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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-15 10:20:13 AM  
Robot helmet with lines of flashing lights? Original series Cylon. Must kill.
 
2014-07-15 01:41:16 PM  
Our traffic laws are so contradictory. I can be riding down the road in my multi airbag-equipped 3,500 lbs. sedan and get pulled over (and heavily fined) for not wearing my seat belt.  Conversely, I ride down the road on my motorcycle in shorts, a t-shirt and sneakers wearing a non DOT approved skid lid and the cops do nothing. I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.

CSB - My girlfriend does not like the fact that I wear this skin-thin brain bucket. So I took her helmet shopping (and to the shoe store & to lunch - I'm not that big of an idiot) and put on the the DOT helmets that fit me. I gave her this "See? This is why I don't wear a proper helmet" look & she started guffawing to the point where other customers looked and started smirking themselves. She called me The Great Gazoo and now she understands why I wear the skid lid.


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2014-07-15 01:42:10 PM  
Makes it easier to see the asshole who keeps cutting in and out of traffic, and darting between you and the semi in front of you, only to have to hit his brakes because there actually wasn't enough space.


See, I see motorcycle riders, but apparently they can't see cars as they ride on the road that was apparently only built for them.
 
2014-07-15 01:54:40 PM  
" these extra brake lights are especially visible in close traffic when taillights are harder to see. "

If you are too close to a car to see their brake lights you shouldn't be moving fast enough for it to cause a problem. If you are going fast enough for it to be an issue, you a piece of a shiat and I truly wish it was legal for the person in front of you to toss bricks out their sunroof and into your windshield. Doubly so if the person you're behind doesn't have a steel cage around them.

/ cousin keeps pennies on him to flick behind him
 
2014-07-15 02:00:18 PM  

Slayinit: Our traffic laws are so contradictory. I can be riding down the road in my multi airbag-equipped 3,500 lbs. sedan and get pulled over (and heavily fined) for not wearing my seat belt.  Conversely, I ride down the road on my motorcycle in shorts, a t-shirt and sneakers wearing a non DOT approved skid lid and the cops do nothing. I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.

CSB - My girlfriend does not like the fact that I wear this skin-thin brain bucket. So I took her helmet shopping (and to the shoe store & to lunch - I'm not that big of an idiot) and put on the the DOT helmets that fit me. I gave her this "See? This is why I don't wear a proper helmet" look & she started guffawing to the point where other customers looked and started smirking themselves. She called me The Great Gazoo and now she understands why I wear the skid lid.


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I giggled, but that's seriously a terrible excuse. For sure, the commodity helmets (HJC etc) have some pretty shiatty size ranges, but any good store will work with you to customize the padding on a decent helmet to perfectly fit your head.

For Christ's sakes, a good helmet costs $400 easy. The least they can do is give it a shot of it actually working in a collision by fitting you properly.

/ Full face helmets ftw
// You only need to cover the parts of your face you want to keep
 
2014-07-15 02:19:50 PM  
Just use these and turned them around
www.therpf.com
 
2014-07-15 02:28:06 PM  
Something like that might have helped this guy. But probably not, the person that hit him was most likely looking at their phone instead of the road ahead.
 
2014-07-15 02:29:54 PM  

Slayinit: I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.


Oh, please. Jay Leno is the same way and he still wears a helmet. Watching his motorcycle videos on his YouTube channel Jay Leno's Garage you can see him in his Arai helmet. His eyes sit about an inch lower in the visor than they should and his chin pokes out the bottom but he still wears it. Protective equipment isn't about looking good, it's about being safe. Sometimes you can get both in one package. Sometimes, but not always. Please wear your helmet, you green alien fark.

If you really want to be visible in traffic then replace your brake light with a high quality LED light and install a flasher circuit. These setups will flash 4-5 times and then remain solid when you use your brakes. People can zone out a solid light pretty easily when there are several solid lights in their field of view. But a flashing light, and especially a bright one, snaps them out of their daydream and back into attention.

Getting a white helmet helps, too. Those are easily the most visible.
 
