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(Deadline)   Audiences went bananas over Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, which took the #1 spot at the box office with $70 million. Transformers 4: Explosions and No Plot is a distant #2 with $16.7 million and Tammy tumbling to #3 with $12.7 million   (deadline.com) divider line 80
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2014-07-13 11:40:42 AM
Great movie.
 
2014-07-13 12:05:21 PM
In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.
 
2014-07-13 12:46:55 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


This.
 
2014-07-13 01:09:08 PM
They should make a movie about where African Americans go for haircuts.
 
2014-07-13 01:26:31 PM
i1182.photobucket.com i1182.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-13 01:30:28 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


trans 4 was so terrible ... so bad ....
I would have walked out, but I fell asleep.
 
2014-07-13 01:42:02 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.


Assuming you're talking about Dawn, I don't understand why people like you, who clearly dont even like movies, post in these threads.
 
2014-07-13 02:04:49 PM

enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.


You guys are so cool,hip, and edgy.
 
2014-07-13 02:07:17 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


In other words, it was an entertaining, finely crafted movie that a few Fark Hipsters want to hate on because reasons.

I*'ll even go so far as to say that the current iteration of the Apes franchise is better than the original.
 
2014-07-13 02:09:34 PM
Glad to see all the bad word of mouth for TF4 is giving some effect. Then again worldwide grosses don't seem to suffer from this problem...
 
2014-07-13 02:10:36 PM
The last two Planet movies have been great, with deep stories that go way beyond what I expected.

So, I'm not surprised that this one is raking in the cash.  Hopefully, it'll stomp all over the latest Transformer movie's numbers and give the studios a hint as to what Americans want.
 
2014-07-13 02:10:40 PM
Hollywood has been recycling stories since the 1920s.

Get over it.


/And I loved Transformers 4
 
2014-07-13 02:12:07 PM
No, Subby. You didn't see Transformers then. The problem with it AND Godzilla was TOO much plot.
In fact, I'd love to clock the seconds of screen time between Godzilla and Transformers.
I mean, Godzilla is in a showdown and you shut blast doors and go black? I paid to see some freaking giants fighting.
/Just saw Godzilla
//didn't mind T4
 
2014-07-13 02:13:03 PM
Superb sequel. I'll definitely be watching it again next week. My only quibble-and it's a small one-was the underutilization of Kerri Russell and Gary Oldman. Kirk Acevedo is a great character actor and shone as the human antagonist-as did Toby Ribbell as his simian counterpart, Koba.
 
2014-07-13 02:18:13 PM

plecos: enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.

You guys are so cool,hip, and edgy.


If it's even tacitly related to something that has been released in the last hundred years of film making then it is utterly lazy and devoid of anything even remotely enjoyable. It all started with Godfather 2. Awful farking film yet everyone loved it for some reason.
 
2014-07-13 02:20:18 PM
I was VERY disappointed in Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. No fart jokes, no chimps dressed up in amusing little business suits, no former cast members from Friends complaining about being locked out of their hotel bathroom by a pack of incontinent baby orangutans, and not a single scene of a pompous socialite slipping on a banana peel and falling facefirst into a steaming pile of fresh monkey poop. Don't these people have any idea what a proper ape movie is supposed to be like? This was a bigger travesty than the completely unfunny Gorillas in the Mist.
 
2014-07-13 02:20:48 PM

DamnYankees: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.

Assuming you're talking about Dawn, I don't understand why people like you, who clearly dont even like movies, post in these threads.


"Hollywood is out of ideas" is fast becoming the Entertainment tab version of BSABSVR.

/HIOOISFTT?
//havent seen Apes yet, or the one before it. May watch Rise tonight actually...
///nearest theater is only worth the drive for Marvel flicks
 
2014-07-13 02:22:36 PM

EdgeRunner: I was VERY disappointed in Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. No fart jokes, no chimps dressed up in amusing little business suits, no former cast members from Friends complaining about being locked out of their hotel bathroom by a pack of incontinent baby orangutans, and not a single scene of a pompous socialite slipping on a banana peel and falling facefirst into a steaming pile of fresh monkey poop. Don't these people have any idea what a proper ape movie is supposed to be like? This was a bigger travesty than the completely unfunny Gorillas in the Mist.


