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2014-07-12 07:01:24 PM
Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...
 
2014-07-12 07:55:42 PM
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The cat's got it.
 
2014-07-12 07:55:52 PM
Well, they've been warning people this was going to happen.
 
2014-07-12 07:56:26 PM
D).because the shop owner was torn to shreds when he announced "all we have left is Maui Light"
 
2014-07-12 07:58:28 PM
Bound to happen.  Things will smooth out.
 
2014-07-12 08:00:48 PM
I know where the shop can get some bad Mexican Pressed Bud on the cheap.
 
2014-07-12 08:01:12 PM
Spliffy tag suffering from couch lock?
 
2014-07-12 08:03:49 PM
It's quite sad to see how the gov't has screwed that particular pooch.  The Prohibitionists really got their hooks into the process.
 
2014-07-12 08:06:53 PM
Haha, $30/gram. So silly.
 
2014-07-12 08:15:52 PM
I'm gonna be in Portland for a week in about ten days and I'd really like for the shops across the river in Washington to be well stocked.

K, THX
 
2014-07-12 08:16:51 PM

xanadian: Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...


You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


Either way, this is farking hilarious. The potheads got what they wanted, and now they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Next step: Monsanto copyrights/patents/whatever all possible strains and seed and then instead of being thrown in jail for growing, you'll be sued by a large corporation until you can no longer breathe.

I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"
"Who cares? We'll be high!"
"Oh! Right! Far out, man! [air guitar]"

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

/Maybe it's because you smoked it all and there's nothing left for clothes & paper.
//Or maybe some of you were being disingenuous when you talked about clothes & paper.
///Enjoy while you can. The corporations will take over any day now.
 
2014-07-12 08:18:56 PM
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2014-07-12 08:20:52 PM

Nix Nightbird: But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.


Big difference between the stuff you smoke and industrial hemp.
 
2014-07-12 08:21:57 PM

bmwericus: It's quite sad to see how the gov't has screwed that particular pooch.  The Prohibitionists really got their hooks into the process.


Considering how long it has taken to implement (two years, almost) I think the plan itself was to foot-drag.
 
2014-07-12 08:22:14 PM

Nix Nightbird: xanadian: Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...

You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


Either way, this is farking hilarious. The potheads got what they wanted, and now they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Next step: Monsanto copyrights/patents/whatever all possible strains and seed and then instead of being thrown in jail for growing, you'll be sued by a large corporation until you can no longer breathe.

I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"
"Who cares? We'll be high!"
"Oh! Right! Far out, man! [air guitar]"

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

/Maybe it's because you smoked it all and there's nothing left for clothes & paper.
//Or maybe some of you were being disingenuous when you talked about clothes & paper.
///Enjoy while you can. The corporations will take over any day now.


It's been legal for like 6 monthsa man. Mellow out.
 
2014-07-12 08:22:45 PM

leevis: Nix Nightbird: But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

Big difference between the stuff you smoke and industrial hemp.


Poor guy is a troll without a cause.
 
2014-07-12 08:26:24 PM
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2014-07-12 08:29:47 PM

Nix Nightbird: xanadian: Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...

You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


Either way, this is farking hilarious. The potheads got what they wanted, and now they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Next step: Monsanto copyrights/patents/whatever all possible strains and seed and then instead of being thrown in jail for growing, you'll be sued by a large corporation until you can no longer breathe.

I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"
"Who cares? We'll be high!"
"Oh! Right! Far out, man! [air guitar]"

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

/Maybe it's because you smoked it all and there's nothing left for clothes & paper.
//Or maybe some of you were being disingenuous when you talked about clothes & paper.
///Enjoy while you can. The corporations will take over any day now.


Show me on this doll where marijuana legalization touched you.
 
2014-07-12 08:32:20 PM
The pot is way too expensive and the states that have legalized will only give out so many permits to sell it, which means that illegal will flourish.  If the federal government legalizes it they will treat illegal pot growing the same as moon shining.  The punishment for illegally growing and selling pot will much harsher than the sentences now.  Instead of emptying the jails, Federal legalization will increase the jail population.  The federal government will want its tax money.  Buying legal pot is a complete rip off.
 
2014-07-12 08:33:49 PM
Seattle is filled with stoners? You don't say
 
2014-07-12 08:37:51 PM

Nix Nightbird: xanadian: Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...