2014-07-15 02:44:30 PM  

TotesCrayCray: replace your brake light with a high quality LED light and install a flasher circuit.



I really do notice the blinky lights a whole lot better on motorcycles; same with the pulsating headlights. I'm beginning to wonder if I'd be OK with those being mandatory.
 
2014-07-15 02:45:25 PM  
Slayinit: I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.


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2014-07-15 02:46:37 PM  

Slayinit: Our traffic laws are so contradictory. I can be riding down the road in my multi airbag-equipped 3,500 lbs. sedan and get pulled over (and heavily fined) for not wearing my seat belt.  Conversely, I ride down the road on my motorcycle in shorts, a t-shirt and sneakers wearing a non DOT approved skid lid and the cops do nothing. I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.

CSB - My girlfriend does not like the fact that I wear this skin-thin brain bucket. So I took her helmet shopping (and to the shoe store & to lunch - I'm not that big of an idiot) and put on the the DOT helmets that fit me. I gave her this "See? This is why I don't wear a proper helmet" look & she started guffawing to the point where other customers looked and started smirking themselves. She called me The Great Gazoo and now she understands why I wear the skid lid.


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Vanity isn't really a great excuse for permanent brain injury. Buy yourself a proper full face helmet so that paramedics aren't left scraping your brains off the sidewalk.
 
2014-07-15 03:24:06 PM  
rynthetyn:

Vanity isn't really a great excuse for permanent brain injury. Buy yourself a proper full face helmet so that paramedics aren't left scraping your brains off the sidewalk.

Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?
 
2014-07-15 03:52:42 PM  

Slayinit: rynthetyn:

Vanity isn't really a great excuse for permanent brain injury. Buy yourself a proper full face helmet so that paramedics aren't left scraping your brains off the sidewalk.

Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?


What helmet are using? Decent helmets have good aerodynamics, and in any case, a sore neck is better than trying to function with a traumatic brain injury.
 
2014-07-15 03:56:07 PM  

OutsmartBullet: For sure, the commodity helmets (HJC etc) have some pretty shiatty size ranges, but any good store will work with you to customize the padding on a decent helmet to perfectly fit your head.


I have a larger noggin and I use an HJC IS-Max.  It's a decent helmet not great but rated good and I like it.   But more to the point, every shop I know has either worked on the padding like you mentioned or quickly say "Give me your information and we can have one of our reps contact you!"  You just have to let them know you need help.

Let me fix this for you: 

rynthetyn: Vanity isn't really a great excuse for permanent brain injury. Buy yourself a proper full face helmet so that paramedics aren't left scraping your brains and or chin, teeth, lower jaw and sometimes nose off the sidewalk.


Vanity is a phenomenal reason to wear a full face helmet.

/I've heard the ladies find a guy who still has his entire face way more sexy.
 
2014-07-15 04:01:38 PM  

TotesCrayCray: If you really want to be visible in traffic then replace your brake light with a high quality LED light and install a flasher circuit. These setups will flash 4-5 times and then remain solid when you use your brakes. People can zone out a solid light pretty easily when there are several solid lights in their field of view. But a flashing light, and especially a bright one, snaps them out of their daydream and back into attention.


I did this minus the flasher.  I will eventually make my own.  But in the mean time I also added additional LED lights in the shadows of my bike so they are invisible when off but very visible when I hit the brakes.  I also added additional turn indicating LED's, as well as side/forward facing white LED running lights.  Screw being heard, I want to be seen.

/Way back in the day I drove transit bus while going to college.  Rear ended 11 time in four years by people who "didn't see the bus."
//I now do a full scan ever 3-4 seconds.  It's saved me more than once.
 
2014-07-15 04:03:37 PM  

rynthetyn: Slayinit: rynthetyn:

What helmet are using? Decent helmets have good aerodynamics, and in any case, a sore neck is better than trying to function with a traumatic brain injury.


A Shoei & an AFX. The AFX one was pretty cheap which lead me to by the Shoei. It's a nice helmet but at XXL (I'm 5'10" 175 lbs - Joe Farking Average except for the melon head) it really gets tiring on long rides.

