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2014-07-13 03:48:21 PM
Because your skin wants to make fun of you for defiling it with the name of your now ex spouse?
 
2014-07-13 03:54:21 PM
They do fade, and lose color and sharpness over time. That's not 100% permanent.
 
2014-07-13 03:58:29 PM
I didn't think that subcutaneous fat WAS skin. what's the problem?
 
2014-07-13 04:02:55 PM
Funny how that works-your body tries to get rid of something, but only succeeds in making it hang around for the rest of your life.

Kind of like having a child with a crazy person.
 
2014-07-13 04:29:40 PM
That ABBA tattoo is FOREVER.
 
2014-07-13 05:02:02 PM
That's a pretty long video for "because tattoos are in the dermis, not the epidermis where shedding/regeneration mostly occurs".

Also, there is some re-healing and consumption of scar tissue in the dermis as well, so they will fade, it's just not a fast cycle like the outer layer.
 
2014-07-13 05:40:47 PM
I've had my spider tattoo for 31 years.

It still looks pretty good but could definitely use a re-inking.
 
2014-07-13 06:13:19 PM
Oh man I lasted about 13 seconds listening to that fark tard. Why do people who have no business doing voice overs always seem to be the people they pick.
 
2014-07-13 07:21:57 PM
...because they use a needle for tattoos and not a Sharpie?
 
2014-07-13 07:43:31 PM

SomeoneDumb: ...because they use a needle for tattoos and not a Sharpie?


So wait, you're saying I wasted $500?
 
2014-07-13 07:56:17 PM
Nothing more disgusting than old people with tattoos.
 
2014-07-13 07:56:38 PM
Am I the only one that gets irked at the phrase "how come"?  Especially seeing it written in a "news" article.
 
2014-07-13 08:13:11 PM

ReverendJasen: Am I the only one that gets irked at the phrase "how come"?  Especially seeing it written in a "news" article.


How come?
 
2014-07-13 08:25:27 PM

cyberspacedout: They do fade, and lose color and sharpness over time. That's not 100% permanent.


This isn't a useful way for humans to communicate, however, speaking on geological or astronomical timescales with high degrees of literalism. When people speak of permanent installations in a gallery, those are meant to last until the space is needed rather than removed on a set date, and even were an exhibit permanent we would all know this means unless this location shuts down or civilization itself crumbles and the installation is left to the ravages of time. Nothing is permanent, but tattoos are for all intents and purposes permanent because the only way to remove them in a lifetime consists of rather deliberate and extensive procedures (or poor quality tattooing and care...).
 
2014-07-13 08:30:36 PM
Cool. I've got a tat with a little bit of color bleeding (the only colored tat I have at the moment), but it's not so bad that you can't tell the difference between colors.

Very happy with the ink I have. And the nose piercing. So fark all you Boomers who said I'd regret it some day.

/only problem with the piercing these days is all the posts are gauged too small
//where the hell did the 14 and 16 gauge nose jewelry go?
 
2014-07-13 08:38:50 PM

Peki: Cool. I've got a tat with a little bit of color bleeding (the only colored tat I have at the moment), but it's not so bad that you can't tell the difference between colors.

Very happy with the ink I have. And the nose piercing. So fark all you Boomers who said I'd regret it some day.

/only problem with the piercing these days is all the posts are gauged too small
//where the hell did the 14 and 16 gauge nose jewelry go?


You're gonna regret it one day.
 
2014-07-13 08:46:47 PM
Because it makes it easier for people to pick out the impulsive, short-sighted, ridiculously superficial members of society.
 
2014-07-13 08:48:02 PM
Gosh that was easy.
 
2014-07-13 08:48:20 PM

DubyaHater: Peki: Cool. I've got a tat with a little bit of color bleeding (the only colored tat I have at the moment), but it's not so bad that you can't tell the difference between colors.

Very happy with the ink I have. And the nose piercing. So fark all you Boomers who said I'd regret it some day.

/only problem with the piercing these days is all the posts are gauged too small
//where the hell did the 14 and 16 gauge nose jewelry go?

You're gonna regret it one day.


Yup. And being bisexual is totally just a phase . .

