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(New Zealand Herald)   After more than a year of being free from Ariel Castro's house of horrors, Michelle Knight has finally figured out how to live by herself. She also doesn't want to be a celebrity because money brings fake friends out of the woodwork   (nzherald.co.nz) divider line 82
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2014-07-13 06:17:49 PM  
Sincerely wish the best on life for you, Michelle.
 
2014-07-13 07:41:10 PM  
I'd take the money and learn to tell real friends from fake. Being poor doesn't guarantee true friendships either.
 
2014-07-13 07:41:44 PM  
Booo, Subby, booo...

(I still laughed)
 
2014-07-13 07:44:09 PM  
Who are the dicks who take pictures of her in public?

Have you no shame?
 
2014-07-13 07:44:41 PM  
I'd say be strong, but she's already got that mastered.
 
2014-07-13 07:48:55 PM  
These girls survived horrors beyond belief, emerged strong, resilient and never abandoned hope that they were missed and worried for.  They kept their values, their dignity and are grateful to be back in a world where they are free and capable of making their own choices.  And they make choices out of integrity and a lucid view of that world.  People who go through crap like this in wars are lauded with parades and are pronounced heroes and given a shirt full of fruit salad and brass medals to wear.  I think we should always keep in mind that those whom we loathe and despise isn't always over there somewhere, but sometimes in our own neighborhoods, and the people who survive their machinations are also heroes.
 
2014-07-13 07:58:36 PM  
I'd move to an island somewhere with the cash.
 
2014-07-13 08:00:35 PM  
At the very least, she gets a kick-ass car to drive

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2014-07-13 08:00:59 PM  
Good for her.
 
2014-07-13 08:06:12 PM  

FrancoFile: Who are the dicks who take pictures of her in public?

Have you no shame?


No people have no shame.  And they are far, far worse on the internet.
 
2014-07-13 08:10:39 PM  
The fact that she has money enough to put herself into a good position to reclaim her son and yet did the mature adult thing and let the boy stay in the only home he's ever known?

The woman's got all my respect and if I had money enough, I'd make a donation to her as well.  That decision is one of the most mature and selfless things that I've seen in recent history.

I wish her nothing but the best in this world.
 
2014-07-13 08:11:10 PM  
I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.
 
2014-07-13 08:18:24 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.


Well, on the bright side, he saved taxpayer money.

/He was a coward totally.
 
2014-07-13 08:19:37 PM  

bunner: These girls survived horrors beyond belief, emerged strong, resilient and never abandoned hope that they were missed and worried for.  They kept their values, their dignity and are grateful to be back in a world where they are free and capable of making their own choices.  And they make choices out of integrity and a lucid view of that world.   People who go through crap like this in wars are lauded with parades and are pronounced heroes and given a shirt full of fruit salad and brass medals to wear.  I think we should always keep in mind that those whom we loathe and despise isn't always over there somewhere, but sometimes in our own neighborhoods, and the people who survive their machinations are also heroes.


Until it comes to light that they have some lasting emotional damage.  Then we let them slip through the cracks and spend the rest of their days dreading the next time they need to sleep and live through it again, drinking to deal with the stress, shooting up when booze isn't enough anymore, becoming more and more isolated, becoming unable to function, losing the roof from over their head, begging for change, getting arrested for one thing or another, etc etc.

We love to pretend we're all awesome to our vets, but this nation has established a shameful record in that department.  I don't know why anyone is surprised at the way we treat other groups that have gone through horrible things and are left with terrible emotional problems when we treat our vets the way we do.

According to US Veterans Magazine:

www.usveteransmagazine.com
www.anchorpointmd.org
And thanks to Bush Jr's daddy issues, we've got another 6 decades of the social fallout we saw from Vietnam to look forward to.  Just replace Vietnam with Iraq or Afghanistan.
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2014-07-13 08:20:37 PM  
Proof that women are stronger than men:

Michelle Knight: survived 11 years of horror, including multiple violently-induced abortions
Ariel Castro: couldn't handle more than a month in a US prison before committing suicide

/the only reason I'd believe in hell is so that there is a place for people like that
 
2014-07-13 08:22:42 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: bunner: These girls survived horrors beyond belief, emerged strong, resilient and never abandoned hope that they were missed and worried for.  They kept their values, their dignity and are grateful to be back in a world where they are free and capable of making their own choices.  And they make choices out of integrity and a lucid view of that world.   People who go through crap like this in wars are lauded with parades and are pronounced heroes and given a shirt full of fruit salad and brass medals to wear.  I think we should always keep in mind that those whom we loathe and despise isn't always over there somewhere, but sometimes in our own neighborhoods, and the people who survive their machinations are also heroes.