A proper ape movie:

www.rangerpulse.com
 
2014-07-13 02:25:53 PM

enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.


Well, considering that Hollywood creates a huge number of movies, many of which you don't even hear about, I'd disagree. Your railing against the top performers as if they encompass the whole.

But continue using the "Hollywood is out of ideas" and "this" as if it isn't indicative of you being out of ideas yourself. Or maybe you never had them to begin with.
 
2014-07-13 02:38:45 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


This video seems like it belongs in this thread.

I hear good things about the new Planet of the Apes movie.
 
2014-07-13 02:42:40 PM
www.soexcitedsoscared.com
 
2014-07-13 02:48:47 PM

DamnYankees: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

enry: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

This.

Assuming you're talking about Dawn, I don't understand why people like you, who clearly dont even like movies, post in these threads.


Because the worthwhile stuff will be out in a few weeks and this dreck is clearly filler?
 
2014-07-13 02:49:09 PM
Planet of the Apes wasn't bad, however I did get some Lion King vibes through out the movie.
 
2014-07-13 02:52:50 PM

Gary-L: Hollywood has been recycling stories since the 1920s.

Get over it.


This
 
2014-07-13 02:55:38 PM

plecos: EdgeRunner: I was VERY disappointed in Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. No fart jokes, no chimps dressed up in amusing little business suits, no former cast members from Friends complaining about being locked out of their hotel bathroom by a pack of incontinent baby orangutans, and not a single scene of a pompous socialite slipping on a banana peel and falling facefirst into a steaming pile of fresh monkey poop. Don't these people have any idea what a proper ape movie is supposed to be like? This was a bigger travesty than the completely unfunny Gorillas in the Mist.

A proper ape movie:

[www.rangerpulse.com image 500x694]


That could have been a classic if only the ape's costar hadn't been so woefully miscast. Instead of some forgettable political hack from some tiny beachfront tourist trap, you really need a seasoned Hollywood personality with the stellar acting chops of a Matt LeBlanc or a Jason Alexander to fully convey all the complex subtleties and nuances of the scatological humor of a well-crafted primate romp.
 
2014-07-13 03:00:42 PM
I had mixed feelings about the first movie. On the one hand, I did like the complexity that put into the storyline and the origins. As well as the acting for the apes.

But something felt forced near the end. People were acting irrationally and the "battles" really stretched what was believable.
 
2014-07-13 03:04:02 PM

Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.


Hollywood has been out of the ideas since they hit paydirt with the tenth sequel/reboot to The Wizard of Oz back in 1939..
 
2014-07-13 03:06:22 PM

Mad_Radhu: Saborlas: In other words, Hollywood is still out of ideas and there's nothing worthwhile playing at theaters right now.

Hollywood has been out of the ideas since they hit paydirt with the tenth sequel/reboot to The Wizard of Oz back in 1939..


What were they thinking making Maltese Falcon for the third time in 1941?
 
2014-07-13 03:12:38 PM

imgod2u: I had mixed feelings about the first movie. On the one hand, I did like the complexity that put into the storyline and the origins. As well as the acting for the apes.

But something felt forced near the end. People were acting irrationally and the "battles" really stretched what was believable.


So, you're telling me that the battle between the survivors of the viral apocalypse and the super-intelligent horse-riding, gun-toting apes was so long that it started being unbelievable?
 
2014-07-13 03:24:46 PM
I saw Begin Again this weekend, and thought it was a very good, enjoyable little movie.

Give it a chance if it's showing in your town.
 
2014-07-13 03:27:42 PM
I don't get the transformers hate.

I went into it for a movie about frickin alien robots that can transform into cars while blowing shiat up and causing shenanigans. The cartoons themselves weren't paragons of plot and substance. They were about alien robots turning into cars while blowing shiat up and causing shenanigans. The human characters were corny and over the top because that's what they were in the cartoons.

Titus Welliver was supposed to be a oversealous twat/joke and that's what he did.

I don't know, I am often teased for being easily entertained. "Simple pleasures for simple minds" etc. I'm not an idiot. I just don't have a stick up my ass and can relax and enjoy stupid shiat.


/stop not liking what I like, dammit!
 
