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(WTKR)   Estranged husband of murdered DMV clerk says wife received death threats from customers, narrowing the suspect list down to just about everyone   (wtkr.com) divider line 59
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2014-07-15 03:53:11 PM  
"Sir, you broke 6 traffic laws, destroyed 2 mailboxes and ran over a cat. We're not renewing your licence."

"fark you, you're dead."

/something like that I'm sure
 
2014-07-15 04:18:55 PM  
1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

2) I've never once been so frustrated and enraged at the DMV (well, in this state we call them revenue offices) that I've threatened the clerks. The paperwork may be a pain in the ass but they're hardly the ones who came up with all this bullshiat.
 
2014-07-15 04:19:26 PM  
You didn't bring three pieces of unopened mail with your current address on it that are post dated no more than 7 days ago...

Come back and start at the back of the 2 hour deep line...

/so much rage at that point...
//I wanted to slam that workers head against the counter
///open from 8:30-4:30 for your convenience
 
2014-07-15 04:19:40 PM  
Ha Ha, Subby's DMV sucks

Somehow I doubt this is related to her job...I'm putting my money o her husband havinng hired someone.
 
2014-07-15 04:20:52 PM  
If you have any information that could help police in this investigation, you can take action against crime and call the Crimeline at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.

Lock ME up? Fine, I was going to call in a tip but never mind.
 
2014-07-15 04:21:18 PM  
Who doesn't want to shoot a DMV worker?
 
2014-07-15 04:21:42 PM  

akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.


Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive
 
2014-07-15 04:22:04 PM  

akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

2) I've never once been so frustrated and enraged at the DMV (well, in this state we call them revenue offices) that I've threatened the clerks. The paperwork may be a pain in the ass but they're hardly the ones who came up with all this bullshiat.


FTA: Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years,
 
2014-07-15 04:22:42 PM  

you are a puppet: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive


That IS the secret to a strong marriage though.
 
2014-07-15 04:24:56 PM  

boinkingbill: Who doesn't want to shoot a DMV worker?



Me. Too painless and impersonal. I want to pull the mask off in the middle and say, "LOOK AT ME!!1! I DID THIS TO YOU!!!!"

/Not a fan of the DMV
 
2014-07-15 04:25:12 PM  

boinkingbill: Who doesn't want to shoot a DMV worker?


Apparently someone.  As of last Oct, the DMV was more popular than the United States Congress.

Citation:  http://ti.me/1tNVxBR
 
2014-07-15 04:25:53 PM  
Estranged men lying with reporters is no basis for a system of newsprint.
 
2014-07-15 04:27:25 PM  

you are a puppet: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive


Ah. missed that part. Never mind then.
 
2014-07-15 04:28:09 PM  
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Primus wanted to questioning.
 
2014-07-15 04:28:21 PM  

Snarfangel: Estranged men lying with reporters is no basis for a system of newsprint.


+1
 
2014-07-15 04:29:23 PM  
Thank heaven my last license renewal could be done online. Hate goimg to the DMV.
 
2014-07-15 04:34:20 PM  

akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

2) I've never once been so frustrated and enraged at the DMV (well, in this state we call them revenue offices) that I've threatened the clerks. The paperwork may be a pain in the ass but they're hardly the ones who came up with all this bullshiat.


I needed 6 forms of ID.  Amazingly I had 6 forms of ID except 1 didn't have my middle initial. BOOM REJECTED!
 
2014-07-15 04:35:18 PM  
She received threats on a regular basis, but she loved her job. What's wrong with this picture? Anyone that received treats, and enjoys it, has a bit of a power trip going on.
 
2014-07-15 04:36:58 PM  
Unobtanium: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

2) I've never once been so frustrated and enraged at the DMV (well, in this state we call them revenue offices) that I've threatened the clerks. The paperwork may be a pain in the ass but they're hardly the ones who came up with all this bullshiat.

FTA: Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years,


I'd hate to see what akula considers a weak relationship.
 
2014-07-15 04:39:43 PM  
last trip to the DMV was sooo much fun.

2013 moved to new state. Can't transfer my INS without license and reg in new state. Have to go to the office can't do it online.

I get there, I go early, I'm pretty pumped as there was only 2 people in front of me. I get to the counter I have all my paperwork and them some. She was super nice etc. So then she runs my info. She slides a piece of paper at me asking if I ever lived in RI. Sure I say, I went to college there almost 20 years ago. She says oh I'm sorry it says you have an open violation in the state of RI and you'll have to get this sorted out with them. I was like umm well I haven't lived there in almost 20 years and I have had my license renewed many times since etc. She was like Oh they only brought this database online within the last several years. So I was like how on earth am I supposed to dispute a traffic ticket that is 20 years old that I don't even recall ever getting ? shrugs shoulders hands me a number says call them.

So essentially all these states have gotten themselves a shared database and god forbid you are in it because they are going to make you pay out the ass. So ya I could see whay they had the sign on the wall that any aggression even getting loud will get you escorted out.
 
2014-07-15 04:42:57 PM  
Threatening and shooting a 65-year-old woman, eh? Must have been a pretty tough dude.
 
