop to Queen's Rook 4.


Everybody jump the queen.
 
2014-07-15 01:56:43 PM  
all these bible rules keep changing over time
 
2014-07-15 01:58:34 PM  

ltdanman44: all these bible rules keep changing over time


Yea, now we can't even keep slaves!!!  Even if they're from Canada or Mexico.

One thing is consistent tho:

Religion = Superstition + $$$$$
 
2014-07-15 01:59:32 PM  
I asked for the vegetarian...
 
2014-07-15 01:59:45 PM  
Big whoop. Our bishop is female and gay. Most of the Anglican Communion have had female bishops for a while. It is just England that has resisted. Now if/when the ABoC is a woman... THAT will be something.
 
2014-07-15 02:00:06 PM  

Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.


You really don't want to go there.
 
2014-07-15 02:00:25 PM  
Subby: Why are the female bishops in Oregon suddenly dying?
 
2014-07-15 02:01:23 PM  

farkin_Gary: You really don't want to go there.


God did.
 
2014-07-15 02:01:34 PM  

Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.


If dicks were brains, you might have a valid point.

You must let yours do all your thinking.
 
2014-07-15 02:02:23 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: I don't care what the General's name is. Tell him to get in there and approve the change.


Clearly hasn't been kneeling before Synod.
 
2014-07-15 02:02:46 PM  

dionysusaur: If dicks were brains, you might have a valid point.

You must let yours do all your thinking.


I am merely quoting the Word of God. The Bible is clear on the matter.
 
2014-07-15 02:03:49 PM  

Copper Spork: farkin_Gary: You really don't want to go there.

God did.


Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Love does not seek its own (way).
 
gja
2014-07-15 02:04:02 PM  

farkin_Gary: Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.

You really don't want to go there.


But they are allowed to get their lazy-no-good-underling-subservient-babby-making-barefoot asses inthe kitchen and makes us mens some sammiches.


/amidoinitrite?
 
2014-07-15 02:05:01 PM  

gja: But they are allowed to get their lazy-no-good-underling-subservient-babby-making-barefoot asses inthe kitchen and makes us mens some sammiches.


Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
 
2014-07-15 02:05:46 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: General Synod


Kneel?
www.i-mockery.com
 
gja
2014-07-15 02:06:38 PM  

Krustofsky: Englebert Slaptyback: General Synod

Kneel?
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And bob
 
2014-07-15 02:08:38 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the church's spiritual leader, said before the vote that the public would find it "almost incomprehensible" if the church's General Synod did not approve the change.


I don't care what the General's name is. Tell him to get in there and approve the change.


You're lucky we're Church of England.


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General Synod!
 
2014-07-15 02:08:46 PM  

farkin_Gary: Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.

You really don't want to go there.


He does, good luck keep her silent.
 
2014-07-15 02:15:44 PM  

whither_apophis: It's The Bishop!


How can you tell if a C of E Bishop is female?

/tattooed on the back of the neck
 
2014-07-15 02:17:04 PM  
gja:
But they are allowed to get their lazy-no-good-underling-subservient-babby-making-barefoot asses inthe kitchen and makes us mens some sammiches.


If I took that tack with my wife, I'd find myself stuck to the kitchen floor with a steak knife...and rightly so.
 
2014-07-15 02:17:21 PM  
Women are physically incapable of moving diagonally. It's science!
 
2014-07-15 02:31:28 PM  

CeroX: I asked for the vegetarian...


Ahhh, yes.

Here you go Mr Hitler.
 
2014-07-15 02:31:58 PM  

farkin_Gary: Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.

You really don't want to go there.


Why not?

That's what their silly little book says.  Really, here's the quote:

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Yep, right there.  That's what their "official" word of their imaginary god says.  And that's not in the old bit that they claim they can pretty much ignore except for the gay parts, but the newer bit that their jesus character supposedly told them was what they should do.

christianity, as designed by its originators, is misogynistic.

Don't modify it.  Ditch it.  god isn't real.  jesus isn't real either.  Misogyny isn't ok, but getting rid of misogyny isn't going to fix religion.  Getting rid of religion is.
 
2014-07-15 02:34:53 PM  
Further driving people apart is not "cool" subby. And let's be clear, homosexuals and women in the priesthood is no one's idea of a way to bring people to church on Sunday. It's no one's idea of how to keep anyone in the church.

It's cutesy narcissism and it will stop sooner or later.

I think clearly it's been a mistake to not have women in the priesthood all these many years but the motive here is clearly not to build anything. It's not to make anybody happier. It's just division for the sake of division.
 
2014-07-15 02:39:58 PM  

Copper Spork: dionysusaur: If dicks were brains, you might have a valid point.

You must let yours do all your thinking.

I am merely quoting the Word of God. The Bible is clear on the matter.


So you're not quoting the "word of god".  You're quoting the Bible, which is the word of man.  Written by man, translated by man, changed by man, enforced by man, and is only claimed to be the word of god by man.
 
2014-07-15 02:42:15 PM  

Khellendros: So you're not quoting the "word of god".  You're quoting the Bible, which is the word of man.  Written by man, translated by man, changed by man, enforced by man, and is only claimed to be the word of god by man.


And whose truth is the foundation of the Church of England.
 
2014-07-15 02:43:53 PM  
In other news, King Henry the Eight spinning in his grave will be used to power most of London.
 
