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(MLS Soccer)   Proving once and for all that Americans won't care about soccer for another four years, 64,000 show up to watch Seattle play Portland last night   (mlssoccer.com) divider line 80
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2014-07-14 07:15:14 AM  
Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.
 
2014-07-14 08:57:29 AM  

dookdookdook: Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.


The World Cup bump has been permanent post each World Cup, it's just not a very large bump.

Soccer is growing in the US. Not as fast as its fanboys say, and not as slowly as its detractors say.

Now, when's the MLB All Star game? And when does NFL preseason start?

/Soccer fan
//Also fan of other sports
///Don't see the need for rivalries between sports
////As ever, fark the Dallas Cowboys
 
2014-07-14 09:00:31 AM  
A Timbers/Sounders game in Seattle is on my sports bucket list. I've only heard good things.

/packers/bears @ Lambeau
//Cubs/Cards @ Wrigley
///US Mens hockey @ Olympics
////GP of Monaco
//Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play
 
2014-07-14 09:03:02 AM  

grinding_journalist: A Timbers/Sounders game in Seattle is on my sports bucket list. I've only heard good things.

/packers/bears @ Lambeau
//Cubs/Cards @ Wrigley
///US Mens hockey @ Olympics
////GP of Monaco
//Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play


Old Trafford. Big-name matches there must be fantastic to watch live.
 
2014-07-14 09:04:58 AM  

grinding_journalist: //Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play


Old Trafford.
 
2014-07-14 09:17:49 AM  
I dunno.. isn't using Sounders-Timbers numbers as an indicator of MLS as a whole just like using Yankees-Red Sox for MLB?
 
2014-07-14 09:21:04 AM  
I love the jets of fire after the Sounders score.
 
2014-07-14 09:28:22 AM  

The Bestest: I dunno.. isn't using Sounders-Timbers numbers as an indicator of MLS as a whole just like using Yankees-Red Sox for MLB?


Pretty much. They're by far the teams with the 2 biggest fanbases, and the most intense rivalry.
 
2014-07-14 09:29:03 AM  
What's this supposed to prove again?
 
2014-07-14 09:32:20 AM  
Everyone knows there are no REAL AMERICANS(tm) in Seattle or Portland.
 
2014-07-14 09:37:48 AM  

dookdookdook: Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.


MLS also has bigger stadiums and cheaper tickets than the NBA, so it goes to reason that they will have a higher attendance. Call me when their T.V numbers are where basketball's are.
 
2014-07-14 09:40:17 AM  

El_Perro: Everyone knows there are no REAL AMERICANS(tm) in Seattle or Portland.


this.

Take off your hipster scarf and put on your soccer scarf.
 
2014-07-14 09:52:20 AM  

Champion of the Sun: El_Perro: Everyone knows there are no REAL AMERICANS(tm) in Seattle or Portland.

this.

Take off your hipster scarf and put on your soccer scarf.


That's the same scarf.
 
2014-07-14 09:52:59 AM  
Seattle? That's barely America. It's more like the South of Canada.
 
2014-07-14 09:57:22 AM  
I thought the northwest was soccer country to begin with ...
 
2014-07-14 09:58:35 AM  
Seattle is not Real America. Lets see how soccer does in Texas, Alabama and Mississippi.
 
2014-07-14 10:02:51 AM  

ongbok: dookdookdook: Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.

MLS also has bigger stadiums and cheaper tickets than the NBA, so it goes to reason that they will have a higher attendance. Call me when their T.V numbers are where basketball's are.


Yeah, look again. Seattle and Foxboro are the only cities with stadiums bigger than typical NBA arenas. If Sporting KC could fit more than 18k into their stadium, they would.
 
2014-07-14 10:02:54 AM  

DubyaHater: Seattle is not Real America. Lets see how soccer does in Texas, Alabama and Mississippi.


Texas has two MLS teams.
 
2014-07-14 10:12:22 AM  
For anyone who watches MLS:  Do Americans fake injury as much as World Cup players do?
 
2014-07-14 10:13:10 AM  

grinding_journalist: A Timbers/Sounders game in Seattle is on my sports bucket list. I've only heard good things.

/packers/bears @ Lambeau
//Cubs/Cards @ Wrigley
///US Mens hockey @ Olympics
////GP of Monaco
//Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play


I got the chance to see Man City v Barcelona in Camp Nou. It was pretty surreal.