2014-07-15 04:48:05 PM  

kling_klang_bed: [img.cache.vevo.com image 640x480]

Primus wanted to questioning.


Precisely what I came for.
And you even got a clip from the video.

+1 for you.
 
2014-07-15 04:48:40 PM  

pkrzycki: You didn't bring three pieces of unopened mail with your current address on it that are post dated no more than 7 days ago...

Come back and start at the back of the 2 hour deep line...

/so much rage at that point...
//I wanted to slam that workers head against the counter
///open from 8:30-4:30 for your convenience


I had an experience like tha too; the bonus was the non engrish speaking clerk and a 3 hour wait.
 
2014-07-15 04:53:06 PM  
Generally speaking, I hate going to DMV.  Or as they call it in NJ now, the MVC.

Last time I was there, I had to get a title and a registration on a car I just bought.
So I turned in my stuff, and I sat down to wait.  I gave my wife a call to give her a status report.  I was only on the phone for 2 minutes, and I got called up to the counter.  I knew there was a problem.

It turns out, there was no problem.  They were done.  "Here are your plates and your new title."

I was like, "Wait, what?!  I didn't even have a chance to get annoyed!!"

Either that was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, or MVC has REALLY improved their systems.
 
2014-07-15 04:53:57 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: you are a puppet: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive

That IS the secret to a strong marriage though.


I wasn't married to her but I once worked for a woman who I didn't talk to for over a year even tho, according to the org web, I reported directly to her in one of my roles.  In the beginning, when she told me what she wanted done, she'd also tell me exactly  how she wanted it done.  I'd suggest more efficient and robust methods and she'd get mad and tell me to do it her way.  I'd do it her way and she'd see why it was wrong, then tell me to do it my way.  After that happened a few times, she stopped giving me tasks directly and went thru an intermediary.  Great success!  I'd do the job right the first time and tell the intermediary it was done and they'd report back to the boss.  We didn't say one word to each other for over a year.  Then I was in a really chipper mood one day and said, "Good morning!" as we passed in the hall.  The look on her face was pure victory.  We talked normally after that but she still assigned tasks thu a third party.

Why, yes, it was a very dysfunctional place to work.  Why do you ask?
 
2014-07-15 04:55:26 PM  

NightOwl2255: She received threats on a regular basis, but she loved her job. What's wrong with this picture? Anyone that received treats, and enjoys it, has a bit of a power trip going on.


What's wrong with this picture is the person who is saying she recieved death threats at work hadn't seen or spoken to her in "years"
 
2014-07-15 04:56:59 PM  

kindms: you have an open violation in the state of RI a


You may thank Judge Alito for that.
the farking asshole.
He doesn't care about statutes
 
2014-07-15 04:58:27 PM  
Last trip to an out-of-state license for an in-state license = five minute wait. I know how to obtain the required documentation before going into a gub'mint building.

A valid passport never hurts, either.
 
2014-07-15 05:00:47 PM  
FTFA: He had to see for himself. Shards of glass from her car window still scattered in the grass and gravel driveway and a silver tarp is now taped over the gaping hole.

That's not a very nice way to refer to the poor guy's ex... but I guess we didn't know her as well as he did.
 
2014-07-15 05:03:11 PM  
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Wanted for questioning.
 
2014-07-15 05:04:56 PM  

cretinbob: Ha Ha, Subby's DMV sucks

Somehow I doubt this is related to her job...I'm putting my money o her husband havinng hired someone.


Low hanging fruit. Sure. Couldn't be a random act of violence done by some passive aggressive asswipe... no, just go for the classic "the butler did it" and leave all that thinking and stuff to them big city folk.
 
2014-07-15 05:07:15 PM  

you are a puppet: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive


Just because they were separated and didn't talk doesn't mean they didn't fark regularly.
 
2014-07-15 05:12:17 PM  
"She didn't bother nobody" per the hick-ass husband.

But did she bother anybody?

It appears she did.
 
2014-07-15 05:12:26 PM  

cretinbob: NightOwl2255: She received threats on a regular basis, but she loved her job. What's wrong with this picture? Anyone that received treats, and enjoys it, has a bit of a power trip going on.

What's wrong with this picture is the person who is saying she recieved death threats at work hadn't seen or spoken to her in "years"


"Every day she would come home and tell me about those death threats, and I would say 'quit your damn job and let's just move somewhere," he recalls. "

Nothing's wrong with that picture...the threats happened even when they were still together.
 
2014-07-15 05:17:36 PM  
Somedays we don't let the line move at all.

We call those--weekdays.
 
2014-07-15 05:26:56 PM  

you are a puppet: akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

Sam Fleming says they were separated and hadn't talked in years, but when he heard the news, he says he rushed to Katherine's home on Shawen Drive


Yes, the perfect cover to contaminate the crime scene....
 
2014-07-15 05:31:50 PM  
kindms:

So essentially all these states have gotten themselves a shared database and god forbid you are in it because they are going to make you pay out the ass. So ya I could see whay they had the sign on the wall that any aggression even getting loud will get you escorted out.

