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(NYPost)   The Raelians are determined to take the swastika back from the Nazis, and if that requires them to fly a banner over a crowded beach, so be it   (nypost.com) divider line 103
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2014-07-13 03:25:10 PM
They do have a right to do this.
 
2014-07-13 04:24:49 PM
Take it back from who?

38.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-07-13 05:14:15 PM
www.adweek.com
 
2014-07-13 05:15:39 PM
"It was horrific," said Ariel Creamer, 14, who saw the banner near her home in Belle Harbor. Several of her relatives were killed in the Holocaust, she said.

No. The holocaust was horrific. This is merely stupid.
 
2014-07-13 05:15:52 PM
We should not let a few bad apples in destroy an ancient symbol used by many religions.


It's like banning the cross because the KKK uses it as a symbol.
 
2014-07-13 05:16:16 PM

JoieD'Zen: They do have a right to do this.


Don't you mean a reich to do it?
 
2014-07-13 05:17:55 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-13 05:18:20 PM
The lobby of my county courthouse has a swastika patterned tile floor. They have posted about a thousand signs saying basically "were not Nazis". It's a wonder they never gave in and replaced the floor. Wish I had a pic to post, but I avoid the courthouse as a general rule.
 
2014-07-13 05:18:39 PM
The Raelians-


cdn.gifbay.com
 
2014-07-13 05:19:16 PM

keadie: JoieD'Zen: They do have a right to do this.

Don't you mean a reich to do it?


If you stay stuck in an 80 year old feedback loop anyways .
 
2014-07-13 05:19:23 PM
It was a good symbol and while we are at it a damn fine mustache until the germans got their grubby hands on them.
 
2014-07-13 05:21:07 PM
i82.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-13 05:22:03 PM

AngryDragon: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]


Too slow :(
 
2014-07-13 05:22:15 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: The lobby of my county courthouse has a swastika patterned tile floor. They have posted about a thousand signs saying basically "were not Nazis". It's a wonder they never gave in and replaced the floor. Wish I had a pic to post, but I avoid the courthouse as a general rule.


My high school had a tile floor with swastikas in it as well.  We did not have any signs.
 
2014-07-13 05:22:34 PM
They will probably have as much luck doing that as the "Southern Pride" groups have had taking the stars and bars back from the KKK, once a symbol becomes linked in the cultural memory with a certain group or incident it is nearly impossible to separate it again


/ quick what do you think about when I say 9-11, Pearl Harbor, Eagle has landed?
 
2014-07-13 05:23:56 PM
This is their official symbol:

blog.adl.org

Really, they're no more or less weird than any other UFO-based religion founded by a retired French racing driver would be.
 
2014-07-13 05:24:16 PM

PandaPorn: AngryDragon: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]

Too slow :(


Ha!

Gerat minds...
 
2014-07-13 05:24:53 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: The lobby of my county courthouse has a swastika patterned tile floor. They have posted about a thousand signs saying basically "were not Nazis". It's a wonder they never gave in and replaced the floor. Wish I had a pic to post, but I avoid the courthouse as a general rule.


media.spokesman.com

Bonneville County Courthouse in Idaho Falls?
 
2014-07-13 05:26:09 PM

biyaaatci: symptomoftheuniverse: The lobby of my county courthouse has a swastika patterned tile floor. They have posted about a thousand signs saying basically "were not Nazis". It's a wonder they never gave in and replaced the floor. Wish I had a pic to post, but I avoid the courthouse as a general rule.

My high school had a tile floor with swastikas in it as well.  We did not have any signs.


Well what did you expect going to Hermann Goering High?
 
2014-07-13 05:27:11 PM

Pribar: They will probably have as much luck doing that as the "Southern Pride" groups have had taking the stars and bars back from the KKK, once a symbol becomes linked in the cultural memory with a certain group or incident it is nearly impossible to separate it again


/ quick what do you think about when I say 9-11, Pearl Harbor, Eagle has landed?


Inside job, FDR let it happen to pull us into the war in europe, film sound stage.
 
2014-07-13 05:28:27 PM
Half those people on the beach should just put the Sheeny Curse on them!

