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2014-07-14 11:53:54 PM  
Why do all food "rules" come in the form "<food> is bad" or "<food> is good"?  Are fatties incapable of understanding anything more nuanced than that?
 
2014-07-15 12:09:29 AM  
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2014-07-15 12:31:11 AM  
I'll just keep biking every day, and eating what I damn well feel like, thanks.
 
2014-07-15 01:55:10 AM  
OMG JUST EAT REAL FOOD lN MODERATlON AND GET OFF YER ARSE!!!!!
 
2014-07-15 02:34:46 AM  
Just ask this Daily Fail Scientician:

simpsonsscreenshots.com

UH.......
 
2014-07-15 03:23:20 AM  

dookdookdook: Why do all food "rules" come in the form "<food> is bad" or "<food> is good"?  Are fatties incapable of understanding anything more nuanced than that?


No, but the average Daily Mail writer has no understanding of science and statistics (much less how to read a scientific paper). You're lucky if they even read the abstract of a paper before writing their "X causes cancer" headlines.
 
2014-07-15 04:00:17 AM  
I'm still trying to figure out if bread is good or bad
 
2014-07-15 04:04:03 AM  
Just avoid processed foods and you can't really go too far wrong.
 
2014-07-15 04:08:16 AM  
I've always been a strong believer in the genetic heritage/blood-type combination diet. Each person's would ideally be customized for his or herself.

/not citing anything
//believe what you will
 
2014-07-15 04:11:05 AM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: [i291.photobucket.com image 360x297]


You know, I don't think Idiocracy even went so far as to suggest that corporations are people.
 
2014-07-15 04:20:18 AM  
img.fark.net
Top scientist...
 
2014-07-15 04:24:35 AM  
Okay, let's go down the list shall we...

Eat unripe bananas
The whole of the world (at least the US) already eats unripe bananas. The crap you get in the store that's all nice and yellow? Yeah, that's not ripe quite yet. Wait until they've developed almost a cheetah-like spottage on the peel and then you've got a ripe one.

Don't mash your potatoes
Oh go sit on it... Yes by pureeing the living hell out of them you could rupture the cell walls and release more of their sugars, but a regular old mash job isn't going to be able to do something like that unless done to oblivion. And even then you're not going to be rupturing many of them. The problem is where you overcook them to the point they start falling apart by themselves I'd wager. Do that and you're already partway there to the cell walls breaking down due to the cooking.

Add water when you fry
You're a sociopath who gets off on watching fires and people get burned aren't you... A scant amount of water isn't really going to do jack shiat to the frying temp of oil besides make a splattering mess as the water nearly instantly evaporates. You want to do healthier frying? Use an oil with a high smoking point like peanut oil and cook at 375°F, WITH A THERMOMETER.

Drink water to reduce back pain
Not touching this one since I have no knowledge to it. I'd wager at least some of it could be correct however, since we Americans seem to trend more towards sugary drinks than water.

Why you should beware of tofu
Well duh. Anyone who's watched Futurama knows going solely off tofu as a 'meat' source is insane. And it's true that a ton of the vegetarian recipes I've seen that call for tofu this and that typically just use it to toss in a marinade or something and throw it in with some vegetables or whatever. But this applies to the people who eat tofu for every meal, not the occasional "Oh, I think I'll have the pho today" type crowds.

Eat like a Masai tribesman
I smell the new Paleo Diet trend attempting to be started.

The real danger of smoothies
Yeah. Yeah... Smoothies are the enemy here... You straight out say it has to do with fructose and HFCS, which isn't limited to smoothies in the slightest. In fact I'd wager you'd get a much larger blast of them just from continuing to drink that pop there. Least with the occasional smoothie you're also getting dairy and fruit (so long as it's not one of those premade "artificial flavorings" crap ones).

Know What To Eat, by Dr Laurence Booth and Professor Rodney Bilton, is published by Supercritical (£9.99). See iamnotlinkingyourstupidsite.com
Who didn't see one of these coming?
 
2014-07-15 04:27:08 AM  

Oysterman: I'm still trying to figure out if bread is good or bad


Bread will kill your family as you sleep and rape your pets.

I ate a bread roll once.....

/once
//my poor family
///Fido never got over it either
 
2014-07-15 04:27:15 AM  

Oysterman: I'm still trying to figure out if bread is good or bad


Well, people say that white bread is bad for you because it's empty calories blah blah blah, but if this article is to be believed, whole grain breads with lots of fiber and magic satiation ability seem like they would be ok.

Oh how I long for the days when we were cave-people, occasionally venturing out to hunt the wild, wily wheat stalk in its unmolested, native lands. We'd eat it from top to bottom and our bowels would scream about its slow digestion, but when we took our ancient craps, our even more ancient ancestors' rectums smiled upon us.
 