We sat in the Man City section and those fans were wild. Most curse words I have ever heard in my life. The Spanish fans were pretty well behaved while the other fans were throwing bottles and becoming raging drunk. You just don't see two completely different cultures like that here.
 
2014-07-14 10:19:40 AM  

BiffDangler: For anyone who watches MLS:  Do Americans fake injury as much as World Cup players do?


Short answer - no
Long answer - some do, but those are generally the players who have played a great deal overseas. Dempsey is the biggest diver on the US national team.
 
2014-07-14 10:20:15 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: grinding_journalist: A Timbers/Sounders game in Seattle is on my sports bucket list. I've only heard good things.

/packers/bears @ Lambeau
//Cubs/Cards @ Wrigley
///US Mens hockey @ Olympics
////GP of Monaco
//Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play

Old Trafford. Big-name matches there must be fantastic to watch live.


I was fortunate enough to see United play Bolton in 1998, back when Giggs and Beckham and Solksjaer were in their prime, and the game started at 3.15pm because there was a ceremony for the 40th anniversary of the Munich air disaster. Game ended 1-1, and the whole atmosphere was fantastic. Getting the tram to Old Trafford, walking by the cricket ground, milling around and getting pie and chips with mushy peas outside the stadium. 

I still have an old Umbro shirt from the club store with the old badge on it...

i.imgur.com

...it was on sale because they'd just had the redesign...

img4.wikia.nocookie.net

...and I also have a match programme and plastic bag. Mementos from a nice Saturday out. If you're into the beautiful game, I highly recommend it.
 
2014-07-14 10:38:05 AM  
If concussion lawsuits and higher insurance for highschools with football kills that sport, soccer would probably see more kids selecting and staying with it.
 
2014-07-14 10:39:11 AM  
Was watching the WC final downtown Seattle yesterday when I heard a couple of guys talking in Portuguese (or at least what I guessed was Portuguese).  I asked them where they were from, and they said Brazil.  My next question was "Who do you root for in this game?"  "GERMANY!".

I guess the shame if Argentina won would be worse than the shame of being shellacked by the Germans.

Anyway, they asked if people in Seattle liked soccer.  I told them about the Timbers match that night, and they immediately went online to find tickets.  I hope they liked the experience.  It was pretty awesome.  Probably will skew their view of what the American passion for soccer is really like, though.
 
2014-07-14 10:44:37 AM  
Due to my (slowly) increasing interest since the 1994 World Cup & 1999 Women;s World Cup, and ready access to games in favorable time slots, I have decided to check out EPL for the upcoming season. Old dog, new trick.

www.3dexhibits.com
 
2014-07-14 10:51:21 AM  
For me the World Cup is fun because it's one month every four years compared to a six month thing every year.
 
2014-07-14 10:56:15 AM  

LarryDan43: If concussion lawsuits and higher insurance for highschools with football kills that sport, soccer would probably see more kids selecting and staying with it.


Soccer also has a concussion problem, just not as pronounced.  Look for the clubs and rec leagues to de-emphasize heading the ball for younger players, if not out-right ban it.  All goalies will eventually have to wear head protection.
 
2014-07-14 10:59:41 AM  

balfourk: BiffDangler: For anyone who watches MLS:  Do Americans fake injury as much as World Cup players do?

Short answer - no
Long answer - some do, but those are generally the players who have played a great deal overseas. Dempsey is the biggest diver on the US national team.


As a Sounders fan I agree with you. OMG he drives me nuts.   I see Yedlin doing that after he goes overseas for a few years.
 
2014-07-14 11:00:49 AM  
That was a great display of athleticism by Goatse and there was terrific atmosphere where we went to watch the game.  Not your typical NFL/NBA/Boxing crowd.  However, without the atmosphere of World Cup, it is just a mindlessly boring game.  Perhaps if I had played it all my life.
 
2014-07-14 11:04:40 AM  

coldcuts: LarryDan43: If concussion lawsuits and higher insurance for highschools with football kills that sport, soccer would probably see more kids selecting and staying with it.

Soccer also has a concussion problem, just not as pronounced.  Look for the clubs and rec leagues to de-emphasize heading the ball for younger players, if not out-right ban it.  All goalies will eventually have to wear head protection.


My son's team, (U8) wont teach heading until U14. Kids are not allowed to do it under that age. If they do its a whistlestop and turnover to other team. The goalie helmet talk is coming up this winter for next spring. From what I was told from coaches and board members insurance would go down 10-15% if we put helmets on goalies so I'm assuming its going through
 
2014-07-14 11:05:21 AM  

eagles95: balfourk: BiffDangler: For anyone who watches MLS:  Do Americans fake injury as much as World Cup players do?

