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(Mediaite)   First it was satire, now it's a hoax, and tomorrow the story of Orange is the New Black being canceled will probably be libel   (mediaite.com) divider line 46
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2014-07-13 01:51:45 PM  
Why do they make a big deal about a fashion show?
 
2014-07-13 02:02:06 PM  
You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.
 
2014-07-13 03:26:48 PM  

Endive Wombat: You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.


Can't stream everything ...
 
2014-07-13 03:40:33 PM  
And libel? Yeah, not so much.
 
2014-07-13 04:18:37 PM  
I'm sure Yahoo was excited they had another show to bid on
 
2014-07-13 04:54:03 PM  
Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?
 
2014-07-13 04:57:42 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


Seemed pretty obvious to me, considering the other headlines on the page

/but then, a lot people get the majority of their exercise from jumping to conclusions, too
 
2014-07-13 05:07:08 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


i realized it was an attempt at satire as soon as I saw the line about women being in the kitchen.

a piss-poor unfunny attempt at satire, but an attempt at satire.
 
2014-07-13 05:24:38 PM  

Endive Wombat: You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.


Yep, what an awful, awful decision.  It's not like the streaming service is now contributing 84% of the company's revenues or anything.
 
2014-07-13 05:32:11 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?

Seemed pretty obvious to me, considering the other headlines on the page

/but then, a lot people get the majority of their exercise from jumping to conclusions, too


Somebody should make a mat to go along with it.
 
2014-07-13 05:39:24 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


Satire is supposed to be funny and have a point

Lying for no reason is not satire. I was just confused by the article
 
2014-07-13 05:50:51 PM  
Lawsuits?

For publicity like this?  Hastings is probably creaming in his ridiculously expensive tidy whiteys at the moment.
 
2014-07-13 05:52:45 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?

Seemed pretty obvious to me, considering the other headlines on the page

/but then, a lot people get the majority of their exercise from jumping to conclusions, too


I was kind of surprised at how hacked off and/or offended some people seemed to be. Is "HOW DARE YOU?" really your* reaction to getting trolled? Some weird spillover ire, too...

*that's a generic "your" -- not your reaction, MMM.
 
2014-07-13 06:02:25 PM  
People seriously don't know Empire News is fake news yet? I didn't think it was an obscure website anymore.
And even if you've never seen the website, It's usually subtle in most of the article, but there's always something that gives it away as obviously BS. People didn't see the "women belong in the kitchen" part and realize they were probably on a fake news site? *facepalm*
I mean it's one thing if they claimed a random passerby said such a thing (even though personally I'd still go "wait" and see what the rest of the site is about), but it's highly doubtful that the CEO of an entertainment source, being well versed in public relations and promotion, would say such a thing. Even if he somehow THOUGHT such a thing, he's gonna lie his ass off, especially with how successful the series has been, about how great the show is in order to promote it.
 
2014-07-13 06:03:57 PM  
So the last thread on this topic got pulled because the article it linked to was a hoax... which means that whoever approved it in the first place didn't realize it was a hoax\... which is really sad.

With the amount of outright horseshiat that gets approved in the politics tab, it's pretty astonishing that Fark would choose this as a place to draw a line in the sand for integrity.
 
2014-07-13 06:13:07 PM  

salvador.hardin: So the last thread on this topic got pulled because the article it linked to was a hoax... which means that whoever approved it in the first place didn't realize it was a hoax\... which is really sad.

With the amount of outright horseshiat that gets approved in the politics tab, it's pretty astonishing that Fark would choose this as a place to draw a line in the sand for integrity.


I don't even know how it's considered a hoax. Empire News directly says their website is fake/satire. NONE of the articles are true. A hoax is something that's passed off by someone as being true. All anyone had to do was look at the bottom of the page and click on "about/disclaimer" where it says immediately and outright it's satire.

http://empirenews.net/about-disclaimer/

Empire News is a satirical and entertainment website. We only use invented names in all our stories, except in cases when public figures are being satirized. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental.

Someone taking an Empire News article seriously isn't as dumb as someone reading an Onion article and taking it seriously, but still pretty farking gullible.

I personally don't find most of their articles remotely funny, but I find it hilarious how many people get trolled and become outraged by them.
 
2014-07-13 06:14:19 PM  
Hey guys!  Argentina won the World Cup in soccer!

just kidding!

/satire
 
2014-07-13 06:20:28 PM  
Or maybe I've just been on the internet too long. I assume absolutely everything to be at least partially BS until I check out the source, or find a reputable source with their own version. And then I still assume it might turn out to be BS since the major outlets get trolled periodically. Probably pretty negative, but I don't get reeled in very often :D .
 
