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(Marketwatch)   The bull market has reached its end   (marketwatch.com) divider line 16
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2014-07-12 07:34:02 AM
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2014-07-12 08:10:15 AM
That's because the house needs to tally up its mountain of money before implementing the next Ponzi scheme.
 
2014-07-12 09:24:42 AM
Sell, Mortimer, Sell!
 
2014-07-12 10:31:34 AM
*reads this headline*
*reads the headline below*

And this is why I'm not into the stock market.

/confused
 
2014-07-12 10:34:26 AM

raerae1980: *reads this headline*
*reads the headline below*

And this is why I'm not into the stock market.

/confused


this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....
the only way to beat the market is with inside information ...
chasing the bottom or the peak is a fools game
 
2014-07-12 10:48:47 AM
I knew it.
 
2014-07-12 10:56:16 AM

namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....


This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!
 
2014-07-12 05:07:47 PM

namatad: raerae1980: *reads this headline*
*reads the headline below*

And this is why I'm not into the stock market.

/confused

this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....
the only way to beat the market is with inside information ...
chasing the bottom or the peak is a fools game


This, this, a thousand times, this.
 
2014-07-12 05:34:07 PM

namatad: raerae1980: *reads this headline*
*reads the headline below*

And this is why I'm not into the stock market.

/confused

this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....
the only way to beat the market is with inside information ...
chasing the bottom or the peak is a fools game


Cept you can sometimes see the obvious.  Housing was too high and leveraged, and had to crash.  The stock market has to go down once they raise interest rates.
 
2014-07-12 06:35:06 PM

Unknown_Poltroon: namatad: raerae1980: *reads this headline*
*reads the headline below*

And this is why I'm not into the stock market.

/confused

this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....
the only way to beat the market is with inside information ...
chasing the bottom or the peak is a fools game

Cept you can sometimes see the obvious.  Housing was too high and leveraged, and had to crash.  The stock market has to go down once they raise interest rates.


Which is not coming soon per the fed. However, I'm reading flash boys right now and it's really souring me on the market in general, I think I'm going to shift more to properties and rent. More inflation proof long term...
 
2014-07-12 07:36:14 PM

AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!



I've been doing that for over 20 years.  But I'm really freaking tempted to pull my money this upcoming year from the market and parking it in safe bonds.  Wait until the next crash and then go all-in in discounted index funds a week after the crash.

If someone had got out of the market in 1997, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then got back in after the dot-com crash, they would have made a killing.

If someone had got out of the market in 2005 or 2006, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then bought index funds again after the crash in 2008, they would now be sitting pretty.

I am really, really tempted to do this in 2015.
 
2014-07-12 08:29:54 PM

Brokenseas: AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!


I've been doing that for over 20 years.  But I'm really freaking tempted to pull my money this upcoming year from the market and parking it in safe bonds.  Wait until the next crash and then go all-in in discounted index funds a week after the crash.

If someone had got out of the market in 1997, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then got back in after the dot-com crash, they would have made a killing.

If someone had got out of the market in 2005 or 2006, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then bought index funds again after the crash in 2008, they would now be sitting pretty.

I am really, really tempted to do this in 2015.


Hard part is how do you know when the crash ends?
 
2014-07-12 08:46:11 PM

Brokenseas: AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!


I've been doing that for over 20 years.  But I'm really freaking tempted to pull my money this upcoming year from the market and parking it in safe bonds.  Wait until the next crash and then go all-in in discounted index funds a week after the crash.

If someone had got out of the market in 1997, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then got back in after the dot-com crash, they would have made a killing.

If someone had got out of the market in 2005 or 2006, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then bought index funds again after the crash in 2008, they would now be sitting pretty.

I am really, really tempted to do this in 2015.


You seem to assume that when the market drops, it will necessarily have to dip below where you sold at. Pretty big assumption.

I've stopped adding to my buy-and-hold stuff, a while back; I'm just swing trading individual stocks for the time being, and doing fine with that. The broader market's gotten too expensive for my tastes, but that doesn't mean I necessarily think we're in a bubble or that some deep crash is imminent. There's just too much cash on the sidelines right now...too many people, all with the same plan to profit on a deep dive.
 
2014-07-12 09:20:22 PM

AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!


Die prematurely of a rare, farked-up disease. Heirs profit!
 
2014-07-13 12:05:44 AM

Brokenseas: AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!


I've been doing that for over 20 years.  But I'm really freaking tempted to pull my money this upcoming year from the market and parking it in safe bonds.  Wait until the next crash and then go all-in in discounted index funds a week after the crash.

If someone had got out of the market in 1997, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then got back in after the dot-com crash, they would have made a killing.

If someone had got out of the market in 2005 or 2006, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then bought index funds again after the crash in 2008, they would now be sitting pretty.

I am really, really tempted to do this in 2015.


Several months ago, some Fark poster announced that he (or she) had moved all his 401k money out of stocks and into cash, in preparation for the upcoming stock market crash. At that point, the DJIA had reached a record high in the mid-14,000's, which he was convinced was unsustainable. Assuming that he stuck with that strategy since then, he's missed out on a ~14% increase.

/Past performance is not necessarily a guarantee of future performance.
//Just sayin'.
 
2014-07-13 02:01:35 PM

Brokenseas: AngryDragon: namatad: this is why you buy index funds and sit on them ....

This could be pretty much the only investment advice you need.  Buy low-fee index funds, invest early and regularly, hold for 40 years.  Profit!


I've been doing that for over 20 years.  But I'm really freaking tempted to pull my money this upcoming year from the market and parking it in safe bonds.  Wait until the next crash and then go all-in in discounted index funds a week after the crash.

If someone had got out of the market in 1997, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then got back in after the dot-com crash, they would have made a killing.

If someone had got out of the market in 2005 or 2006, suffered low returns for a few years in bonds, but then bought index funds again after the crash in 2008, they would now be sitting pretty.

I am really, really tempted to do this in 2015.


Hindsight is 20/20. The future is blind. You do not know when the best time will be to get out. And you do not know when the best time is to get back in. Always remember this chart:

www.ritholtz.com
 
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