/don't worry, it's ok.  I'm taking it back
 
2014-07-13 05:30:42 PM

Jeng: We should not let a few bad apples in destroy an ancient symbol used by many religions.


It's like banning the cross because the KKK uses it as a symbol.


the cross hasn't been linked as tightly in the cultural identity to the KKK* as the swastika has to Hitler
Not fair but trying to fight it is a losing proposition, the only way it will happen is to wait a generation or two for the cultural memory to fade and try again


*now say "burning cross" and you have a new ball game
 
2014-07-13 05:30:57 PM

UsikFark: Bonneville County Courthouse in Idaho Falls?


Found that same mosaic pattern in a historic house, owner wouldn't let it go. It pre-dated Hitler's use by a couple of decades.
 
2014-07-13 05:32:31 PM
Oh and I am too distracted atm to look it up but aren't the Raelians that group that claimed to have cloned a baby a few years ago?
 
2014-07-13 05:34:42 PM
I don't think it's possible but it would be nice.

As an illustrator, I've had instances where I had to quit drawing something because a random part looked sort of like a swastika and I start to think; "Well, I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to put some secret Nazi symbols in here."
 
2014-07-13 05:34:51 PM

UsikFark: symptomoftheuniverse: The lobby of my county courthouse has a swastika patterned tile floor. They have posted about a thousand signs saying basically "were not Nazis". It's a wonder they never gave in and replaced the floor. Wish I had a pic to post, but I avoid the courthouse as a general rule.



Bonneville County Courthouse in Idaho Falls?


Washington co. Ohio. I guess it's more common than I thought. Shame that those Nazi bastiges ruined the connotation of a cool symbol for everyone.
 
2014-07-13 05:35:20 PM
msp.blogs.com
 
2014-07-13 05:38:35 PM
Yeah......that's not gonna fly with me.
 
2014-07-13 05:39:04 PM

Pribar: Oh and I am too distracted atm to look it up but aren't the Raelians that group that claimed to have cloned a baby a few years ago?


Yup.
 
2014-07-13 05:41:09 PM
i1280.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-13 05:44:13 PM

Pribar: They will probably have as much luck doing that as the "Southern Pride" groups have had taking the stars and bars back from the KKK, once a symbol becomes linked in the cultural memory with a certain group or incident it is nearly impossible to separate it again


It's not like the Stars and Bars has ever meant anything other than Confederate Pride (and Hillbilly Pride). Every use of it I've seen, from the history books to the rednecks in pickups, has been quite consistent that way.

We're at the point where nearly everyone who experienced the horror of WW2 is dead, which is what usually has to happen to drop something's cultural stigma. At this point the stigma is just coasting on apathy, no one but the raelians wants it back bad enough to do anything about it.
 
2014-07-13 05:46:53 PM
I remember they phased the swastika out a few years back to appease Israel when they were trying to build an embassy for aliens there, guess they gave that up and went back to the swastika.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-13 05:47:43 PM
manwoman approves...

http://www.manwoman.net/
 
2014-07-13 05:50:29 PM

Apos: The Raelians-

[cdn.gifbay.com image 500x248]


To be fair are they really any wackier than most other religions?
 
2014-07-13 05:54:14 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: Shame that those Nazi bastiges ruined the connotation of a cool symbol for everyone.


On the same note, I'm kind of annoyed that the noun form of "spook" has been twisted by bigotry. It's a cool word.
 
2014-07-13 06:00:26 PM
We should be taking these old symbols back. Giving nazis so much posthumous power is counterproductive, and undeserved.
 
2014-07-13 06:00:37 PM

Mentalpatient87: symptomoftheuniverse: Shame that those Nazi bastiges ruined the connotation of a cool symbol for everyone.

On the same note, I'm kind of annoyed that the noun form of "spook" has been twisted by bigotry. It's a cool word.


See, I associate it with the CIA, then ghosts. Black people are way down on this list of things that come to midpnd when I hear that word.
 
2014-07-13 06:01:35 PM

fusillade762: Apos: The Raelians-

[cdn.gifbay.com image 500x248]

To be fair are they really any wackier than most other religions?



Perhaps not-but they're certainly one of the most flamboyant.
 
