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(Bleacher Report)   While no one was paying attention, Jose Altuve of the Houston Astros has become one of the best infielders in the MLB, and he'd definitely be the AL starting 2nd basemen if the All-Star vote wasn't such a joke   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 29
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2014-07-14 08:51:00 AM  
Subby, Astros fans have been paying attention. Yes, all 14 of us.
 
2014-07-14 09:34:40 AM  
Cool.  When I get home from work I'll turn on my no cable TV and watch a game.

....oh, wait.
 
2014-07-14 09:57:40 AM  
Andrelton Simmons seen laughing
 
2014-07-14 10:08:12 AM  
Wait, I thought he played SS...

...and for the lollipop guild
 
2014-07-14 10:14:14 AM  
Oh FFS, now we are whining not about who makes an all star game, but who starts? This must be what counts as filler in the sport-less week
 
2014-07-14 10:14:37 AM  
Astros in 2-3 years:

C Castro
1B Springer (signed cheaply)
2B Altuve (signed cheaply)
3B Ruiz (doing really well in the minors)
SS Correia (former #1 overall pick and doing really well in the minors, recent injury not a long term problem)
RF Singleton
CF Hernandez (doing really well in the minors; .293/.375/.565 with 24 2B's, 8 3B's, 16 HR's & 26 SB's in the first half this year)
LF Deshields JR. (doing well in the minors after adjusting to the OF, true 2B moved because Altuve is doing so well in the majors)

/At least 5 solid pictching prospects as well.
//If Ruiz doesn't make it at 3B Correia has been touted as a possible switch to 3B with another good SS prospect already in the farm system. I've forgotten his name though.
///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.
 
2014-07-14 10:19:06 AM  

balfourk: Astros in 2-3 years:

C Castro
1B Springer (signed cheaply)
2B Altuve (signed cheaply)
3B Ruiz (doing really well in the minors)
SS Correia (former #1 overall pick and doing really well in the minors, recent injury not a long term problem)
RF Singleton
CF Hernandez (doing really well in the minors; .293/.375/.565 with 24 2B's, 8 3B's, 16 HR's & 26 SB's in the first half this year)
LF Deshields JR. (doing well in the minors after adjusting to the OF, true 2B moved because Altuve is doing so well in the majors)

/At least 5 solid pictching prospects as well.
//If Ruiz doesn't make it at 3B Correia has been touted as a possible switch to 3B with another good SS prospect already in the farm system. I've forgotten his name though.
///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.


It's scary to think that they cut JD Martinez in spring training. Think about it, he looked bad compared to everyone else
 
2014-07-14 10:19:54 AM  
To be fair, he is easily overlooked.
 
2014-07-14 10:27:07 AM  

KingKauff: Andrelton Simmons Anthony Rendon seen laughing


If we're going to get whiny about snubs, let's be reasonable.

It still irks me to refer to Astros in the context of the American League, though I have to admit I'm stunned to see them with two players on the All-Star squad.
 
2014-07-14 10:29:44 AM  
Another milestone in Mariners franchise history: we have a player who's considered overrated!

/Cano has been a big boost though
//just not as good as Altuve this year
///you can still make a case for Cano as the starter based on sample sizes and body of work
 
2014-07-14 10:33:22 AM  
Ian Kinsler is better defensively, has more power, and is still getting on base at a good clip. It's not as clear a car as subby implies.

Kinsler is only getting on the team as an injury replacement.
 
2014-07-14 10:34:36 AM  

DrBenway: KingKauff: Andrelton Simmons Anthony Rendon seen laughing

If we're going to get whiny about snubs, let's be reasonable.

It still irks me to refer to Astros in the context of the American League, though I have to admit I'm stunned to see them with two players on the All-Star squad.


I have to keep reminding myself that they are now in the AL. When the Braves played them not too long ago, I asked why they were using the DH, then I remembered.
 
2014-07-14 10:42:39 AM  
It's the Astros; saying "While no one was paying attention" is a bit redundant.
 
2014-07-14 10:49:54 AM  

balfourk: ///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.


People have been saying that about the Royals for some time.
 
2014-07-14 11:10:42 AM  

Super Chronic: Another milestone in Mariners franchise history: we have a player who's considered overrated!

/Cano has been a big boost though
//just not as good as Altuve this year
///you can still make a case for Cano as the starter based on sample sizes and body of work


Cano is having a better year based on WAR. So, that's a pretty strong argument.
 
2014-07-14 11:11:35 AM  

Super Chronic: Another milestone in Mariners franchise history: we have a player who's considered overrated!

/Cano has been a big boost though
//just not as good as Altuve this year
///you can still make a case for Cano as the starter based on sample sizes and body of work


Who cares about all star games?  The Mariners are relevant and going for a playoff run for the first time in 13 years and Cano has a lot to do with that.  The Astros are doing the same thing they do every year; trying to avoid triple digit losses.
 
2014-07-14 11:17:37 AM  

wxboy: balfourk: ///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.

People have been saying that about the Royals for some time.


This time it seems more likely though.  The Astros have a ton of young talent coming that should lead to a competitive team 3-5 years down the road.  The big question though is, will fans start coming back to the park and provide the revenue the team needs to keep these young players or will they just become a farm team for the Yankees when they can't afford to sign their own players?

In typical Bleacher Report writing they say the Astros are in last place as normal, which is not true.  The Rangers are last in the division and last in baseball right now.  Astros are 2nd worse, but still, they're not last.
 
