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(Think Progress)   The first time an American living in poverty got to testify before a House panel went pretty much as expected   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 188
    More: Obvious, Shelter allowance, Todd Rokita, war on poverty, personal experience  
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2014-07-11 01:57:16 PM  
Conservatives are assholes. What else is new.
 
2014-07-11 02:51:21 PM  
He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.
 
2014-07-11 02:58:33 PM  
Though, somewhat in counter to the post I just made, it is a reasonable question to ask how many people should a full-time minimum wage support. They are a family of 5 with 1.5 full time jobs, if we say that full-time employment should guarantee support for three people (the employee, their spouse and one dependent, or the employee and two dependents), then their situation would still require some government assistance.
 
2014-07-11 03:03:38 PM  
A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."
 
2014-07-11 03:08:14 PM  

unlikely: A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."


jesus was a extreterrestrial
 
2014-07-11 03:33:46 PM  
"I work just as hard as anybody in this room," Gaines-Turner replied. "I'm very independent."

I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.
 
2014-07-11 03:36:08 PM  
And it's hard to claim that the impoverished are dependent on government programs when those who receive benefits are far more frugal than those who don't, spending more of their budgets on the necessities and less on things like eating out or entertainment.

Incidentally, if the people struggling with poverty had a tiny bit more, they'd spend nearly all of it in the local community, which is basically the only thing that DOES create jobs.
 
2014-07-11 03:37:06 PM  

DamnYankees: Conservatives are assholes. What else is new.


Yeah, but that was pretty blatantly horrible.
 
2014-07-11 03:42:04 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: unlikely: A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."

jesus was a extreterrestrial


His followers are certainly living on another planet anyways....
 
2014-07-11 03:50:15 PM  
"You're independent, but you're here testifying that you have to have these programs, you need these programs," Rokita responded

I bet he asks all the defense contractors this question.
 
2014-07-11 03:51:22 PM  
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If we can't kill it, we don't want to spend money on it.
 
2014-07-11 03:56:46 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: unlikely: A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."

jesus was a extreterrestrial


Jesus had two fathers. He turned out to be a pretty decent fellow as I recall.
 
2014-07-11 03:57:56 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "You're independent, but you're here testifying that you have to have these programs, you need these programs," Rokita responded

I bet he asks all the defense contractors this question.


Technically speaking, aren't people who get paychecks from an employer dependent on the employer in such a way that they have to have their job and need it to provide for themselves and their families?
 
2014-07-11 03:59:00 PM  

nmrsnr: He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.


Working for a living wage is communism. I'm not sure how, but yadda, yadda, TOP. MEN.
 
2014-07-11 04:01:05 PM  

MFAWG: nmrsnr: He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.

Working for a living wage is communism. I'm not sure how, but yadda, yadda, TOP. MEN.


If the market wanted people to have income and wealth to spend and therefore grow the market, the market would provide them with such wealth and income so stop being communist.  THE MARKET SAYS SO.
 
2014-07-11 04:02:27 PM  
They should have gotten a poor Caucasian to testify, to increase the odds that Republicans think of her as a person.
 
2014-07-11 04:04:56 PM  

nmrsnr: He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.


But if employers have to pay more to employees, then they would just have to raise prices, negating the higher wages! Because that's how businesses make pricing decisions, by using a 1:1 scale based on what they pay in wages.

/I have had close friends make this argument to me
 
2014-07-11 04:06:10 PM  

Serious Black: Marcus Aurelius: "You're independent, but you're here testifying that you have to have these programs, you need these programs," Rokita responded

I bet he asks all the defense contractors this question.

Technically speaking, aren't people who get paychecks from an employer dependent on the employer in such a way that they have to have their job and need it to provide for themselves and their families?


Well of course.  We're all interdependent on each other in countless ways.  My taxes pay for your roads and yours pay for my police.  "Independence" is a myth intended to manipulate people who consider their Medicare check to be a god given right while someone else's employment insurance check is lazy grifting.

This lady and her husband both work (for immorally low wages) and still need the state's help to survive.  Only a Republican would consider that parasitic, as Mr. Rokita was clearly trying to imply.
 
2014-07-11 04:07:35 PM  
Premise:  Anyone in America can become wealthy.
Conclusion:  If you are poor, it is your fault.
 
2014-07-11 04:07:53 PM  

Serious Black: Technically speaking, aren't people who get paychecks from an employer dependent on the employer in such a way that they have to have their job and need it to provide for themselves and their families?