You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


Either way, this is farking hilarious. The potheads got what they wanted, and now they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Next step: Monsanto copyrights/patents/whatever all possible strains and seed and then instead of being thrown in jail for growing, you'll be sued by a large corporation until you can no longer breathe.

I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"
"Who cares? We'll be high!"
"Oh! Right! Far out, man! [air guitar]"

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

/Maybe it's because you smoked it all and there's nothing left for clothes & paper.
//Or maybe some of you were being disingenuous when you talked about clothes & paper.
///Enjoy while you can. The corporations will take over any day now.


2/10

Please educate yourself on what "addiction" is.  It is not the same thing as "jonesing".  I'd really like some Saganaki right now (Greek cheese) but I'm not addicted to it.  Also, the hemp industry and the "pot" industry are two separate things.  Hemp-based products are illegal due to misinformation when this whole prohibition of marijuana was implemented.  It was a direct result of Congress being lobbied to block hemp so that existing textile manufacturers could continue to flourish.  Hemp products continue to be illegal on the Federal level.  States have no interest in getting into the textile industry.  They simply want revenue of taxing pot.  The entire "pothead" culture you seem to think you're an expert in is based on all the old propaganda.  Are some people that smoke pot a waste of space?  Yes.  Are some people that smoke pot lazy?  Yes.  There is a large segment of the population that fit that mold, with or without pot influencing them.  The only thing your post was missing was some lame reference to Cheetos and Mountain Dew.  Ha ha!  That one never gets old.  Just for reference - I don't smoke pot.  I get high legally with Vicodin!  Yeah Big Pharma!!
 
2014-07-12 08:38:04 PM

boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive and the states that have legalized will only give out so many permits to sell it, which means that illegal will flourish.  If the federal government legalizes it they will treat illegal pot growing the same as moon shining.  The punishment for illegally growing and selling pot will much harsher than the sentences now.  Instead of emptying the jails, Federal legalization will increase the jail population.  The federal government will want its tax money.  Buying legal pot is a complete rip off.


The state doesn't seem to care about smashing the illegal market. This seems to be more about waving around stacks of sweet, sweet tax money from pot.
 
2014-07-12 08:38:14 PM

boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive


The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.
 
2014-07-12 08:43:11 PM

Nix Nightbird: You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


I'm jonesing for a Jimmy John's sandwich.
 
2014-07-12 08:49:05 PM
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Hmmmm, Toke as needed......

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trippy
 
2014-07-12 08:50:12 PM

UsikFark: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive

The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.


Gotta love Farm, where perfect is the enemy of the good. Washington is pretty much starting from scratch with this, without a medical marijuana infrastructure to use art a starting point like Colorado did. It's going to take some time to get it working smoothly, but I'd personally see some shaky first steps in the right direction rather than keep the stupidity of the drug war going indefinitely. It's a complex thing to implement, especially with pot still schedule 1 at a federal level, so I'm willing to endure some annoyances short term if it means that long term it will help cool down the drug war.

For example, I'm kind of glad that WA is delaying edibles in order to put forward standards in place, so we don't have the same labeling issues like in CO. The eyes of the country are on us and CO, and we have to be somewhat careful to not fark things up, otherwise we'll ruin things for everyone. That's why I don't mind things proceeding carefully and cautiously.
 
2014-07-12 08:51:38 PM
Did they try the cops? They must still have some left laying around.
 
2014-07-12 08:54:32 PM
UsikFark:

The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.


Awesome.

Because that is what they really are. The "legal" weed they ran out of represents less than 1% of the weed in the state right now.
 
2014-07-12 08:59:16 PM

UsikFark: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive

The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.


That there IS a "target price" is asinine, and that it's $10 a gram is even more asinine. They've set the cultivation limit at 46 acres, which would hardly be called a farm for anything else (maybe a hobby farm). That's 46 acres to supply the entire state. Plus they didn't license them until the last minute, and have yet to license most of those acres.

A more reasonable price would be something like $1 a gram, but WA doesn't want to lose the money or alarm the Feds by crashing the price. If they allowed even 450 acres - the size of an average hop farm in Yakima - it would do much more good and bring the price down to sane levels. At the very least they should aim to undercut the cartels and illegal growers.

Well, whatever, this is just the beginning, at least there ARE stores. Just the way they are doing it is ridiculous. I'll hope for the best, but it really is kinda lame to watch the current clusterfark.
 
