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(Mother Jones)   Ever wonder why a conservative is a conservative, or why a liberal is a liberal? Inquiring scientific minds would like to know   (motherjones.com) divider line 79
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2014-07-15 11:12:46 AM  
Article conclusion: Being conservative was extremely useful during the Pleistocene epoch.

This is ironic considering that so many of them seem to believe the earth is 6000 years old.
 
2014-07-15 11:23:43 AM  
Conservatives are afraid of things.
duh
 
2014-07-15 11:44:46 AM  
You know, another word for this is Coward.
They certainly act like a bunch of cowards.
 
2014-07-15 01:15:29 PM  
A conservative is a conservative because new age black gay illegal Benghazi marijuana took their guns and aborted them.
 
2014-07-15 01:16:09 PM  
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-07-15 01:16:37 PM  
This has been done many times.  The conservative mindset is based mostly within the amygdala.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservat iv es-big-fear-brain-study-finds

That's from 2011.
 
2014-07-15 01:17:17 PM  

namatad: You know, another word for this is Coward.
They certainly act like a bunch of cowards.



As a hyper-liberal here:
A coward isn't a person who is afraid.
A coward is a person who won't face their fears and instead force others to do so for them.
 
2014-07-15 01:17:33 PM  
Empathy? I'd swear it's empathy...
 
2014-07-15 01:18:19 PM  
cognitive dissonance
 
2014-07-15 01:19:58 PM  
Liberals don't love their families enough to fight for them.
 
2014-07-15 01:20:49 PM  
Conservative or liberal, either way your singular life is a piss in the sand in the grand scale of the cosmos.
 
2014-07-15 01:21:10 PM  

namatad: Conservatives are afraid of things.
duh


This.

Also, they tend to lack empathy for others, knowledge of how the world works (especially in economics and science), and the ability to think about long term benefits for society as a whole; while being self-centered, hypocritical and entitled.
 
2014-07-15 01:21:25 PM  
Also: it's not a surprise that fear is a dominant force in decision making.  True rationality is a high standard which none of us live up to.  Once your brain hits that emotional short circuit evolution built for it, that's where thought ends, and rationalization begins.

And there's a reason why we call conservatives homophobes and xenophobes rather than just identifying the hate.  There's a palpable layer of irrational fear within the hate.  You can see it pretty easily.
 
2014-07-15 01:22:20 PM  
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2014-07-15 01:22:28 PM  

Cyrus the Mediocre: Conservative or liberal, either way your singular life is a piss in the sand in the grand scale of the cosmos.


SVR?
 
2014-07-15 01:23:22 PM  
their caveman brains never evolved so who is right about evolution now libs? ohh your precious science hoisted you by your own skinny jeans libtards, checkmate
 
2014-07-15 01:23:25 PM  

Chabash: Empathy? I'd swear it's empathy...


Empathy is a thing conservatives have, but it's limited to their in-groups, which is why you see them embracing tolerance more often when they have family who fit the standard bias.  Empathy is a higher function than fear, so it's the weaker short circuit.
 
2014-07-15 01:23:35 PM  
Junk science click-bait.
 
2014-07-15 01:24:07 PM  
According to Liberals, Conservatives are brain damaged.
According to Conservatives, Liberals lack brain function entirely.
 
2014-07-15 01:27:16 PM  
...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.
 
2014-07-15 01:27:38 PM  
Repeated exposure to stimuli generally mitigates the level of response over time, right, like with exposure therapy? It's like the corollary to fear of the unknown.

If that's the case, could the internet be creating a worldwide generational shift to the left by exposing young people to a vast array of (disturbing and otherwise) images, thus inoculating them against the negative reaction they might otherwise feel from limited exposure? Whether framed as increased empathy or decreased fear response is this even plausible or am I way off into pseudoscience?
 
2014-07-15 01:29:46 PM  

Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.


Except this is based on science.  The Conservative mindset is based mostly in fear.  Fear of 'the other', fear of change, fear of anything that threatens to undermind his understanding of the world.

I mean, just look at how they react to things.  Fear and aggression and hatred.

