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(Daily Mail)   Debate rages over whether officials should be allowed to be sworn in on tablets instead of traditional Bibles. How many people would complain if someone switched the file from the Bible to 50 Shades of Grey before the ceremony?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 55
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2014-07-15 09:29:48 AM
Whitney argues that the presence of apps and other books makes the oath less pure.



And there it is, the dumbest thing I will (hopefully) read all week.
 
2014-07-15 10:01:35 AM
i.imgur.com

/Oy.
 
2014-07-15 10:18:33 AM

Sybarite: Whitney argues that the presence of apps and other books makes the oath less pure.

And there it is, the dumbest thing I will (hopefully) read all week.



I was going to make a joke about the other not counting or something but the article seems to have that covered.
 
2014-07-15 10:49:07 AM
If the Tea Party has its way, they'll use this:

g-ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-07-15 10:53:46 AM
Yeah, because God won't seep into their pores unless they're touching an actual book.

This planet is so goddamn dumb.
 
2014-07-15 01:18:11 PM
You know that you cannot LIE after swearing on a bible....you will go to hell.  I can't see an app replacing that.
 
2014-07-15 01:18:34 PM
On the other hand, heaven forbid that they honor tradition by having to touch an actual book.  It's not about the content, it's about the act itself.
 
2014-07-15 01:21:16 PM
Being sworn in on 50 Shades would obligate me to lie my ass off.
 
2014-07-15 01:21:20 PM
Experts are wondering aloud if the recent wave of U.S. officials using Bibles displayed on electronic devices has the same meaning as using a traditional printed version of the holy book.

yes, it has the exact same meaning: diddly squat.
 
2014-07-15 01:22:34 PM
I always thought elected officials should be sworn in by placing a hand on their bank statements; along with a not-so-subtle reminder of what might disappear should (when) they not perform their duties in good faith.
 
2014-07-15 01:22:51 PM

No Line For Beer: It's not about the content, it's about the act itself.


What is it, exactly, about the act? Other than tradition?
 
2014-07-15 01:29:08 PM

LostInTO: I can't see an app replacing that.


There is an app for that.

a963.phobos.apple.com
 
2014-07-15 01:31:54 PM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-07-15 01:32:37 PM
This is a huge deal.

/nope
//electronic Vedas, Eddas or The Complete Works of Chuck the Squirrel would be more interesting
///but barely
 
2014-07-15 01:35:38 PM
get a real book, if you are going to have a tradition do it right

/ this whole premise sounds like trolling

"war on Christmas" style
 
2014-07-15 01:35:46 PM
I won't swear on a bible anyway--that's not my religion.  May as well swear on a copy of Aesop's Fables for all I care.

Anyone who's going to perjure themselves are going to do it no matter what book you have them swear on, you morons.  Is there nothing more important these people have to worry about?
 
2014-07-15 01:36:05 PM
No it doesn't.
 
2014-07-15 01:44:12 PM
I'd prefer we swear them in in electric chairs.
 
2014-07-15 01:44:27 PM
sigh

I feel dumber for having read that article
 
2014-07-15 01:52:03 PM

LostInTO: You know that you cannot LIE after swearing on a bible....you will go to hell.  I can't see an app replacing that.


No, you just can't lie.  At all.  Not an option.  It's like Wonder Woman's lasso.

re: the article, what if we just compromise.  Use the Bible, not 50 Shades, but turn it to the Song of Solomon?
 
2014-07-15 01:52:18 PM
Who cares? The only thing quicker than the time it takes most politicians to start ignoring that oath is an F1 car on full throttle...
 
2014-07-15 01:54:44 PM
I've got an app on my phone called "Laudate". It's, like, everything Catholic. It's got two versions of the Bible, including the Apocrypha. Would that fly?

//Not Catholic, thought the app would be cool.
 
2014-07-15 01:56:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, because God won't seep into their pores unless they're touching an actual book.

This planet is so goddamn dumb.


Let's not damn the whole planet just because America has let our fundamentalist dipsh#ts run amok.
 
2014-07-15 01:57:27 PM

AlgaeRancher: get a real book, if you are going to have a tradition do it right

/ this whole premise sounds like trolling

"war on Christmas" style


This. If you're swearing in as Mayor of a town with a factory that makes tabs, then this is clever. Laptops... dyed werewolf pelts with your favorite bible verse dyed into it... whatever they make use that.

Otherwise use a farking book.

What would my home town have? You could try scribbling on a few crab shells but that would be ugly and would smell terrible and would crumble as soon as you put your hand down. I guess oysters would make more sense but that would still be strange.

Let's just stick to books.
 
2014-07-15 02:12:04 PM
TV and movies are not real life.
You raise your right hand (or left, if you can't raise the right) and state the magic formula. No book or text is required. You can affirm instead of swear. And you don't have to drag God into it.
/Mennonites, Jews, and Quakers already knew this.
 