I could buy a windshield. I could get a safer bike & gear. Hell, I could give up riding altogether! But the danger & risk-taking is a big part of the fun...for me, at least. For the summer my "Made in Pakistan - Use at Your Own Risk" labeled XXL 'helmet' works for me.

And I do appreciate the concern. Thank you.
 
2014-07-15 04:12:34 PM  

Slayinit: & gear.


I has a sad.

The ride is the thrill.  Road rash is just painful.  ATGATT

/I firmly believe there are two types of riders.  Those who have put it down and those who will.  You may be a member of both but you are always a member of one.
// Not necessarily directed at Slayinit > Yeah, yeah, you are a ninja on two wheels.  How the hell is that going help you when your on a single lane road, you come around a corner on a rise into a lane full of oil?
//Twice to date, one the scenario above the other was the infamous left hand turn.  Being alert was the difference between bruised and angry vs dead.
 
2014-07-15 04:18:11 PM  

Slayinit: rynthetyn:

Vanity isn't really a great excuse for permanent brain injury. Buy yourself a proper full face helmet so that paramedics aren't left scraping your brains off the sidewalk.

Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?


I ride faster than you on a naked sportbike and wear an XL helmet - you're a serious weenie if the sad little buffeting you get at speeds under 100mph cause neck pain.  Hell, I've got osteoarthritis in my giraffe-like neck, and I manage to race just fine.

But in a more empathetic tone, I can make a useful suggestion: look on the net for neck exercises.  They're easy, quick, painless and really do help build those muscles you're lacking.

Or you could, ya know, just ride with the helmet and those muscles will get stronger naturally...

But hey, if you don't mind being made 'tarded, or being sent into a coma from the slightest crash, that's your decision.  Could be like the guy who was killed a couple miles down the road from me this past weekend.  Novelty helmet, low speed, did a header into a car emerging from a parking lot and was dead shortly thereafter.

Your life.  Your family that has to live with your decisions.  Your business.
 
2014-07-15 04:28:40 PM  
Because seriously, get a good lid...

Percentage of head strike locations...

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2014-07-15 04:42:41 PM  

Slayinit: rynthetyn: Slayinit: rynthetyn:

What helmet are using? Decent helmets have good aerodynamics, and in any case, a sore neck is better than trying to function with a traumatic brain injury.

A Shoei & an AFX. The AFX one was pretty cheap which lead me to by the Shoei. It's a nice helmet but at XXL (I'm 5'10" 175 lbs - Joe Farking Average except for the melon head) it really gets tiring on long rides.

I could buy a windshield. I could get a safer bike & gear. Hell, I could give up riding altogether! But the danger & risk-taking is a big part of the fun...for me, at least. For the summer my "Made in Pakistan - Use at Your Own Risk" labeled XXL 'helmet' works for me.

And I do appreciate the concern. Thank you.


There's risk taking and then there's being reckless for no good reason. Riding in a helmet that probably won't even protect you from kicked up road debris is the latter. What you're doing is turning accidents that you could walk away from with a few bruises into your family planning your funeral.
 
2014-07-15 04:51:56 PM  

rynthetyn: Riding in a helmet that probably won't even protect you from kicked up road debris is the latter.


Lest we forget the cliche'.  Although I do not buy this cheap of a helmet like I used too, this is my own old helmet photographed after a 30 minute commute in a rural area.
/Cheap but still DOT rated.
//Now I lean toward ECE rated.
 
2014-07-15 04:59:44 PM  
Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?


Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.
 
2014-07-15 05:03:12 PM  

Kuroshin: Slayinit: rynthetyn:

I ride faster than you on a naked sportbike and wear an XL helmet - you're a serious weenie if the sad little buffeting you get at speeds under 100mph cause neck pain.  Hell, I've got osteoarthritis in my giraffe-like neck, and I manage to race just fine.

But in a more empathetic tone, I can make a useful suggestion: look on the net for neck exercises.  They're easy, quick, painless and really do help build those muscles you're lacking.

Or you could, ya know, just ride with the helmet and those muscles will get stronger naturally...