2014-07-12 09:00:52 PM
Actually, there were at least two stores for a while.  The one store in Spokane ran out pretty quickly, though.  The sign on the door last night said they'd be open today at two o'clock.
 
2014-07-12 09:01:41 PM
 
2014-07-12 09:06:04 PM

faceonmars: Actually, there were at least two stores for a while.  The one store in Spokane ran out pretty quickly, though.  The sign on the door last night said they'd be open today at two o'clock.


I know I bought legal pot in Bellingham on Tuesday. So that makes three.
 
2014-07-12 09:07:01 PM
Nix Nightbird:

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

The Feds have been fighting industrial hemp harder than they do pot. And it's a damned shame. I've done a lot of weaving, and hemp was my favorite fiber. It weaves like linen (and you'd have to be a handweaver to understand how nice that is), finishes like silk and wears like iron. The OSU Agricultural Economics school did a very complete analysis of what the State could switch to once logging stopped being profitable. The only candidates that made any kind of sense were  bamboo. flax and cannabis indica. The answers were "Men, not really", "You're out of your mother-humping mind" and "Yep. That's the one"
 
2014-07-12 09:10:06 PM
Evolution...

Evolution in progress...

Darwin is smiling down upon us all
 
2014-07-12 09:15:02 PM
Nice job commies.  Now the only available weed is illegal.  Just like they wanted it to be.  I be they'll see an upswing in drug related deaths aka murders by police over an herb
 
2014-07-12 09:20:00 PM

adamatari: UsikFark: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive

The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.

That there IS a "target price" is asinine, and that it's $10 a gram is even more asinine. They've set the cultivation limit at 46 acres, which would hardly be called a farm for anything else (maybe a hobby farm). That's 46 acres to supply the entire state. Plus they didn't license them until the last minute, and have yet to license most of those acres.

A more reasonable price would be something like $1 a gram, but WA doesn't want to lose the money or alarm the Feds by crashing the price. If they allowed even 450 acres - the size of an average hop farm in Yakima - it would do much more good and bring the price down to sane levels. At the very least they should aim to undercut the cartels and illegal growers.

Well, whatever, this is just the beginning, at least there ARE stores. Just the way they are doing it is ridiculous. I'll hope for the best, but it really is kinda lame to watch the current clusterfark.


$1 a gram? That's absurd
 
2014-07-12 09:21:47 PM
The Feds need to step in NOW, with airlifts of every kind of bud - from Mexican brick weed to medical kush - 24 hours a day non-stop until this crisis is over. Once again, WHERE IS OBAMA?
 
2014-07-12 09:22:23 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Seattle is filled with stoners? You don't say


Not everyone who smokes it is a 'stoner' you dolt.
 
2014-07-12 09:35:40 PM
And the local 7-Eleven was out of Bud Light. So?
 
2014-07-12 09:36:47 PM

Nix Nightbird: I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"


You talk like this was inevitable, but we didn't have a run on stores or anything in Colorado.  The people writing Amendment 64 asked the state government how much time might be needed on their end, and then the state and local governments in turn actually got off their asses and followed through to get regulations and licenses out the door smoothly and painlessly, including a streamlined process for converting a license from medical to retail.  Crazy, I know.
 
2014-07-12 09:36:52 PM

insertsnarkyusername: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive and the states that have legalized will only give out so many permits to sell it, which means that illegal will flourish.

The state doesn't seem to care about smashing the illegal market. This seems to be more about waving around stacks of sweet, sweet tax money from pot.


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The clowns of Washington
 
2014-07-12 09:37:45 PM

JoieD'Zen: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Seattle is filled with stoners? You don't say

Not everyone who smokes it is a 'stoner' you dolt.


That's not what he said. Smoke more and chill out.
 
2014-07-12 09:41:58 PM

CruJones: adamatari: UsikFark: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive

The target price is $10-12 a gram.

Tell me, how many marijuana stores do you think are open in WA? How many (legal) growers do you think have product ready for sale? Did you know one store opened last week in the entire state? Eventually there will be several hindered stores, but this thing just started last week.

That there IS a "target price" is asinine, and that it's $10 a gram is even more asinine. They've set the cultivation limit at 46 acres, which would hardly be called a farm for anything else (maybe a hobby farm). That's 46 acres to supply the entire state. Plus they didn't license them until the last minute, and have yet to license most of those acres.

