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(LA Times)   To the surprise of absolutely no-one, Tea Party economic policies are destroying Kansas   (latimes.com) divider line 266
    More: Obvious, Kansas, tax cuts, Arthur Laffer, Sam Brownback, tea party, kansans, standard deduction, Republican governors  
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2014-07-11 08:35:04 PM  
We need to talk about KevKansas?
 
2014-07-11 08:40:02 PM  
Keep electing them, Kansas

/it's fun to watch
 
2014-07-11 08:49:17 PM  
How long to the point of know return?
 
2014-07-11 09:03:11 PM  
All they are is dust in the wind.
 
2014-07-11 09:05:09 PM  
Well, I'll be. Color me surprised. Gosh.
 
2014-07-11 09:17:05 PM  
So he's giving the economy a Topeka Brownback?

/always thought Brownback sounds like it should be a gross sex act
 
2014-07-11 09:26:49 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: So he's giving the economy a Topeka Brownback?

/always thought Brownback sounds like it should be a gross sex act


Wait... I thought it was
 
2014-07-11 09:39:22 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TuteTibiImperes: So he's giving the economy a Topeka Brownback?

/always thought Brownback sounds like it should be a gross sex act

Wait... I thought it was


well, somebody is certainly getting screwed
 
2014-07-11 10:43:26 PM  
Saul Alinsky can't stand seeing a state throw off the shakles of Communism. So, with help from his faithful assistant President Obama, he is punishing Kansas for their disloyalty.

/what they probably actually believe
 
2014-07-12 12:51:52 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So he's giving the economy a Topeka Brownback?

/always thought Brownback sounds like it should be a gross sex act


It's when one wipes off the santorum using one's partner's back.
 
2014-07-13 07:38:13 AM  
Kansas is the current model for Scott Walker's Wisconsin. Your future, cheeseheads, looks upon it.
 
2014-07-13 07:41:44 AM  
www.abload.de
 
2014-07-13 07:42:17 AM  
They just haven't been conservative enough yet. They need to make the tax cuts even bigger to see the real benefits.
 
2014-07-13 07:46:22 AM  

LarryDan43: Kansas is the current model for Scott Walker's Wisconsin. Your future, cheeseheads, looks upon it.


It's what the Teahadists are trying to do here in Ohio, too.  The last budget cut taxes on the rich, raised sales taxes, and cut payments made to localities that helped keep property taxes down (mine went up 7.5% to compensate).  All the while they cut money for schools and gave state money to those fake "pregnancy counseling" centers that have been popping up in red states that terrify women about abortion.  Yes, my state income tax went down a little bit, but it was wasn't nearly enough to balance out with the increases that hit me (and other poor and middle class people).
 
2014-07-13 07:46:33 AM  
Terrible formatting on that site.  But yeah, thank you, Captain Obvious.
 
2014-07-13 07:55:28 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Keep electing them, Kansas

/it's fun to watch


Yup.  Although it will be infuriating the next time a major tornado wipes out one of their shiathole little towns and the residents are on national TV wondering aloud why the fedrul gub'mint hasn't pulled out all the stops to ship in aid like a farking humanitarian D-Day invasion.

Honestly, if the funding for such aid comes up for a vote in Congress, I hope it gets voted down.
 
2014-07-13 08:02:24 AM  
Thank god my job is with the city and not the state. Big cut backs are on the horizon across the state pretty soon.
 
2014-07-13 08:03:31 AM  

teto85: TuteTibiImperes: So he's giving the economy a Topeka Brownback?

/always thought Brownback sounds like it should be a gross sex act

It's when one wipes off the santorum using one's partner's back.


I thought it would be the doggy-style variant of a Cleveland Steamer.
 
2014-07-13 08:03:34 AM  

The Name: Yup. Although it will be infuriating the next time a major tornado wipes out one of their shiathole little towns and the residents are on national TV wondering aloud why the fedrul gub'mint hasn't pulled out all the stops to ship in aid like a farking humanitarian D-Day invasion.

Honestly, if the funding for such aid comes up for a vote in Congress, I hope it gets voted down.


some of us here aren't teabaggers you know.
 
2014-07-13 08:05:18 AM  
Dig up, stupid.
 
2014-07-13 08:06:33 AM  

log_jammin: The Name: Yup. Although it will be infuriating the next time a major tornado wipes out one of their shiathole little towns and the residents are on national TV wondering aloud why the fedrul gub'mint hasn't pulled out all the stops to ship in aid like a farking humanitarian D-Day invasion.

Honestly, if the funding for such aid comes up for a vote in Congress, I hope it gets voted down.

some of us here aren't teabaggers you know.


Yeah, I know, and that sucks . . . but the vast majority of residents there obviously need to learn a lesson or two about the importance of funding needed services, and it's obvious that they're only going to learn the hard way.
 
2014-07-13 08:06:58 AM  
I think Kansas is doing us all a favour by trying out this newfangled "trickle down" theory for us. Hey, it might work.

Or not ...
i560.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-13 08:07:02 AM  
Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?
 
2014-07-13 08:10:21 AM  
If only they had more oil and natural gas, like Texas.
 
2014-07-13 08:11:19 AM  

log_jammin: The Name: Yup. Although it will be infuriating the next time a major tornado wipes out one of their shiathole little towns and the residents are on national TV wondering aloud why the fedrul gub'mint hasn't pulled out all the stops to ship in aid like a farking humanitarian D-Day invasion.

Honestly, if the funding for such aid comes up for a vote in Congress, I hope it gets voted down.

some of us here aren't teabaggers you know.


So the the good people of Kansas have any idea what is happening to them and why it is happening?
 