But hey, if you don't mind being made 'tarded, or being sent into a coma from the slightest crash, that's your decision.  Could be like the guy who was killed a couple miles down the road from me this past weekend.  Novelty helmet, low speed, did a header into a car emerging from a parking lot and was dead shortly thereafter.

Your life.  Your family that has to live with your decisions.  Your business.


Wow, you sound angry because I don't do things your way. But I'm glad you understand. It's my life and these are my decisions. I can deal with them just fine.
 
2014-07-15 05:09:07 PM  
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2014-07-15 05:15:27 PM  

moike: Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?

Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.


Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?? Kindly spare some of your collective concerns for the skateboarders, the heavy drinkers (and drivers) the smokers, the surfers & skydivers, the drug abusers, the firefighters, the mountain climbers & SCUBA divers, the racers, the skiers, the texters, the bull runners and...people who sit at work all day, etc.

I own 2 bikes & neither are slightly used. But by all means, let the circle jerk of smug continue. Maybe you'll feel better about your safe little life.
 
2014-07-15 05:18:14 PM  

Repo Man: Something like that might have helped this guy. But probably not, the person that hit him was most likely looking at their phone instead of the road ahead.


Loved the view of the sky through his feet.
 
2014-07-15 05:32:32 PM  

fst_creeper: I also added additional turn indicating LED'


Well, then you'd be the 0.00000000^A% of riders that actually use turn indicators
 
2014-07-15 06:06:18 PM  

Slayinit: Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?


There are four levels driving this.

Level 1:  We hate seeing other riders go down.  Serious buzzkill.  By and large you are "one of us" and we hate to see anyone in the community be lost.

Level 2:  Every time a rider dies or is maimed and not properly geared up it tends to get thrown back on the whole community and hurts the entire community.  It's not fair, but it's true.

Level 3:  Actuary tables.  You split your skull open because you don't wear gear (and or ride like a squid) and it effects my insurance rates.

Level 4.  History.  A) We've probably put (I certainly have) our bikes down and either got hurt and survived or had our gear let us walk away or B) been theone who lived when someone you know did not (Sadly I've been this one too) where we had to face either our grief or the grief of the riders loved ones and really did not enjoy the experience.

/gooble gobble
 
2014-07-15 06:07:02 PM  

Slayinit: moike: Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?

Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.

Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?? Kindly spare some of your collective concerns for the skateboarders, the heavy drinkers (and drivers) the smokers, the surfers & skydivers, the drug abusers, the firefighters, the mountain climbers & SCUBA divers, the racers, the skiers, the texters, the bull runners and...people who sit at work all day, etc.

I own 2 bikes & neither are slightly used. But by all means, let the circle jerk of smug continue. Maybe you'll feel better about your safe little life.


Because I was on this when a drunk blew a stop sign at 9AM and turned left across my path.

moike.net

I hit the drivers side quarter panel of his '73 Ford Pickup truck at 45 mph with enough force that the sheer impact of my body against the left side front wheel broke a tie-rod and A arm.

Four of my bones were exposed to the light of day, I had other dislocations and breaks, but thanks to the high quality helmet that I destroyed in the process my head was unscathed and I didn't even suffer so much as a mild concussion.

I spent six months in a wheelchair and over a year of recovery after that.  But I've owned dozens of motorcycles since then, I still race motorcycles/weird dangerous shiat.  And I play full contact roller derby.

And I do so with the best gear I can afford because between bouncing off a truck on a Vespa and the many times I've bounced down race tracks and watched asphalt grind against my chinbar I know that gear works.  And it can mean the difference between a bunch of broken bones and some recovery time, and death or becoming a ward of the State.

Call a mfgr and get a helmet that fits properly.  Your neck muscles will learn how to deal with the fatigue.  I ride my Ducati Monster all day every day with a motorcross helmet on, no neck issues.
 
2014-07-15 06:07:29 PM  

Watubi: fst_creeper: I also added additional turn indicating LED'

Well, then you'd be the 0.00000000^A% of riders that actually use turn indicators


In my experience most do, but the ones that don't are the ones you remember.
 