2014-07-13 06:30:47 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: Or maybe I've just been on the internet too long. I assume absolutely everything to be at least partially BS until I check out the source, or find a reputable source with their own version. And then I still assume it might turn out to be BS since the major outlets get trolled periodically. Probably pretty negative, but I don't get reeled in very often :D .


The internet has 2 types of people: People are cynical of everything, and people who believe everything at face value. Honestly, I'm glad that people have outlets like Facebook to complain about things like this, or about how Spielberg killed a triceratops. It saves me the effort and time from being around them and finding out they are complete farking idiots.
 
2014-07-13 06:31:34 PM  
 
2014-07-13 06:35:45 PM  
I want to see Captain Jayneway get naked. Sure she's a bit long in the tooth nowadays but what the hell. Almost everyone else on the show has.
 
2014-07-13 06:43:56 PM  

Mugato: I want to see Captain Jayneway get naked. Sure she's a bit long in the tooth nowadays but what the hell. Almost everyone else on the show has.


She did a a lot of stage work in her day. Most theatre types are rather libertine. I'm sure there are some pics somewhere in her prime.
 
2014-07-13 06:51:36 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


This story from that seems quiet real http://empirenews.net/teen-hospitalized-after-iphone-vs-android-argum e nt-leads-to-physical-altercation/
Based off what I see in The Verge and Engadget comments
 
2014-07-13 07:01:26 PM  

RoxtarRyan: The internet has 2 types of people: People are cynical of everything, and people who believe everything at face value. Honestly, I'm glad that people have outlets like Facebook to complain about things like this, or about how Spielberg killed a triceratops. It saves me the effort and time from being around them and finding out they are complete farking idiots.


That's because intelligent people learn quickly that the internet is full of fakery.  And porn.

I didn't know Spielberg supposedly killed a triceratops. I wonder how that tastes. Hopefully he at least ate his kill. I don't agree with letting meat go to waste. :p

The thing I hate about facebook is finding out people I like in person are actually retarded. They hide it so well offline. Then they get online and "omg wharrrgarrrblllle." And sometimes it's people I can't simply stop interacting with, like family members, so I have to try really hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
 
2014-07-13 07:18:42 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: And sometimes it's people I can't simply stop interacting with, like family members, so I have to try really hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"


Eh, I have no problem blocking people, even family members. Sorry grandma, your racist, delusional rants about how you think Obama is stealing your watermelons doesn't sit well with me, and I'd rather not have my online persona have anything to do with you. Bad enough I keep getting those shiatty flash game invites every hour from you.
 
2014-07-13 07:51:52 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


It wasn't satire.  It was a false article written without irony or humor just to drive web traffic.  It may be actionable.
 
2014-07-13 08:00:52 PM  

Endive Wombat: You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.


It's not a bad idea. It's the execution that was botched. People thought streaming was included in their monthly fee, but Netflix only meant it to be an incubation process to work out the technical bugs before spinning it off into a separate service.
 
2014-07-13 08:06:56 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Ihaveanevilparrot: And sometimes it's people I can't simply stop interacting with, like family members, so I have to try really hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"

Eh, I have no problem blocking people, even family members. Sorry grandma, your racist, delusional rants about how you think Obama is stealing your watermelons doesn't sit well with me, and I'd rather not have my online persona have anything to do with you. Bad enough I keep getting those shiatty flash game invites every hour from you.


Oh I'll certainly block invites, and take people off my newsfeed if it gets too ridiculous. I don't block people completely unless they are posting outwardly racist/prejudice, or anti-gay stuff, in which case, like you, I don't want anyone associating me with them, family or not. They're usually people the rest of my family doesn't care for anyway, since we're mostly a pretty accepting bunch. Those people usually block me first anyway when I post a disparaging remark about their shiatty attitude.

I had to block one person's posts recently for their constant right wing and anti-Obama crap. Not just criticism, but "Obama is the devil in disguise!" type stuff, rife with outright lies and bs statistics. And while the person doesn't say anything outwardly racist online (it's always under the guise of democrat vs republican), lest they offend coworkers and such, I know them well enough in person to know they're simply racist, so there was no point in even bothering with them.

Those type of people I can just block from my newsfeed and ignore. Not a massive problem. The issue is more with people who do post interesting or relevant stuff in between the crazy/gullible/delusional, so I just shake my head at the latter and keep them up there in order to keep from missing the former. I live several states away from a lot of friends and family at this point, so facebook is the only way I know what's going on with some of them unless I want to spend hours on the phone with everyone constantly.
 