/snickers
 
2014-07-13 09:00:04 PM

ReverendJasen: Am I the only one that gets irked at the phrase "how come"?  Especially seeing it written in a "news" article.


Is how's come better?
 
2014-07-13 09:17:59 PM

ReverendJasen: Am I the only one that gets irked at the phrase "how come"?  Especially seeing it written in a "news" article.


It's a pretty standard idiom in English, a contraction of "how comes it", which has been around since Shakespeare.  Admittedly reshaping the phrase to lose one word and a spare letter is a bit lazy, but most contractions are.
 
2014-07-13 09:36:29 PM

Nix Nightbird: Because it makes it easier for people to pick out the impulsive, short-sighted, ridiculously superficial members of society.


...and have sex with them.
 
2014-07-13 09:43:41 PM
I'm of the superior non-inked race. Bow before me.
 
2014-07-13 09:49:18 PM

Nix Nightbird: Because it makes it easier for people to pick out the impulsive, short-sighted, ridiculously superficial members of society.


I know this is trolling to an extent and plenty of tattoos are impulsive and superficial, but I decided upon a design I wanted when I was seventeen, drawn from scratch by a friend. Asked my parents to consent to allow me to have one, but both said no. Did not complain because I understand tattoos may be impulsive and superficial, and I was still young. When I was eighteen, my parents wanted to give me one of those presents of becoming an adult, and I asked after a tattoo. Again, both told me no. I said even though I was legally allowed to get a tattoo, I would not since neither wanted me to. After I was twenty, my father asked me if I was still interested in getting a tattoo. I told him, "Yes." He asked what the design was. I still had the same design in mind as when I was seventeen, though I was asking for a few modifications and slightly sharper design since my circle of artist friends had grown. Had the blessing of both my parents to get who offered to pay, and went the week after with all of the tools for proper care set out for me.

Five tattoos in, the sixth one ready for a month out (coincides with a week I have to take off climbing which could hinder the healing process), and the seventh one being drawn up and I am still satisfied with the tattoos few people ever see. Unless I am on a project route, general people would have no idea.
 
2014-07-13 09:57:11 PM

neuroflare: I'm of the superior non-inked race. Bow before me.


Me too.  God made us perfect so why change it?

/High five!
 
2014-07-13 09:59:14 PM

Vangor: Nix Nightbird: Because it makes it easier for people to pick out the impulsive, short-sighted, ridiculously superficial members of society.

I know this is trolling to an extent and plenty of tattoos are impulsive and superficial, but I decided upon a design I wanted when I was seventeen, drawn from scratch by a friend. Asked my parents to consent to allow me to have one, but both said no. Did not complain because I understand tattoos may be impulsive and superficial, and I was still young. When I was eighteen, my parents wanted to give me one of those presents of becoming an adult, and I asked after a tattoo. Again, both told me no. I said even though I was legally allowed to get a tattoo, I would not since neither wanted me to. After I was twenty, my father asked me if I was still interested in getting a tattoo. I told him, "Yes." He asked what the design was. I still had the same design in mind as when I was seventeen, though I was asking for a few modifications and slightly sharper design since my circle of artist friends had grown. Had the blessing of both my parents to get who offered to pay, and went the week after with all of the tools for proper care set out for me.

Five tattoos in, the sixth one ready for a month out (coincides with a week I have to take off climbing which could hinder the healing process), and the seventh one being drawn up and I am still satisfied with the tattoos few people ever see. Unless I am on a project route, general people would have no idea.


Unless you got them 20 years ago I'm not sure you've had them long enough to proclaim Mission Accomplished.  Life is a long and slow trudge to the sweet embrace of the crypt.  All of us change quite a bit along the way.
 
2014-07-13 10:03:16 PM
Because your body is weak.
 
2014-07-13 10:16:43 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Unless you got them 20 years ago I'm not sure you've had them long enough to proclaim Mission Accomplished.