You can say many things about the progressive mindset, but not that it's based in fear.
 
2014-07-15 01:33:45 PM  

Infernalist: This has been done many times.  The conservative mindset is based mostly within the amygdala.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservat iv es-big-fear-brain-study-finds

That's from 2011.


I see your 2011, and raise you 1969...

In 1969, Berkeley professors Jack and Jeanne Block embarked on a study of childhood personality, asking nursery school teachers to rate children's temperaments.

They weren't even thinking about political orientation.

Twenty years later, they decided to compare the subjects' childhood personalities with their political preferences as adults.  They found arresting patterns.

As kids, liberals had developed close relationships with peers and were rated by their teachers as self-reliant, energetic, impulsive, and resilient. People who were conservative at age 23 had been described by their teachers as easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable at age 3.

The reason for the difference, the Blocks hypothesized, was that insecure kids most needed the reassurance of tradition and authority, and they found it in conservative politics.


Also, from 2008, the right-wing Daily Mail told their readers why they were so scared all the time...

The American team's findings - published in the respected journal Science - suggest that our political views are closely linked to our biology.

Anyone whose brain is hard-wired to be anxious about 'external threats', such as loud noises or unpleasant images, is more likely to support hawkish policies such as high military spending and the Iraq War, they said. In contrast, those who are less jumpy will tend to support more liberal immigration laws, pacifism and gun control.

To test their theory, the researchers recruited 46 adults with strong political beliefs.

Each was shown three threatening images - a large spider on the face of a frightened person, a dazed individual with a bloody face and an open wound with maggots on it - interspersed with 33 less disturbing pictures. Sensors measured how much the volunteers sweated.

It was discovered that those with conservative views reacted more strongly to the disturbing pictures than those with liberal opinions. The researchers also measured how hard participants blinked when suddenly played a loud noise. Again, conservatives tended to be more easily startled.


It's when you look at the graphs for the study that you see just HOW scared they are. For the blink test...

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...(where "high support" means high support for the conservative hawkish positions), even the most stoic conservative was more startled than the yellowest of liberals.

The same went for the sweat (electrical conductivity when shown something threatening).

i55.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-15 01:34:53 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: According to Liberals, Conservatives are brain damaged.
According to Conservatives, Liberals lack brain function entirely.


It's not brain damaged. Conservatives can no more help being frightened than a freckled ginger can help being more prone to sunburn in summer.
 
2014-07-15 01:35:16 PM  
Maybe we need to start accepting that some people are just born assholes.
 
2014-07-15 01:36:45 PM  

Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.


See my answer above for how this isn't a superior / inferior thing.

But what IS fascinating is seeing the reaction for those that see themselves as being on the wrong side of this, thanks to their lack of understanding in science.
 
2014-07-15 01:41:51 PM  

Jackpot777: Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.

See my answer above for how this isn't a superior / inferior thing.

But what IS fascinating is seeing the reaction for those that see themselves as being on the wrong side of this, thanks to their lack of understanding in science.


Eh... it was a response to the fark headline, not really to the article.  It's the politics tab.  I'd contend that my distillation is all 90% of posters here need to know.
 
2014-07-15 01:42:20 PM  

ckccfa: Maybe we need to start accepting that some people are just born assholes.


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Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to CPAC.
 
2014-07-15 01:44:03 PM  

ckccfa: Maybe we need to start accepting that some people are just born assholes.


See, this is incorrect. Being an asshole is a lifestyle choice, and we need to get these folks to a deassholinzation clinic/camp.
 
2014-07-15 01:44:09 PM  

Lyonid: Jackpot777: Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.

See my answer above for how this isn't a superior / inferior thing.

But what IS fascinating is seeing the reaction for those that see themselves as being on the wrong side of this, thanks to their lack of understanding in science.

Eh... it was a response to the fark headline, not really to the article.  It's the politics tab.  I'd contend that my distillation is all 90% of posters here need to know.


I don't remember saying that you were one of the ones that see themselves on the wrong side of this.

You needed to dismiss it when not saying anything one way or the other was fine too.

Now I'm interested.
 