2014-07-13 08:17:55 PM  
Speaking of the Spielberg thing, the pic just popped up on my newsfeed. A screen shot of a comment next to it stating "I don't care who he is he should not have shot that animal"

I'm just gonna assume I never saw that, thanks. :D
 
kth
2014-07-13 08:36:08 PM  
First they came for irony, and I did not speak out, because I was not Alanis Morissette...
Then they came for satire...
 
2014-07-13 08:40:13 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: People seriously don't know Empire News is fake news yet? I didn't think it was an obscure website anymore.
And even if you've never seen the website, It's usually subtle in most of the article, but there's always something that gives it away as obviously BS. People didn't see the "women belong in the kitchen" part and realize they were probably on a fake news site? *facepalm*
I mean it's one thing if they claimed a random passerby said such a thing (even though personally I'd still go "wait" and see what the rest of the site is about), but it's highly doubtful that the CEO of an entertainment source, being well versed in public relations and promotion, would say such a thing. Even if he somehow THOUGHT such a thing, he's gonna lie his ass off, especially with how successful the series has been, about how great the show is in order to promote it.


We've got congressmen who say shiat just as backwards and stupid, and they keep getting elected. Hell, there's been a few CEOs lately who have said stupid crap about the clientele they want (or don't) too.

I don't know Reed Hastings so I can't really judge whether that's something he'd say or not, but the idea that it's so far out in right field that no public person would say it out loud? It's definitely wading into poeslaw territory.
 
2014-07-13 08:51:07 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: RoxtarRyan: Ihaveanevilparrot: And sometimes it's people I can't simply stop interacting with, like family members, so I have to try really hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"

Eh, I have no problem blocking people, even family members. Sorry grandma, your racist, delusional rants about how you think Obama is stealing your watermelons doesn't sit well with me, and I'd rather not have my online persona have anything to do with you. Bad enough I keep getting those shiatty flash game invites every hour from you.

Oh I'll certainly block invites, and take people off my newsfeed if it gets too ridiculous. I don't block people completely unless they are posting outwardly racist/prejudice, or anti-gay stuff, in which case, like you, I don't want anyone associating me with them, family or not. They're usually people the rest of my family doesn't care for anyway, since we're mostly a pretty accepting bunch. Those people usually block me first anyway when I post a disparaging remark about their shiatty attitude.

I had to block one person's posts recently for their constant right wing and anti-Obama crap. Not just criticism, but "Obama is the devil in disguise!" type stuff, rife with outright lies and bs statistics. And while the person doesn't say anything outwardly racist online (it's always under the guise of democrat vs republican), lest they offend coworkers and such, I know them well enough in person to know they're simply racist, so there was no point in even bothering with them.

Those type of people I can just block from my newsfeed and ignore. Not a massive problem. The issue is more with people who do post interesting or relevant stuff in between the crazy/gullible/delusional, so I just shake my head at the latter and keep them up there in order to keep from missing the former. I live several states away from a lot of friends and family at this point, so facebook is the only way I know what's going on with some of them unless I want to spend hours on ...


I have a much better solution.

I don't use Facebook.

Problem farking SOLVED.
 
2014-07-13 09:07:14 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?


When reality is crazy, it's hard not to think the crazy is real.
 
2014-07-13 09:25:23 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I have a much better solution.I don't use Facebook.Problem farking SOLVED.


I guess it would be easier to remain in contact with family members when your family tree is a straight line.
 
2014-07-13 10:02:43 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?

 sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]

noun
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.

Any old false story isn't satire.  It has satirize something.  What vice or folly was that story satirizing? That some guy at Netflix no one ever heard of is a jerk?

Even as a plain old joke it doesn't work.  There is nothing absurd or funny about a tv show being cancelled over a run of the mill creative dispute.
 
2014-07-13 10:24:17 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I don't use Facebook.

Problem farking SOLVED.


With such a personality I bet you never have to worry about interacting with people altogether. :)

Indeed. Problem solved!
 
2014-07-13 10:33:32 PM  

joe714: We've got congressmen who say shiat just as backwards and stupid, and they keep getting elected. Hell, there's been a few CEOs lately who have said stupid crap about the clientele they want (or don't) too.

I don't know Reed Hastings so I can't really judge whether that's something he'd say or not, but the idea that it's so far out in right field that no public person would say it out loud? It's definitely wading into poeslaw territory.


Politicians are a completely different brand of nut job.