My point is not that I will never regret them, merely not all tattoos are impulsive and superficial. Besides, I am not sure why I would regret them five, ten, or fifteen years down the road. I spent time to establish what and I why wanted each tattoo, find good artists to draw the design, find proper artists to place the design on me in a healthy environment, and care for the tattoo afterwards. All of them chronicle some part of my life, what I was, what I was trying to become, and so forth. I have a pair of stylized icons from a belaying device which was the start of my becoming disciplined in various areas, no longer simply leaping from different ideas and paths but choosing to pursue a skill, such as climbing. Plenty of people identify themselves by a career, but while I enjoy my career I have plenty else to occupy myself and continue to add. Don't know why 50 year old me would argue with this and somehow lament this tattoo.
 
2014-07-13 10:34:56 PM
Reading that people shed more than 1,000,000 skin cells a day really got my dander up.
 
2014-07-13 11:06:16 PM

neuroflare: I'm of the superior non-inked race. Bow before me.


So you're a plain-belly Sneetch that has none upon thars?
 
2014-07-14 02:45:44 AM

brap: Reading that people shed more than 1,000,000 skin cells a day really got my dander up.


It's no skin off my nose.
 
2014-07-14 02:46:47 AM

MrEricSir: Because your skin wants to make fun of you for defiling it with the name of your now ex spouse?


I have the Chinese symbol for 'truth' on my inner forearm.
 
2014-07-14 06:46:46 AM
There was this fruitcake of a kid I used to work with in Okinawa who went out and got "DRUG FREE" tattoo'ed on the inside of his bottom lip.  He'd have too grab and roll his bottom lip in able for you to read it.
 
2014-07-14 06:59:24 AM

Peki: only problem with the piercing these days is all the posts are gauged too small
//where the hell did the 14 and 16 gauge nose jewelry go?


Why do you want large nose piercings? My first one is probably 20g (though I am sure it was pierced with a different gauge... but that was 20 years ago) and the second one is probably 18, though I'm taking it down to 20 now that it's healed (a cheer me up gift when my wrist was still in a cast in May... so I'm about there to put in the smaller jewelry).  I need mine small since they're next to each other, though.

Vangor: My point is not that I will never regret them, merely not all tattoos are impulsive and superficial. Besides, I am not sure why I would regret them five, ten, or fifteen years down the road. I spent time to establish what and I why wanted each tattoo, find good artists to draw the design, find proper artists to place the design on me in a healthy environment, and care for the tattoo afterwards. All of them chronicle some part of my life, what I was, what I was trying to become, and so forth. I have a pair of stylized icons from a belaying device which was the start of my becoming disciplined in various areas, no longer simply leaping from different ideas and paths but choosing to pursue a skill, such as climbing. Plenty of people identify themselves by a career, but while I enjoy my career I have plenty else to occupy myself and continue to add. Don't know why 50 year old me would argue with this and somehow lament this tattoo.


I'm glad I got my first tattoo in 2006 - I was 30, so I was more set in my personality and have yet to regret any but for one, which was a matter of a poor choice of artist (tattoo #3, and I had briefly moved back to NY and didn't make the trip to CT that I should have) that my guy can just re-ink for me one day when I have the money.

Not everyone is full of regrets over things we do to our bodies. To me, it's just my skin and it is so weird to look at photos where I only have one tattoo on my left arm as opposed to all the color and all of the work and nothing on my right (where I only have one for now.)  *Shrug* My father always gets on me about how I'll feel when I look at photos of myself when I am old, and the answer is, "Like everyone, I'll lament how much younger I was, how different everything was. We all get old and wrinkly, I'll just have more color."  Hey, it's my body and I own it in my own way.
 
2014-07-14 07:38:36 AM

YodaBlues: ReverendJasen: Am I the only one that gets irked at the phrase "how come"?  Especially seeing it written in a "news" article.

How come?


Because the word 'why' is long and hard to spell.
 
2014-07-14 08:22:07 AM

iron_city_ap: MrEricSir: Because your skin wants to make fun of you for defiling it with the name of your now ex spouse?

I have the Chinese symbol for 'truth' on my inner forearm.


Bean curd
 
2014-07-14 09:07:09 AM

Vangor: Nix Nightbird: Because it makes it easier for people to pick out the impulsive, short-sighted, ridiculously superficial members of society.