Until it comes to light that they have some lasting emotional damage.  Then we let them slip through the cracks and spend the rest of their days dreading the next time they need to sleep and live through it again, drinking to deal with the stress, shooting up when booze isn't enough anymore, becoming more and more isolated, becoming unable to function, losing the roof from over their head, begging for change, getting arrested for one thing or another, etc etc.

We love to pretend we're all awesome to our vets, but this nation has established a shameful record in that department.  I don't know why anyone is surprised at the way we treat other groups that have gone through horrible things and are left with terrible emotional problems when we treat our vets the way we do.

According to US Veterans Magazine:



And thanks to Bush Jr's daddy issues, we've got another 6 decades of the social fallout we saw from Vietnam to look forward to.  Just replace Vietnam with Iraq or Afghanistan.


You are a moran.
 
2014-07-13 08:23:12 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.


I'm not sure any punishment is enough for what he did.

Absolute best of luck to this woman. I hope she gets the chance to enjoy life, because it will be sweeter than probably anyone here, I hope anyway, knows.
 
2014-07-13 08:25:29 PM  
So respect her wishes and don't click the link? 

/leaving confused.
 
2014-07-13 08:27:22 PM  

bunner: These girls survived horrors beyond belief, emerged strong, resilient and never abandoned hope that they were missed and worried for.  They kept their values, their dignity and are grateful to be back in a world where they are free and capable of making their own choices.  And they make choices out of integrity and a lucid view of that world.  People who go through crap like this in wars are lauded with parades and are pronounced heroes and given a shirt full of fruit salad and brass medals to wear.  I think we should always keep in mind that those whom we loathe and despise isn't always over there somewhere, but sometimes in our own neighborhoods, and the people who survive their machinations are also heroes.


Well, to be honest, only the armed forces get the honors. The civilians who put up with the crap don't usually get anything..
 
2014-07-13 08:27:24 PM  

wichitaleaf: You are a moran.


Actually, he's spot on.  He's not a moran at all.  At all.
 
2014-07-13 08:37:00 PM  

Peki: Proof that women are stronger than men:

Michelle Knight: survived 11 years of horror, including multiple violently-induced abortions
Ariel Castro: couldn't handle more than a month in a US prison before committing suicide

/the only reason I'd believe in hell is so that there is a place for people like that


The guards were supposed to do checks on him every 30 minutes because of his notoriety. They found that the guards falsified the logs around the time of Castro's death.

We'll never know exactly what happened that night. But I doubt very much we've heard the whole story. I think someone gave him an ultimatum.
 
2014-07-13 08:38:31 PM  
I'm glad her faith in god gives her comfort and I wouldn't want to take that away from her but I just don't get the "god had a plan for my life" reasoning. If anyone has reason to reject this it's this woman.
The belief that some deity concocted a monster like Castro and put those girls through years of hell so they'd be strong and appreciate life would make me mad as hell, not grateful.
 
2014-07-13 08:39:33 PM  

wichitaleaf: You are a moran.


Right, right.  Care to tell me where I'm wrong?  I'd love to hear your attempt to refute anything I've said.  And namecalling isn't exactly going to gain you any credibility.
 
2014-07-13 08:40:42 PM  
She'd do well to leave Cleveland.
 
2014-07-13 08:42:06 PM  

Tillmaster: bunner: These girls survived horrors beyond belief, emerged strong, resilient and never abandoned hope that they were missed and worried for.  They kept their values, their dignity and are grateful to be back in a world where they are free and capable of making their own choices.  And they make choices out of integrity and a lucid view of that world.  People who go through crap like this in wars are lauded with parades and are pronounced heroes and given a shirt full of fruit salad and brass medals to wear.  I think we should always keep in mind that those whom we loathe and despise isn't always over there somewhere, but sometimes in our own neighborhoods, and the people who survive their machinations are also heroes.

Well, to be honest, only the armed forces get the honors. The civilians who put up with the crap don't usually get anything..


A bill, usually.
 
2014-07-13 08:44:31 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I'd move to an island somewhere with the cash.


Cuba?
 
2014-07-13 08:47:17 PM  

FrancoFile: Who are the dicks who take pictures of her in public?

Have you no shame?


Meh, they're the same weirdos who do things like pat pregnant moms on the tummy without asking, provide unsolicited advice to parents in grocery stores, and other annoying but essentially harmless things like that.

She should just learn to smile graciously and ignore them.
 
2014-07-13 08:49:20 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.