2014-07-15 02:14:06 PM
They all lie anyways, so what does it matter?
 
2014-07-15 02:16:56 PM
demaL-demaL-yeH

TV and movies are not real life.

I knew those presidential oaths were faked!
 
2014-07-15 02:24:09 PM
What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?
 
2014-07-15 02:33:14 PM

give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?


Or The Constitution, like Teddy Roosevelt did. You don't even have to be an atheist.
 
2014-07-15 02:34:26 PM

give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?


We know, you're just asking questions.

/Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
 
2014-07-15 02:36:00 PM

give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?


You don't. You raise your right hand and "affirm", which is legally equivalent.  Many choose the Constitution, however, if given a choice of document to rest their hand on.
 
2014-07-15 02:48:53 PM

Sybarite: Whitney argues that the presence of apps and other books makes the oath less pure.

And there it is, the dumbest thing I will (hopefully) read all week.


This is the subset of Americans who literally believe in magic.  Not god, but that a piece of paper with words on it can magically make someone more sincere.
 
2014-07-15 02:59:06 PM

Khellendros: give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?

You don't. You raise your right hand and "affirm", which is legally equivalent.  Many choose the Constitution, however, if given a choice of document to rest their hand on.


What if I lower my left hand? Should I close my eyes? Should I be standing for this? Can leg-disabled people "affirm?"

31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-07-15 03:09:03 PM
For some reason this clip came to mind


/sorry about bad quality...not mine.
 
2014-07-15 03:18:51 PM
Why don't elected members swear on a constitution (state or federal) since that is what they're swearing an oath to?
 
Ant
2014-07-15 03:22:52 PM

No Line For Beer: On the other hand, heaven forbid that they honor tradition by having to touch an actual book.  It's not about the content, it's about the act itself.


"That's the way we've always done it" is a horrible reason to keep doing something.
 
Ant
2014-07-15 03:26:58 PM

Barricaded Gunman: Lando Lincoln: Yeah, because God won't seep into their pores unless they're touching an actual book.

This planet is so goddamn dumb.

Let's not damn the whole planet just because America has let our fundamentalist dipsh#ts run amok.


There are dumb people doing stupid and pointless shiat all over the world.
 
2014-07-15 03:28:02 PM

treesloth: LostInTO: You know that you cannot LIE after swearing on a bible....you will go to hell.  I can't see an app replacing that.

No, you just can't lie.  At all.  Not an option.  It's like Wonder Woman's lasso.

re: the article, what if we just compromise.  Use the Bible, not 50 Shades, but turn it to the Song of Solomon?


Actually that would be a good reason to ban it - at least with the physical thing it is closed and there is no "messaging" taking part (in general). With a tablet you will get some "one upping" each other - swearing on some passage of Leviticus and that sort of thing
 
2014-07-15 03:32:56 PM

Saborlas: Being sworn in on 50 Shades would obligate me to lie my ass off.


At least the punishment for lying would be way more sexxay.
 
Ant
2014-07-15 03:33:33 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: And you don't have to drag God into it.
/Mennonites, Jews, and Quakers already knew this.


You do have to drag God into it if you want to score points with the god-botherers
 
2014-07-15 03:34:18 PM

Lando Lincoln: This planet is so goddamn dumb.


This.
 
2014-07-15 03:34:32 PM

give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?


You don't get elected if you reject the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
Ant
2014-07-15 03:35:10 PM

give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?


Ha! As if an open atheist would ever be elected to an office higher than city council!
 
2014-07-15 03:44:40 PM

Hiro-ACiD: give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?

We know, you're just asking questions.

/Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.


I AM NOT DRUNK!
 
2014-07-15 03:47:37 PM

Khellendros: give me doughnuts: What if you're an atheist?

What do you swear on then? "On the Origin of the Species"? "Principia Mathematica"?

You don't. You raise your right hand and "affirm", which is legally equivalent.  Many choose the Constitution, however, if given a choice of document to rest their hand on.


The only times I had to swear an oath, there wasn't any book/document/relic to swear, aver, or affirm on. Just the usual "raise your right hand, and repeat after me..."
 
2014-07-15 04:49:35 PM
''What the jury couldn't see is that the book the good reverend swore on was a copy of 'Moby Dick'.''
/can'tbeobscure
 
2014-07-15 04:58:46 PM
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.    -James 5:12

Doesn't anyone ever read the damned book?
 
2014-07-15 05:51:24 PM
The "debate" should be about whether magic rituals requiring certain gestures, words and objects have any place in 21st Century government.
 
2014-07-15 05:55:12 PM
I want to get elected to something someday just so I can decide between whether to use a copy of Cosmos or God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.
 
2014-07-15 06:28:45 PM

pearls before swine


But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. -James 5:12

Doesn't anyone ever read the damned book?


"This above all else: to thine own self be true."
 
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