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(Bay News 9)   Fifty years ago, a Florida town was founded to be a tax- and regulation-free "model community." Let's see how it's doing today   (baynews9.com) divider line 314
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2014-07-14 08:43:46 AM  
City leaders also want to put up more signs around the city limits so residents and passerbys know when they are entering the town.

Yes, your problem isn't crumbling infrastructure, no revenue base and the fact your town's charter was Ayn Rand spank bank fan fiction, your problem is clearly *branding*
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-07-14 08:46:39 AM  
Maybe a name change would help.

If Louisiana can have a town named Angola why can't there be a Somalia, FL?
 
2014-07-14 08:50:53 AM  
Here is the most important sentence of the entire article.

Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Cha-ching!
 
2014-07-14 08:50:59 AM  
It's like a low-rent Rapture, probably with meth tweakers as the Splicers.
 
2014-07-14 08:56:34 AM  
Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.
 
2014-07-14 08:59:25 AM  

BizarreMan: Here is the most important sentence of the entire article.

Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Cha-ching!


I think this is the most important sentence of the article:

"We tell people, 'I live in the Tyrone area,'" said resident Peggy Sinicrope. "I just don't tell people where I live. People don't take care of their homes, there's trash all over and no one seems to care."

When you can shift your externalities freely to your neighbors (by leaving garbage around and not taking care of your property) without a government to correct for those externalities, then people will simply choose to continue shifting externalities just because they can.
 
2014-07-14 09:00:26 AM  
It's almost like they are discovering why we have taxes and regulations.
 
2014-07-14 09:00:37 AM  
Let's see how it's doing today

FTFA:   Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

I'm gonna say, "Not great."
 
2014-07-14 09:03:09 AM  

EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.


I think it's called Vermont. Or Sweden.
 
2014-07-14 09:09:08 AM  

EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.


There was this one time, in Canada...
 
2014-07-14 09:19:07 AM  

BizarreMan: Here is the most important sentence of the entire article.

Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Cha-ching!



The town is already known as a speed trap, so they're just continuing a successful revenue model.
 
2014-07-14 09:27:41 AM  

WI241TH: EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.

There was this one time, in Canada...


That was really interesting. Thank you for posting.
 
2014-07-14 09:28:31 AM  
I bet that town's Unikitty is really pissed off.
 
2014-07-14 09:28:59 AM  

vpb: Maybe a name change would help.

If Louisiana can have a town named Angola why can't there be a Somalia, FL?


Angola is the location of the state penitentiary. It's not a town.
 
2014-07-14 09:33:46 AM  
Soooo, government bailout?
 
2014-07-14 09:47:41 AM  
Quite frankly, I'm amazed it lasted 50 years.
 
2014-07-14 09:59:23 AM  
Possible mayor?

images1.mtv.com
 
2014-07-14 09:59:54 AM  
In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.
 
2014-07-14 10:01:05 AM  
They don't have a local radio station. There isn't even a frequency in Kenneth.
 
2014-07-14 10:01:46 AM  

BizarreMan: Here is the most important sentence of the entire article.

Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Cha-ching!


That is my favorite part. Instead of admitting you need taxes to pay for things they will do this... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
 
2014-07-14 10:01:49 AM  

EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.


Sweden?
 
2014-07-14 10:02:57 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.

I think it's called Vermont. Or Sweden.


Vermont is the opposite of Florida.
 
2014-07-14 10:04:09 AM  

BiffDangler: In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.


So if it weren't for Wal-Mart, people wouldn't litter the streets with abandon and build whatever the Fark they like structure-wise?
 
2014-07-14 10:04:13 AM  
i171.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-14 10:04:15 AM  

BiffDangler: In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.


Keep sucking - that moneyshot is sure to come soon.
 
2014-07-14 10:05:18 AM  

BiffDangler: In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.


Except that the city maintenance, utilities, and services are an embarrassment because they are inadequate...

Taxes pay for garbage men, road crews, police, utility and water lines, and regulations make sure lazy assholes don't trash the place...