I feel like it would be less likely for an entertainment CEO to make such a negative comment, disparaging both the show and viewers, when it's allowing their company to make money hand over fist. Not impossible, but unlikely enough for me stop for a second and verify what I'm reading,  especially when that comment happens to be a frequently used internet meme. Enough that I'm not going to immediately post a rabid comment about the article without verifying it.
 
2014-07-13 10:39:39 PM  
When did dumb trolling become satire?

/hey guys. I hear next season of Game of Thrones will take place in modern day NYC and have a crossover with Girls and The entire season will be narrated by Sarah Jessica Parker as Cercei.
 
2014-07-13 11:09:45 PM  

LandOfChocolate: InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?

Satire is supposed to be funny and have a point

Lying for no reason is not satire. I was just confused by the article


Yeah, this was satire like twitter announcing live people are dead is satire
 
2014-07-13 11:32:27 PM  

Roook: Hey guys!  Argentina won the World Cup in soccer!

just kidding!

/satire


+1 my friend, +1
 
2014-07-13 11:34:26 PM  

Endive Wombat: You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.


yeah, not only that but there's nowhere near the amount of content in their streaming library as there was in the late 90s...

/ unless your point was that they should have abandoned the mail order business and gone streaming only.  I'd be ok with that.
 
2014-07-13 11:39:24 PM  

Xythero: InterruptingQuirk: Have people always had such a hard time discerning what was satire?
 sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]

noun
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.

Any old false story isn't satire.  It has satirize something.  What vice or folly was that story satirizing? That some guy at Netflix no one ever heard of is a jerk?

Even as a plain old joke it doesn't work.  There is nothing absurd or funny about a tv show being cancelled over a run of the mill creative dispute.


agreed.  There was a previous article where some Men's Rights Activist complained, apparently seriously, that all the men in the show were portrayed in a bad light.  I could see this as an attempt to satirize ridiculous, but I'm betting more people read this article than that one.  This would have maybe worked out a little better with a link to that article, but it still would have sucked.
 
2014-07-14 12:05:23 AM  

Mugato: I want to see Captain Jayneway get naked. Sure she's a bit long in the tooth nowadays but what the hell. Almost everyone else on the show has.


I was definitely not expecting to see Almond Joy naked.  Then again, I wasn't expecting to see Almond Joy working either.
 
2014-07-14 12:00:18 PM  

serial_crusher: Endive Wombat: You know what...those comments in that satire piece that Reed Hastings "said" I would believe not being too far from the truth.

Remember, this is the guy who had a perfectly viable business and in his infinite wisdom, decided that he should roll the company back to the late-90's by splitting into a streaming AND delivery service.

yeah, not only that but there's nowhere near the amount of content in their streaming library as there was in the late 90s...

/ unless your point was that they should have abandoned the mail order business and gone streaming only.  I'd be ok with that.


My point was that if there was a stand alone dvd service and a stand alone streaming service, the logical step would be to combine them...something that would have happened in the 90's/early 2000's.  Reed decided that they should go back in time and create a company with a VERY 90's name too it and split the business units.  So, sooooo,sooooooo stupid.
 
2014-07-14 01:46:15 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: Nix Nightbird: I don't use Facebook.

Problem farking SOLVED.

With such a personality I bet you never have to worry about interacting with people altogether. :)

Indeed. Problem solved!


So Ryan's got an alt. Interesting.

Anyway, yes... Because my Fark persona is really who I am, and not at all an outrageous exaggeration. You've nailed it. Nobody loves me because I'm not fond of people who think they have to be stoned or drunk to be interesting, enjoy reality shows and truck nuts, and pretend to adore their 5,000 virtual kinda-sorta friends on Facebook.

Whatever. I'm done with you. Stop stalking me, weirdo.Bye.
 
2014-07-14 01:51:18 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Ihaveanevilparrot: Nix Nightbird: I don't use Facebook.

Problem farking SOLVED.

With such a personality I bet you never have to worry about interacting with people altogether. :)

Indeed. Problem solved!

So Ryan's got an alt. Interesting.

Anyway, yes... Because my Fark persona is really who I am, and not at all an outrageous exaggeration. You've nailed it. Nobody loves me because I'm not fond of people who think they have to be stoned or drunk to be interesting, enjoy reality shows and truck nuts, and pretend to adore their 5,000 virtual kinda-sorta friends on Facebook.

Whatever. I'm done with you. Stop stalking me, weirdo.Bye.


And yes, I am aware I responded to you, originally. I assure you it was an accident, and one I've rectified.
 
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