By jove you're right. We should return to the way it was in the old days when your employer could beat you, decide whether you could marry, and you coudn't vote because of your dependence.

/Shouldn't give Republicans ideas.
 
2014-07-11 04:07:54 PM  

sweetmelissa31: They should have gotten a poor Caucasian to testify, to increase the odds that Republicans think of her as a person.


If that's the goal, then they'll need to find a straight white Christian male who's courageous enough to admit that his butler's son once filled out an application for a student loan.
 
2014-07-11 04:08:16 PM  

unlikely: A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."


I like this story. I'm going to steal it and use it in a conversation where it has something to do with what we're talking about.
 
2014-07-11 04:08:31 PM  
Not the first time a white man has told a black woman to work harder.
 
2014-07-11 04:08:42 PM  

jayhawk88: nmrsnr: He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.

But if employers have to pay more to employees, then they would just have to raise prices, negating the higher wages! Because that's how businesses make pricing decisions, by using a 1:1 scale based on what they pay in wages.

/I have had close friends make this argument to me


I think the response I want to try the next time somebody uses this argument is something along the lines of "So if [insert business here] cut their wages to zero, they would be able to give away [insert business product here] for free?"
 
2014-07-11 04:08:44 PM  

Serious Black: aren't people who get paychecks from an employer dependent on the employer


Yes.  This is intentional.
 
2014-07-11 04:08:47 PM  

sweetmelissa31: They should have gotten a poor Caucasian to testify, to increase the odds that Republicans think of her as a person.


That's hilarious because it's the first thing I thought of when I saw her picture.  Not only is she a lazy poor person but she's Black and has weird hair!  She stands not chance.
 
2014-07-11 04:10:26 PM  

Pincy: sweetmelissa31: They should have gotten a poor Caucasian to testify, to increase the odds that Republicans think of her as a person.

That's hilarious because it's the first thing I thought of when I saw her picture.  Not only is she a lazy poor person but she's Black and has weird hair!  She stands not chance.


Named "Tianna."
 
Bf+
2014-07-11 04:10:47 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2014-07-11 04:11:49 PM  
At least no one asked her why she doesn't just borrow money from her folks or sell some stock or buy more money.
 
2014-07-11 04:12:04 PM  

what_now: "I work just as hard as anybody in this room," Gaines-Turner replied. "I'm very independent."

I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.


Oh yeah? How many fundraising calls can SHE make in a morning?
 
2014-07-11 04:12:31 PM  
I am not surprised Ryan kept the phrase welfare queen out of it. I mean, I would have respected him more for standing pat with his convictions if he did. I guess cowardice goes along with a lack of empathy.
 
2014-07-11 04:13:28 PM  

Weaver95: Dusk-You-n-Me: unlikely: A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out, "I am a scorpion. It is my nature."

jesus was a extreterrestrial

His followers are certainly living on another planet anyways....


Is this a Kolob joke?
 
2014-07-11 04:14:25 PM  

eiger: Serious Black: Technically speaking, aren't people who get paychecks from an employer dependent on the employer in such a way that they have to have their job and need it to provide for themselves and their families?

By jove you're right. We should return to the way it was in the old days when your employer could beat you, decide whether you could marry, and you coudn't vote because of your dependence.

/Shouldn't give Republicans ideas.


Oh, I'm sure there are a few Republicans who have already had those ideas cross their mind. Probably not many because it would take a complete sociopath to think those actions were acceptable, but a small non-zero number.
 
2014-07-11 04:15:29 PM  

Dr Dreidel: At least no one asked her why she doesn't just borrow money from her folks or sell some stock or buy more money.


img.fark.net

She could borrow it from her parents there.
 
2014-07-11 04:15:37 PM  

what_now: I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.


www.mediabistro.com

Stop right there, girlfren'. Just look at her. It's obvious she doesn't even lift.
 
2014-07-11 04:16:49 PM  

theorellior: what_now: I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.

[www.mediabistro.com image 320x489]

Stop right there, girlfren'. Just look at her. It's obvious she doesn't even lift.


I keep thinking that I should start going to the gym.

Then someone posts this picture again.
 
2014-07-11 04:17:46 PM  

sweetmelissa31: They should have gotten a poor Caucasian to testify, to increase the odds that Republicans think of her as a person.