2014-07-14 11:27:32 AM  
Altuve is great. He deserves to start the All Star game but this is how the fan vote works. Or doesn't.

Cano brought some of that overrated Yankee magic to the Mariners. He has been very good, despite not hitting that many home runs for some reason.
 
2014-07-14 11:40:14 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: Super Chronic: Another milestone in Mariners franchise history: we have a player who's considered overrated!

/Cano has been a big boost though
//just not as good as Altuve this year
///you can still make a case for Cano as the starter based on sample sizes and body of work

Cano is having a better year based on WAR. So, that's a pretty strong argument.


If that's your only metric, Cano and Kinsler best Altuve so far this year.
 
2014-07-14 11:53:01 AM  

UberDave: Cool.  When I get home from work I'll turn on my no cable TV and watch a game.

....oh, wait.


Comcast or Altuve height joke? (I know it's a Comcast joke)
 
2014-07-14 12:19:36 PM  

balfourk: Astros in 2-3 years:

C Castro
1B Springer (signed cheaply)
2B Altuve (signed cheaply)
3B Ruiz (doing really well in the minors)
SS Correia (former #1 overall pick and doing really well in the minors, recent injury not a long term problem)
RF Singleton
CF Hernandez (doing really well in the minors; .293/.375/.565 with 24 2B's, 8 3B's, 16 HR's & 26 SB's in the first half this year)
LF Deshields JR. (doing well in the minors after adjusting to the OF, true 2B moved because Altuve is doing so well in the majors)

/At least 5 solid pictching prospects as well.
//If Ruiz doesn't make it at 3B Correia has been touted as a possible switch to 3B with another good SS prospect already in the farm system. I've forgotten his name though.
///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.


Uh I think you got your Springer & SIngleton a bit mixed up.

(Also I'd guess Santana would beat out Kike Hernandez...who is someone that really needs a better nickname)
 
2014-07-14 12:39:19 PM  

DeWayne Mann: balfourk: Astros in 2-3 years:

C Castro
1B Springer (signed cheaply)
2B Altuve (signed cheaply)
3B Ruiz (doing really well in the minors)
SS Correia (former #1 overall pick and doing really well in the minors, recent injury not a long term problem)
RF Singleton
CF Hernandez (doing really well in the minors; .293/.375/.565 with 24 2B's, 8 3B's, 16 HR's & 26 SB's in the first half this year)
LF Deshields JR. (doing well in the minors after adjusting to the OF, true 2B moved because Altuve is doing so well in the majors)

/At least 5 solid pictching prospects as well.
//If Ruiz doesn't make it at 3B Correia has been touted as a possible switch to 3B with another good SS prospect already in the farm system. I've forgotten his name though.
///Currently they aren't looking that great. However their future looks awesome.

Uh I think you got your Springer & SIngleton a bit mixed up.

(Also I'd guess Santana would beat out Kike Hernandez...who is someone that really needs a better nickname)



Whoops, I did mix up Springer and Singleton. Their fault for having similar names.

I don't really think that they will all play together or that the Astros will develop into a great team. The owner isn't going to green light a massive payrole, which will be needed in the long run to keep Springer and Castro as well as sign a few key FA's to fill out the roster. I see them using keeping a core group and being competitve in the future, but not ever really challenging 90+ wins.
 
2014-07-14 12:45:09 PM  
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he's easy to overlook.
 
2014-07-14 12:49:26 PM  

Orgasmatron138: It's the Astros; saying "While no one was paying attention" is a bit redundant.

due to their shiatty TV contract with CSN that just won't farking die.

/ftfy
 
2014-07-14 01:48:32 PM  
I've been paying attention since I drafted him in my fantasy league, subby. I kick myself for not drafting him two rounds later when keeper options came into effect.
 
2014-07-14 02:27:22 PM  

balfourk: I don't really think that they will all play together or that the Astros will develop into a great team. The owner isn't going to green light a massive payrole, which will be needed in the long run to keep Springer and Castro as well as sign a few key FA's to fill out the roster. I see them using keeping a core group and being competitve in the future, but not ever really challenging 90+ wins.


They've got Jeff Luhnow, who ran the Cards' draft board for several years and rebuilt a farm system that had been depleted by Jocketty trading prospects for veterans (to great success, but still). He's pretty good about spotting cheap talent and making timely moves. That 2011 World Series was built in large part on Luhnow's prospects - Garcia, Craig, Lynn, and Jay were all his picks. Rasmus might've been one of his, too. Shelby Miller certainly was in 2009.

I see the Astros as being a solid 80+ win team in a few years, although I think that they're going to have trouble getting past Oakland, Anaheim, and Seattle to do anything playoff related.
 
2014-07-14 11:44:52 PM  

jmr61: Baseball sucks.

Always has, always will.


So does your mom and she's still in business.
 
2014-07-15 03:02:41 AM  
Same Fangraphs data shows Altuve as the second worst defensive 2nd baseman so far this year, and it also shows that just two days after the article came out Cano passed him in Offense, 18.7 to 18.1.

Sounds to me like the right guy won.

A FAR FAR FAR more valid article would have been about Kyle Seager who basically wasn't even in the running (finished 7th or 8th IIRC) for 3rd base despite being clearly one of the top three 3rd basemen in the Majors, and being clearly one of the top two in the American League, and actually finishing number one in WAR in the American League before the break.
 
2014-07-15 08:43:03 AM  

jmr61: Baseball sucks.

Always has, always will.


Oh, sweetie... has it really come to this? Trolling all the baseball threads with this same sad little shtick?
 
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