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2014-07-11 10:14:54 AM  
This is another time I postulated something decades ago and now wish I had been wrong.
 
2014-07-11 10:24:45 AM  
Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out
 
2014-07-11 11:44:10 AM  
What about testicular removal due to a non-cancerous growth? I want to know. You know, for a friend.
 
2014-07-11 11:46:11 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: What about testicular removal due to a non-cancerous growth? I want to know. You know, for a friend.


You have two and only need one.
Say byby.
 
2014-07-11 11:50:57 AM  

snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out


You listenin' to momma and poppa talkin'?
 
2014-07-11 11:52:15 AM  

snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out


I'm not sure what you mean by the obscure, but if you're talking about semen, it still comes out sans sperm. All the stuff that's kept in the prostate still comes out. I'm not sure why this would be.

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...
 
2014-07-11 11:54:25 AM  
I'd rather have prostate cancer than another child.
 
2014-07-11 11:57:59 AM  

LiberalWeenie: snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out

I'm not sure what you mean by the obscure, but if you're talking about semen, it still comes out sans sperm. All the stuff that's kept in the prostate still comes out. I'm not sure why this would be.



Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?

/Snipped
//Still gets the wife angry with misplaced shots.
 
2014-07-11 11:58:36 AM  

LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...


Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.
 
2014-07-11 12:01:40 PM  

SuperDarly: Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?


That was the first item on the FAQ pamphlet they gave me: "The amount of ejaculate will not change in any noticeable degree."  I can honestly say it didn't cross my mind. But i imagine there were some guys out there who thought their O-Face would be accompanied merely by a jet of air and perhaps a whistling noise.
 
2014-07-11 12:02:02 PM  
Dammit! I was planning to get snipped in a few months.
 
2014-07-11 12:11:06 PM  

WinoRhino: SuperDarly: Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?

That was the first item on the FAQ pamphlet they gave me: "The amount of ejaculate will not change in any noticeable degree."  I can honestly say it didn't cross my mind. But i imagine there were some guys out there who thought their O-Face would be accompanied merely by a jet of air and perhaps a whistling noise.


I have to say that this right here is probably the funniest thing I have ever read. Ever. Bravo!
 
2014-07-11 12:12:29 PM  

WinoRhino: SuperDarly: Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?

That was the first item on the FAQ pamphlet they gave me: "The amount of ejaculate will not change in any noticeable degree."  I can honestly say it didn't cross my mind. But i imagine there were some guys out there who thought their O-Face would be accompanied merely by a jet of air and perhaps a whistling noise.


www.mooncostumes.com
 
2014-07-11 12:15:42 PM  
I did it 18 years ago.  So far so good.
 
2014-07-11 12:17:04 PM  

WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.


He speaks true. I didn't go with the strap, but I did change to briefs to keep my jimmies unrustled.
 
2014-07-11 12:22:17 PM  

WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.


Thanks :-)
 
2014-07-11 12:50:34 PM  
i want one but my wife's afraid they are going to break it.
 
2014-07-11 12:50:55 PM  
LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.
 
2014-07-11 01:03:10 PM  

WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.


2. Definitely.

/I'll take my chances with cancer. I fly, ride, work IT and lived 20 years in Mexico City, I'll probably die of one of those before my prostate even gets a chance to grow.
//No larvae, thank you very much
///It's gonna be a year since I got snipped ^_^
 
2014-07-11 01:11:23 PM  

foo monkey: I'd rather have prostate cancer than another child.


how many people actually die from prostate cancer, rather than with it ?
the fact that we are detecting a slow growing cancer early and treating it has been considered marginal at best.

/crossing fingers that I never need to make the decision. brb
 
2014-07-11 01:13:34 PM  

WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.


Yes, resist the urge. After a few days you'll feel great and be tempted. DON'T DO IT!
 
2014-07-11 01:15:11 PM  

the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.


I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat
 
2014-07-11 01:19:32 PM  
I got the snip 16 years ago. Ive started having prostate problems about once a year now.

Dont know if its related...

Would still do it over again if I had the choice.
 
2014-07-11 01:57:28 PM  

namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat


It is messing with your body. Messing with your body is risky and complicated, even for simple things. We are all basically the same, but the details are different for everyone. That's why drugs have possible side effects and experiencing one side effect doesn't even mean you'll experience that side effect again. I've taken Z-Packs a few times and suffered one of the side effects once. You could go to your dentist to get your wisdom teeth removed and never wake up. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
 
2014-07-11 02:07:14 PM  

namatad: foo monkey: I'd rather have prostate cancer than another child.

how many people actually die from prostate cancer, rather than with it ?
the fact that we are detecting a slow growing cancer early and treating it has been considered marginal at best.