Bone cancer would have been nice. With a side of shingles.
 
2014-07-13 08:50:15 PM  

Tchernobog: symptomoftheuniverse: I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.

I'm not sure any punishment is enough for what he did.

Absolute best of luck to this woman. I hope she gets the chance to enjoy life, because it will be sweeter than probably anyone here, I hope anyway, knows.


Not sure there's a punishment for him, but rotting in a tiny cell and getting harassed by other inmates because even among criminals, he is seen as filth, that would have been a start. Hr figure suicide was better.

I think living in a small cell and knowing that you ar going to die of old age there is worse in my mind than the death penalty.
 
2014-07-13 08:51:17 PM  
She is an inspiration. I hope I can be half as successful if life gives me a tough time.
 
2014-07-13 08:53:10 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: symptomoftheuniverse: I wish that shiatsack had lived to get the punishment he deserved.

Bone cancer would have been nice. With a side of shingles.


Emphysema combined with some cirrhosis (with large ascites, making breathing harder). Slowly asphyxiate, motherfarker.
 
2014-07-13 08:53:30 PM  
Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?

✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.
 
2014-07-13 08:57:57 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?
✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.


Of course she's got issues.  No one in this world could go through what she went through and not have massive issues.  Point is, she's handling it about as well as she could be expected to handle it and still making the right choices when it comes to the shiat that matters.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it appears as if I got in the way of your snarking about hipster shiat.  By all means, continue being judgmental toward the trauma victim.
 
2014-07-13 08:59:11 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: wichitaleaf: You are a moran.

Right, right.  Care to tell me where I'm wrong?  I'd love to hear your attempt to refute anything I've said.  And namecalling isn't exactly going to gain you any credibility.


Just replace Vietnam with Iraq or Afghanistan.

That part.

Not even close.
50000 vs 7000.
Vietnam worthless.
Iraq stupid I agree.
Afghanistan, still up for debate. You can disagree but I do believe we made a big dent in the taliban there.
 
2014-07-13 09:05:50 PM  
I don't understand about her son. He's 14 now, got rescued when he was 13? So she raised him all those years, and he didn't know she was his mom? So he got adopted in the past year and he didn't know she was his mom, and she let him go? I don't understand. Or did the boy live upstairs with the bastard, not knowing his mom was chained in the basement? Then I can understand why she did what she did, letting him be adopted. But he's now thinking his father was a bastard, and not knowing who his mom was? So confusing!
 
2014-07-13 09:06:39 PM  

Infernalist: Benevolent Misanthrope: Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?
✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.

Of course she's got issues.  No one in this world could go through what she went through and not have massive issues.  Point is, she's handling it about as well as she could be expected to handle it and still making the right choices when it comes to the shiat that matters.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it appears as if I got in the way of your snarking about hipster shiat.  By all means, continue being judgmental toward the trauma victim.


If you get that I'm mocking hipsters and not her, why did you feel the need to follow that with intentional misunderstanding?  Flamebait or something?
 
2014-07-13 09:07:18 PM  
Surprise surprise - you have money and other people want it.
If the Dr Phil foundation that gave her money had any sense, they would have paid out over time, ensuring that it wouldn't vaporize in the first year.
 
2014-07-13 09:09:47 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?
✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.


Considering all of the shiat she endured for 11+ years, she's pretty centered.
 
2014-07-13 09:11:14 PM  
I'm tired.
 
2014-07-13 09:16:07 PM  
Isn't she the one who has done more to bring attention to themselves than anyone else involved?
 
2014-07-13 09:23:12 PM  

wichitaleaf: Don't Troll Me Bro!: wichitaleaf: You are a moran.

Right, right.  Care to tell me where I'm wrong?  I'd love to hear your attempt to refute anything I've said.  And namecalling isn't exactly going to gain you any credibility.

Just replace Vietnam with Iraq or Afghanistan.

That part.

Not even close.
50000 vs 7000.

Vietnam worthless.
Iraq stupid I agree.
Afghanistan, still up for debate. You can disagree but I do believe we made a big dent in the taliban there.


Number KIA is not an honest comparison.  We've gotten way better at keeping wounded soldiers from dying on the battlefield.  Many soldiers that would have shown up on that death toll in Vietnam ended up coming home with all kinds of physical and emotional problems that will instead take a toll on society for decades to come.

You want to compare the problems from Vietnam and Bush's trip to the sandbox?