2014-07-15 06:14:23 PM  

moike: Because I was on this when a drunk blew a stop sign at 9AM and turned left across my path.


Make it 5:00PM, change the drunk for a entitled biscuit head, and I had the same thing happen.  I was luckier than you in that it was a smaller car and I got just enough warning to dump the rear brakes (rare time where locking up was a good thing).  I merely flipped across the hood.  Cracked ribs, bruised spleen and one hell of a collection of bruises on my legs.  Helmet was trashed on the impact with the pavement on the opposite side tho.

/Cops where right behind me and not pleased with the driver.
//Damn Saturn didn't even have the decency to have a dent on the fender.
/// Hood was interesting looking afterwards tho'.
 
2014-07-15 06:19:34 PM  

moike: Slayinit: moike: Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?

Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.

Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?? Kindly spare some of your collective concerns for the skateboarders, the heavy drinkers (and drivers) the smokers, the surfers & skydivers, the drug abusers, the firefighters, the mountain climbers & SCUBA divers, the racers, the skiers, the texters, the bull runners and...people who sit at work all day, etc.

I own 2 bikes & neither are slightly used. But by all means, let the circle jerk of smug continue. Maybe you'll feel better about your safe little life.

Because I was on this when a drunk blew a stop sign at 9AM and turned left across my path.

[moike.net image 850x812]

I hit the drivers side quarter panel of his '73 Ford Pickup truck at 45 mph with enough force that the sheer impact of my body against the left side front wheel broke a tie-rod and A arm.

Four of my bones were exposed to the light of day, I had other dislocations and breaks, but thanks to the high quality helmet that I destroyed in the process my head was unscathed and I didn't even suffer so much as a mild concussion.

I spent six months in a wheelchair and over a year of recovery after that.  But I've owned dozens of motorcycles since then, I still race motorcycles/weird dangerous shiat.  And I play full contact roller derby.

And I do so with the best gear I can afford because b ...


Damn. I miss my P200.
/stolen
 
2014-07-15 06:22:39 PM  

moike: Because I was on this


I'm always a little speechless when I hit the "I ride a scooter because they are safer than motorcycles" mentality.  And FWIW, I'm not talking about you.
 
2014-07-15 07:11:12 PM  

fst_creeper: moike: Because I was on this

I'm always a little speechless when I hit the "I ride a scooter because they are safer than motorcycles" mentality.  And FWIW, I'm not talking about you.


Any time someone says, "How hurt could you get on a scooter putting around town?" the response from all my friends is, "Ask Moike..."

/
The force required to totally shatter the headstock and handlebars on that Vespa?
//Yeah, I applied it using crotch.
 
2014-07-15 07:18:50 PM  

moike: Slayinit: moike: Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?

Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.

Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?? Kindly spare some of your collective concerns for the skateboarders, the heavy drinkers (and drivers) the smokers, the surfers & skydivers, the drug abusers, the firefighters, the mountain climbers & SCUBA divers, the racers, the skiers, the texters, the bull runners and...people who sit at work all day, etc.

I own 2 bikes & neither are slightly used. But by all means, let the circle jerk of smug continue. Maybe you'll feel better about your safe little life.

Because I was on this when a drunk blew a stop sign at 9AM and turned left across my path.

[moike.net image 850x812]

I hit the drivers side quarter panel of his '73 Ford Pickup truck at 45 mph with enough force that the sheer impact of my body against the left side front wheel broke a tie-rod and A arm.

Four of my bones were exposed to the light of day, I had other dislocations and breaks, but thanks to the high quality helmet that I destroyed in the process my head was unscathed and I didn't even suffer so much as a mild concussion.

I spent six months in a wheelchair and over a year of recovery after that.  But I've owned dozens of motorcycles since then, I still race motorcycles/weird dangerous shiat.  And I play full contact roller derby.

And I do so with the best gear I can afford because b ...


I take no joy in watching anyone go down - unless they're shiatty human beings. Even then it's not joyful. That really stinks you took a hit like that & I'm glad your gear protected you. FWIW, I've spent the past hour or so looking online at some new helmets & gloves. Maybe this thread is a wake up for me.

