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(ESPN)   Jameis Winston: Earning a degree is "very important" to him while claiming that graduating is "the main purpose in college"   (espn.go.com) divider line 42
    More: Unlikely, Jameis Winston, Winston, Heisman Trophy, Big Board, firm commitment, Florida State, Seminoles, summary offence  
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2014-07-12 05:24:25 PM  
I'm sure there will be some people that comment in this thread that think Mr. Winston's comments regarding graduating from Free Shoes University are disingenuous. Some may also think that FSU stole a national championship.

I say, let's keep it civil, wide to the right of any profane disagreement. And most important, don't get crabby.
 
2014-07-12 06:03:37 PM  
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2014-07-12 06:52:22 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Free Shoes Seafood University


FTFY

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2014-07-12 06:54:44 PM  
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2014-07-12 07:03:31 PM  
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2014-07-12 07:07:15 PM  
Oh I get the feeling next year when the Jets/Texans/Cowboys/(or God help me) Raiders make him a top ten pick he'll change that tune really fast.
 
2014-07-12 07:34:28 PM  
of course he wants to remain in college...that NC and Heisman trophy are worth at least 2 more shoplifting sprees or one more girl he can rape and get a free pass on.
 
2014-07-12 07:36:17 PM  
Translation,

Flu has all the evidence from the rape investigation and it might make its way to the authorities unless he fishes his time at FSU.
 
2014-07-12 07:41:33 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: I say, let's keep it civil, wide to the right of any profane disagreement.


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2014-07-12 07:53:35 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Some may also think that FSU stole a national championship.


Well, duh, only the SEC is allowed to win national championships, didn't you hear?
 
2014-07-12 07:55:35 PM  
At the risk of sounding like a white knight - Jameis may believe some of what he says.  Graduation is not incompatible with leaving early for the draft.  Football players can always go back in spring semesters and take classes (that's what Cam Newton is doing).
 
2014-07-12 07:56:40 PM  
Sounds like he plans on going pro after this season.
 
2014-07-12 08:08:49 PM  
It's not like he shot the President or anything.
 
2014-07-12 08:10:37 PM  

Dick Gozinya: of course he wants to remain in college...that NC and Heisman trophy are worth at least 2 more shoplifting sprees or one more girl he can rape and get a free pass on.


So you're one of those people who thought The Program was a documentary in real time?
 
2014-07-12 08:16:45 PM  
A lot easier to get away with rape in college..
 
2014-07-12 08:29:33 PM  

Dick Gozinya: of course he wants to remain in college...that NC and Heisman trophy are worth at least 2 more shoplifting sprees or one more girl he can rape and get a free pass on.


College?  Pro?  Doesn't matter.  QB1 is still QB1.

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2014-07-12 08:48:00 PM  
And people actually believed his denials regarding the rape thing? This should be the final nail in his credibility. He simply cannot be honest.
 
2014-07-12 09:53:10 PM  

Dick Gozinya: of course he wants to remain in college...that NC and Heisman trophy are worth at least 2 more shoplifting sprees or one more girl he can rape and get a free pass on.


While the QB for the loser in that game will face disciplinary measures for getting arrested for.......

Wait who am I kidding, he's at auburn they will sweep all that shiat under the rug, they take the kids other schools toss out for issues.
 
2014-07-12 11:35:25 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: And people actually believed his denials regarding the rape thing? This should be the final nail in his credibility. He simply cannot be honest.


Because you have first-hand, deep-source information, don't you? You've got all the evidence in an envelope in the right-hand drawer of  your desk and are going to take it to the FBI first thing Monday morning, aren't you?

/Came for the FSU/Winston hate; leaving satisfied.
 
2014-07-12 11:39:05 PM  

Diagonal: Adolf Oliver Nipples: And people actually believed his denials regarding the rape thing? This should be the final nail in his credibility. He simply cannot be honest.

Because you have first-hand, deep-source information, don't you? You've got all the evidence in an envelope in the right-hand drawer of  your desk and are going to take it to the FBI first thing Monday morning, aren't you?

/Came for the FSU/Winston hate; leaving satisfied.


You missed the joke. Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the Internet, I understand.
 
2014-07-13 06:28:42 AM  
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2014-07-13 08:31:05 AM  
I'm sorry they won the Natl Championship because that somehow vindicates the shabby treatment of Bobby Bowden.
 
2014-07-13 01:31:26 PM  
Graduating is the main purpose of college? What about learning something? What about picking up at least some of the necessary skills to pursue a career? Bill Gates left early, and never got a piece of paper, unless someone gave him an honorary degree for boring the shiat out of everyone at a graduation ceremony. No one looks down on him for that. If you can go in the first round of the NFL draft, I'd say you got what you came for from college, too. It would also be nice if college athletes picked up some critical thinking skills, information about science and Western culture, maybe even some higher mathematics, but wish in one hand, shiat in the other.
 