Thank REAL ID. See, all the privacy advocates pissed and moaned about a "national database" so what dis the government do? They just connected all the state databases together. See, there is no "national database" but there is a national database. Cool how that works (full on sarcasm).
 
2014-07-15 05:47:11 PM  
Yeah, I think "estranged husband" means the list of suspects probably has just one name on it.
 
2014-07-15 05:48:41 PM  

akula: 1) TFA doesn't say the husband was estranged. In fact, it seems to imply the opposite- that the relationship was strong.

2) I've never once been so frustrated and enraged at the DMV (well, in this state we call them revenue offices) that I've threatened the clerks. The paperwork may be a pain in the ass but they're hardly the ones who came up with all this bullshiat.


You're a sane person. Not a right wing III Percent Patriot.

It strikes me that this could be the operation of one of the III Percent movement's "LGOP," or "little groups of patriots." Their mandate: "in the absence of orders, find something Evil and kill it [sic]."

Did a III Percenter decide that a Big Government restriction on his driver's license for blindness/epilepsy/diabetes/whatever  was an intolerable act of tyranny warranting a 2nd Amendment remedy?

We don't know at this stage, but we certainly can't rule it out.
 
2014-07-15 05:49:23 PM  
Was it the AssMan?
 
2014-07-15 06:00:50 PM  
Where do you people live that your DMV is so bad? I can get titles, licenses, tags, whatever, about as fast as I can get a burger.
 
2014-07-15 06:04:53 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Where do you people live that your DMV is so bad? I can get titles, licenses, tags, whatever, about as fast as I can get a burger.



Nice try, but I know for a fact that it takes forever to get a burger at the DMV.
 
2014-07-15 06:17:25 PM  
Like with everyone else, DMV workers are a lot more forgiving if you're not a total ass to them.  Try a joke or two, some sympathy.  That's how I got my license renewed when I definitely didn't have the ID they required. One supervisory over-ride, coming up.  I've never had any trouble with them or clerks at airline desks.  Now, the TSA can DIAF.  Being friendly isn't a great excuse for an enhanced, super intimate private freedom pat down.
 
2014-07-15 06:42:09 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Where do you people live that your DMV is so bad? I can get titles, licenses, tags, whatever, about as fast as I can get a burger.


I got my first license pretty easily, mainly because my grandmother was a clerk at the DMV in Harrisburg.  In Wisconsin, I got a license using only a library card.  Getting a license in NJ, on the other hand, was a biatch.
 
2014-07-15 06:42:24 PM  
In Alberta we have privately run registries that handle all sorts of stuff from vehicle registrations to licenses to certificates, etc. They're FANTASTIC. They compete with each other for better customer service.
 
2014-07-15 06:48:45 PM  
No Jack Reacher references?

/I am disappoint.
 
2014-07-15 07:02:35 PM  
This must be an American thing. I've never had a problem here in Ontario. The worst "DMV" I've gone to was in downtown Toronto. The people were polite, but the line was an hour long. Then I moved to a small town and went to the MTO office there. I was second in line as soon as I walked in the door, and the woman behind the counter was cheerful and friendly!
 
2014-07-15 07:11:42 PM  
The last time I went to the DMV, my name was called first but a woman with a similar name approached the counter and started arguing that they got her name incorrect. People at the DMV are usually stupid assholes.
 
2014-07-15 07:48:50 PM  

bingethinker: This must be an American thing. I've never had a problem here in Ontario. The worst "DMV" I've gone to was in downtown Toronto. The people were polite, but the line was an hour long. Then I moved to a small town and went to the MTO office there. I was second in line as soon as I walked in the door, and the woman behind the counter was cheerful and friendly!


It tends to differ by state.  SC always had a wait and little bit of bad attitude on the other side of the counter.  MI used to be a longer wait, but somehow they managed to really turn things around.  The longest wait is at first opening when a bunch of people show to rush in, trying to beat the wait.  However, go in an hour after they open and there is no wait at all.  That has been my experience for the last few years, and live in city.

The first time I took my oldest son to the SOS, it was to get his state ID.  We went up with all the documentation needed according to their website.  MI SOS requires proof of residency by the way of printed mail with the person's name, only not many kids have official mail sent to them.  So, the state does give a loophole around that by stating the ID of guardian will work to show residence.  So, mom was their with her ID, all ready.  The clerk started giving us a runaround, and we got them to pull up their own website to see the rules they should already know.  After that, we sat down as he filled out paperwork.  Then he learned a valuable lesson, when you have the ability to go back to the same clerk you had before, do just that.  He picked a different one, and started the runaround all over again.

When my parents came up to give me a truck, we went in to transfer the title and my mom took her knitting, expecting a long wait.  We were back on the sidewalk ten minutes later, and she was upset she didn't get to work one stitch.  She looked at me and said, "That's it?"  I replied, "yep", and showed her the new title and plate.  She retorted, "It just isn't right, I needed to work on my knitting."  It took longer to find a notary public to satisfy her state's requirement.
 
2014-07-15 07:51:02 PM  

boinkingbill: Who doesn't want to shoot a DMV worker?


I've never had a bad experience at the DMV. The ladies are always helpful and funny.
I never got the rage at the DMV.
 
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