2014-07-13 03:33:21 PM
Clint Eastwood is still directing movies, so no, Hollywood is not out of ideas. Jersey Boys was good. American Sniper is in post-production. If Hollywood has to crank out a string of damn dirty ape movies to keep the cash flowing, and if people enjoy them, I'm all for it. These sort of giant special effects movies are expensive to make and they need to make money. If you're looking for "high art" from a $200 million budget movie you will probably be disappointed, but you will probably be entertained and not begrudge the ticket price.

These special effects block busters also have some very positive side benefits.
They push CGI technology forward.
They make that technology less expensive for other movie projects (and video games) to employ.
They employ a lot of people who learn that technology, build that technology, and do it better each time.
They provide studios with enough money to create a comfort zone which allows studios to back lower cost projects.

We already are seeing the use of once prohibitively expensive CGI in television programming - look, for instance, at Game of Thrones. We can expect more of that in the future as costs go down and the number of people who can do it properly goes up. It's farking fantastic.

I watched an old black and white Creature from the Black Lagoon movie last night (they made several) and, frankly, the special effects in that movie consisted of a lot of underwater photography (probably in a swimming pool) and a guy in a rubber Creature suit. Bring on the Apes, bring on the Transformers and the rest of the big budget CGI movies. At some point they'll be able to make an Avatar type movie with a great story, compelling characters, and it won't cost half a billion dollars.
 
2014-07-13 03:35:37 PM

Zombie DJ: No, Subby. You didn't see Transformers then. The problem with it AND Godzilla was TOO much plot.
In fact, I'd love to clock the seconds of screen time between Godzilla and Transformers.
I mean, Godzilla is in a showdown and you shut blast doors and go black? I paid to see some freaking giants fighting.
/Just saw Godzilla
//didn't mind T4


I was thinking about the "kiss of death" fatality at the end of Godzilla, and how when he finishes, there's this triumphant part of the movie score that just doesn't fit... Because there's been absolutely no setup of Godzilla having a hard time during any if those previous fights. That was the first fight the film let us see!
 
2014-07-13 04:14:51 PM
Anyone else read israel_palestine in this story?
 
2014-07-13 04:17:30 PM
I don't get it. This is already the planet of the apes.
 
2014-07-13 04:26:21 PM
Just got home from seeing Planet of the Apes.  It ain't Battleship Potemkin, but it's still pretty farking good.
 
2014-07-13 04:53:16 PM

CyberKultist: "Hollywood is out of ideas" is fast becoming the Entertainment tab version of BSABSVR.


And "horrible CGI" has become the "sharp knees" of film criticism.
 
2014-07-13 05:07:42 PM

Leader O'Cola: Anyone else read israel_palestine in this story?


These might be spoilers...so watch out. 

Yup. The movie did a good job developing a sense of dread throughout because we knew how it was going to end. The Oldman/Koba parallel was nicely done, too. Fear, guns, and "the other" makes peace pretty much impossible.

The baby ape scene was awful. The baby dragons on GOT were much better and on a tighter budget.
 
2014-07-13 05:09:22 PM
I'm going to have to give the newer ones a chance.  The Mark Walhberg version sort of ruined the story for me and I had no interest in watching the ones that followed it.
 
2014-07-13 05:12:30 PM

Msol: Glad to see all the bad word of mouth for TF4 is giving some effect. Then again worldwide grosses don't seem to suffer from this problem...


International audiences don't need people to tell them what to think like the domestic audience does.
 
2014-07-13 05:19:39 PM

Apos: Superb sequel. I'll definitely be watching it again next week. My only quibble-and it's a small one-was the underutilization of Kerri Russell and Gary Oldman. Kirk Acevedo is a great character actor and shone as the human antagonist-as did Toby Ribbell as his simian counterpart, Koba.


For the first half of the movie, I was thinking "why didn't they switch the Keri Russell roles and the Jason Clarke roles"? There's nothing gender-specific about the roles they play in the movie; there wasn't nothing in Malcolm's perosnality or history which made his masculinity necessary for that role, and it just struck me as the kind of thing the people didn't even think about. It's just one of those small moment of latent gender assumption, I feel like.