/Kumbaya
 
2014-07-15 07:19:18 PM  

Watubi: fst_creeper: I also added additional turn indicating LED'

Well, then you'd be the 0.00000000^A% of riders that actually use turn indicators


I ride a 1976 honda without turn signals so your argument is invalid
 
2014-07-15 07:33:28 PM  
Does the gear protect you from all the embarrassment of riding a scooter?

3.bp.blogspot.com

\Someone had to do it
 
2014-07-15 07:35:13 PM  

moike: Slayinit: moike: Slayinit:  Well, it is part vanity - I'll admit to that. But it's also aerodynamics. I have 2 full-faced helmets (1 DOT & 1 Snell) for cold/wet weather but anything over 50 MPH and my neck is sore for days afterwards. My bike doesn't have a windshield.

Besides, if they're scraping my brains up there's probably other bits that'll need scraping, too. In for penny, right?

Mind if I sent you a few business cards to tape to the underside of your gas tank, under the seat, sidecovers, etc...

There is nothing I love more than buying lightly used motorcycle spares from a grieving SO/relatives for a serious discount.

Jesus Christ you people are relentless! Why does anyone care if I die in a bike wreck?? Kindly spare some of your collective concerns for the skateboarders, the heavy drinkers (and drivers) the smokers, the surfers & skydivers, the drug abusers, the firefighters, the mountain climbers & SCUBA divers, the racers, the skiers, the texters, the bull runners and...people who sit at work all day, etc.

I own 2 bikes & neither are slightly used. But by all means, let the circle jerk of smug continue. Maybe you'll feel better about your safe little life.

Because I was on this when a drunk blew a stop sign at 9AM and turned left across my path.

[moike.net image 850x812]

I hit the drivers side quarter panel of his '73 Ford Pickup truck at 45 mph with enough force that the sheer impact of my body against the left side front wheel broke a tie-rod and A arm.

Four of my bones were exposed to the light of day, I had other dislocations and breaks, but thanks to the high quality helmet that I destroyed in the process my head was unscathed and I didn't even suffer so much as a mild concussion.

I spent six months in a wheelchair and over a year of recovery after that.  But I've owned dozens of motorcycles since then, I still race motorcycles/weird dangerous shiat.  And I play full contact roller derby.

And I do so with the best gear I can afford because b ...


A Vespa? That's like taking one for the team.........

/ Or farking a fat chick - fun, but you don't want your friends to know
// Only kidding
/// My LeMans is almost ready for registration
 
2014-07-15 07:40:49 PM  

ol' gormsby: A Vespa? That's like taking one for the team.........

/ Or farking a fat chick - fun, but you don't want your friends to know
// Only kidding
/// My LeMans is almost ready for registration


My Vespa was awesome. Great ride if you live in a city. People don't seem to mind when you park a scooter on the sidewalk, but get pissed if it's a full sized motorcycle. Mine was covered in all the dumb Quadraphenia style chrome bullshiat and extra mirrors, headlights and horns.
What can I say? I was young and dumb.
 
2014-07-15 07:40:51 PM  
Lights on your helmet?

Hell, everyone knows what really saves lives are loud pipes.
 
2014-07-15 08:09:49 PM  
And regarding the subject of the article...

On my bicycle helmet I use lights from Light & Motion. The VIZ360. It does make you a hell of a lot more visible. I think this system is a good idea.
 
2014-07-15 08:18:30 PM  

Slayinit: Our traffic laws are so contradictory. I can be riding down the road in my multi airbag-equipped 3,500 lbs. sedan and get pulled over (and heavily fined) for not wearing my seat belt.  Conversely, I ride down the road on my motorcycle in shorts, a t-shirt and sneakers wearing a non DOT approved skid lid and the cops do nothing. I cannot really wear a true Snell or DOT helmet. Seriously, I have a huge noggin. I'm like a bobble head.

CSB - My girlfriend does not like the fact that I wear this skin-thin brain bucket. So I took her helmet shopping (and to the shoe store & to lunch - I'm not that big of an idiot) and put on the the DOT helmets that fit me. I gave her this "See? This is why I don't wear a proper helmet" look & she started guffawing to the point where other customers looked and started smirking themselves. She called me The Great Gazoo and now she understands why I wear the skid lid.