Without them, you get Kenneth City...
 
2014-07-14 10:05:23 AM  

Loucifer: They don't have a local radio station. There isn't even a frequency in Kenneth.


Is that a rather obscure reference?
 
2014-07-14 10:06:58 AM  

ginandbacon: WI241TH: EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.

There was this one time, in Canada...

That was really interesting. Thank you for posting.


Seconded. And forwarded.
 
2014-07-14 10:06:59 AM  

EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.


San Fransico
 
2014-07-14 10:07:11 AM  
Don't forget.  Iraq was also intended to be rebuilt as a neo-con free market utopia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/10/arts/free-market-iraq-not-so-fast. ht ml
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB105174142750007600
http://harpers.org/archive/2004/09/baghdad-year-zero/    (requires log-in)
 
2014-07-14 10:07:41 AM  

BiffDangler: In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.


Nothing to suggest it had anything to do with Walmart either. Though Walmart is living their ideological dream, so it would be especially funny if they were the cause of ruin in that town.
 
2014-07-14 10:08:54 AM  
Still more successful than Detroit
 
2014-07-14 10:09:06 AM  
 
2014-07-14 10:09:09 AM  

danno_to_infinity: Loucifer: They don't have a local radio station. There isn't even a frequency in Kenneth.

Is that a rather obscure reference?


Unh-huhhhh
 
2014-07-14 10:10:22 AM  

tzzhc4: EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.

San Fransico


Uh huh, yeah, San Fransicko.
 
2014-07-14 10:10:52 AM  
Nothing in this article suggest this town was what subby purports it to be, other than a single line referencing a 1950's hope that jt would be a low tax municipality. Like hundreds of other communities in Florida that have suffered from demographic changes, this one is failing. That's less of a testament to the town's (nonexistent) libertarian philosophy and more a testament to retirees dying off and being placed by the 47%.

Let's look at the flip side: how are the paternalistic, tax and treat every problem cities of Detroit, Camden, and Chicago doing?

I am so thankful I live in a state-- in a gated community no less-- where my commitment to people who are too lazy to work is kept to a minimum. The greatest threat to America is not terrorism but the federal government's continued destruction of liberty by 1) expansion of government, particularly the military-industrial state and 2) the creation of a dependent class through excessive imprisonment and welfare.

Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?
 
2014-07-14 10:13:01 AM  

nickdaisy: Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?


Oh god, look. It's another guy who thinks he knows how to solve all the world's problems.
 
2014-07-14 10:13:06 AM  

nickdaisy: Nothing in this article suggest this town was what subby purports it to be, other than a single line referencing a 1950's hope that jt would be a low tax municipality. Like hundreds of other communities in Florida that have suffered from demographic changes, this one is failing. That's less of a testament to the town's (nonexistent) libertarian philosophy and more a testament to retirees dying off and being placed by the 47%.

Let's look at the flip side: how are the paternalistic, tax and treat every problem cities of Detroit, Camden, and Chicago doing?

I am so thankful I live in a state-- in a gated community no less-- where my commitment to people who are too lazy to work is kept to a minimum. The greatest threat to America is not terrorism but the federal government's continued destruction of liberty by 1) expansion of government, particularly the military-industrial state and 2) the creation of a dependent class through excessive imprisonment and welfare.

Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?


Who the f*ck are you, and what the f*ck are you babbling on about?
 
2014-07-14 10:13:57 AM  

blatz514: Possible mayor?

[images1.mtv.com image 320x240]


Nice

/Lives 40 minutes east of Shiatowne
 
2014-07-14 10:13:58 AM  
They need more hookers to bring in the tourists.
 
2014-07-14 10:14:01 AM  
FTFA Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Wait.  This town is a model of "tax and regulation free" and it has red light cameras?  I don't think subby understands what "free" means.
 
2014-07-14 10:16:44 AM  

nickdaisy: Nothing in this article suggest this town was what subby purports it to be, other than a single line referencing a 1950's hope that jt would be a low tax municipality. Like hundreds of other communities in Florida that have suffered from demographic changes, this one is failing. That's less of a testament to the town's (nonexistent) libertarian philosophy and more a testament to retirees dying off and being placed by the 47%.