2014-07-13 03:37:23 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: Graduating is the main purpose of college? What about learning something? What about picking up at least some of the necessary skills to pursue a career? Bill Gates left early, and never got a piece of paper, unless someone gave him an honorary degree for boring the shiat out of everyone at a graduation ceremony. No one looks down on him for that. If you can go in the first round of the NFL draft, I'd say you got what you came for from college, too. It would also be nice if college athletes picked up some critical thinking skills, information about science and Western culture, maybe even some higher mathematics, but wish in one hand, shiat in the other.


I started my career before college.  College is only for a piece of paper so I can get better access to job interviews.  I've learned very little I already didn't know in college.

For him, college is the same.  He wants a degree for the sake of having a degree.  He's not going to learn anything for his career in college, though, other than more practice towards being a professional football player.
 
2014-07-13 03:39:39 PM  

bhcompy: I've learned very little I already didn't know in college.


Do you understand that you're essentially stating for the record that you're a very lazy student?
 
2014-07-13 03:43:31 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: It would also be nice if college athletes picked up some critical thinking skills, information about science and Western culture, maybe even some higher mathematics, but wish in one hand, shiat in the other.


The overwhelming majority do.
 
2014-07-13 03:47:15 PM  

kwame: bhcompy: I've learned very little I already didn't know in college.

Do you understand that you're essentially stating for the record that you're a very lazy student?


IT is heavily certification based.   You don't take those at universities and they don't teach towards them, either
 
2014-07-13 03:56:28 PM  

bhcompy: IT is heavily certification based. You don't take those at universities and they don't teach towards them, either


There is more to be learned than the line item skills you need for your current job.
 
2014-07-13 04:09:03 PM  

kwame: bhcompy: IT is heavily certification based. You don't take those at universities and they don't teach towards them, either

There is more to be learned than the line item skills you need for your current job.


College is too expensive to take as a luxury these days.
 
2014-07-13 04:12:24 PM  

kwame: forgotmydamnusername: It would also be nice if college athletes picked up some critical thinking skills, information about science and Western culture, maybe even some higher mathematics, but wish in one hand, shiat in the other.

The overwhelming majority do.


Not anybody that's likely to see playing time in an actual game in one of the major revenue sports.
 
2014-07-13 04:12:28 PM  

bhcompy: College is too expensive to take as a luxury these days.


What is it you're imagining that I am talking about when you respond that way?  Getting maximum value out of the courses you take and the tuition you spend is actually one of those lessons you're supposed to be learning in college.
 
2014-07-13 04:13:42 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: kwame: forgotmydamnusername: It would also be nice if college athletes picked up some critical thinking skills, information about science and Western culture, maybe even some higher mathematics, but wish in one hand, shiat in the other.

The overwhelming majority do.

Not anybody that's likely to see playing time in an actual game in one of the major revenue sports.


Ahhh, now we start narrowing it down to approximately 2% of the student athletes in the country.

And even then, the majority still do.
 
2014-07-13 04:51:33 PM  

kwame: bhcompy: College is too expensive to take as a luxury these days.

What is it you're imagining that I am talking about when you respond that way?  Getting maximum value out of the courses you take and the tuition you spend is actually one of those lessons you're supposed to be learning in college.


And maximum value may be skipping it entirely, depending on your vocation. Stop assuming that the only way to be successful is to go to college.

And, actually, you sound like a spokesperson for Devry.  Of course colleges are going to tell you that you need to attend in order to be successful, because they want your money. It's how colleges(public and private alike) stay in business.  It's how they can afford to raise tuition at double the rate of inflation year in and year out on average for over 40 years.

Now, let's talk about what I learned in college.  General Education was 75% required rehashing of high school, 25% new stuff that was merely for expanding my mind.  Courses in my major, both upper division and lower division, did little to teach me things I haven't already been teaching myself since I was 10 years old.  Next time I want to expand my mind, I'll pay $40/credit and take a community college course.  Now, if I wanted to be a lawyer, I would go to school and accept the cost, because in order to be successful as a lawyer, you're almost required to graduate from a highly rated school, but I'm not in one of those chosen professions.
 
2014-07-13 04:55:55 PM  

bhcompy: And maximum value may be skipping it entirely, depending on your vocation.

  Stop assuming that the only way to be successful is to go to college.