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fark yes. I'd rather not-look-silly than save my farking life. Great priorities.  It's not like they make a billion styles or anything.

Also, if they had one in stock that fit you, your head isn't particularly large, bud.  But I'm glad you choose to farking eat shiat and die rather than 'look silly'. I hope your wife and kids appreciate how cool you look.

As for the rest: it's assumed risk. It's why you have a separate licensing system for motorcycles, which includes different testing parameters, and why some states mandate a 12 hour training course.  The assumption is that you understand the risks and take them willingly since it's impossible to safety up a motorcycle. You can't put in belts, since that would increase damage/risk. You can't put in bags, since you separate from the bike in a fall. What would you recommend doing?

On a motorcycle, it's prohibitive to inspect safety gear; how do you standardize it? Are textiles ok, or do we insist on full leather. What about full single-suits? Jacket/pants combos? What about boots? Do we want to insist on Snell, or DOT helmets? Both?  Do we have a universal tracking system in place with bar code scanners? How do we prevent 'look alike' products, how do we verify that a product is 'legal' and not simply a good similarity but fake? For that matter, how do we know that something which looks 'fake' isn't real (aka armored jeans, etc.)?  In Texas, you can't be pulled over to determine if your helmet is a valid helmet (which is odd since you can't be pulled over to determine if you're legally allowed to ride without a helmet, which is a choice you can make once you have a legal license...).  And once we standardize all of that, what price point do we mandate? Equipment comes in a lot of variety for different riding purposes, from track gear, down to 'padded underwear'. Each has a different performance variable on armor and padding at a different price point, and has to be fitted to the customer. I'm short and farking fat, I'd kill someone if I had to wear leather pants.

Even the auto industry doesn't require air bags; it's legally only required to have seat belts.
 
2014-07-15 08:55:31 PM  
Let's all remember the words of that great American 20th-century philosopher, Jerome Seinfeld:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgOUgrOHuFc

//Full face helmet (red), armored jacket (fluorescent yellow), boots, & gloves on every ride.
 
2014-07-15 11:51:12 PM  
Every time I put on makeup I'm reminded of just how lucky I am that the scar from this is the worst injury I got from riding with a half helmet. If I hadn't been wearing glasses and a pollution mask my face would have been torn up.

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2014-07-16 10:00:09 AM  

Repo Man: Something like that might have helped this guy. But probably not, the person that hit him was most likely looking at their phone instead of the road ahead.


This. I can't even count how many times in a single ride I see soccer mom twunts and power worker bee jack offs glued to their gizmos. They are the people I fear:

They (randomly) speed up and slow down

They can barely stay in their lane

They make crazy (often unsignaled) turns

They blow through yellow / red lights

and much (much, MUCH) more...

Seriously people, just drive.
 
2014-07-16 12:07:32 PM  

Slayinit: FWIW, I've spent the past hour or so looking online at some new helmets & gloves. Maybe this thread is a wake up for me.


Bell helmets, friend. I have a large-ish head and I've found Bell to have the most comfortable helmets. They're high rated and affordable, too. Icon has been the least comfortable for me.

Try the Bell Vortex and Star series. My Vortex Flying Tiger was $180.

Never trust sizing. Always try on the helmet. My old Bell was a XL. my new helmet is an L. Even among the same company the helmets will fit a little different with the same size listing.

Small and medium helmets use the same outer shell with different padding on the inside. Large, XL, and XXL all use the same outer shell with different padding on the inside. Something to keep in mind.

Also, get a new helmet after the current one is 5 years after it's manufacturer date. There will be a sticker or clock molding on the inside. They do have a lifespan and get weaker over time. An old helmet can and will split like a watermelon on impact. Some people say 10 years but I go by the other saying of 5 just to be safe.

Get armored leather gloves. Leather with hard plastic over the knuckles and padding on the palm and tops of the fingers. My gloves were $35 and are awesome.
 
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