Ha! "Think of HER as a person" that's not how republicans work. White male land owners are people, and Clarence Thomas (but only because Alito says so).
 
2014-07-11 04:20:26 PM  
"The most insidious thing about trickle-down isn't the belief that the rich getting richer is good for the economy, it's that the poor getting richer is bad for the economy."
 
2014-07-11 04:20:40 PM  
I'm still giggling.

New report finds that millions of Americans are dependent on employer handouts to survive!  They lack even the means to obtain food and shelter without work-based "entitlements."

Sounds like an Onion bit.
 
2014-07-11 04:21:17 PM  

phoenix352: White male land owners are people, and Clarence Thomas


Clarence Thomas is a white male landowner.
 
2014-07-11 04:21:21 PM  

sendtodave: theorellior: what_now: I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.
[www.mediabistro.com image 320x489]
Stop right there, girlfren'. Just look at her. It's obvious she doesn't even lift.
I keep thinking that I should start going to the gym.
Then someone posts this picture again.


Push-ups and crunches are free, and running only costs you a pair of shoes. Gyms are for people who are trying to impress other people - in one way or another.
 
2014-07-11 04:21:22 PM  

what_now: "I work just as hard as anybody in this room," Gaines-Turner replied. "I'm very independent."

I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.


But everyone in that room has servants that have worked harder than her, so checkmate libtards.

Suss it out.
 
2014-07-11 04:22:16 PM  

clkeagle: Push-ups and crunches are free, and running only costs you a pair of shoes. Gyms are for people who are trying to impress other people - in one way or another.


Or, you know, people who don't have Olympic size pools in their living rooms.
 
2014-07-11 04:23:57 PM  

what_now: clkeagle: Push-ups and crunches are free, and running only costs you a pair of shoes. Gyms are for people who are trying to impress other people - in one way or another.

Or, you know, people who don't have Olympic size pools in their living rooms.


Have you tried to find other employment that would allow you to afford an Olympic size swimming pool in your living room, or is that by choice?
 
2014-07-11 04:24:14 PM  
I was expecting "Do you have a refrigerator, flat screen television, and or a cell phone?"

/feels cheated
 
2014-07-11 04:25:37 PM  

sendtodave: Dr Dreidel: At least no one asked her why she doesn't just borrow money from her folks or sell some stock or buy more money.

[img.fark.net image 568x374]

She could borrow it from her parents there.


That image makes me want to throw things.
 
2014-07-11 04:26:23 PM  
Republicans seeking ways to fix blame rather than fix problems? Shocked, I'm shocked.

nmrsnr: He's right, if they increased the programs by 500%, those people would still be dependent on those programs. You know what would break the cycle of dependency? Making it so that full-time pay is above the poverty line.


THIS. Allowing a less than living minimum wage is basically just supporting corporate profits with tax dollars.

/Money is like manure.
//You got to spread it around to do any good.
///If it piles up it just stinks.
 
2014-07-11 04:27:29 PM  

clkeagle: sendtodave: theorellior: what_now: I bet she works a hell of a lot harder than anyone in that room has EVER worked.
[www.mediabistro.com image 320x489]
Stop right there, girlfren'. Just look at her. It's obvious she doesn't even lift.
I keep thinking that I should start going to the gym.
Then someone posts this picture again.

Push-ups and crunches are free, and running only costs you a pair of shoes. Gyms are for people who are trying to impress other people - in one way or another.


Open up another bag of Doritos, turn on the TV and kick back in your bean bag chair in your mom's basement.  It will be OK, I promise you.
 
2014-07-11 04:27:43 PM  
The Congressman does not seem to understand the concept of the working poor.  With low wages and few benefits the working poor need government programs to escape poverty.  Maybe if the Congressman supported a higher minimum wage, which I'm sure he does not, and affordable healthcare, which I'm sure he does not, then the working poor would have a better chance to escape poverty without the government program.  Someone should explain to him how perhaps these government programs help perpetuate and subsidize low wages as they allow employers to pay those wages knwoing that the government will help out.
 
2014-07-11 04:28:34 PM  

runwiz: Maybe if the Congressman supported a higher minimum wage, which I'm sure he does not, and affordable healthcare, which I'm sure he does not, then the working poor would have a better chance to escape poverty without the government program.


Don't be silly, the poor will work harder if we give them less.

(and the rich will work harder if we give them more)
 
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