2014-07-15 01:47:48 PM  
Science? I thought science couldnt detect a soul?
 
2014-07-15 01:54:41 PM  

Jackpot777: Lyonid: Jackpot777: Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.

See my answer above for how this isn't a superior / inferior thing.

But what IS fascinating is seeing the reaction for those that see themselves as being on the wrong side of this, thanks to their lack of understanding in science.

Eh... it was a response to the fark headline, not really to the article.  It's the politics tab.  I'd contend that my distillation is all 90% of posters here need to know.

I don't remember saying that you were one of the ones that see themselves on the wrong side of this.

You needed to dismiss it when not saying anything one way or the other was fine too.

Now I'm interested.


Huh?

I don't remember implying that you implied that I was on the wrong side of the implications of this study.

/implicitly
 
2014-07-15 02:01:20 PM  

Lyonid: Jackpot777: Lyonid: Jackpot777: Lyonid: ...because the 'other side' is morally and/or intellectually inferior.

/see?  works for everyone.

See my answer above for how this isn't a superior / inferior thing.

But what IS fascinating is seeing the reaction for those that see themselves as being on the wrong side of this, thanks to their lack of understanding in science.

Eh... it was a response to the fark headline, not really to the article.  It's the politics tab.  I'd contend that my distillation is all 90% of posters here need to know.

I don't remember saying that you were one of the ones that see themselves on the wrong side of this.

You needed to dismiss it when not saying anything one way or the other was fine too.

Now I'm interested.

Huh?

I don't remember implying that you implied that I was on the wrong side of the implications of this study.

/implicitly


www.techarena.it
 
2014-07-15 02:04:19 PM  
Let's bring out this fear/no fear argument when the next GMO discussion comes around.   I'll bring the popcorn.   You have to add the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis for any of this to make sense.   Odd thing is that it doesn't matter the direction you diverge from the center in.  All extremes are full of woo.   I have the suspicion that this study is done by people who aren't as close to the center as they think they are.
 
2014-07-15 02:06:36 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Let's bring out this fear/no fear argument when the next GMO discussion comes around.   I'll bring the popcorn.   You have to add the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis for any of this to make sense.   Odd thing is that it doesn't matter the direction you diverge from the center in.  All extremes are full of woo.   I have the suspicion that this study is done by people who aren't as close to the center as they think they are.


So: you have subjective feelings about the science based on ...?
 
2014-07-15 02:12:29 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Let's bring out this fear/no fear argument when the next GMO discussion comes around.   I'll bring the popcorn.   You have to add the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis for any of this to make sense.   Odd thing is that it doesn't matter the direction you diverge from the center in.  All extremes are full of woo.   I have the suspicion that this study is done by people who aren't as close to the center as they think they are.


And the 'CENTER" is where all the correct ideas are, because it is THE center.  You cannot be wrong if you are in THE center.  If you stray from the center too far you are automatically wrong no matter what, it's a fact, if you think I am wrong you obviously are off center.
 
2014-07-15 02:22:35 PM  

ikanreed: namatad: You know, another word for this is Coward.
They certainly act like a bunch of cowards.


As a hyper-liberal here:
A coward isn't a person who is afraid.
A coward is a person who won't face their fears and instead force others to do so for them.


That was a subtle chickenhawk slam.
 
2014-07-15 02:40:22 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: That was a subtle chickenhawk slam.


That chickenhawks are cowards is implicit in the term.  I don't think it's "slamming" them to describe the category that happens to includes them as honestly as I could.
 
2014-07-15 02:40:55 PM  
Ever wonder why a conservative is a conservative


Hey, somebody has to have below-average intelligence.
 
2014-07-15 02:41:55 PM  
Clearly, liberals are superior to conservatives.
 
2014-07-15 03:02:30 PM  

Destructor: Clearly, liberals are superior to conservatives.


Well, when you look at the success of countries by metrics like life expectancy, self-reported happiness, level of inequality, rates of violence, rates of incarceration, etc. those on the more liberal end of the spectrum generally fare better.
 