I know this is trolling to an extent and plenty of tattoos are impulsive and superficial, but I decided upon a design I wanted when I was seventeen, drawn from scratch by a friend. Asked my parents to consent to allow me to have one, but both said no. Did not complain because I understand tattoos may be impulsive and superficial, and I was still young. When I was eighteen, my parents wanted to give me one of those presents of becoming an adult, and I asked after a tattoo. Again, both told me no. I said even though I was legally allowed to get a tattoo, I would not since neither wanted me to. After I was twenty, my father asked me if I was still interested in getting a tattoo. I told him, "Yes." He asked what the design was. I still had the same design in mind as when I was seventeen, though I was asking for a few modifications and slightly sharper design since my circle of artist friends had grown. Had the blessing of both my parents to get who offered to pay, and went the week after with all of the tools for proper care set out for me.

Five tattoos in, the sixth one ready for a month out (coincides with a week I have to take off climbing which could hinder the healing process), and the seventh one being drawn up and I am still satisfied with the tattoos few people ever see. Unless I am on a project route, general people would have no idea.


I'd like to order a subscription to your newsletter for two of my kids.
 
2014-07-14 09:39:52 AM

Chevello: now this is trolling to an extent and plenty of tattoos are impulsive and superficial, but I decided upon a design I wanted when I was seventeen, drawn from scratch by a friend. Asked my parents to consent to allow me to have one, but both said no. Did not complain because I understand tattoos may be impulsive and superficial, and I was still young. When I was eighteen, my parents wanted to give me one of those presents of becoming an adult, and I asked after a tattoo. Again, both told me no. I said even though I was legally allowed to get a tattoo, I would not since neither wanted me to. After I was twenty, my father asked me if I was still interested in getting a tattoo. I told him, "Yes." He asked what the design was. I still had the same design in mind as when I was seventeen, though I was asking for a few modifications and slightly sharper design since my circle of artist friends had grown. Had the blessing of both my parents to get who offered to pay, and went the week after with all of the tools for proper care set out for me.


That's good, too.  I have never gotten a tattoo I did not think about and sit on the idea of for at least 6 months to a year.  I figure, if I like it that long and still want it, that's pretty solid since I am not nearly as flighty as I sometimes appear.  Hence, no regrets. Also, nothing off the wall because I just feel like getting something, though the place I go doesn't even have flash books or a "wall" because they're not that sort of place. Pricey, but you get what you pay for.
 
2014-07-14 10:22:01 AM
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Mr. Cool Ice doesn't melt, he just fades away.
 
2014-07-14 12:00:11 PM

iron_city_ap: I have the Chinese symbol for 'truth' on my inner forearm.


I saw a comedian (Chinese of course) who discussed tattoos of Chinese characters.  He said a huge percentage of the characters inked onto skin do NOT say what people think they say.

"And this one means PEACE and LOVE"
"No....no it doesn't. So you like to suck dick, huh...?"

/not referring to you, but I can't get this joke outta my head
 
2014-07-14 12:22:43 PM

ristst: iron_city_ap: I have the Chinese symbol for 'truth' on my inner forearm.

I saw a comedian (Chinese of course) who discussed tattoos of Chinese characters.  He said a huge percentage of the characters inked onto skin do NOT say what people think they say.

"And this one means PEACE and LOVE"
"No....no it doesn't. So you like to suck dick, huh...?"

/not referring to you, but I can't get this joke outta my head


Thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2014-07-14 01:53:19 PM

serpent_sky: Why do you want large nose piercings? My first one is probably 20g (though I am sure it was pierced with a different gauge... but that was 20 years ago) and the second one is probably 18, though I'm taking it down to 20 now that it's healed (a cheer me up gift when my wrist was still in a cast in May... so I'm about there to put in the smaller jewelry).  I need mine small since they're next to each other, though.


CSS:

I'd been wanting a nose piercing since I was about 13, but my parents wouldn't let me until I was 16  and paid for it myself. So I got a job babysitting about a week before my 16th and saved up the money for the piercing. My mom, meanwhile, had this Indian (dot Indian, not feathers) co-worker who brought back a solid 20-something carat gold nose post. The problem? The sucker was 14 gauge, but it was beautiful. So I got a 16-gauge ring put in, and then stretched it to 14 for the post.