Let's look at the flip side: how are the paternalistic, tax and treat every problem cities of Detroit, Camden, and Chicago doing?

I am so thankful I live in a state-- in a gated community no less-- where my commitment to people who are too lazy to work is kept to a minimum. The greatest threat to America is not terrorism but the federal government's continued destruction of liberty by 1) expansion of government, particularly the military-industrial state and 2) the creation of a dependent class through excessive imprisonment and welfare.

Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?


What if we were to examine all of the surrounding communities in the Kenneth area instead of cherrypicking shiatholes in the Northeast/Rust Belt?
 
2014-07-14 10:16:53 AM  

danno_to_infinity: Loucifer: They don't have a local radio station. There isn't even a frequency in Kenneth.

Is that a rather obscure reference?


What's the frequency Kenneth?
 
2014-07-14 10:17:14 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: BiffDangler: In other news, small-town America has been hit-hard by Walmart and other big box stores.

There was nothing in the article to suggest that the problems are due to ideology.

Nothing to suggest it had anything to do with Walmart either. Though Walmart is living their ideological dream, so it would be especially funny if they were the cause of ruin in that town.


Nothing in the article really points to a specific cause of the city's problems.  If ideology really is the cause, Kenneth's problems will have been present throughout its history, but we don't really know if that's true because we're only getting a snapshot.

No real word on what things were like, say, in 1997.
 
2014-07-14 10:17:41 AM  

danno_to_infinity: Loucifer: They don't have a local radio station. There isn't even a frequency in Kenneth.

Is that a rather obscure reference?


I'd rather not say
 
2014-07-14 10:18:37 AM  
If you are  going to live in a utopian experiment, why not Fairhope?

/Bring on the Jubilee.
 
2014-07-14 10:19:13 AM  

nickdaisy: Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?



Those things would be a good start, but I'd subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2014-07-14 10:19:29 AM  

tzzhc4: EvilEgg: Is there a leftist community we can compare this to?  Where the taxes are super high, but the town takes care of health care, college education, and virtually everything.

San Fransico


Never been to San Francisco?
 
2014-07-14 10:19:45 AM  

Sybarite: BizarreMan: Here is the most important sentence of the entire article.

Kenneth City wants to use red light camera funds to pay for the revitalization and beautification process.

Cha-ching!


The town is already known as a speed trap, so they're just continuing a successful revenue model.


Great, so since they don't want to pay taxes or have regulations and -- surprise! -- their neighbors take advantage of that and shift the cost elsewhere, now they want to seize revenue from residents of neighboring towns (who happen to be driving through) to pay for the necessities their own residents refuse to pay for.

I hate to use one small town as a great example of what would happen if the Tea Party ever actually got their way, but...
 
2014-07-14 10:22:14 AM  

nickdaisy: Nothing in this article suggest this town was what subby purports it to be, other than a single line referencing a 1950's hope that jt would be a low tax municipality. Like hundreds of other communities in Florida that have suffered from demographic changes, this one is failing. That's less of a testament to the town's (nonexistent) libertarian philosophy and more a testament to retirees dying off and being placed by the 47%.

Let's look at the flip side: how are the paternalistic, tax and treat every problem cities of Detroit, Camden, and Chicago doing?

I am so thankful I live in a state-- in a gated community no less-- where my commitment to people who are too lazy to work is kept to a minimum. The greatest threat to America is not terrorism but the federal government's continued destruction of liberty by 1) expansion of government, particularly the military-industrial state and 2) the creation of a dependent class through excessive imprisonment and welfare.

Cut out the spying, end the drug war, and chop welfare in order to restore freedom and stop perpetuating poverty.

Who's with me?


I suggest you read the article Farker WI214TH linked above. Partly because it'll give me joy to know your inevitable conservative coronary will be that much closer, and partly because it just *might* make you think for once.

But I'm not putting money on that last one.
 
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