"When I say 2.5 million people have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, jaws drop," said Paul Rieckhoff, the chief executive officer of the advocacy group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. ......  Already, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have produced more disability claims per veteran than other wars on the books, including Vietnam, Korea and World War II. While Vietnam extracted a far higher death toll - 58,000 died in that war - the total number of documented disabilities suffered by recent veterans is approaching that of the earlier conflict, according to VA documents.
 So, according to VA documents, disability claims are approaching that of Vietnam, and disability claims per veteran are higher than Vietnam.  Also, much like Vietnam, the conditions involved in-close fighting from building to building, not knowing who the enemy was in many cases, booby traps and IEDs, and all the civilian casualties up close and personal that come with not knowing if that car driving towards you is just someone traveling to the market or an insurgent with a moving fertilizer bomb.


Yes, this is absolutely our nation's next Vietnam.  We've only begun to pay the price.
 
2014-07-13 09:23:55 PM  

wichitaleaf: You can disagree but I do believe we made a big dent in the taliban there.


To the Taliban, WE'RE the terrorists.  And yeah, the Taliban are blithering idiots.  All in favor of us staying home, taking a broom to our own porch and doing something useful with the trillions of dollars we piss away lobbing munitions at brown people, raise your hands.
 
2014-07-13 09:24:44 PM  
I like that the one person for whom the "fame sucks, I didn't want this" whining would not be even slightly hypocritical (since her cashing in was more a necessity of getting back on her feet than a cynical attempt at fame) is the only famous person that  isn't engaging in overblown histrionics about it.

I suppose having once had real problems probably lends some perspective that your average rock-star, etc doesn't have.
 
2014-07-13 09:27:01 PM  

kimwim: I don't understand about her son. He's 14 now, got rescued when he was 13? So she raised him all those years, and he didn't know she was his mom? So he got adopted in the past year and he didn't know she was his mom, and she let him go? I don't understand. Or did the boy live upstairs with the bastard, not knowing his mom was chained in the basement? Then I can understand why she did what she did, letting him be adopted. But he's now thinking his father was a bastard, and not knowing who his mom was? So confusing!


The son was three years old when she was kidnapped. Obviously he hit foster care after she disappeared before being adopted.
 
2014-07-13 09:29:11 PM  

itsaidwhat: Surprise surprise - you have money and other people want it.
If the Dr Phil foundation that gave her money had any sense, they would have paid out over time, ensuring that it wouldn't vaporize in the first year.


How about:

$40K to have as a financial buffer.

$360K paid out gradually, as an annuity...

/ actually, she deserves more than that, IMHO.
 
2014-07-13 09:40:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?
✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.


Extra confusing to change her name, and then reveal it in an interview.
 
2014-07-13 09:53:12 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: itsaidwhat: Surprise surprise - you have money and other people want it.
If the Dr Phil foundation that gave her money had any sense, they would have paid out over time, ensuring that it wouldn't vaporize in the first year.

How about:

$40K to have as a financial buffer.

$360K paid out gradually, as an annuity...

/ actually, she deserves more than that, IMHO.


I suppose there are worse things than being broke. (Her history, high on the list)
 
2014-07-13 09:55:02 PM  

I am Mayhem: kimwim: I don't understand about her son. He's 14 now, got rescued when he was 13? So she raised him all those years, and he didn't know she was his mom? So he got adopted in the past year and he didn't know she was his mom, and she let him go? I don't understand. Or did the boy live upstairs with the bastard, not knowing his mom was chained in the basement? Then I can understand why she did what she did, letting him be adopted. But he's now thinking his father was a bastard, and not knowing who his mom was? So confusing!

The son was three years old when she was kidnapped. Obviously he hit foster care after she disappeared before being adopted.


Want to know the really farked up part?   She had a court date on the day of her kidnapping and it was to do with her son being in foster care.  Her scheduled ride fell through, so she was desperate to find a way to the court house and Castro offered her a ride and she accepted out of desperation.

She was so desperate to get to the court date and get things straight about her son that she ended up getting kidnapped.
 
2014-07-13 09:55:54 PM  

lack of warmth: Benevolent Misanthrope: Issues?  Let's see:

✓ Name change to something similar to a controversial famous person?
✓ Getting lots of tattoos?
✓ Writes songs?
✓ Hipster glasses?
✓ Carefully just-funky-enough clothes?

No issues there.  She's centred.  No doubt in my mind.

Extra confusing to change her name, and then reveal it in an interview.


Pretty sure she was changing her name to cut ties with her past and not to escape fame and all that.  She wants to bury the person she was when she was in captivity.
 
2014-07-13 09:56:16 PM  
I hope she does well in the future.

One thing I missed in the news was the fact that Castro hung himself in prison.  Damn shame... /s
 
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