2014-07-15 02:49:48 PM  

DarkVader: Yep, right there. That's what their "official" word of their imaginary god says. And that's not in the old bit that they claim they can pretty much ignore except for the gay parts, but the newer bit that their jesus character supposedly told them was what they should do.


It's what Paul said. And Paul was an ass. Even Christians who recognize him as a Saint and apostle don't take his word for the Word of God.
 
2014-07-15 02:50:02 PM  

Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.


Who are you? You sound like God.
 
2014-07-15 02:51:05 PM  

Copper Spork: Khellendros: So you're not quoting the "word of god".  You're quoting the Bible, which is the word of man.  Written by man, translated by man, changed by man, enforced by man, and is only claimed to be the word of god by man.

And whose truth is the foundation of the Church of England.


...which has been reinterpreted and altered every year, since its inception.  The Church of England has altered its doctrine hundreds of times.

And you're dodging - you claimed it was the "word of god".  It clearly isn't.  Zero evidence of any type. It is a book written, interpreted, translated, and transferred by man at every step.  And some men claim it is the word of god, but with no evidence at all.

You might as well say it's the "word of Khellendros".  No evidence it is, nor have I given any open authority to claim such.  Men can claim that, but that doesn't give any weight to its truth.
 
2014-07-15 02:54:10 PM  

NobleHam: DarkVader: Yep, right there. That's what their "official" word of their imaginary god says. And that's not in the old bit that they claim they can pretty much ignore except for the gay parts, but the newer bit that their jesus character supposedly told them was what they should do.

It's what Paul said. And Paul was an ass. Even Christians who recognize him as a Saint and apostle don't take his word for the Word of God.


Except the whole spreading the word of Christ to non-Jews stems a lot from Paul's teachings.
 
2014-07-15 02:54:38 PM  

Khellendros: And you're dodging - you claimed it was the "word of god". It clearly isn't. Zero evidence of any type. It is a book written, interpreted, translated, and transferred by man at every step. And some men claim it is the word of god, but with no evidence at all.


It's almost as if you're suggesting that the Church of England is somehow an illegitimate organisation created by the powerful to prey on the weak minded.
 
2014-07-15 02:55:38 PM  
What kind of cake was it?


/I seem to be the only one
 
2014-07-15 03:00:49 PM  

shtychkn: Copper Spork: I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to hold authority over a man. She must remain silent.

Who are you? You sound like God.


God's an asshole.  F*ck him.
 
2014-07-15 03:20:22 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: open homosexuals in the priesthood


What I should've said. Closet cases in the priesthood is nothing new, but being out makes a lot of people seriously unhappy.
 
gja
2014-07-15 04:11:56 PM  

farkin_Gary: gja:
But they are allowed to get their lazy-no-good-underling-subservient-babby-making-barefoot asses inthe kitchen and makes us mens some sammiches.


If I took that tack with my wife, I'd find myself stuck to the kitchen floor with a steak knife...and rightly so.


LOL. If I even REMOTELY took that tone with my beloved I would become a eunuch, possibly nullo.
 
2014-07-15 04:25:47 PM  
so...flogging the bishop...

ya or nay?
 
gja
2014-07-15 04:31:43 PM  

rockymountainrider: so...flogging the bishop...

ya or nay?


Oi?
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2014-07-15 04:57:27 PM  

Khellendros: Written by man, translated by man, changed by man, enforced by man, and is only claimed to be the word of god by man.


That part in particular: it's a letter from Paul, not even one of the original Apostles, and considerably more misogynist than anything Jesus said. He's a self-appointed interpreter of what Jesus said, and raised to canonical status by the decidedly human Church Fathers.

It's extremely dubious, even by their own standards, to cite Paul in exactly the same way as they would a Gospel. An awful lot of Christians don't even seem to draw the distinction, and that's just plain ignorant.

It's especially bad among some Protestant denominations: they took "sola scriptura" as a way to get out from under the self-serving Roman curia, but have since used it to shackle themselves to outdated and rather hateful interpretations. Usually with vigorous proof texting, cherry-picking quotes without even considering contradictory text (even when more authoritative). I'm glad that the CoE has a much more modern way of viewing the book.
 
2014-07-15 05:32:08 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Further driving people apart is not "cool" subby. And let's be clear, homosexuals and women in the priesthood is no one's idea of a way to bring people to church on Sunday. It's no one's idea of how to keep anyone in the church.


Well, it's clearly cool with the CofE.

Their attendance has plummeted in recent years.

If they don't stay relevant, they're gone.

It's cutesy narcissism and it will stop sooner or later.

I think clearly it's been a mistake to not have women in the priesthood all these many years but the motive here is clearly not to build anything. It's not to make anybody happier. It's just division for the sake of division.


It's funny that you could spin something that is inclusive as being something that is divisive.

As an aside, I was listening to Jeremy Vine's Radio 2 show on the day of the vote. And, he had two guests, both Christian, both women. One of whom argued that women are clearly inferior to men, as the Bible says so. The other argued that if misogynists continued to subdue women, the church will continue its slide into irrelevancy.

/Atheist, couldn't really give a shiat about what people who base their lives on 2000 year old texts think.
 
2014-07-15 05:41:50 PM  
Oh, and it's also worth noting that the head of the CofE is Queen Elizabeth.

Who is, reportedly, a woman.

/So long as you ignore Icke.
 
2014-07-15 06:17:52 PM  

ArkAngel: Well I'll have the chicken then...


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