2014-07-13 08:12:04 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


Because it works on the rubes -the people who lack the intelligence to recognize faulty assumptions imbedded in arguments such as "at one point in the Laffer curve, revenue actually increases when taxes are lowered, ergo we must lower taxes to increase revenue."

Not to mention the inconsistency inherent in conservatives wanting to increase revenue to government.  By the logic they're using, lowering taxes isn't exactly "starving the beast."
 
2014-07-13 08:12:34 AM  
Please, continue Kansas.

Wisconsin, feel free to follow suit.
 
2014-07-13 08:13:01 AM  

The Name: Yeah, I know, and that sucks . . . but the vast majority of residents there obviously need to learn a lesson or two about the importance of funding needed services, and it's obvious that they're only going to learn the hard way.


I think people who are dumb enough to still vote GOP are too stupid to learn even the hard way. No matter how much their GOP masters screw them over, they'll just keep on voting GOP. The GOP could reinstate the Droit de Seigneur and the teabaggers would blame the libs and keep on voting for them.

Yeah ...sucks for the remaining people with triple-digit IQs in Kansas.
 
2014-07-13 08:13:05 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


When your goal is to cut taxes for your rich donors and lobbyists you don't need much justification.
 
2014-07-13 08:14:36 AM  
whatnowtoons.com
 
2014-07-13 08:14:48 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


To be fair, Art Laffer is Brownback's "tax consultant", according to TFA. Apparently Laffer thinks that Kansas is on the right side of the curve, or Laffer is a whore and is telling Brownback what he wants to hear. Could be either one really.
 
2014-07-13 08:14:49 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


That's actually a good way to describe Left/Right politics, actually. "Where do you think we are on the Laffer curve?" Sure beats using 18th Century French politics as the metaphor...
 
2014-07-13 08:19:58 AM  
Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-07-13 08:20:16 AM  
Koch's keep getting richer. State keeps getting poorer.

Voters keep electing the same failed ideologues because Jesus.

They knew what they were getting when they punched that ballot.

I say let them burn.
 
2014-07-13 08:21:21 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


Why are you trying to reason with the Tea Party?
 
2014-07-13 08:22:34 AM  
So, can we expect a state wide bailout one day? What will the gop do in DC? Admit they were wrong and beg for forgiveness? Na, they will blame it on gay marriage, abortion, Obama.
 
2014-07-13 08:29:09 AM  
It could be that the reason for the existence of Kansas is to serve as a warning to other states of what not to do.
 
2014-07-13 08:32:07 AM  
He sounds like a presidential contender.
 
2014-07-13 08:34:25 AM  

Dog Welder: LarryDan43: Kansas is the current model for Scott Walker's Wisconsin. Your future, cheeseheads, looks upon it.

It's what the Teahadists are trying to do here in Ohio, too.  The last budget cut taxes on the rich, raised sales taxes, and cut payments made to localities that helped keep property taxes down (mine went up 7.5% to compensate).  All the while they cut money for schools and gave state money to those fake "pregnancy counseling" centers that have been popping up in red states that terrify women about abortion.  Yes, my state income tax went down a little bit, but it was wasn't nearly enough to balance out with the increases that hit me (and other poor and middle class people).


You mean Kasich is doing his best to make his Wall Street buddies happy?

Color me shocked.

/Fled my beloved Ohio when they elected that bastard
//I miss Ted Strickland
 
2014-07-13 08:39:04 AM  
So when Kansas eventually goes bankrupt and no-one wants to save it, does it just kind of get absorbed by one of the other states?  I'm guessing that Nebraska would probably take it, as it's borders compliment the addition ascetically.  Same with Colorado, but not quite as nice.  Oklahoma wouldn't take it because you'd still have that panhandle "thing" poking out the side a bit.  Would just look weird.

Maybe the Dakotas could take it?  Merge North and South Dakota (people have talked about it) to make one big North Dakota, then Kansas is the new South Dakota?
 
2014-07-13 08:39:11 AM  
Guess who gets to foot the bill when the whole thing collapses...
 
2014-07-13 08:40:09 AM  
Brownback's tax consultant, the supply-side guru Art Laffer

People pay Laffer for advice? Really?
 
2014-07-13 08:41:29 AM  
So long as we can still get shipments of steak from the rubble...
 
2014-07-13 08:42:56 AM  
Okay, seriously: If you eliminate taxes on small businesses (of certain kinds, okay), even if you DO get growth, how does that translate into revenue for the state? 200% of $0 is still $0. Trying to make it on sales tax alone?
 
2014-07-13 08:44:27 AM  

dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?


As usual, Republicans are evil, stupid, or both. Take your pick.
 
2014-07-13 08:46:39 AM  

RevCarter: Guess who gets to foot the bill when the whole thing collapses...


As I said above, I really hope Congressional Democrats and libertarian Republicans can team up to keep that from happening.
 
2014-07-13 08:46:49 AM  
Well there's a big surprise!!!

That's an incredible.  I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise.

What is Kansas going to do?  They have a big problem here.
 
2014-07-13 08:49:00 AM  
Hopefully this will result in less family owned farms and larger mega corporate industrial farms that can then hire back all the workers at a reduced rate. Pure agricultural bliss.

/more share cropping means more sharing. It's right it the name
 
2014-07-13 08:49:51 AM  

Emposter: dartben: Why does every Republican assume we're always on the right side of the Laffer curve? Why do they forget the left side?

As usual, Republicans are evil, stupid, or both. Take your pick.


"Stupid, voting for evil"
 
2014-07-13 08:51:00 AM  
The only things the Tea Party are destroying are government-run institutions.  Liberals always conflate "government" with society as a whole.  I think it's time for that old Bastiat quote:

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.

You all act like schools, roads, and police are necessities in society.  The private sector will rise up and provide solutions if they are truley needed.
 
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