Short answer - no
Long answer - some do, but those are generally the players who have played a great deal overseas. Dempsey is the biggest diver on the US national team.

As a Sounders fan I agree with you. OMG he drives me nuts.   I see Yedlin doing that after he goes overseas for a few years.


As another Sounders fan I also agree with you.  He's the biggest whiner on the team.

I disagree about Yedlin, though.  I (want to) believe that he has a strong enough base and belief in his abilities to not fall into that trap.
 
2014-07-14 11:07:48 AM  
The view from my seat last night as the sun was setting.

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-14 11:14:17 AM  

KJUW89: eagles95: balfourk: BiffDangler: For anyone who watches MLS:  Do Americans fake injury as much as World Cup players do?

Short answer - no
Long answer - some do, but those are generally the players who have played a great deal overseas. Dempsey is the biggest diver on the US national team.

As a Sounders fan I agree with you. OMG he drives me nuts.   I see Yedlin doing that after he goes overseas for a few years.

As another Sounders fan I also agree with you.  He's the biggest whiner on the team.

I disagree about Yedlin, though.  I (want to) believe that he has a strong enough base and belief in his abilities to not fall into that trap.


Give him 4+ yrs with Liverpool or whomever is looking at him in the EPL. I hope he goes somewhere that plays him consistantly. Maybe Southhampton or Crystal Palace is a better landing spot.
 
2014-07-14 11:23:15 AM  

eagles95: My son's team, (U8) wont teach heading until U14. Kids are not allowed to do it under that age. If they do its a whistlestop and turnover to other team. The goalie helmet talk is coming up this winter for next spring. From what I was told from coaches and board members insurance would go down 10-15% if we put helmets on goalies so I'm assuming its going through


There is simple head gear worn like a sweatband that should be used for all levels of soccer.  It's unobtrusive and should help a lot with most head clashes
 
2014-07-14 11:43:41 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: ongbok: dookdookdook: Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.

MLS also has bigger stadiums and cheaper tickets than the NBA, so it goes to reason that they will have a higher attendance. Call me when their T.V numbers are where basketball's are.

Yeah, look again. Seattle and Foxboro are the only cities with stadiums bigger than typical NBA arenas. If Sporting KC could fit more than 18k into their stadium, they would.


Ok fine. What about the T.V numbers. That is really what leagues worry about.
 
2014-07-14 11:58:19 AM  

dookdookdook: Yeah, this time around the World Cup bump is permanent.  Keep telling yourself that.

/MLS has higher average attendance than the NBA.  So either soccer is already a bigger deal than basketball, or your argument is b.s.


You do realize it HAS been permanent each time, right?  After the World Cup (and a smaller bump after the Olympics), soccer gains a little ground each time, and it sticks.

Of course it's got a long way to go to be able to compete with the majors here in the U.S., but that's generally because our local MLS teams are AA minor leagers compared to Europe.
 
2014-07-14 12:10:35 PM  
Finally, no more soccer greens clogging up my Fark Sports tab. At least for 4 years.
 
2014-07-14 12:10:57 PM  

coldcuts: LarryDan43: If concussion lawsuits and higher insurance for highschools with football kills that sport, soccer would probably see more kids selecting and staying with it.

Soccer also has a concussion problem, just not as pronounced.  Look for the clubs and rec leagues to de-emphasize heading the ball for younger players, if not out-right ban it.  All goalies will eventually have to wear head protection.


Why would goalies need head protection? They're the last likely to need it since they rarely head they ball or even attempt to.
 
2014-07-14 12:16:50 PM  
It takes a little longer for a hot trend to die out
 
2014-07-14 12:18:27 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: grinding_journalist: A Timbers/Sounders game in Seattle is on my sports bucket list. I've only heard good things.

/packers/bears @ Lambeau
//Cubs/Cards @ Wrigley
///US Mens hockey @ Olympics
////GP of Monaco
//Man U. @ Wembley or wherever the hell they play

Old Trafford. Big-name matches there must be fantastic to watch live.


I've been to Old trafford to see a game.  It was every bit as amazing as you can imagine.  We did the full spectacle - 7 course meal, free drinks.  Player of the game (Nani) came up for autographs as well as Michael Owen.  Following the game, i left my camera in a taxi and lost all the pictures i had from the game.  //I has a sad now.
 