/crossing fingers that I never need to make the decision. brb



Looked up the stats, looks like it's on average about 12.5% you'll get prostate cancer sometime in your life, so a 10% increase raises that to around 13.75% (the overall rate includes vasectomies , so it's actually less) - Couldn't find good numbers on fatality, but most people die with prostate cancer but not from it, so a 20% increase is probably a very tiny increase of all the ways you could possibly die.

/snipped in March.
//raising 5 farking crotch-fruits
///Last one was a whoopsie...condoms, birth control and breast feeding
////I'd rather die early than spend money on another hell-spawn
 
2014-07-11 02:11:33 PM  
Stress from spending money on crotch fruit can give you cancer.
 
2014-07-11 02:24:08 PM  
article wants the reader to do the research on why a vasectomy might lead to cancer because unless i just became illiterate in the two times i read it, i didn't see the why or how.  just sounds like bullsh*t scare tactics but they're doing it to men this time instead of women.
 
2014-07-11 02:42:35 PM  

Raspil: article wants the reader to do the research on why a vasectomy might lead to cancer because unless i just became illiterate in the two times i read it, i didn't see the why or how.  just sounds like bullsh*t scare tactics but they're doing it to men this time instead of women.


The why and how is probably too complicated for the journalist and the average person that will read the article.
 
2014-07-11 02:43:00 PM  

namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat


I was concerned about this beforehand, but after a day or two the pain was gone for me.  Even made it to the Homecoming game at my college the same week.
 
2014-07-11 02:59:37 PM  

SuperDarly: LiberalWeenie: snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out

I'm not sure what you mean by the obscure, but if you're talking about semen, it still comes out sans sperm. All the stuff that's kept in the prostate still comes out. I'm not sure why this would be.


Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?

/Snipped
//Still gets the wife angry with misplaced shots.


Well, that hooked south quickly.
Is a line by Canned Heat/John Lee
 
2014-07-11 03:05:10 PM  

namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat


The nurse practitioner I had the consult with informed me of this risk. She said in those cases, they can inject a nerve blocker to treat it. Sometimes they have to do it twice. So something is still wrong, but at least you can't feel it.

After reading that wiki page it does strike me as odd however that when people talk about vasectomy, it's almost like men who don't do it are selfish and pushing the responsibility of birth control on their partners.
 
2014-07-11 03:06:51 PM  
But, in the vein of this thread, the Nuns lied, me boy.
'Tis best to pet the pud often and with extreme prejudice.
Make it a life long habit.

/from an old "doc" of 44 years experience
//performed first vasectomy 1970
 
2014-07-11 03:31:48 PM  

LiberalWeenie: namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat

The nurse practitioner I had the consult with informed me of this risk. She said in those cases, they can inject a nerve blocker to treat it. Sometimes they have to do it twice. So something is still wrong, but at least you can't feel it.

After reading that wiki page it does strike me as odd however that when people talk about vasectomy, it's almost like men who don't do it are selfish and pushing the responsibility of birth control on their partners.


meh, condoms
I went in to get a vasectomy and my doctor (hawt female) talked me out of it.
Blah blah, I dont have kids yet, blah blah, not certain that I might never want to have kids, blah blah, condoms are really easy, reversing a vasectomy is a pain.

So condoms, pills, morning after pills and abortions. Tada.
Plus getting old enough and the ladies are getting old enough that this is less and less of an issue.

/FFS, still not certain that I dont want to spawn.
 
2014-07-11 03:45:35 PM  

WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.


Very much this.
 
2014-07-11 04:15:37 PM  

WinoRhino: SuperDarly: Is this a common misunderstanding? Is that why men don't want to get snipped, because they think they won't be able to give facials anymore?

That was the first item on the FAQ pamphlet they gave me: "The amount of ejaculate will not change in any noticeable degree."  I can honestly say it didn't cross my mind. But i imagine there were some guys out there who thought their O-Face would be accompanied merely by a jet of air and perhaps a whistling noise.


I shouldn't have read that at work ... too damn funny.
 
2014-07-11 04:27:58 PM  

Jard01: WinoRhino: LiberalWeenie: Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

Some advice from someone who just went through it: size down on the jock. We all love to think we need the XL supporter, but you will be much happier with the more snug fit.  Also, resist the urge (of any sort) for at least a week. Maybe 2.

Very much this.


My doc instructed me to fap like a crazed monkey once the pain subsided to clear the pipes. A few days out, I tried, but not for long. It took a while before that became comfortable.
 