2014-07-15 04:37:15 AM  
I've never seen a Twinkie cough...
 
2014-07-15 04:41:05 AM  

telaran: Oysterman: I'm still trying to figure out if bread is good or bad

Well, people say that white bread is bad for you because it's empty calories blah blah blah, but if this article is to be believed, whole grain breads with lots of fiber and magic satiation ability seem like they would be ok.

Oh how I long for the days when we were cave-people, occasionally venturing out to hunt the wild, wily wheat stalk in its unmolested, native lands. We'd eat it from top to bottom and our bowels would scream about its slow digestion, but when we took our ancient craps, our even more ancient ancestors' rectums smiled upon us.


Nice visual there, guy. I'm now picturing goatse with with a pair of eyes and a smile. You're all welcome.
 
2014-07-15 04:43:12 AM  
Peki: Thanks for the meme-ries: [i291.photobucket.com image 360x297]
You know, I don't think Idiocracy even went so far as to suggest that corporations are people.


img.fark.net

The original ending of Soylent Green was more prescient, but lacked punch.
 
2014-07-15 04:47:34 AM  
gggoddammitt:

Nice visual there, guy. I'm now picturing goatse with with a pair of eyes and a smile. You're all welcome.

Threat of ancestral goatse-face might be a good diet motivator.
 
2014-07-15 04:48:28 AM  

Iczer: The real danger of smoothies
Yeah. Yeah... Smoothies are the enemy here... You straight out say it has to do with fructose and HFCS, which isn't limited to smoothies in the slightest. In fact I'd wager you'd get a much larger blast of them just from continuing to drink that pop there. Least with the occasional smoothie you're also getting dairy and fruit (so long as it's not one of those premade "artificial flavorings" crap ones).


Why would there be any HFCS in smoothies anyway? I typically put fresh or frozen fruit in mine. And for fark's sake, throw in a few vegetables. Broccoli or celery, or even cucumber. They are basically water so they don't change the flavor much. Do people like, make smoothies out of jelly or something?
 
2014-07-15 04:53:22 AM  
Eating is very simple. The least steps from the ground to your mouth the better. No processed foods, sugar is not a staple, not saturated fats nor transfats, otherwise fat is okay, more than okay you need it, drink only water, tea, or coffee, no milk nor sweetener added only a few drops of lemon if you wish.

So basically, grains, nuts, fruits, vegetable, fish, pork, chicken, and beef (not everyday) is part of a well balanced diet. Eat as varied of those food as you want and you'll be healthier than the rest of the morons that think that you need only eat one particular way. You are literally evolved to eat just about anything the good Earth provides, you are the mighty monkey.
 
2014-07-15 04:55:10 AM  
I'm distrustful of almost everything I read on the internet, especially what comes from the Daily Mail, but at least It's not some "cleanse toxins" bollocks, it's a rather plain list of info about carbs, fats and protein. Ultimately though I'm just going to re-state this gem

ginandbacon: OMG JUST EAT REAL FOOD lN MODERATlON AND GET OFF YER ARSE!!!!!


because that's all there is to it.
 
2014-07-15 04:57:17 AM  

pippi longstocking: Eating is very simple. The least steps from the ground to your mouth the better. No processed foods, sugar is not a staple, not saturated fats nor transfats, otherwise fat is okay, more than okay you need it, drink only water, tea, or coffee, no milk nor sweetener added only a few drops of lemon if you wish.

So basically, grains, nuts, fruits, vegetable, fish, pork, chicken, and beef (not everyday) is part of a well balanced diet. Eat as varied of those food as you want and you'll be healthier than the rest of the morons that think that you need only eat one particular way. You are literally evolved to eat just about anything the good Earth provides, you are the mighty monkey.


Nothing wrong with milk.
 
2014-07-15 04:59:26 AM  
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2014-07-15 05:08:16 AM  
Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.
 
2014-07-15 05:19:38 AM  
Iczer:

Eat like a Masai tribesman
I smell the new Paleo Diet trend attempting to be started.


So blood and sour whole milk further curdled with urine. The occasional Big Hunk of Cow and weird, nasty plants with no English names that just happen to fill up the deficiencies in that diet. I'll pass.
 
2014-07-15 05:21:50 AM  

pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.


Europeans and many Africans and Central Asians have evolved adult lactose tolerance. That means milk is inherently EASY for them to digest.  In Colonial New England apple pie, cheese and milk where the Winter staples for thousands.
 
2014-07-15 05:30:36 AM  

anuran: pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.

Europeans and many Africans and Central Asians have evolved adult lactose tolerance. That means milk is inherently EASY for them to digest.  In Colonial New England apple pie, cheese and milk where the Winter staples for thousands.


