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(News.com.au)   Aussies look in to charging commuters for every kilometer they drive. That's 2 1/2 miles to you yanks   (news.com.au) divider line 131
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2014-07-14 02:40:36 PM  
Math, do you speak it?
 
2014-07-14 02:42:13 PM  
Wow. That's what I call a bargain.
 
2014-07-14 02:58:30 PM  
Wait.
People who have long commutes because they live in the periphery - because they can't afford to live closer - will now pay more to commute to work?
Brilliant!

(See what happens when you put right-wingers in charge, Aussies? Regressive taxation.)
 
2014-07-14 03:05:26 PM  
Wait... I thought that was 15 hogsheads?
 
2014-07-14 03:51:33 PM  
Of course charging a gas tax makes a lot more sense, but a gas tax won't keep track of the location of every vehicle in the country on a real time basis.

This approach makes George Orwell proud.
 
2014-07-14 04:17:33 PM  
2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer
 
2014-07-14 04:19:17 PM  
I didn't realize Salzburg traffic had reached such nightmarish levels
 
2014-07-14 04:38:59 PM  

StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer


In EVERY kilometer? Do you mean to tell me you checked ALL of them?

Pfft. This guy over here, eh.
 
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2014-07-14 05:36:46 PM  

StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer


I think subby was trolling.
 
2014-07-14 05:40:37 PM  

wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.


Or bad at maths
 
2014-07-14 05:40:38 PM  

wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.


Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.
 
2014-07-14 05:42:26 PM  
It's about farking time.

It should have a sliding scale based on mileage too. Anything below 10 MPG, double the fee.
 
2014-07-14 05:42:33 PM  

wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.


Subby certainly was!  How dare he follow an infinitive with a gerund!
 
2014-07-14 05:42:53 PM  
Good. If they choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, but work on civilization, they should subsidize the environmental impacts of their driving.
 
2014-07-14 05:43:33 PM  
Yeah, but how many miles is in a Klem Kadiddleometer? And is it futher to Perth or a bicycle? I think we should be tole!
 
2014-07-14 05:45:52 PM  

highendmighty: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby certainly was!  How dare he follow an infinitive with a gerund!


When I see the word "gerund" I immidiately think of the companion ships in Tyrian.
 
2014-07-14 05:46:34 PM  
Oregon is also doing this, beginning in 2015. But with miles, not kilometers, of course. Coming to a state near you shortly thereafter.
 
2014-07-14 05:47:02 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Good. If they choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, but work on civilization, they should subsidize the environmental impacts of their driving.


Ain't subsidizing crap.

Hope they tack that fee onto public transit tickets too because roads in the city tend to be the worst.
 
2014-07-14 05:49:55 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Wait.
People who have long commutes because they live in the periphery - because they can't afford to live closer - will now pay more to commute to work?
Brilliant!

(See what happens when you put right-wingers in charge, Aussies? Regressive taxation.)


Huh? That is we already do in America with our excise tax. These new proposal are simply civilian tracking, privacy invading measure gussied up as tax reform.
 
2014-07-14 05:50:15 PM  

foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.


No. You double it and add thirty, you hoser!
 
2014-07-14 05:50:32 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: People who have long commutes because they live in the periphery - because they can't afford to live closer - will now pay more to commute to work?


In most countries, the cost of expanding suburbs and exhurbs are subsidized by people living closer to the urban core.
 
2014-07-14 05:51:11 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Of course charging a gas tax makes a lot more sense, but a gas tax won't keep track of the location of every vehicle in the country on a real time basis.

This approach makes George Orwell proud.


Also fuel efficiency improvements eat into revenue and we can't have that
 
2014-07-14 05:51:31 PM  
Those would be Austrian Kilometers, no?


foo monkey:

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.

*snort*
 
2014-07-14 05:52:01 PM  

foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.


Perhaps subby deliberately chose the cm:in conversion as a subtle dig at the ease of converting centimeters to kilometers compared to the conversion of inches to miles. Or subby's a moron.

// not subby
// just like to overthink things
 
2014-07-14 05:52:02 PM  

MontanaDave: foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.

No. You double it and add thirty, you hoser!


Not on every fortnight moon, you don't.
 
2014-07-14 05:52:17 PM  
That will keep your kangaroo down.
 
2014-07-14 05:53:15 PM  

foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.


No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty.  Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.
 
2014-07-14 05:53:35 PM  

wantingout: Oregon is also doing this, beginning in 2015. But with miles, not kilometers, of course. Coming to a state near you shortly thereafter.


So, driving in Oregon is 1/5th the cost?
 
2014-07-14 05:53:45 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Good. If they choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, but work on civilization, they should subsidize the environmental impacts of their driving.


Yeah, those concrete jungles are good for the enviroment.
 
2014-07-14 05:54:22 PM  
Just roll coal bruh
 
2014-07-14 05:55:59 PM  
Hmm, I wonder how much it would cost to drive from Salzburg to Vienna?
 
2014-07-14 05:57:52 PM  

uncleacid: That will keep your kangaroo down.


Who controls the british crown?
Who keeps the kangaroo down?
We dooooo We doooooooo
 
2014-07-14 05:57:55 PM  

Billy Liar: foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.

No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty.  Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.


How many Rhode Islands in a kilometer?
 
2014-07-14 05:59:45 PM  

GRCooper: Billy Liar: foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.

No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty.  Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.

How many Rhode Islands in a kilometer?


One is too many.
 
2014-07-14 06:01:11 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Good. If they choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, but work on civilization, they should subsidize the environmental impacts of their driving.