Nothing against Jason Clarke, who did a good job and is a good actress. But I think putting a woman in that role makes it a little more dynamic - it makes the bonding between the son and the would-be-stepfather a little more interesting, and it gives Keri Russell more to do, which is always a good thing.
 
2014-07-13 05:21:16 PM

enry: Because the worthwhile stuff will be out in a few weeks and this dreck is clearly filler?


Again - if you don't like movies, why are you posting in here?
 
2014-07-13 05:25:03 PM
I ended up liking Rise of The Planet of the Apes a lot more than I thought I would, so I'll give the new one a chance.
 
2014-07-13 05:25:37 PM

Leader O'Cola: Anyone else read israel_palestine in this story?


Which side are the apes?
 
2014-07-13 05:34:21 PM

Czechzican: I don't get the transformers hate.

I went into it for a movie about frickin alien robots that can transform into cars while blowing shiat up and causing shenanigans. The cartoons themselves weren't paragons of plot and substance. They were about alien robots turning into cars while blowing shiat up and causing shenanigans. The human characters were corny and over the top because that's what they were in the cartoons.

Titus Welliver was supposed to be a oversealous twat/joke and that's what he did.

I don't know, I am often teased for being easily entertained. "Simple pleasures for simple minds" etc. I'm not an idiot. I just don't have a stick up my ass and can relax and enjoy stupid shiat.


Because it's easy.
It's a Titanic joke.
It's a lens flare joke.
There's WAY worse movies out and that have been out. I get Bay films more of an experience than a film and I'm ok with it. I'd edit about 20 minutes off, but then I'd probably scream the movies were too short.
 
2014-07-13 05:44:36 PM
For those bothered by the lack of use of the 'human' actors, this story isn't about them.  They're a foil for the most part.  This movie is all about the apes, which is why guys like Oldman and others don't get the screen time that most would assume they'd get.

They did the same thing in the first movie.  Hell, I think they deliberately chose Franco because how subdued he is as an actor.
 
2014-07-13 05:46:14 PM

DamnYankees: Apos: Superb sequel. I'll definitely be watching it again next week. My only quibble-and it's a small one-was the underutilization of Kerri Russell and Gary Oldman. Kirk Acevedo is a great character actor and shone as the human antagonist-as did Toby Ribbell as his simian counterpart, Koba.

For the first half of the movie, I was thinking "why didn't they switch the Keri Russell roles and the Jason Clarke roles"? There's nothing gender-specific about the roles they play in the movie; there wasn't nothing in Malcolm's perosnality or history which made his masculinity necessary for that role, and it just struck me as the kind of thing the people didn't even think about. It's just one of those small moment of latent gender assumption, I feel like.

Nothing against Jason Clarke, who did a good job and is a good actress. But I think putting a woman in that role makes it a little more dynamic - it makes the bonding between the son and the would-be-stepfather a little more interesting, and it gives Keri Russell more to do, which is always a good thing.


An excellent point. Honestly, I never paid much attention to her until her lovely turn in the underrated Mission Impossible 3 and her current stint on FX's absolutely fantastic The Americans, so I'd hoped for more from her in this flick. Ah well.
 
2014-07-13 06:07:40 PM

DamnYankees: enry: Because the worthwhile stuff will be out in a few weeks and this dreck is clearly filler?

Again - if you don't like movies, why are you posting in here?


Because you can't read.

/Or because you touch yourself at night. Either works rwareallylly.
 
2014-07-13 06:16:54 PM

Leader O'Cola: Anyone else read israel_palestine in this story?


Yep.  I think director's are moving more towards these types of movies where they can move stealth ideas into the public consciousness without the blowback of derp that comes from more direct movies.
 
2014-07-13 06:32:13 PM

Mentat: I*'ll even go so far as to say that the current iteration of the Apes franchise is better than the original.


Apart from the original Planet of the Apes, I'm not sure that requires "going far".  It wasn't exactly high literature to begin with.

The last two are far better than their original counterparts even apart from technical effects.  This one especially is very conscious of what it is and yet still manages to do better character study than 99.9% of the oscar-bait dramas we get every fall even with half the characters limited to monosyllables and the central draw of the movie being chimpanzees riding horses and dual-wielding automatic weapons.

We don't get a lot of really good animated movies, especially, so this one kinda stands out.
 
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