A more reasonable price would be something like $1 a gram, but WA doesn't want to lose the money or alarm the Feds by crashing the price. If they allowed even 450 acres - the size of an average hop farm in Yakima - it would do much more good and bring the price down to sane levels. At the very least they should aim to undercut the cartels and illegal growers.

Well, whatever, this is just the beginning, at least there ARE stores. Just the way they are doing it is ridiculous. I'll hope for the best, but it really is kinda lame to watch the current clusterfark.

$1 a gram? That's absurd


When Washington switched from a state-run liquor retail system to letting retail stores sell booze, the price jumped. It will be interesting to watch how prices go... and Washington as a state gets most of its revenue from consumption taxes since there is no state income tax. Loads of programs got cut during the last few years as consumers spent less on big-ticket items like cars.
 
2014-07-12 09:43:53 PM
That doesn't mean there 's no pot for sale. The original sources are still viable. Just stand by the door and look dejected. If you see a bunch of people huddled up, stand near-by and look wistful

/Be sure to say "Thank you"
 
2014-07-12 09:44:41 PM
UsikFark:

When Washington switched from a state-run liquor retail system to letting retail stores sell booze, the price jumped. It will be interesting to watch how prices go... and Washington as a state gets most of its revenue from consumption taxes since there is no state income tax. Loads of programs got cut during the last few years as consumers spent less on big-ticket items like cars.

To be fair, the budget was also eviscerated by a series of enormous taxpayer funded giveaways to big corporations.
 
2014-07-12 09:53:19 PM
Dude.  Way to harsh our buzz.

/never touched the stuff
//don't really care if other people do
///shiat's safer than booze and nicotine...still has side effects, but still safer
 
2014-07-12 09:55:25 PM

Nix Nightbird: xanadian: Not so spiffy if you're the one jonesing for a hit and you find the shop's closed...

You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?


Either way, this is farking hilarious. The potheads got what they wanted, and now they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Next step: Monsanto copyrights/patents/whatever all possible strains and seed and then instead of being thrown in jail for growing, you'll be sued by a large corporation until you can no longer breathe.

I personally don't care if it's legal or not. I'd rather it were just to stop the pothead whinging and wasting of space and funds in our prisons, but you had  to know that legalization would mean all this would happen. I guess potheads aren't known for making far-reaching plans, though... it was like:
"We'll totally legalize it, man!"
"And then what? How do we deal with supply, pricing, retail sales, stocking, insuring, inflation in a free market, litigation from users, and all that other stuff?"
"Who cares? We'll be high!"
"Oh! Right! Far out, man! [air guitar]"

But hey, I'm sure all you potheads in Colorado and Seattle will be getting right on switching over to your 100% hemp wardrobes and opening hemp-based paper mills, right? I mean, that's what so many of you were babbling about when arguing in favor of legalizing... But I'm not seeing a boom in the hemp clothing industry for some reason.

/Maybe it's because you smoked it all and there's nothing left for clothes & paper.
//Or maybe some of you were being disingenuous when you talked about clothes & paper.
///Enjoy while you can. The corporations will take over any day now.


1/10 obvious trolll is obvious
 
2014-07-12 09:57:37 PM

gnosis301: Nix Nightbird: You guy say shiat like this, and then you turn around and say it's not addictive. Which is it?

I'm jonesing for a Jimmy John's sandwich.


I'm jonesing for some Ghirardelli's 70% cacao dark chocolate.  And maybe a 6-pack of Arrogant Bastard.  Not at the same time, though...

/I sound fat
 
2014-07-12 09:59:26 PM

Mikeyworld: insertsnarkyusername: boinkingbill: The pot is way too expensive and the states that have legalized will only give out so many permits to sell it, which means that illegal will flourish.

The state doesn't seem to care about smashing the illegal market. This seems to be more about waving around stacks of sweet, sweet tax money from pot.

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The clowns of Washington


I think the approach is short sighted but I can see why they went with that. They get to wave around stacks of cash saying "Look there is revenue here!!". It's a political non-starter here to arrest people for pot now (haven't even heard of a grow op raided since legalization). Also they knew they were going to be short on product, no reason to take out the competition when you can sell your stuff out for twice the price and have them pick up the slack in the mean time. The illegal market is adapting and really still is the better option in terms of price and quality but there is change on the horizon.
 
2014-07-12 10:02:43 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: And the local 7-Eleven was out of Bud Light. So?


The store was out of sauerkraut. Never should have legalized that nazi garnish.
 
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