You have it backwards. Milk is very hard to digest so ancient people made it into cheese and yoghourt which are easier to digest and store. Over time we developed the ability (actually a mutation) that allowed us to process lactose more efficiently, although for many it still remains hard to digest if not impossible. I'm not saying it's bad, so please stop trolling me, it's good for you in moderation, and the younger you are the more you should drink. Now go chug that gallon of milk your stupid fat ass wants so bad and feel good about it.
 
2014-07-15 05:32:22 AM  

pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.


If you're lactose intolerant, but not everyone is.
 
2014-07-15 05:34:54 AM  

pippi longstocking: anuran: pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.

Europeans and many Africans and Central Asians have evolved adult lactose tolerance. That means milk is inherently EASY for them to digest.  In Colonial New England apple pie, cheese and milk where the Winter staples for thousands.

You have it backwards. Milk is very hard to digest so ancient people made it into cheese and yoghourt which are easier to digest and store. Over time we developed the ability (actually a mutation) that allowed us to process lactose more efficiently, although for many it still remains hard to digest if not impossible. I'm not saying it's bad, so please stop trolling me, it's good for you in moderation, and the younger you are the more you should drink. Now go chug that gallon of milk your stupid fat ass wants so bad and feel good about it.


Yes, correcting your misleading statement is "trolling"?
 
2014-07-15 05:45:08 AM  
As Michael Pollan says, "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants."
 
2014-07-15 05:52:55 AM  
Finally, I can be unashamed to admit that I loathe ripe bananas.  I'll be at the store, trying to find the greenest of the green bananas, and some busybody will point out the riper ones.  Now, I can proudly point them to the Daily Fail for education.

Well, maybe not the Daily Fail, but uh, I'll think of something pithy to say.
 
2014-07-15 06:12:46 AM  

pippi longstocking: anuran: pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.

Europeans and many Africans and Central Asians have evolved adult lactose tolerance. That means milk is inherently EASY for them to digest.  In Colonial New England apple pie, cheese and milk where the Winter staples for thousands.

You have it backwards. Milk is very hard to digest so ancient people made it into cheese and yoghourt which are easier to digest and store. Over time we developed the ability (actually a mutation) that allowed us to process lactose more efficiently, although for many it still remains hard to digest if not impossible. I'm not saying it's bad, so please stop trolling me, it's good for you in moderation, and the younger you are the more you should drink. Now go chug that gallon of milk your stupid fat ass wants so bad and feel good about it.


Reading comprehension is not your strong point, is it? That's exactly what he said.
 
2014-07-15 06:37:28 AM  

pippi longstocking: Eating is very simple. The least steps from the ground to your mouth the better. No processed foods, sugar is not a staple, not saturated fats nor transfats, otherwise fat is okay, more than okay you need it, drink only water, tea, or coffee, no milk nor sweetener added only a few drops of lemon if you wish.

So basically, grains, nuts, fruits, vegetable, fish, pork, chicken, and beef (not everyday) is part of a well balanced diet. Eat as varied of those food as you want and you'll be healthier than the rest of the morons that think that you need only eat one particular way. You are literally evolved to eat just about anything the good Earth provides, you are the mighty monkey.


Beer, you forgot beer.
 
2014-07-15 06:44:40 AM  

pippi longstocking: anuran: pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.

Europeans and many Africans and Central Asians have evolved adult lactose tolerance. That means milk is inherently EASY for them to digest.  In Colonial New England apple pie, cheese and milk where the Winter staples for thousands.

You have it backwards. Milk is very hard to digest so ancient people made it into cheese and yoghourt which are easier to digest and store. Over time we developed the ability (actually a mutation) that allowed us to process lactose more efficiently, although for many it still remains hard to digest if not impossible. I'm not saying it's bad, so please stop trolling me, it's good for you in moderation, and the younger you are the more you should drink. Now go chug that gallon of milk your stupid fat ass wants so bad and feel good about it.


So you're suggesting ancient dieticians made cheese and yogurt to stop people getting flatulence, rather than as a way to preserve an important food source over long periods of time and in hot climates?
 
2014-07-15 06:46:36 AM  
Green bananas, along with whole grains, vegetables and fibre, all contain resistant starch.
 Resistant starch is a carbohydrate but, unlike other carbs, its chemical make-up means that it does not cause your blood sugar to rise, so is not a risk for diabetes and it also doesn't cause sugar-crash hunger pangs after eating. It also has another slimming advantage in that it stimulates the release of a hormone, glucagon, which boosts the rate at which our bodies burn fat.


Glucagon also causes your blood sugar to rise, so does that mean it's a draw?
 
2014-07-15 06:57:24 AM  
a whole article on food without the word "toxins" in it.
 
2014-07-15 07:13:53 AM  

ko_kyi: a whole article on food without the word "toxins" in it.


psst... they're trying to get you to buy something.  Unless of course... you already bought it.
 