What if you live in the city and your job is out in the boonies? You it is a growing trend with companies these days to move their offices out of the cities and into the suburbs and the collar counties.
 
2014-07-14 06:01:37 PM  

GRCooper: Billy Liar: foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.

No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty.  Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.

How many Rhode Islands in a kilometer?


2 1/2
You haven't been paying attention.
 
2014-07-14 06:03:20 PM  
Thats 2.5 Austrailian miles in and Austrailian kilometer. Remember things are more bad a** in Austraila.
 
2014-07-14 06:05:02 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Of course charging a gas tax makes a lot more sense, but a gas tax won't keep track of the location of every vehicle in the country on a real time basis.

This approach makes George Orwell proud.


Here's the thing though... As MPG improves and electric cars become more widespread this is a trend which will inevitably be introduced everywhere. Gas taxes are usually used to fund road maintenance... so as technology reduces gas use - but not necessarily miles travelled (or at least not by the same amount) - the way road maintenance is funded will HAVE to change.

And a useage tax, which is what a mileage tax is, is the fairest way to replace the gas tax (which was a crude useage tax as it was). Drive more? Then you pay more. Drive less? Then you pay less.

Wherever you live it's only a matter of WHEN your mileage tax is introduced, not if.
 
2014-07-14 06:05:07 PM  

Billy Liar: No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty. Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.


www.btchflcks.com

Rule of Thumb?! In medieval times, it was legal for men to beat their wives as long as the rod was no bigger around than their thumb....

/I knew you pricks were going to give me trouble...
 
2014-07-14 06:07:04 PM  
Great. Thanks. Ya d*ckweeds.

Now every f*cking Big Goverbment politician in the States will be clamoring to slap recording boxes on our cars.

Fark you and every farking criminal you've sired ya farking pestilential canker sores
 
2014-07-14 06:07:56 PM  
How many parsecs in a Rhode Island?

/I was told there would be no math
 
2014-07-14 06:08:28 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Marcus Aurelius: Of course charging a gas tax makes a lot more sense, but a gas tax won't keep track of the location of every vehicle in the country on a real time basis.

This approach makes George Orwell proud.

Also fuel efficiency improvements eat into revenue and we can't have that

Then raise the gas tax when the average fleet mpg rises. Jeez, it doesn't have to be complicated.

Per-mile tolling is also going to put the screw to tourists. There's really no way for them to be charged directly and individually, which means the car rental companies are going to charge hefty "usage fees" to cover it.
 
2014-07-14 06:09:08 PM  

foo monkey: wee: StrikitRich: 2 1/2 miles?  Is that computed with 'Common Core' math?

There's almost 0.63 miles in a kilometer

I think subby was trolling.

Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles, not 2.5 miles.


2.2 miles troy, or 2.5 miles avoirdupois. Duh.
 
2014-07-14 06:09:33 PM  
Billy Liar:

No, the rule of thumb is to double it and add thirty.  Something that is six miles away (double it) is 12 + 30 = 42 kilometers.

F, I C
 
2014-07-14 06:09:43 PM  

foo monkey: Subby's a dumbass.  A kilometer is 2.2 miles


I have not read the rest of the thread, but I imagine it has gotten pretty embarrassing for you. Unless you're also trolling, then well done.
 
2014-07-14 06:10:16 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Great. Thanks. Ya d*ckweeds.

Now every f*cking Big Goverbment politician in the States will be clamoring to slap recording boxes on our cars.

Fark you and every farking criminal you've sired ya farking pestilential canker sores


I fart in your general direction.

/subby
 
2014-07-14 06:14:05 PM  

ongbok: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Good. If they choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, but work on civilization, they should subsidize the environmental impacts of their driving.

What if you live in the city and your job is out in the boonies? You it is a growing trend with companies these days to move their offices out of the cities and into the suburbs and the collar counties.


You could set it up so that if you drive more than x miles to work, you're subject to the tax.
 
2014-07-14 06:15:54 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Wait.
(See what happens when you put right-wingers in charge, Aussies? Regressive taxation.)


Only right-wingers impose regressive taxation??!?!?!. Obviously you have not heard of Martin O'Malley. Sales tax, gas tax, alcohol tax, cigarette tax...I could go on.
 
2014-07-14 06:16:30 PM  
Hey!  Lets charge the people who use the roads for the upkeep of the roads!

Sort of a value added product  Kg/Km  + a tax for the yearly polution caused.

I'm for it.

yes it shifts the costs and businesses will just pass the costs off to some other source of income.
It's almost a perfect concept since businesses will choose to use the least expencive forms of transportation, and try to put their manufacturing/warehousing as close to major markets as possible.  more concentration of population in Cities.  Less sprawl and pavement over local farms.
 
2014-07-14 06:17:02 PM  

ImpendingCynic: TheDirtyNacho: Marcus Aurelius: Of course charging a gas tax makes a lot more sense, but a gas tax won't keep track of the location of every vehicle in the country on a real time basis.

This approach makes George Orwell proud.

Also fuel efficiency improvements eat into revenue and we can't have that
Then raise the gas tax when the average fleet mpg rises. Jeez, it doesn't have to be complicated.

Per-mile tolling is also going to put the screw to tourists. There's really no way for them to be charged directly and individually, which means the car rental companies are going to charge hefty "usage fees" to cover it.


When half the cars are electric, the people still using gas have to pay for the freeloaders? A toll is the easiest way to directly charge the owner of a vehicle for using a section of road. Car rental companies just pass the tolls along to the customer with a fee on top.
 
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