2014-07-15 03:06:51 PM  
I find it interesting that pure hatred for conservatives and oh god help you if you are a christian. It helps me to know what people are really saying and thinking about me behind my back. Chilling however
 
2014-07-15 03:10:29 PM  

walkingtall: I find it interesting that pure hatred for conservatives and oh god help you if you are a christian. It helps me to know what people are really saying and thinking about me behind my back. Chilling however


Look, we're not mocking your mental disorders out of intent to make your life more unpleasant, but help you understand what's causing you to be so wrong all the time.
 
2014-07-15 03:16:57 PM  

walkingtall: I find it interesting that pure hatred for conservatives and oh god help you if you are a christian. It helps me to know what people are really saying and thinking about me behind my back. Chilling however


As long as Conservative Christian is the equivalent of Authoritarian Dominionist, then yes, the hatred will flow, and rightly so.

Believe whatever silliness you want, but keep it out secular law. Thx ^_^
 
2014-07-15 03:19:08 PM  

Destructor: Clearly, liberals are superior to conservatives.


NOW we're making progress!
Good for you. You had a breakthrough.
 
2014-07-15 03:30:04 PM  

dstrick44: Destructor: Clearly, liberals are superior to conservatives.

NOW we're making progress!
Good for you. You had a breakthrough.


He's just feeling afraid that he'll always feel the feeling of fear.

Every day.

Every. Single. Day.

I mean: just imagine. Imagine what that must be like. Every day of your life. In dread. And knowing that no matter what you say, no matter what you cling to, no matter how you try to hurt liberals and progressives, it's physiologically impossible for any of them to feel fear like you feel it. Ever. And you feel it every single day.

It must drive people mad, and I mean by the medical definition, living in perpetual fear like that. And no decision you make can be thought through because just thinking about things, just thinking about anything, fills you with an overwhelming sense of dread to a level you NOW discover your political opponents will never experience.

You try to imagine what it's like, but you can't quite experience it because you don't get that prickly feeling on the skin all the time. You don't get sweat on your palms, all the time. You don't get that metallic taste like copper in your mouth, all the time.

All. The. Time.

That's what it's like to be conservative. Every day of your life has been like that.

Every. Day.
 
2014-07-15 03:31:21 PM  

OneTimed: Believe whatever silliness you want, but keep it out secular law. Thx ^_^


So who watches the watchers? Do we simply make laws by majority opinion? Is there such a thing as right and wrong? Or is it simply "evolving"? Exactly what is purely secular law anyway? I agree with the separation of church and state 100% completely but when it comes to the moral basis that is the foundation of law to begin with where does that come from? Who get to decide? Just curious. We are living in a time that is rewriting everything. Families are no more. Right and wrong are no more. It is simply do whatever you want up until that line of legality. What is legal is the only boundary we have left. Just curious is that really the way we want things?
 
2014-07-15 03:34:01 PM  

ikanreed: Look, we're not mocking your mental disorders out of intent to make your life more unpleasant, but help you understand what's causing you to be so wrong all the time.


Ive been on both sides. I have said almost this exact same thing to people in my life. Now it comes back to me and I suppose that is a measure of justice but you have no idea how simply wrong you are and how wrong your entire mental life is. Everything you think you know, the bedrock upon which you have placed everything is made of sand. It makes me sad.
 
2014-07-15 03:35:42 PM  

walkingtall: OneTimed: Believe whatever silliness you want, but keep it out secular law. Thx ^_^

So who watches the watchers? Do we simply make laws by majority opinion? Is there such a thing as right and wrong? Or is it simply "evolving"? Exactly what is purely secular law anyway? I agree with the separation of church and state 100% completely but when it comes to the moral basis that is the foundation of law to begin with where does that come from? Who get to decide? Just curious. We are living in a time that is rewriting everything. Families are no more. Right and wrong are no more. It is simply do whatever you want up until that line of legality. What is legal is the only boundary we have left. Just curious is that really the way we want things?


WTF does this have to do with secularism?  Morals don't flow from non-secularism.
 
2014-07-15 03:36:58 PM  

orclover: Science? I thought science couldnt detect a soul?


http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
 
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