2014-07-11 04:41:36 PM  
Yea?
Well not everybody knows where "use it or lose it" originated.
 
2014-07-11 04:42:39 PM  

LiberalWeenie: snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out

I'm not sure what you mean by the obscure, but if you're talking about semen, it still comes out sans sperm. All the stuff that's kept in the prostate still comes out. I'm not sure why this would be.

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...


If they pick up a paper punch, just say "NO!".
 
2014-07-11 04:50:46 PM  
All men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough. Bringing it on earlier is bad news though.

/ snipped
// father and grandfather both got prostate cancer at 50, and both survived it for decades
/// 43, so tick-tock
 
2014-07-11 04:58:42 PM  

waterrockets: All men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough. Bringing it on earlier is bad news though.

/ snipped
// father and grandfather both got prostate cancer at 50, and both survived it for decades
/// 43, so tick-tock


Not really a solid statistical incrimination.
Could easily be just available study subjects getting better surveillance.
 
2014-07-11 06:13:09 PM  
Perhaps, but when I got snipped, the press was pushing auto-immune diseases triggered by vasectomies. That didn't prove to be true.
 
2014-07-11 07:24:30 PM  

LiberalWeenie: namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat

The nurse practitioner I had the consult with informed me of this risk. She said in those cases, they can inject a nerve blocker to treat it. Sometimes they have to do it twice. So something is still wrong, but at least you can't feel it.

After reading that wiki page it does strike me as odd however that when people talk about vasectomy, it's almost like men who don't do it are selfish and pushing the responsibility of birth control on their partners.


Because birth control for women is never painful and never carries risks, amirite?

/husband is getting snipped soon
//I've already gone through the pill, the patch, the gel, and an IUD
///it's his turn now.
 
2014-07-11 07:49:55 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: LiberalWeenie: namatad: the_rev: LiberalWeenie:

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...

tip:
Buy *two* bags of frozen peas. That way you can keep one in the freezer and keep switching them out when they start to thaw too much.

I have heard that sometimes the pain, or some pain, pretty much forever ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome

yup, fark that shiat

The nurse practitioner I had the consult with informed me of this risk. She said in those cases, they can inject a nerve blocker to treat it. Sometimes they have to do it twice. So something is still wrong, but at least you can't feel it.

After reading that wiki page it does strike me as odd however that when people talk about vasectomy, it's almost like men who don't do it are selfish and pushing the responsibility of birth control on their partners.

Because birth control for women is never painful and never carries risks, amirite?

/husband is getting snipped soon
//I've already gone through the pill, the patch, the gel, and an IUD
///it's his turn now.


It sounds like you had some complications. Good for him. My wife hasn't, but I'm getting one anyway.
 
2014-07-12 12:06:51 AM  
Scheduled to get the snip on the 25th, and I'm in the 'younger' cohort.

/This is giving me pause.
 
2014-07-12 06:18:32 AM  

LiberalWeenie: snocone: Obscure?
It's in him and it got to come out

I'm not sure what you mean by the obscure, but if you're talking about semen, it still comes out sans sperm. All the stuff that's kept in the prostate still comes out. I'm not sure why this would be.

Anyway, I've got one scheduled in a few weeks. Still going to get it. Then again, I get my care at the VA...



Pro-tip: they say not to have sex for a full week afterward.
They mean it!

/ Ask me how I know
// No, don't
/// Best body mod I ever did!
 
2014-07-12 06:24:21 AM  

namatad: foo monkey: I'd rather have prostate cancer than another child.

how many people actually die from prostate cancer, rather than with it ?
the fact that we are detecting a slow growing cancer early and treating it has been considered marginal at best.

/crossing fingers that I never need to make the decision. brb


I suspect if you could see the unskewed numbers, the treatment for prostate cancer probably kills more than the cancer.
 
2014-07-12 06:28:08 AM  

Raspil: article wants the reader to do the research on why a vasectomy might lead to cancer because unless i just became illiterate in the two times i read it, i didn't see the why or how.  just sounds like bullsh*t scare tactics but they're doing it to men this time instead of women.


I did some research before I got mine (about 20 years ago, when I was 23), and from what I recollect from what I read back then is that for some folks their bodies have some sort of autoimmune response to having to constantly reabsorb the sperm. How or what cancer that leads to I don't recall.

Totally worth it even if it does give me cancer.

/ Chicks dig it.
 
2014-07-12 06:31:11 AM  

natazha: Perhaps, but when I got snipped, the press was pushing auto-immune diseases triggered by vasectomies. That didn't prove to be true.


Oh, that was what I heard back then too, I'll have to do some digging, didn't realize that had been debunked.
 
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