2014-07-13 06:02:28 PM

foxyshadis: It's not like the Stars and Bars has ever meant anything other than Confederate Pride (and Hillbilly Pride). Every use of it I've seen, from the history books to the rednecks in pickups, has been quite consistent that way.


Sometimes they fly it upside down.

www.blackradionetwork.com
 
2014-07-13 06:06:17 PM

Mentalpatient87: symptomoftheuniverse: Shame that those Nazi bastiges ruined the connotation of a cool symbol for everyone.

On the same note, I'm kind of annoyed that the noun form of "spook" has been twisted by bigotry. It's a cool word.


www.happytime2u.com

The Brits don't seem to have a problem with it. Though of course they had to change the name for the US run.
 
2014-07-13 06:06:56 PM
Honestly now
I decided to make a concerted effort to do the following:
Take back the god damned rainbow from the gay pride people.  It's a rainbow, not yours.  You can't have it.
Take back the US Flag from the idiotic self aggrandizing idiots.  It's my country too, and I vote.  Not yours, you can't have it for yourself you farking idiotic smokestack pickup driving asshole.
Annnnnd one day we'll work on the swastika.  That's tougher.  That'd take someone like Zoë Kravitz to start wearing it out all the farking time, her being the daughter of a black jew and all that.
Wish me luck.
 
2014-07-13 06:12:56 PM

Mad_Radhu: Mentalpatient87: symptomoftheuniverse: Shame that those Nazi bastiges ruined the connotation of a cool symbol for everyone.

On the same note, I'm kind of annoyed that the noun form of "spook" has been twisted by bigotry. It's a cool word.

See, I associate it with the CIA, then ghosts. Black people are way down on this list of things that come to midpnd when I hear that word.


Yeah, me too. But you just know in this hypersensitive society if you had a picture of a black CIA agent's ghost and said "this is a spook" people would draw the worst conclusion first. Not a huge deal, just use a different word, but I  like spook.
 
2014-07-13 06:16:05 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: It was a good symbol and while we are at it a damn fine mustache until the germans got their grubby hands on them.


its like a good amateur porn site...once the Germans show up, they start shiatting and pissing on everything

/the Dutch too
//farking Russians are scary
///and some of the stuff that comes out of Australia is horrific
 
2014-07-13 06:16:53 PM

Egoy3k: "It was horrific," said Ariel Creamer, 14, who saw the banner near her home in Belle Harbor. Several of her relatives were killed in the Holocaust, she said.

No. The holocaust was horrific. This is merely stupid.


Hmmm...seems more like a "Never forget moment" to me.
 
2014-07-13 06:16:59 PM

fusillade762: Pribar: Oh and I am too distracted atm to look it up but aren't the Raelians that group that claimed to have cloned a baby a few years ago?

Yup.


They just never proved it.
 
2014-07-13 06:18:14 PM

bluorangefyre: fusillade762: Pribar: Oh and I am too distracted atm to look it up but aren't the Raelians that group that claimed to have cloned a baby a few years ago?

Yup.

They just never proved it.


Clone dad?
 
2014-07-13 06:24:15 PM
proswastika.org
so... i went to their site.
 
2014-07-13 06:25:08 PM

UsikFark: foxyshadis: It's not like the Stars and Bars has ever meant anything other than Confederate Pride (and Hillbilly Pride). Every use of it I've seen, from the history books to the rednecks in pickups, has been quite consistent that way.

Sometimes they fly it upside down.

[www.blackradionetwork.com image 450x270]


That's not the Stars and Bars.

This is the Stars and Bars:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-13 06:25:08 PM
Whatever its past, the swastika now serves a very important role by providing a single symbol that can communicate just how evil humans are capable of being. It's worth keeping that meaning alive in order to reduce our chances of reliving that particular history.
 
2014-07-13 06:25:27 PM

Robo Beat: This is their official symbol:



Really, they're no more or less weird than any other UFO-based religion founded by a retired French racing driver would be.


Or any religion, for that matter.

I studied physics, minor astronomy. If you think that this planet harbors the only life in the universe, you're either delusional or ignorant.

Yeah, it's easy to laugh at the "UFO Cult" - but how do they faulter when compared to the Judeo Christian tradition on this planet?

This place is so dumb.
 
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