2014-07-14 12:22:22 PM  

dartben: coldcuts: LarryDan43: If concussion lawsuits and higher insurance for highschools with football kills that sport, soccer would probably see more kids selecting and staying with it.

Soccer also has a concussion problem, just not as pronounced.  Look for the clubs and rec leagues to de-emphasize heading the ball for younger players, if not out-right ban it.  All goalies will eventually have to wear head protection.

Why would goalies need head protection? They're the last likely to need it since they rarely head they ball or even attempt to.


Petr Cech would like a word with you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1204489/The-greatest -s ave-life-The-day-Chelseas-Petr-Cech-died.html
 
2014-07-14 12:24:01 PM  

KJUW89: The view from my seat last night as the sun was setting.


The view from the other side was just as breathtaking

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-14 12:37:33 PM  

Skleenar: I guess the shame if Argentina won would be worse than the shame of being shellacked by the Germans.


It's not that it would be worse... even though Brazil's team sucked throughout the entire tournament, their performance against Germany was vexing. I have never seen a team implode like that and once the dust settles, the shame will live for generations to come. An Argentina win would have just compounded the humiliation.

/Brazilian
//was just LOLing by minute 25.
 
2014-07-14 12:54:57 PM  
 
2014-07-14 12:59:37 PM  
welcometotwinpeaks.com
 
2014-07-14 01:09:16 PM  

El_Perro: Everyone knows there are no REAL AMERICANS(tm) in Seattle or Portland.


Both coasts along with Chicago are not REAL AMERICA.  Only about 20% of Americans are even capable of being Real Americans.
 
2014-07-14 01:26:40 PM  

det0321: Due to my (slowly) increasing interest since the 1994 World Cup & 1999 Women;s World Cup, and ready access to games in favorable time slots, I have decided to check out EPL for the upcoming season. Old dog, new trick.

[www.3dexhibits.com image 213x300]


Instead of just watching random EPL games (although that isn't a terrible idea), I would read up on the league and pick one team to cheer for*.  Spend a couple of hours reading about the team, and bookmark the sports sites from a couple of their local English papers.  Watch as many games from that team that you can.  Having an adopted team to root for makes for a more satisfying entry into a league I think.  If you find yourself being attracted to another team (because of how they play, their players, whatever) don't feel bad divorcing your initial team ... it might take a few seasons for you to decide which team deserves your support  :)

One other thing ... networks like Sky sports have great highlight shows on Sundays and Mondays that you might be able to watch on ESPN or Fox Sports or on the net or whatever.  Instead of having analysts talk over the highlights, they replay play five or six minutes of the best part of each of the previous day's games (not just the goals) with the game's announcers.  I love it so much more than North American highlight packages that feature some idiot in the studio telling me what I can clearly see I'm watching.

*warning:  Buzzfeed link:  http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/which-english-premier-league-team-s h ould-you-support  I don't know have accurate this site is ... it told me to support Everton when I've adopted Spurs as my EPL team.  But I kind of like Everton too so maybe there is something to it.
 
2014-07-14 01:31:48 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Yeah, look again. Seattle and Foxboro are the only cities with stadiums bigger than typical NBA arenas.


And that's enough to bump them above the NBA's average attendance.

Especially when, if you cut Seattle's 2013 average attendance in half, it would have the No. 1 and No. 2 attendances in MLS (and still be larger than any NBA arena's capacity).

Also, LA's 27,000 seats are plenty more than any NBA team has. DC's stadium could hold a lot more. NY has 25K seats, also more than any NBA team.
 
2014-07-14 01:41:21 PM  

IAmRight: Incorrigible Astronaut: Yeah, look again. Seattle and Foxboro are the only cities with stadiums bigger than typical NBA arenas.

And that's enough to bump them above the NBA's average attendance.

Especially when, if you cut Seattle's 2013 average attendance in half, it would have the No. 1 and No. 2 attendances in MLS (and still be larger than any NBA arena's capacity).

Also, LA's 27,000 seats are plenty more than any NBA team has. DC's stadium could hold a lot more. NY has 25K seats, also more than any NBA team.


When NYCFC begins play, their capacity (at Yankee Stadium) will be about 33k. Whether they wil fill all those seats is another matter.
 
2014-07-14 01:46:32 PM  
We need to build a lot of 60-100k seat soccer stadiums right away then.
 
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