There's no value involved if you don't spend money.  That's silly.  Stop assuming I'm claiming you can't be successful without going to college.

bhcompy: Of course colleges are going to tell you that you need to attend in order to be successful, because they want your money.


Doctors are going to tell you that you need to see them in order to be healthy.  There's nothing wrong with telling people they need something that they need.

bhcompy: Now, let's talk about what I learned in college.


You didn't learn much in college.
 
2014-07-13 05:00:42 PM  

bhcompy: Now, let's talk about what I learned in college. General Education was 75% required rehashing of high school, 25% new stuff that was merely for expanding my mind.


I want to expand on this.  I'm assuming you earned a non-technical degree, so if I'm wrong, this might be a different point, but you're claiming general education, which in almost every institution makes up about 75% of the degree, was information you already knew.  That means you are either not being honest, didn't pay attention and try to learn anything, or selected only subjects that you had already studied in depth.

Then you actually used the word merely to describe expanding your mind.

Merely.

Jesus.
 
2014-07-13 05:24:07 PM  

kwame: bhcompy: I've learned very little I already didn't know in college.

Do you understand that you're essentially stating for the record that you're a very lazy student?


There must be shiatty quality control if what you claim are shiatty students can graduate.

College doesn't do a very good job of educating its students, as shown in Academically Adrift. If you want to learn, enroll in a MOOC.
 
2014-07-13 05:35:08 PM  

kwame: There's no value involved if you don't spend money. That's silly. Stop assuming I'm claiming you can't be successful without going to college.


Debt doesn't create value automatically.  There is value in not creating unneeded debt.  You're making an assumption that a
choice not to act is an act without value.
 
2014-07-13 05:50:12 PM  

kwame: bhcompy: Now, let's talk about what I learned in college. General Education was 75% required rehashing of high school, 25% new stuff that was merely for expanding my mind.

I want to expand on this.  I'm assuming you earned a non-technical degree, so if I'm wrong, this might be a different point, but you're claiming general education, which in almost every institution makes up about 75% of the degree, was information you already knew.  That means you are either not being honest, didn't pay attention and try to learn anything, or selected only subjects that you had already studied in depth.

Then you actually used the word merely to describe expanding your mind.

Merely.

Jesus.


Why is there a requirement by you to do this before one starts their career?  Why do I need to spend $60k(average cost of 4 years of public university today) to expand my mind?  We live in the information age.  I have access to many knowledge and learning resources that cost me only what it costs for internet access or a library card.  I can complete my vocational education and expand my mind on the side, after I start my career.

And I have a technical degree.  I taught myself to program, to engineer logic boards, to manage domains and email servers long before I entered college, all because I had the will and the tools(the internet and a crappy high school job to buy the physical tools and equipment I needed) to do this.  The degree is a formality that I completed after starting working in my chosen field.
 
2014-07-13 05:54:36 PM  

llortcM_yllort: There must be shiatty quality control if what you claim are shiatty students can graduate.


That was an adorable attempt except for the part where I never claimed any such thing.

bhcompy: Debt doesn't create value automatically. There is value in not creating unneeded debt. You're making an assumption that a choice not to act is an act without value.


Where did I mention debt?  You keep trying to steer my comments in a direction that suits your purpose.  You might recognize that if you hadn't already learned everything your college was trying to teach you before you enrolled.
 
2014-07-13 05:59:17 PM  

kwame: llortcM_yllort: There must be shiatty quality control if what you claim are shiatty students can graduate.


That was an adorable attempt except for the part where I never claimed any such thing.


I'm sorry, let me rephrase that.  There must be shiatty quality control if what you claim are LAZY students can graduate.  Is that better?  After all, you called bhcompy lazy so if he graduates then a lazy student graduated college.  Hence, "there must be shiatty quality control if what you claim are lazy students can graduate "

There's a reason colleges aren't very good at educating students.   Academically Adrift should have been a wake up call to universities, but they seem content to take money from students knowing that they won't learn anything.
 
2014-07-13 06:29:40 PM  

kwame: Where did I mention debt?


kwame: There's no value involved if you don't spend money. That's silly.


Any more questions?

kwame: You keep trying to steer my comments in a direction that suits your purpose.


Pot, meet kettle.
 
2014-07-13 06:46:49 PM  

kwame: Do you understand that you're essentially stating for the record that you're a very lazy student?


I'm stating, for the record, I got what I needed out of college.  Of course, I could be lazy, but then llortcM_yllort is right.  Personally, I think you believe in a world where universities believe they are altruistic institutions for the betterment of humanity.  I don't believe that world exists.  Universities are too concerned over what research grants they can get, what football players they can buy, and what companies they can secure internship programs with.
 
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