Unfortunately, because of the way they did the hole and the size it was stretched to, 18 and 20 gauge pieces fall out. All I have to do is flare or wiggle my nostrils. I have yet to buy a set of nose studs or posts that can stay in my nose, and I don't always like the aesthetics of a ring. *shrug*
 
2014-07-14 01:59:04 PM

Hawnkee: [www.arcade-lounge.co.uk image 350x471]

Mr. Cool Ice doesn't melt, he just fades away.


NOT FADE AWAY
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2014-07-14 02:11:24 PM

ristst: I saw a comedian (Chinese of course) who discussed tattoos of Chinese characters. He said a huge percentage of the characters inked onto skin do NOT say what people think they say.


Hah, I used to date a Japanese guy who could read and speak the language and there was a great joy on his face when he'd see Japanese tattoos on people who knew nothing of the language because "huge percentage" is an understatement.  There are so many nuances to the language that often it would be close, but the wrong sort of "strength" or the wrong sort of "love". Or just absolute gibberish from a commonly available free font full of gibberish to begin with, made worse by typing out characters that didn't say anything, of were close to things like tree, orange, table, hand - but not even accurately those.

If you're going to take the time and spend the money to have it put on you forever, know what the hell you're putting there and what it means, and be sure.  I wanted to get words in Welsh, but I have seen more than one translation - even from friends who live in Wales -- and since I can't learn the language on my own, I don't want garbage on my back for the sake of having it.  I was looking into it years ago and realized it would be a foolish mistake.
 
2014-07-14 02:26:30 PM

Peki: Unfortunately, because of the way they did the hole and the size it was stretched to, 18 and 20 gauge pieces fall out. All I have to do is flare or wiggle my nostrils. I have yet to buy a set of nose studs or posts that can stay in my nose, and I don't always like the aesthetics of a ring. *shrug*


Ahhh.... not even at local tattoo/piercing shops?  Have you tried Spencer Gifts? I know they had some larger ones at the one I was in yesterday, and they were a good deal since 6/package, $9.99 and all jewelry in the store was buy one, get one $1 so I got 12 nose studs for $13-something with tax, and they're surgical steel. I bought the last two 20g with stars in the package... but I am 99% sure they had larger ones I just passed on.

Though the truth is, most studs are poorly designed and easy to lose or have fall out no matter how small of a gauge you have, which is unfortunate.  Same here, I like hoops, but they don't always work with what I am wearing/in the mood for.  If I have a job interview, at least now, I just wear the smallest stud I have (barely visible) in the second, newer piercing, but since it's behind the one I got when I was 19, someone would have to be looking for it.
 
2014-07-14 05:42:44 PM
I have five tattoos. My first one is Japanese for Inspiration. I researched it, brought the dictionary to the artist, and had thought about it for at least three years. None are spur of the moment decisions and I don't regret a single one. My most recent is 5 years old and I'm so jouncing for another which I've been thinking about for two years now. Oh, the first one is over ten years old. I'm glad I got it :)
 
2014-07-14 07:11:43 PM
I am surprised they don't do tattoos with UV fluorescent ink, the kind that is invisible under regular light and glows under a black light, that way you could look totally normal right up until you don't want too.

/also consider henna tattoos, they last a few months that way you can just change the design with the seasons and even if it does not turn out well  it will fade and you can do something else
 
2014-07-14 07:37:46 PM
Tattoos have not been around longer than any existing culture if they are just 8,000 years old. The aboriginal culture, widely recognized as the oldest existing culture,  has "been around" for somewhere between 40 and 80 THOUSAND years, At least five times longer than the earliest documented tattoo.
 
2014-07-14 07:38:44 PM
Sorry, typing without thinking (first cup of coffee). that's Australia's aboriginal culture, there,
 
2014-07-14 11:53:51 PM

AlgaeRancher: I am surprised they don't do tattoos with UV fluorescent ink, the kind that is invisible under regular light and glows under a black light, that way you could look totally normal right up until you don't want too.

/also consider henna tattoos, they last a few months that way you can just change the design with the seasons and even if it does not turn out well  it will fade and you can do something else


I have seen these types of tattoos on tattoo shows
 
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