2014-07-15 07:18:16 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: pippi longstocking: Slaxl:

Nothing wrong with milk.

If you're a child, otherwise it has too many calories and it's inherently hard to digest. Not that you should avoid it, but don't treat it as a staple, it shouldn't be unless you're a child.

If you're lactose intolerant, but not everyone is.


I love it when outliers chime in.

Medical Dr.:  Everyone should walk at least a half hour a day.
Outlier:  But I have no legs!!!!!
Medical Dr.:  I wasn't referring to you asshole now shut up and play second base.
 
2014-07-15 07:27:46 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: dookdookdook: Why do all food "rules" come in the form "<food> is bad" or "<food> is good"?  Are fatties incapable of understanding anything more nuanced than that?

No, but the average Daily Mail writer has no understanding of science and statistics (much less how to read a scientific paper). You're lucky if they even read the abstract of a paper before writing their "X causes cancer" headlines.


I wasn't aware daily mail writers were liberals.
 
2014-07-15 07:30:49 AM  
Glucagon also causes your blood sugar to rise, so does that mean it's a draw?

Glucagon is the hormone the pancreas releases into the blood stream that causes cells containing sugars to release them. When your blood sugar count is low the pancreas releases glucagon. When the blood sugar count is high the pancreas releases insulin. The two hormones are responsible for either storing sugars into cells making you fat, or releasing sugars from cells making you not as rotund. It's all about the current level of the sugars travelling around in the blood stream.
 
2014-07-15 07:50:05 AM  

pippi longstocking: Eating is very simple. The least steps from the ground to your mouth the better. No processed foods, sugar is not a staple, not saturated fats nor transfats, otherwise fat is okay, more than okay you need it, drink only water, tea, or coffee, no milk nor sweetener added only a few drops of lemon if you wish.

So basically, grains, nuts, fruits, vegetable, fish, pork, chicken, and beef (not everyday) is part of a well balanced diet. Eat as varied of those food as you want and you'll be healthier than the rest of the morons that think that you need only eat one particular way. You are literally evolved to eat just about anything the good Earth provides, you are the mighty monkey.


You can't eat pork, chicken and beef without eating saturated fat. Hell, that's pretty much what bacon is comprised of. And no, you don't need fat per se. People can go on a mountain dew diet and get plenty fat. Your body can make it just fine on its own. The exception is the omega -3's. We don't have enzimes to chop lipids that short. But we only require a scant amount. Otherwise we don't need fats. Life without eating fat would be pretty boring though.
 
2014-07-15 07:52:14 AM  

Iczer: Eat like a Masai tribesman
I smell the new Paleo Diet trend attempting to be started.


You may be interested in buying my new book the "NeoPaleo Experience!"  I'm also available for lectures and don't forget to visit my website.
 
2014-07-15 07:55:50 AM  
Number one rule for eating healthy?

Don't listen to bullshiat ads for books masquerading as a news article.

Even if some of the advice is pretty good.

//Yes, several points in the advertisement confirmed my preexisting biases.
 
2014-07-15 08:02:33 AM  
A top scientist has lots of surprises

A Top. Scientist.

If you're taking your eating advice from an advertisement planted in the Daily Fail you've already pretty much given up on your whole life anyway, so it's not like there's that much more damage it could do, I suppose.
 
2014-07-15 08:09:03 AM  
"...fermenting in the colon". Now, how could anyone not like that.
 
2014-07-15 08:15:35 AM  
Meh.  Ride my bike lots, eat whatever I want.  Stay the same weight.

/lots > 600 miles or 35 hours/month
 
2014-07-15 08:30:36 AM  

Mose: Meh.  Ride my bike lots, eat whatever I want.  Stay the same weight.

/lots > 600 miles or 35 hours/month


Mose definitely!
 
2014-07-15 08:30:41 AM  
This whole olive oil and cooking thing pisses me off.  I understand some oils smoke lower than others, but any recipes I read, shows I listen to or watch, always still use olive oil for cooking.  So is it not a big deal? Or are all those people unaware of this issue?

I feel like peanut oil is too flavorful too.
 
2014-07-15 08:30:50 AM  
My takeaway from this is to swallow potatoes whole.
 
2014-07-15 08:36:41 AM  
"The feeling of hunger following a meal high in protein and fat returns much more slowly than with other diets because fat and protein are digested more slowly and remain in the stomach for longer. Simple."

Once again I'll point out that people don't become obese because they ate when they were hungry. You get overweight because you eat when you're NOT hungry. You eat when you're bored or depressed, you eat out of habit because it's lunch time regardless of hunger. You eat because something simply "looks good". You also get that way from overeating when you do eat, making three trips through the buffet line despite the first plate full being more than enough.

If people only ate when they felt actual hunger very few would be overweight.
 
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